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    New question here. Best peddle friendly knee pads ( RF dig v Fox launch)

    Hope this is the best forum to post this in. What do you guys think are the best pedal friendly knee pads. I have been looking at the Fox Launch Pro knee pads or the RF Dig knee pads. I know a bunch of guys like the 661 Kyle Strait pads, but they also sya they tear up pretty easily.

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    No need to start another thread, just pick up some 661 KS. I know guys riding them for years without incident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterZero
    No need to start another thread, just pick up some 661 KS. I know guys riding them for years without incident.
    this is true.

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    Rtying to see if anyone had any experince with either if these. I have tried just seaching the net mtbr, but most of what I find is marketing tyoe of hype. I am surprised there is not more ridee info around. I am not trying piss anyone off by starting a only slightly different thread.

    Charecterzero, I have been watching CL for the cheap KS you told me about. I figured If I could get them for $20 I wouldn't care if they tear up after a few crashes.
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    Best peddle friendly knee pads ( RF dig v Fox launch)
    Either of those kneepads will sell nicely if the price point is right, they have marketability and are backed with good customer service.

    Wait, is this a sales pitch?
    Are you spamming?
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    What about the Knox Cross Lite pads? has anyone tried those? I was thinking about getting a set.

    http://stores.knoxarmorusa.com/-strs...nee/Detail.bok
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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    Either of those kneepads will sell nicely if the price point is right, they have marketability and are backed with good customer service.

    Wait, is this a sales pitch?
    Are you spamming?
    no not a sales pitch . Actually most of the information I have found online is a sales pitch. Actually some good reviews of the fox pads at whistlermountianbike.com. These guys gave the 661 evo pads a good review too, but a bunch guys on here seem to think they don't an adequate job of protecting your knees in a crash.
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    Hey rekibtm, responding to your PM here.

    I like the EVO pads, I do. They are great at what they are - lightweight protection for me. I don't often fall on them (knock on wood), but when I do, they have worked brilliantly.

    Now, if I had been out 2x because of serious knee injuries, no way in hell I would skimp on protection. I'd rock hard pads all the time. That is the boat you are in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rekibtm
    no not a sales pitch . Actually most of the information I have found online is a sales pitch. Actually some good reviews of the fox pads at whistlermountianbike.com. These guys gave the 661 evo pads a good review too, but a bunch guys on here seem to think they don't an adequate job of protecting your knees in a crash.
    oh, from your OP, it's sounded like you were looking to get into selling these pads.
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    miniwisejosh, those pads seem expensive.

    So does anyone have experience with the raceface or fox kneepads?
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    BTW, I don't think it really matters with the knee pads.

    I have a set of 661 DJ pads, and while I notice them in shuttle van, I never notice it when I am pedaling.

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    I really like Kali soft knee pads.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rekibtm
    miniwisejosh, those pads seem expensive.

    So does anyone have experience with the raceface or fox kneepads?
    I know. I'm still willing to get them if they are the most comforable option available. I plan to use them for just about all my rides including XC, so comfort is a major factor. I'll also be getting some knee/shin pads for DH, and protection will be the main consideration there.

    I like the idea of not having any strap going around my thigh seems good on paper. I'm just not sure how well a design like that will stay in place or even if it's as comfortable as it looks. If I can't find any user feedback, I'll just get Kyle Straits which seem to be pretty popular. Or maybe I'll try POC.

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    Has anyone tried the POC VPD Knee? I saw these things and was really interested in how the impact material works....

    http://www.pocsports.com/products/sh...Bike&id=S92037

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    Quote Originally Posted by 006_007
    Has anyone tried the POC VPD Knee? I saw these things and was really interested in how the impact material works....

    http://www.pocsports.com/products/sh...Bike&id=S92037
    There was a review of the POC in the latest BIKE mag, they said IIRC that POC's impact absorbing material was akin to 661's EVO.

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    When I saw the POC pads my first thought was that the impact absorbing material would be pretty similar to that of 661 Evo.
    I am interested in this topic since I'm not serious about DH I might be looking at pedlal friendly knee only pads, and Race Face and Poc would be two of my considerations.
    BTW I think when it comes to pedalling the pads you buy certainly CAN make a difference. Older Fox Launch Knee Shins would rub raw above my knee. Race Face Rally FR Knee / Shins seem comfy enoug for pedalling but they do get hot in the summer and are probably overkill for XC type riding.
    I've had 661 Knee Pads (I can't think of the model name but the ones that go with the Chicken Wing elbow pads) and I found the stitching in the hole behind the knee would rub plus they always felt like they moved down.

    Are the Fox Launch Pro you posted the latest version? The picture I saw in Dirt mag was a bit too dark to see detail but they looked different, at the time they said they had a cut out behind the knee and I thought maybe they were worth consdiering.

