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    Because you don't see enough AM vids


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    Looked kinda fun but I found all the excessive speed and unnecessary little flicking to be annoying. They were working way too hard to get style points.

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    Excessive speed? I'm having a tough time swallowing that one, some people just like going faster, any time I'm on single track pointed downhill to flat I'm probably going as fast as I possibly can. If you like pedaling along thats fine, but I donno if I'd call it excessive speed, fast is fun for alot of people!

    Likewise, jumping, popping off little lips, and generally being playful on a trail is a big thumbs up in my book, I'm not out there as a job, I'm out there to have fun and to play around!

    Either way, to each their own!

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    I would love to ride there! Thanks for the video.
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    Cool vid.

    Quote Originally Posted by William42
    Excessive speed? I'm having a tough time swallowing that one, some people just like going faster, any time I'm on single track pointed downhill to flat I'm probably going as fast as I possibly can. If you like pedaling along thats fine, but I donno if I'd call it excessive speed, fast is fun for alot of people!

    Likewise, jumping, popping off little lips, and generally being playful on a trail is a big thumbs up in my book, I'm not out there as a job, I'm out there to have fun and to play around!

    Either way, to each their own!
    For a hack on a bike, Anything close to 15mph is excessive speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razorfish
    Looked kinda fun but I found all the excessive speed and unnecessary little flicking to be annoying. They were working way too hard to get style points.

    really dude? what those guys are doing in that vid is THE REASON i sold my DH bike and got a short travel. To spend more time actually riding, and not shuttling etc. Most of the trails around don't warrant at 10 inch bike.
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    Don't get all bent, kiddies. If you like it then great. I like it too. Just seemed fake and contrived for the video. That's all.

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    Great vid. I'd love to ride there! Dig the soundtrack, too. Thanks for sharing.
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    Looked like they were trying way to hard.
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    3:02 Hobbit Hole!!!!

    That surely is a mystical land...!
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    I'd hit it.
    [IMBA_POLICE]Thumbs down on riding around the puddles.[/IMBA_POLICE]
    It reminds me of our trails, except swap out coniferous for deciduous, reduce moisture levels by 80% and include a 7 km gravel road climb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razorfish
    Don't get all bent, kiddies. If you like it then great. I like it too. Just seemed fake and contrived for the video. That's all.
    ...What video isn't fake and contrived? I think that's kind of the idea. Apparently you haven't watched any of The Collective films...
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    Cool Video

    Thanks for the stoke. Making me wanna go on a road trip. The snow situation here has me down, either too much (no biking) or not enough (no pow), depending on what you want to do.

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    I watched that video yesterday. Loved it! Looks like a sweet ride to me.

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    Sweet Vid. Good camera work too - trails really resemble SWPA a lot.
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    I liked the vid and the riding - thats how I ride. There will always be h8trs and some that feel a certain way about things, but thats what you must expect posting on the web. Keep up the shredding
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    Looks like a lot of fun, hope you guys enjoyed making that video as I am sure there are a lot of us that enjoyed watching it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razorfish
    Don't get all bent, kiddies. If you like it then great. I like it too. Just seemed fake and contrived for the video. That's all.
    All that flicking, popping, and scrubbing is what separates an AM ride from a trail ride. Sometimes you gotta do that stuff to go fast, most of it isn't throwing style even if it looks like it. Face it, going fast is just stylish!

    Damn good video too.
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    Looked like a fun trail but I kept waiting for the part where they needed the armor...
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    watched it three days ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mk3Rider
    Looks like a lot of fun, hope you guys enjoyed making that video as I am sure there are a lot of us that enjoyed watching it!
    I didn't make it, just spotted it and thought the AM forum might enjoy it

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    Quote Originally Posted by William42
    Likewise, jumping, popping off little lips, and generally being playful on a trail is a big thumbs up in my book, I'm not out there as a job, I'm out there to have fun and to play around!
    NO, NO, NO!!!

    Fun on a bike? We can't let this one go. Ban the video. now.

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    You better just go ahead and drop that seatpost down to the reflector... the trail gets pretty rough down there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutchman83
    All that flicking, popping, and scrubbing is what separates an AM ride from a trail ride. Sometimes you gotta do that stuff to go fast, most of it isn't throwing style even if it looks like it. Face it, going fast is just stylish!

    Damn good video too.
    I even saw one of them look at the camera, wink and give a thumbs up. I saw that in CHiPs once too.

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    Enduroism? HAH. I laugh at that. I've done Enduro's 30x longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by William42
    It looks like fun riding, but why would anyone call that AM? I could only load 2 min, 30 sec of the vid, but unless something drastically different happens in the rest of the vid, that's my definition of XC, or I am much more hard core than I thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsavage
    3:02 Hobbit Hole!!!!

    That surely is a mystical land...!
    yessss I was observing that myself

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    who likes those ERGON BD1's those guys were rockin?!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsavage
    3:02 Hobbit Hole!!!!

    That surely is a mystical land of ...!

    . . ."U-tubia!!!"

    a magical land where no ones chain sucks in six inches of winter glupe and trails always head down . . .

