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    Anyone riding the new Time ATAC MX 8?

    I'm a long-time Time Atac Alium rider, and I am looking to move up to a pedal with more platform.

    Anyone have experience with the new Time MX 8 (or other new Time Atac MX)?

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    I have been running the MX6 for about 4 months and really like them. I got them at a warehouse sale for $50. I have been using Time ATAC's for about 15 years now.

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    Do you notice the platform you're clipped in (esp. standing/cornering/landing), or does it only help when you're not clipped in?

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    I do not notice the platform when clipped in. It does however help when you are not clipped in and need a little extra grab on your shoe until you can get clipped in.

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    Iíve been on Timeís for over a decade now. I switched from ATACís to the Z version about 3 years ago. Z basically looks to be the same as what they're now calling DH, a pretty burly atac with aluminum body platform. Love the platform for when Iím clipping back in in a sketchy situation, and it does seem to offer a bit more solid interface with the shoe, which in turn allows me to descend faster with confidence. Bottom line is Iím a big guy with size 15 feet, so the platform model meets my needs better.

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    I've been using Times for 15yrs. Had the mx6 for about a year and beat the hell out of them. They're everything I love about Time pedals. Cage offers noticeably more support when pedaling, standing, and cornering. It does give you a better spot to stand when not clipped in, especially if using a rubber soled shoe and not a hard plastic XC type shoe. Def not as secure as flats, but functional if you're nervous or just can't get in.

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    I have both the ROC ATAC, and MX 6, and have bought and sold the XC 6. I have soft soled 5.10 clip-in shoes (Maltese Falcon), and hard soled bontrager xc soled shoes.

    The questions you ask are more dependant on your shoe than your pedal. I notice the lack of platform on the ROC ATAC when wearing my 5.10s, so I exclusively use the mx-6 with those.

    Regarding the use of the platform, with the 5.10 I can ride ok without being clipped in, but it's not ideal. With the hard-soled xc shoe, the platform isn't felt when clipped in, and is not really useful when not clipped it. Your arch skates all over the place when placed on the pedal not clipped in. It's really only useful when you need to get going again and can't clip-in before getting moving.
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    So with a bontrager rhythm shoe (stiff sole, but grippy tread), are you saying the platform will be useless / effectively-invisible and I might as well save the weight and get something like the XS?

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    I have Bontrager RL shoes. I'm not really familiar with the sole of the Rythm shoe, but if the only differnce is the rubber of the tread, then yes, I would say the platform wouldn't add anything to your experience, and you would probably be better off with a smaller, lower profile, ligther pedal.

    My 5.10s work with the MX platform because the sole flexes enough to touch the platform all around. The RL's don't.
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    Hummm....I think you just saved me some money. Thanks for the intelligent comments.

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    Got the new 2014 MX6 (dirty white ones).
    The platform is nice, definitly effective(I got mavic shoes). It is even effective when clipped in because the back of the pedal is effectively supporting the shoes. A nice thing on flexy AM shoes (like mavic alpine).
    Pretty strong, I bump more than once the platform on rocks without big damages.
    They are ligther than 2013 models (380g).

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    So I'm an experienced XC racer but I have a fun bike that I'd like to use both with flats (non-cleated, rubber soled shoes) and with traditional ATAC cleats. It sounds like the MX series is good for this.

    How about the DH4s? Which Time clipless pedal, MX or DH, is best and most comfortable when riding without cleated shoes?

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    Correct. I've got MX8 for my 5.10 Maltese Falcons and platform thingy it's really just false security. You think it will work as platform but really they don't work at all, or just barely, even with skate type sole. Simply my shoes stay above platform around 3-5mm not even touching them. Only cleat holds my shoe. When you unclip and put your sole, even my 5.10's do not bend enough around metal cage to use any part of the platform and your shoe simply slips to sides in sketchy sections, because your shoe really resides onlu on metal cage which is around 10mm above platform. Useless.

    Overall If I could I would get XC8 instead. They have more advanced mechanism (metal cage) and tension adjuster. New MX models DO NOT have tension adjust like previous X ROC S model. Only XC8 and XC 12 have it.