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    Yes the picture is of the newest fox KNEE pad.

    POC pads look interesting. d30 type of material? How much?

    RF also has the ambush pads coming out that are made with d3o. I have heard they are going to be a little bit burlier than the 661 evo pads.

    My RF rally pads I have been using aren't too bad to pedal in. They have rubbed the top of my knee raw a few times after a lot of riding. The south florida heat has got me skipping on wearing them (this is why I am intrested in knee only pad).

    I would be better off if any of the LBSs stocked protecion. I see a good number of guys/girls riding padded up, I am assuming they buy online.
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    I own both the POC Bone Leg guards as well as the POC VPD Knee guards. I bought the Bone version to go with the rest of my armor and try to wear them only when doing FR/DH because they have a tendency to twist slightly after any significant pedaling, nothing major that can't be solved with a quick yank though. I originally bought the VPD knees for my wife but she doesn't do enough heavy riding to wear them so I have adopted them for use on most of my other days. The VPD knees fit rather snugly so make sure you buy the right size, but no twisting or moving. As for the VPD, you will not be dissapointed. This stuff is crazy. It feels somewhat like clay when you push on it and molds to your body after a couple of minutes of wearing, but the second you smack it with anything it goes rock solid. The Bone guards have it lining the plastic guard pieces (even though it's a bit thin in that area) and the piece that sits on top of your knee and thigh is made completely of VPD. My only complaint with the VPD Knees is they didn't wrap very much of the material around the sides. It sits mostly on the front with just a bit around the edges and while I have yet to take a good hit to that area, I'm hoping I have the Bones on when I do. I had the chance to throw on all my buddies Fox launch stuff last year and between what it felt like on and what their complaints were compared to the few issues I've had I would still buy another set of POC's stuff.

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    Did you try on the Launch knee/shin and elbow pads? What were your friends' complaints about it?

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    Those poc joint pads look pretty nice. They are certified for motorcyle protection too. They beat the standards of protection even for the hard plastic knee pads.
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    idk about biking but poc skiing is hands down the best quality protection you can buy.

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    No one has tested the fox launch??
    they ve got a decent look

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    The Fox pad's are nice and for the price you can't beat them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miniwisejosh
    Did you try on the Launch knee/shin and elbow pads? What were your friends' complaints about it?
    I tried on both the arm/elbow and the knee/shin fox launch guards and the POC stuff feels like it forms itself to the wearer better and doesn't feel as overbuilt/bulky as the Fox stuff. The Fox knee/shins were tearing between the knee cup and shin plate on my buddies after only a week of owning them and the elbows slide down too much for him. I think all in all it's what feels right to you. I did notice you said something about not having the thigh strap and both of the POC guards do. I only notice it on the Bone guards when they shift slightly though, the VPD knees you can't feel it.

    Whatever you decide to go with I would suggest trying http://www.hucknroll.com/ for purchasing. They are based out of Utah and have a 30 day no questions asked return policy. When I ordered my Bone guards they shipped me 2 different sizes (not their fault, packaged that way by POC) and I didn't notice until after 1/2 a day of riding. They not only had a new set to me the next day but a return slip for the ones I had already mucked up.

    Good luck

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    These are the new VPD Knees and it looks as though they solved the lacking of material on the side I spoke about earlier. Gonna have to upgrade.

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    Well, I think I'm sold on the POC gear. I've been reading all the reviews I can find, and they are positive with only a few minor exceptions. The thigh strap isn't really a big deal. It just caught my eye that the Knox knee pads didn't have one and that looked like an interesting idea. I'd rather go with a product that has been tried and liked by several riders than an interesting idea that has almost no reviews. I also like the idea of VPD. Something cool to bring up in my materials science class if nothing else.

    I'll be getting the Bone elbow, Bone knee/shin, and Joint knee. Only problem is they seem to be out of stock everywhere I look. www.hucknroll.com doesn't even list them anymore. Anyone know of a vendor that has POC armor in stock at a good price? www.eBikestop.com has the best prices I've found (but no stock or course).

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    Patience friend. They haven't even updated the website yet but I've been able to see a few of the new products from photos at Interbike posted online. Give it a couple of months and you'll see it; I'm sure their focus is skiing right now. That said, as soon as you do see it, jump om it quick cause it goes fast. There's a little sneak peek on their website if you dig a little bit, about their new DH Cortex Flow helmet that has a new technology integrated into it that looks pretty cool. IMO these guys are really doing their homework as far as safety is concerned and the higher price tag is worth it if your serious about protection. The fact that the Swiss make aesthetically pleasing products is a bonus as well.
    Happy hunting!

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    Oh. I didn't realize they were out of stock waiting for the new model year. In that case I may get something inexpensive like Kyle Straits in the meantime. I'd feel really silly if I fall and get another scraped knee while waiting.

