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    Best Clip In shoes and peddles for AM/XC

    Hi all,

    I'm looking for any suggestions you use for a good shoe/pedal.

    I'd like to get a pair of shoes that are inconspicuous (meaning if i was walking down the street in them you'd never know they were clip in's).

    Any recommendations on a good pair for climbing, XC and some downhill?

    As for pedals, there are so many options out there.. Crank Brothers, Shimano, Xpedo, what works really well for Clim/XC/down

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    Flats and Tevas.

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    I ended up getting a pair of Shimano AM45 Shoes and Shimano M647 pedals.

    $167 for both, seemed like a good deal.

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    Best Clip In shoes and peddles for AM/XC

    My Shimano 540 pedals have been great. Yearly TLC and they hold up to lots of use.

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    I have these for XC/AM. Love them.

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    Re: Best Clip In shoes and peddles for AM/XC

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    Flats and Tevas.
    Hah. This is what I'm rocking. My Tevas may be a little different, but when I have I have to hike they are great.

    Found a couple chunks missing... Should I get a different shoe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by micky View Post
    Flats and Tevas.
    He asks for recommendations on clipless and you say "flats and tevas".... stupid... clearly he wants to ride clipless not on flats... there is a reason that literally every XC racer rides clipped in, stevie smith rides clipped in, and jerome clementz rides clipped in, to name a few. Faster, more control, easier to bunny hop, easier to apply power, etc.

    I personally would HIGHLY recommend a pair of Mavic MTB shoes and shimano pedals. I have been running the same pair of Shimano XT clipless pedals for 7 years now and they perform flawlessly even though they are completely mangled, my brother has the same set and they have lasted just as long for him.

    I have the Mavic Alpine shoes and they're as comfortable as my athletic shoes and extremely good for hike-a-bike. I used to think Shimano shoes were amazing but once I saw the quality of Mavic first-hand I was shocked.


    Also, just saw that you got Shimano AM45's.... what happened to "(I'd like to get a pair of shoes that are inconspicuous (meaning if i was walking down the street in them you'd never know they were clip in's)"?? lol the AM45's are the weirdest looking clip-in's available. I actually have a pair and they're great for downhill enduro riding but I did not enjoy them at all for XC with a lot of climbing, way too heavy and the heel area is not designed for optimal power application.

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    Re: Best Clip In shoes and peddles for AM/XC

    For pedals that work well for climbing and descending, i like shimano xt trail or xtr trail, they have a modest platform for times when you're unclipped. I have the xtr trail on my firebird and they are light, tough, surviving many strikes, and spin forever when you give em the spin test.

    For shoes that look normal, in addition to the teva recommendation check out dzw:

    http://www.dzrshoes.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rager View Post
    He asks for recommendations on clipless and you say "flats and tevas".... stupid... clearly he wants to ride clipless not on flats... there is a reason that literally every XC racer rides clipped in, stevie smith rides clipped in, and jerome clementz rides clipped in, to name a few. Faster, more control, easier to bunny hop, easier to apply power, etc.

    I personally would HIGHLY recommend a pair of Mavic MTB shoes and shimano pedals. I have been running the same pair of Shimano XT clipless pedals for 7 years now and they perform flawlessly even though they are completely mangled, my brother has the same set and they have lasted just as long for him.

    I have the Mavic Alpine shoes and they're as comfortable as my athletic shoes and extremely good for hike-a-bike. I used to think Shimano shoes were amazing but once I saw the quality of Mavic first-hand I was shocked.


    Also, just saw that you got Shimano AM45's.... what happened to "(I'd like to get a pair of shoes that are inconspicuous (meaning if i was walking down the street in them you'd never know they were clip in's)"?? lol the AM45's are the weirdest looking clip-in's available. I actually have a pair and they're great for downhill enduro riding but I did not enjoy them at all for XC with a lot of climbing, way too heavy and the heel area is not designed for optimal power application.
    I had a pair of Mavic Rush's and parts of the tread started falling off after maybe 200 miles of road and 40 miles of mountain riding (I use SPD's on my road bike too). The Sidi's I got to replace them feel a lot better, would also try Shimano shoes though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by h20wakebum View Post
    I ended up getting a pair of Shimano AM45 Shoes and Shimano M647 pedals.

    $167 for both, seemed like a good deal.
    Those are very good pedals and shoes. The shoes are nice in any place where you get dew on the growth the side of the trail, as the covering resists most moisture that would soak normal shoes.