    To sum it up. Hybrid cliepless platforms IMO, give you just false security feeling where in real life they do nothing for you, or almost nothing. And because platforms are big they are heavier and you will knock them around rocks more. Disadvantages out-weight real life advantages. Maybe if you match it to proper shoes... But for that you would need to bring your shoes to the store, mount cleats and test pedals on the spot, otherwise is just pure guess if you will get anything form the platform at all.

    My advice is. Either stick with platforms or go all way for mere XC style clipless models without any platform. You will be able still to keep your feet while not clipped in and you will have smaller body and lighter pedals (and with Time XC tension adjuster as bonus).

    PS> My MX8 take more of the angle to disengage than I expected and I am using novice cleat set up at 13 degree angle (there is 17 mode as well). I heard there is a way to use metal grinder on the edges or something to make them clip on and off with less effort. These are my first clipless pedals so I am total noob with clipless technology. I fell many times already but I can feel advantages with more power etc. Still too scared to ride techy stuff with them. We will see in few weeks...

    I hope It helped. Either match shoes to pedals in the store or just go either flats or small clipless without cages. At least with Time ATAC's. Still... just my opinion based on Maltese falcons, semi flex'y skate type shoe with flat (not recessed) sole. Maybe if you had more XC type shoes with hole in the middle (recessed cleat) platform would be more useful? Test it if you can.

    Good luck!

    UPDATE

    I moved cleats little more to the back and now part of the sole touches back of the pedal platform, so we can say they do something but shoe only sits on one part of the platform. Front is not touching. So it depends how you mount your cleat as well. Still I keep my previous opinion as valid. Support is minimal and advantages are minimal.

    I ride XC to Enduro so no DH crazy stuff. Platform on MX8's is kinda medium, not like normal flat or DH Mallet. Keep that in mind.
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    Good thoughts. Sorry they aren't working out.
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    Good job!

    Well they work OK. I am not changing them. However I would trade minimal platform support for spring adjust in XC8 model (same price).

    I just thought that platform would give me more support. It gives just...meh... is there allright but I could live without it completely considering that when you are not clipped in platform does almost nothing for you. It's smallish and not really supportive. Time's design sticks our far more form the spindle than Shimano's therefore your shoe sits on two mall pieces of metal really. In Shimano's design of the clip is almost flat, I can see how platform there helps you. Take a look on Time's pictures. Whole pedal is massive 30mm thick profile (cage + spindle + cage again). So it's a lot more of rock hitting for me coming form my 11mm flats. I will get use to it.

    What I like about them is float. It helps a lot with body position and overall balance on the bike. Some people hate it I actually like it. It's new for me and I have fun with it. I choose Time's for they durability reputation mostly. Had enough rebuilding my flats every two months (HT).

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    Bit of a zombie thread but I'll throw my 2cents in... I've been using Times for about 15 years - love em. Recently bought some new shoes and decided to give a MX6 a whirl instead of just buying some new cleats. Anyway - totally surprised me because I had amazing contact while clipped in - didn't expect that. Very positive feel. Unclipped, for me, it's about right in terms of grip - as I don't tend to pedal them that way very long - only until I can find my way clipped back in. It does help.

    They are thick but smaller (not as long) than most platforms so it's not an apples to apples comparison in terms of thickness leading to strikes. 12mm thick at 55mm (half way point of a flat pedal) from axle is different than 27mm at 30mm from axle (not actual numbers so don't beat me up).

    I certainly believe that shoe makes the difference - my shoes are Teva Pivots - haven't tried my Sidi Doms or any other hard soled/shanked shoes yet.

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    An update to my earlier post on this thread (which basically states that Iíve been a satisfied fan of Time pedals for years now). I recently purchased a set of MX8ís for my new build. Been super happy on Strong Zís on my prior build, but figured the lighter weight of the MX8ís would be nice. Well, been riding these really expensive pedals for a week now, and my right foot has slipped out of its pedal 3 times in the last 2 rides, always under pretty critical circumstances. I even switched my cleats to the tighter setting configuration after it happened the first time, and my foot still came unclipped again at a critical time. Not sure if I have a defective pedal, it looks to be OK, but this has me pretty concerned. Iíve never had this happen with any of my previous Time pedals. So far, no injuries, but itís easy to see how dangerous this is when it happens. Iím going back to my Strong Zís for now. Anyone else experiencing this with MX8ís?

