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    AM zip ties

    OK, while replacing a few worn cables and such this weekend it dawned on me: should I be coordinating zip tie size with certain bikes?

    It appears I could save almost 2.5g's by using ties rated at 50lbs versus ties rated at 175lbs, albeit with a sacrifice in durability. So say the 50lbs for XC rides and perhaps 150lb ties for AM. (Save the 175-200lb stuff for DH.) Note: these things come in a fairly wide range of durability which seems to be directly correlated with weight.

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    I like to ride my bike....

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    its not so much the strength as it is the color

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    orange is the fastest color
    Speed has never killed anybody. Suddenly becoming stationary... that's what gets you.

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    i heard it was red but that may be more for the xc/ weight weenie crowd.

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    Red's pretty close... just like yellow. Close to orange, but not orange.

    Orange is like the Kenyans of the colors. Just plain faster.
    Speed has never killed anybody. Suddenly becoming stationary... that's what gets you.

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    Doesn't adding a color add extra weight? I use only white.

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    I use twist-ties - twist three times, snip off the excess, and you're ready to rock. Saves almost 2 grams over a zip tie.

    I know a guy who only gives them two twists, but he's a weight weenie.

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    The weight weenie forum is down there.

    I use only zip ties that can hold my weight. White or black - other colors weaken them.

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    Like most people, I have my zip ties sorted into different boxes. One box for wimpy commuter zip ties, one for less wimpy XC zip ties, and one for my awesome AM zip ties.

    I do the same thing for my spare bolts, and tube valve stem caps.

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    I keep a spare set of the orange ones in the pack right next to my spare all mountain socks and ultral light all mountain duck tape.

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    i could buy a hundred black industrial grade ties at home depot for 2 bucks, but instead i use special italian velocitee ties that are 5 bucks. apiece. each is handcrafted from tuscan plastic by guys named enzo and antonio, weigs a scant 0.0001g, and comes in the fastest color known to man: orange.
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    how durable a bike or component is usually has a lot to do with how heavy and ugly it is.

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    Just get the 175-200lb ones and drill them out for lightness. Your LBS will do this for a small fee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penny
    Doesn't adding a color add extra weight? I use only white.
    Actually, white is the combination of all colors and black is the absence of all colors so white is the heaviest of them all!

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    I swear, the number of rookies in this Forum is just mind boggeling.

    One word: Carbon Fiber Zip Ties

    Jensonusa has them onsale currently at $58 for a pack of 5.

    How do you expect to survive the entire (all) mountain with a shady piece of cheap plastic holding your business snug?

    It's like the boxer vs. briefs debate. Sure boxers look good, come in fancy colors and patterns and offer plenty of room, but at the end of the day do you really need your junk dragging on the ground and getting snagged in the bushes?

    I didn't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NWS
    I use twist-ties - twist three times, snip off the excess, and you're ready to rock. Saves almost 2 grams over a zip tie.

    I know a guy who only gives them two twists, but he's a weight weenie.
    Dang!

    I never tough i was a weight weenie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strafer
    Actually, white is the combination of all colors and black is the absence of all colors so white is the heaviest of them all!
    That only works in the light spectrum, ink is the opposite. Clear zip ties are obviously the lightest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul
    i heard it was red but that may be more for the xc/ weight weenie crowd.
    who are you kidding yellow is fastest
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    i hate this thread.

    and gaffer's tape ftw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slcrockymountainrider
    I swear, the number of rookies in this Forum is just mind boggeling.
    The OP is not a rookie... he's a TROLL.

    Very racist of you to confuse the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockhop
    The OP is not a rookie... he's a TROLL.

    Very racist of you to confuse the two.
    And you need to have your sarcasm detector checked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockhop
    The OP is not a rookie... he's a TROLL.
    Oh, no.. we are FLABBERGASTED!


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    Quote Originally Posted by insanitylevel9
    who are you kidding yellow is fastest
    for dh. orange for am and red for xc. dont be caught with the wrong color or you hosed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul
    for dh. orange for am and red for xc. dont be caught with the wrong color or you hosed.
    Quoted for truth.

    Red - increases speed uphill. Yellow - speed downhill. It is obvious what an AM bike should be.

    Blue increases speed and stability in the air, so freeride/DH should be green, and freeride/AM - brown.

    White decreases weight, and silver smoothes out trail vibrations. Black adds strength - think DJ/Urban.

    Science.

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    If we're talking science, then the fastest zip ties money can buy will appear blue to anyone you're riding towards, and red to anyone you're riding away from.

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