    The pedals are about as good as it gets, the upward-canted mechanism makes clipping in extremely easy, they have the better-mud-clearing design of the newer shimano pedals (compared to the 545s which have the older mechanism), they are durable and you can get replacement cages if you ever break them. Great pedals for a beginner, AM rider, downhiller, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddprocter View Post
    For pedals that work well for climbing and descending, i like shimano xt trail or xtr trail, they have a modest platform for times when you're unclipped. I have the xtr trail on my firebird and they are light, tough, surviving many strikes, and spin forever when you give em the spin test.
    I don't recommend those pedals, they are quite a bit more difficult to get clipped back into, which for a newer rider, is somewhat critical. I had the "trail" pedals for a while, and I'd run them in a DH race to save weight, but that's about it, regular 647s are better to run for DH most of the time and for XC riding the regular 540 type design is easier to get into. The problem with the "trail" pedals is the mechanism doesn't rotate easily, forcing you to get much more specific with where you put your foot, as the pedal doesn't "move" around as easily to allow you to clip in, it ends up taking more force in the downward direction to get these clipped back in. The 545/647 have the upward-canted mechanism that circumvents this. You just kind of put your foot flat on the pedal with a little downward/forward pressure and it engages much easier.

    I think the trail pedals look cooler and people can't resist how they are lighter than the 545/647, so it's a hot seller, but it was kind of like having more of the negatives of both styles without the positives.
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    Used quite a few variations of clipless shoes and pedals.

    Currently using XT Trail pedals with Shimano XC50N shoes, very good combo. For a rigid shoe they are pretty good to walk in and the shoe pedal interface is awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by h20wakebum View Post
    I'd like to get a pair of shoes that are inconspicuous (meaning if i was walking down the street in them you'd never know they were clip in's).
    I've yet to find a pair of SPD compatible shoes that didn't at least make the grinding sound when walking on anything but purely flat, almost-polished surfaces. No matter how inconspicuous they looked, occasionally people who didn't know what was going on would look at my feet strangely, possibly wondering how I could fail to notice the stones caught in my soles (since it can sound like that), or perhaps wondering if I was a closet tap dancer.


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    I like Time ATAC pedals.

    For shoes, I've pretty much just embraced the cycling shoe look. I had some Shimano casual MTB shoes for a while, but on a longer ride, they weren't stiff enough. Also, as others have said, the cleat still grinds on the floor. It didn't when they were new, but the sole wears faster than the cleat if you walk much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndrwSwitch View Post
    I like Time ATAC pedals.

    For shoes, I've pretty much just embraced the cycling shoe look. I had some Shimano casual MTB shoes for a while, but on a longer ride, they weren't stiff enough. Also, as others have said, the cleat still grinds on the floor. It didn't when they were new, but the sole wears faster than the cleat if you walk much.
    This is why I love my Mavic Alpines. They are as stiff as my Shimano M087's, don't click when I walk, and are as comfortable as basketball sneakers while still being ultra stiff. Plus, they look very cool and I wear them in public all the time and never get weird looks. Lastly, they are LIGHT!

    Just weighed shoes on scale....


    All right foot shoes:


    Shimano AM45 (WITHOUT cleat installed) = 628.9g (roughly 670g with cleat)
    Mavic Alpine (WITH cleat installed) = 459.8g
    Shimano M087 (WITHOUT cleat installed) = 413.1g (roughly 443g with cleat)

    Average SPD cleat weights 30 grams with the hardware.

    Comfort:

    Am45 = 7/10
    M087 = 6/10
    Alpine = 9/10

    Walking/Climbing Ability:

    Am45 = 5/10
    M087 = 4/10
    Alpine = 7/10

    Perceived Pedaling Efficiency:

    Am45 = 5/10
    M087 = 8.5/10
    Alpine = 8.5/10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rager View Post
    He asks for recommendations on clipless and you say "flats and tevas".... stupid... clearly he wants to ride clipless not on flats... there is a reason that literally every XC racer rides clipped in, stevie smith rides clipped in, and jerome clementz rides clipped in, to name a few. Faster, more control, easier to bunny hop, easier to apply power, etc.

    I personally would HIGHLY recommend a pair of Mavic MTB shoes and shimano pedals. I have been running the same pair of Shimano XT clipless pedals for 7 years now and they perform flawlessly even though they are completely mangled, my brother has the same set and they have lasted just as long for him.

    I have the Mavic Alpine shoes and they're as comfortable as my athletic shoes and extremely good for hike-a-bike. I used to think Shimano shoes were amazing but once I saw the quality of Mavic first-hand I was shocked.


    Also, just saw that you got Shimano AM45's.... what happened to "(I'd like to get a pair of shoes that are inconspicuous (meaning if i was walking down the street in them you'd never know they were clip in's)"?? lol the AM45's are the weirdest looking clip-in's available. I actually have a pair and they're great for downhill enduro riding but I did not enjoy them at all for XC with a lot of climbing, way too heavy and the heel area is not designed for optimal power application.
    I thought the AM45 looked like a "skate shoe". My buddy actually has a pair and says he doesn't use them, so I'll return the ones to Jenson and then buy his for $45.