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    I have problems clipping out actually and planning to shave my cleats. It seems weirs. Check if spring strengths are the same.

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    I've used (and currently own) ATAC XS, ROC-S, ATAC DH Strong and MX-6...

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    I've ridden the older Time Z's and they were pretty darn good but heavy. The newer MX versions are thick = higher center of gravity and greater propensity for rock strikes = fail in my book. Time has/had the best retention mechanism but they really need to get with the times (no pun intended ) and design some thinner platforms. As much as I hate to say it, because I despise most of their junk... Crank Brothers Mallets are the new standard for platform clipless. If you're having problems staying clicked in, just reverse the cleats to the other shoe - asymmetrical so one way will keep you in with more foot rotation if that makes sense.

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    Thanks for your input. As noted in my post above, I already did exactly what you suggest regarding reversing the cleats....and I still experienced slipping out of the pedal. Guess Iím just special.

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    I'm also having problems with the MX 8's. I bought them last fall and really haven't ridden them that much when you consider I don't ride in the winter and the wet spring we've had in CO. I doubt I've ridden them 20 times and one of the springs on each pedal is loose which causes one side of the pedal to have crappy retention (the other side is better). The same cleat/shoe in an old set of pedals locks in tight. Is there any way compensate for the slop in the spring?

    It is also worth noting how fast the platform has degraded from rock strikes. I expected some of this but not so quickly.

    Until I can figure out a solution, these pedals with go into the parts bin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim-CO View Post
    I'm also having problems with the MX 8's. I bought them last fall and really haven't ridden them that much when you consider I don't ride in the winter and the wet spring we've had in CO. I doubt I've ridden them 20 times and one of the springs on each pedal is loose which causes one side of the pedal to have crappy retention (the other side is better). The same cleat/shoe in an old set of pedals locks in tight. Is there any way compensate for the slop in the spring?

    It is also worth noting how fast the platform has degraded from rock strikes. I expected some of this but not so quickly.

    Until I can figure out a solution, these pedals with go into the parts bin.
    I had also a bend spring after a fall, just insert a small headless nail on the other side, between the spring and the pedal body, it should do the trick. it's a pitty that srpings are not removable.
    My MX6 are pretty much beaten up after more than 1 year of rock strikes but still strong, only minor scratches and dents.

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    Bought the MX8 online after rotating 3 sets of original time ATACS for 15+ years with only one broken spring. These new pedals lasted less than two weeks before I struck a root and stretched a spring out.

    Time USA directed me to the Canadian distributor who informed me no parts are available as these are not rebuildable??
    Can these be rebuilt? I wouldn't recommend these pedals as I don't feel my pedal strike warranted damage compared to what my other pedals went through. That being said I found engagement and disengagement on par with the originals and didn't notice much benefit from the larger platform

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bighairybeast View Post
    Bought the MX8 online after rotating 3 sets of original time ATACS for 15+ years with only one broken spring. These new pedals lasted less than two weeks before I struck a root and stretched a spring out.

    Time USA directed me to the Canadian distributor who informed me no parts are available as these are not rebuildable??
    Can these be rebuilt? I wouldn't recommend these pedals as I don't feel my pedal strike warranted damage compared to what my other pedals went through. That being said I found engagement and disengagement on par with the originals and didn't notice much benefit from the larger platform
    Very similar to me. I've also been using them for ~15 years. This is my third pair. I beat the snot out of my my first two pairs and they are still in use and are in surprisingly good condition. The third pair has both pedals pretty much unusable within the first few months. The durability is definitely not the same level as my old ones. I'm going through the warranty claim now. Time USA in MN says that the springs can be replaced but I need to go through the UK warranty if I want to pursue a better resolution since I purchased them from Chain Reaction. I'm trying to get a refund since even if the springs can be replaced, i view it as a temporary fix unless they can upgrade the spring to a harder material. I'll probably just go back to my old ones since the platform only really provides a limited benefit (like restarting on steep climbs). Might consider the Mallet 3's.

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