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    Haha apparently AM doesn't include pedaling. Ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glynis27
    I would love to ride there! Thanks for the video.
    I second the motion...Great video, makes me want to get out and blast through these trails. Good music and sweet camera shots...although it would had definitely rode straight though the center of the muddy patch 2:15min into the video. Props to the riders control of the bike in taking the turns on those slippery leaves.

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    To all you people talking about how its not your "ideal AM ride" and how its not gnar enough and blahblahblah.


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    Quote Originally Posted by William42
    To all you people talking about how its not your "ideal AM ride" and how its not gnar enough and blahblahblah.

    I know, that is a definitive AM ride IMO! Just pedaling is boring as ****e to watch, why include it?
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    But what was the all mountain part? Just a nice xc trail is all I saw...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikinfoolferlife
    But what was the all mountain part? Just a nice xc trail is all I saw...
    Dude, you're hardcoreness is blinding.

    But come on, when was the last time you say a XC rider with their seat slammed? That vid was dope, even if the trail was flatter than most we ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutchman83
    Dude, you're hardcoreness is blinding.

    But come on, when was the last time you say a XC rider with their seat slammed? That vid was dope, even if the trail was flatter than most we ride.
    I'm far from hardcore. I just don't get what's all mountain about that trail or the video. I guess yesterday's xc is now today's all mountain...just with different music, clothes and nicer bikes...
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    Damn, that got me pumped to ride....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikinfoolferlife
    I'm far from hardcore. I just don't get what's all mountain about that trail or the video. I guess yesterday's xc is now today's all mountain...just with different music, clothes and nicer bikes...
    I've never seen XC riders scrub a jump or pop a lip like that. Sorry calling bs on your skepticism.
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    Dudes, relax a bit, its not a pissing match for how gnar the AM trails you ride are, and how much harder you have to work for your trails. Its some skilled riders shredding a beautiful trail. You could ride it on an XC bike sure, but not half as fast. Sit back, relax, and enjoy it - maybe even go out and ride your bike because it pumps you up to ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clutchman83
    I've never seen XC riders scrub a jump or pop a lip like that. Sorry calling bs on your skepticism.
    Um, where I come from nearly everyone "pops off lips" and "scrubs jumps" but hardly anyone calls it "AM" riding??? We mostly call it "riding our bikes in the bush". The doing is "we are riding our bikes in the bush" and done is "we rode our bikes in the bush' and so forth....


    Ps, I totally loved the vid as it got me out and riding despite a nagging injury.
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    Nice vid. I feel the urge to ride trying to pry me away from work.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bikinfoolferlife
    But what was the all mountain part? Just a nice xc trail is all I saw...
    The trail itself doen't decide what you ride on it. Most "Freeride" trails or even bikeparks can be ridden on a flimsy XC-hardtail. It takes a good rider and it will be slow, but it is doable. Does that turn freeriding into XC? Certainly not.

    As for the vid, its the speed and flow that makes it "more then cross-country". Which according to this forum is "AM".

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    All the pure AM guys are just ticket-off they can't ride there. hahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikinfoolferlife
    But what was the all mountain part? Just a nice xc trail is all I saw...
    I agree, it looked like fun riding, and calling it XC is not (for me at least) meant as a criticism. I don't think of XC as slow and easy, just no real stunts. I don't see anything in the vid (at least the first half that I could load) which a beginner/intermediate rider could not handle with ease on an XC bike.

    I do give the riders props for the speed at which they are hitting it, but as far as style, they look like they are wasting a lot of energy and movement on overly exaggerated technique for the sake of the camera.

    Also, I think it is very well shot.

    I think it is a good video.

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    All-Mountain is a marketing category for bikes.

    AM is NOT a type of trail, a style of riding, a difficulty level, a climb, a descent, a video, a tire, a person, a rotor size, a trail length/duration, etc, etc.

    It was a cool trail being ridden by guys on AM bikes. Good video with nice shots and good editing. Fun on bikes is fun on bikes. Why does the mention of "All Mountain" conjure so much drama among members of this forum?
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    I like it. Good camera shots. I wonder how long it took to do all the shooting? With setting up and finding good places to film from it must have taken quite a bit of work.
    I didn't agree with riding through the puddles although they seem to keep the skidding under control.
    They seemed like they were trying too hard, but then again, I doubt they rode non stop from shot to shot. More likely riding hard, stop, rest ride hard, repeat to get the good camera shots.
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    Thanks for the vid it's great! cuality shooting and music! We need more AM/trail/enduro/what ever nonDH nonXC videos!

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    Fun, well shot video.

    I gotta agree with Kapusta on it being a much more XC video. I live in FL, where pretty much everything falls under the "XC" category because we don't even have mountains. Our XC race-specific trails are a hell of a lot harder than that, and you can bet the racers are going full-throttle on them!

    I didn't see any excessive speed or overly "stylish" riding. It just looked like the way you have to handle your bike to ride at that speed effectively. Don't knock it 'till you've tried it.
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    Cool video. Wonder if it's the NE US.

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    That could be interesting.

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    Video is pretty well made. I liked it.


    I love the comment on "excessive speed."


    In fact, it's going to become my new user text.
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