    The Ones your recommend look really nice.

    I didn't realize the Am45 is not good for XC/climbing. Is it that the foot doesn't feel comfortable on the platform, or they're just hot n heavy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rager View Post
    This is why I love my Mavic Alpines. They are as stiff as my Shimano M087's, don't click when I walk, and are as comfortable as basketball sneakers while still being ultra stiff. Plus, they look very cool and I wear them in public all the time and never get weird looks. Lastly, they are LIGHT!

    Just weighed shoes on scale....


    All right foot shoes:


    Shimano AM45 (WITHOUT cleat installed) = 628.9g (roughly 670g with cleat)
    Mavic Alpine (WITH cleat installed) = 459.8g
    Shimano M087 (WITHOUT cleat installed) = 413.1g (roughly 443g with cleat)

    Average SPD cleat weights 30 grams with the hardware.

    Comfort:

    Am45 = 7/10
    M087 = 6/10
    Alpine = 9/10

    Walking/Climbing Ability:

    Am45 = 5/10
    M087 = 4/10
    Alpine = 7/10

    Perceived Pedaling Efficiency:

    Am45 = 5/10
    M087 = 8.5/10
    Alpine = 8.5/10
    Good to know, I'll pick up a pair of mavic's

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    Quote Originally Posted by h20wakebum View Post
    Good to know, I'll pick up a pair of mavic's
    I'm very confident you will really, really like them. As for sizing, I wear 10.5 nikes, 10.5 adidas, 10.5 carhartts, and Mavic's US Size 10.5 or European 44 2/3 and they fit my feet perfectly. Also I really like with the Alpine's how I can tie my laces relatively loose then just really fasten down the velcro, results in no pinching and a very comfortable ride.

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    Five Ten has some SPD shoes.. I'm gonna be trying out the Raven's. Bluw Sky Cycling has them on clearance for $60.. and for pedals a 530/40/50 shimano pedal is about the most durable thing out there and the price is great. spending more only get's you lighter pedals.. and not by much..

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    I had Shimano AM45's and they were rediculously heavy and made my feet go numb after long climbs. I scored a pair of the Teva Pivots and they are better than the Shimanos in every way. Light, comfortable, and relatively stiff. A little pricey but after riding them for 3 months, I wouldn't hesitate to buy another pair. Used with Mallets, not the best pedal but I haven't had any problems in a year so far. Best shoes I've ever rode in.

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    Alpine XLs and Shimano SLX

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rager View Post
    I'm very confident you will really, really like them. As for sizing, I wear 10.5 nikes, 10.5 adidas, 10.5 carhartts, and Mavic's US Size 10.5 or European 44 2/3 and they fit my feet perfectly. Also I really like with the Alpine's how I can tie my laces relatively loose then just really fasten down the velcro, results in no pinching and a very comfortable ride.
    What do you think of the Serfas SCANDIUM, looks legit. I can get a pair for $74, they list at $190... should i get those?

    https://www.serfas.com/products/view...mens-mtb-shoes

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    Quote Originally Posted by h20wakebum View Post
    What do you think of the Serfas SCANDIUM, looks legit. I can get a pair for $74, they list at $190... should i get those?

    https://www.serfas.com/products/view...mens-mtb-shoes
    If you can really get them for $74 that seems too good to pass up IMO.

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    Specialized Rise shoes - stiff pedaling sole/platform with vibram outer for walking/grip. BOA and velcro for a perfect fit. Best shoes I've ever owned and previous were Spesh MTB Race for 8 yrs -

    TIME ATAC XS pedals - bombproof, positive in/out no matter the conditions. I have hit more rocks and pedal strikes with em - and like timex - just keep ticking. I've blown up multiple shimanos from the same riding - so once I tried em - i havent had to replace em or do anything with em

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    Not that I'm an expert, but I like the pair of Pearl Izumi X-Alp Seek V shoes and Shimano M785 XT pedals that I got on sale at REI and Amazon respectively for less than $160. I have been using them with a '92 Specialized Rockhopper but will transfer them to my new mtn bike (Superfly FS 9) when it arrives this week. I may go for some better shoes in spring.

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    I use Specialized Defrosters all year round for XC/trail riding, purely for the good ankle support and for a winter shoe they are pretty light.. Although they do look like cycling shoes so no strutting down the shops in them. I use XTR trail pedals.

    I do like Spesh's shoes, I even use Speicalized Pro MTB shoes on the road bike as I prefer normal cleats.