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    The newest Bike "The Bible of Bike Tests" has reviews for POC Joint VPD, Race Face Dig, Fox Launch Pro, and 661 Evo. They say the Dig has a minimalist pad and the Fox and POC offer lots of protection. The Evos had solid protection.

    Take it for what its worth.

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    That POC Joint VPD looks interesting but I have a hard time believing it will protect the knee well when falling on rocks. I think the new launch is the way I am going to go unless I hear some good testimonials on how the VPD holds up for crashes in the rocks.

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    I may be wrong about the motorcyle protecion. I think that is for the back/spine armor.

    It sounds and looks like the VPD is different enough from the d30 that is might work for irregular surfaces such as rocks. They talk about the absorption of energy in a crash. Kind of a dampening effect as well as the hardening of the material. It also appears to be a bit thicker of a piece of material than the d30 pads.
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    I think you maybe right in that it looks thicker. I might give them a go but it sounds like they won't be out until mid march per competitive cyclist. I am pretty tempted by the new Fox Launch Pro's though. The POC's just seem like they would be more pedal friendly meaning I would use them more. I also wish I had a dealer close to me so I could try them on rather than taking a crap shoot with sizing based on their charts.

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    I really like my 661 KS. One thing in particular that I like about them is the padding on either side of the knee. Overall they have served me very well.
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    I like my 661 Evo's. Light and easy to pedal with.

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    the new launch is the best pad i have ever owned. I can't even tell they're on anymore, I wear em for dj, dh and even skiing these days. I tried on the tld pads, the 661 and these back to back, there was no comparison in terms of articulation or ease of movement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 300hp
    the new launch is the best pad i have ever owned. I can't even tell they're on anymore, I wear em for dj, dh and even skiing these days. I tried on the tld pads, the 661 and these back to back, there was no comparison in terms of articulation or ease of movement.
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    I'm interested in the longevity, how you think they're holding up particularly with the stitching?
    I had fox launch knee shins ages ago and stitching came loose from one of the straps just by the action of the velcro strap being pulled up (was obviously gripping the stitching at the time or something). Needless to say they were returned without a problem and I exchanged for Race Face Rallys. It was pretty much the first few times of use when I was needing to get the strap adjustment correct so I could use the clips from there on in.

    But that was back in '06, and yes the Race Faces are still going strong even though I've tried to wreck them by widening the holes in the inner material for more ventilation! But when in the market for something else it's a fresh slate and open mind, I'd be willing to give Fox a go again, will just be keeping in mind the past issue.

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    Dirtwhip, since you own the joint knee pad could you do me a favor and let me know how it reacts to an irregular hit. Just find a irregular rock and jump on it with your knee pads on. JK. but if you could simulate it by poking it with something while wearing the pads to see if just that spot hardens. From what I read I belive it would. It also sound like the VPD works a little better than d30. Not that d30 works bad.

    Also could you give me an idea of how thick the VP D pad is on the joint knee pad. It sucks that no shop around me carries any d30 or POC products, hell most LBSs around here don't carry any protection.

    I found out that the new style will be available in mid march with S, M & L sizes (not just S & L).

    Thanks.

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    Good job!

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    I really like Kali soft knee pads.


    http://kaliprotectives.com/products/shop/aazis-2/

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    surely someone has used TLD T Bones?
    lovin mine to the core, saved me numerous times, i had the KS before and they started ripping up on the sides, like 2mths in, could be just me, but my T Bones, are superb!

    likin the POC ones too, but no one sells em here, i'm not too sure about buying clothing blind.
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    just an fyi to those looking for POC joints, i emailed POC USA two weeks ago regarding stock and was told they still have all sizes available in the warehouse and can sell direct. stock is very limited however and like dirtwhip said, a few months away for the 2010 stuff.

    "As far as the new line coming out we will start to get shipments in the next month or two and will start shipping to the stores in the spring" - POC USA.

    also, i bought a set of the joints knees used from an online retailer but had to return them. they sent me a large right knee and a small left knee and that wasn't going to work. the large that fit me felt great walking and riding around the neighborhood. i'm not sure if this was mentioned but the VPD feels better after it's on for a bit. it reacts to body heat and and conforms to the shape it's surrounding. it was subtle but noticeable. the d3o material does not have this property and can only be cut from a flat sheet in different shapes to conform to odd shapes. based on this 'test run' i will be ordering a set as soon as the 2010 product is available.

    Flboy - i did numerous test when i had them and yes they do harden on impact. pushing on it slowly it is like a firm marshmallow, at higher velocities it feels like a hard shell. from what i remember i'd estimate the VPD is ~ 3/8" thick.

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    'size, so you think the POC's will adequatly protect against irregualr shaped rock impacts ? This is the one of the complaints I have heard about d3o pads.

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    duplicate sorry.
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