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    I have a pair of Bontrager RL shoes, and crank brothers pedals.

    Not real satisfied with the Bontragers. They're looking pretty beat up after 6 months of use. Also, the stupid buckle snaps off every time I mis-step in a rock garden; or even on the occasional "spirited" ejection! I've started using the cheaper metal buckles, and carrying a spare in my pack. That's right, the expensive ones are made of plastic and break easier!

    Pretty happy with the crank bros. No complaints. I guess they don't spin real freely. Should they? I don't think I notice when riding...

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    It's tough to strike that balance between feeling the cleat, and thus making your foot sore...and having too stiff a sole and walking around like a penguin, grinding. Any thoughts on the best shoe I've listed here? I have a long and narrow foot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jmallory View Post
    I had Shimano AM45's and they were rediculously heavy and made my feet go numb after long climbs. I scored a pair of the Teva Pivots and they are better than the Shimanos in every way. Light, comfortable, and relatively stiff. A little pricey but after riding them for 3 months, I wouldn't hesitate to buy another pair. Used with Mallets, not the best pedal but I haven't had any problems in a year so far. Best shoes I've ever rode in.
    I've had the same problems with the am45's. My feet go numb even though I have the shoes laced loosely.
    I got a pair of the Mavic Crossmax shoes and really like them.
    footwear mountainbike Crossmax | Mavic

    I had to relieve the outer edge of the inner foot bed as it was a little high on both shoes but it was nothing a couple of minutes with a Dremel couldn't fix.

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    where did you get the Crossmax?? here in Europe they seem to have disappear as they were scheduled to be in the shops in September but now until December they won't go out...
    Quote Originally Posted by ktmben View Post
    I've had the same problems with the am45's. My feet go numb even though I have the shoes laced loosely.
    I got a pair of the Mavic Crossmax shoes and really like them.
    footwear mountainbike Crossmax | Mavic

    I had to relieve the outer edge of the inner foot bed as it was a little high on both shoes but it was nothing a couple of minutes with a Dremel couldn't fix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ban View Post
    where did you get the Crossmax?? here in Europe they seem to have disappear as they were scheduled to be in the shops in September but now until December they won't go out...
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    cheers....lucky you....I think here in Europe we won't see them until December.... . BTW, do you think those shoes will work fine with CB Mallets??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ban View Post
    cheers....lucky you....I think here in Europe we won't see them until December.... . BTW, do you think those shoes will work fine with CB Mallets??
    Those are the pedals that I use and they work very well together.

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    I ended up getting both a pair of AM45's (I just love the way they look like REGULAR shoes).

    I also got a pair of Serfas scandium's

    https://www.serfas.com/products/view...mens-mtb-shoes

    I'm happy so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ktmben View Post
    Those are the pedals that I use and they work very well together.

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    I have some brown specialized shoe I boght over 10 years ago, still use them everyday, I was tossing around the idea of new shoes then tossed that idea out the window. Still great shoes and super comfy. Look a little beaten up but until they rip in half they are staying on my feet. Pedals are XT on one bike and XTR on the other.
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    im pretty new to the clipless thing but im lucky enough to find a combo thats pretty hard to beat, XTRs and Mavic Rush.
    set it loose enough and panic uncleating is a breeze and it the shoes are very comfortable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hapeepotter View Post
    im pretty new to the clipless thing but im lucky enough to find a combo thats pretty hard to beat, XTRs and Mavic Rush.
    set it loose enough and panic uncleating is a breeze and it the shoes are very comfortable!
    ive been on clipless for 10 years now and once you're used to it you don't even notice the difference between Deore, XT, and XTR pedals. Its just weight. I happen to have a pair of Deore, XTR and XT clipless pedals and they are literally exactly the same just the XTR weigh like 10 grams less than XT which weigh like 25 grams less than deore..... its actually kinda a scam in my opinion but the whole bike industry is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rager View Post
    ive been on clipless for 10 years now and once you're used to it you don't even notice the difference between Deore, XT, and XTR pedals. Its just weight. I happen to have a pair of Deore, XTR and XT clipless pedals and they are literally exactly the same just the XTR weigh like 10 grams less than XT which weigh like 25 grams less than deore..... its actually kinda a scam in my opinion but the whole bike industry is.
    Yep. A local shop manager was running 540s telling me about how she was going to switch to XT to save weight...lol, err, yes, they are slightly lighter, but the new-style shimano clipless pedals are all within about 50g of each other and the weight savings is not there with the higher end ones. If you want nice pedals there is NOTHING wrong with getting XTR, it's just that you're not doing it for weight and they function exactly the same as 520s. Now if you switch to eggbeater 3tis or whatever, then you're saving a big chunk of weight with pedals, but that's totally different.
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