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    I've been riding freeride, "All Mountain", and racing cross country for the past 12 years and I am absolutely sick of wearing out my pedals in less than a year, and in most cases less than 6 or 8 months. I ride clipped in on all bikes, for all riding styles, no matter what i'm doing. I moved away from eggbeaters after I flattened my 3rd pair by hitting them on rocks, within 6 months last year and went back to SPDs. Eggbeaters never were tight enoguh anyways. I seem to have the opposite problem as most other people, in that I am yet to find a pedal of any sort that will hold my foot on the pedal as tight as I want it. My last pair, some Xpedo m-force, worked quite well ( at full tension ) for about 2 months, and now they aren't worth 2 shits. Does anyone have any suggestions? should i just duct tape my feet to the pedals? What is the all time highest spring tension found in a clipless pedal? HELP!

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    Have you tried Times? If you can't find a pedal that holds you in, you might have a technique problem.

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    Not to toot my own horn here, but I'm almost positive it is not a "technique problem". And no, Ive only ridden eggbeaters, and multiple types of SPDs on my mountain bikes. Maybe I should try the Times, I just want my next pedal purchase to be worth more than 2 months of riding

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    this is absolutely perfect

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    you think ultralight road pedals are the solution to always breaking pedals?
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    All pedals suck

    14,000 miles in the last five years on same Shimanos. Just sayin'....

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    i was referring to the concept

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIPDIRT View Post
    Not to toot my own horn here, but I'm almost positive it is not a "technique problem". And no, Ive only ridden eggbeaters, and multiple types of SPDs on my mountain bikes. Maybe I should try the Times, I just want my next pedal purchase to be worth more than 2 months of riding
    Maybe you should work on a technique that reduces the frequency of the rock hits. Whacking rocks constantly not only breaks the pedals but it slows you down and increases the chance of being knocked out of pedals.
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    what size drops are you hitting? how fast can you ride 12 miles of tech 4 singletrack? i understand rotational physics, force couples, and a concept of centrifugal force to balance my centroidal axis, im just wearing out pedals quickly because i rip

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    I second the Times. I don't ride them because they hold my feet too much.
    I kinda ride all my SPDs loosey goosey.
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    All pedals suck

    Have you ever tried flats and 5.10s? Just curious. Not trying to start a big argument about which is better, but at least on FR/AM bikes, many don't see significant reasons to be clipped in. This would help with your durability problem, but, it sounds like you're pretty passionate about being glued to your pedals.

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    So is your problem with pedal durability, or spring tension?

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    Have you tried shorter cranks? Less pedal strikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by motochick View Post
    Have you tried shorter cranks? Less pedal strikes.
    perhaps the problem begins with a short crank?
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    Re: All pedals suck

    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    Have you tried Times? If you can't find a pedal that holds you in, you might have a technique problem.
    +1. No joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott In MD View Post
    14,000 miles in the last five years on same Shimanos. Just sayin'....
    I second this. I'm a big strong rider and crush everything drivetrain...... pedals, bottom brackets, hub bearings etc. I don't understand how people ride crank brother pedals. I've never had a pair last me a single ride even the mallets. I've ridden a lot of pedals over the years but keep coming back to shimano. The shimano's are QUALITY and last me a good long time.

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    Try flats. Set yourself free. After 12 years of riding crutches it's just time. All those mousetraps suck...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sergio8691 View Post
    Try flats. Set yourself free. After 12 years of riding crutches it's just time. All those mousetraps suck...
    Sure, if shuttling to top of trails & weekend warrior status is your thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIPDIRT View Post
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    Come on, climbing is easy and boring. You just turn pedals one after another. Using mechanical contraptions to facilitate something that is easy and boring already - meh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huskywolf View Post
    Sure, if shuttling to top of trails & weekend warrior status is your thing.
    Meh, I ride flats on cross country trails. It's whatever floats your boat. I started riding clipless (since I had them on my road bike) and then after about 6mo switched to flats. The only thing I had to learn was how to bunny hop not being clipped in. However, 5.10's and a good platform pedal isn't the same as being clipped in. I have both (5.10 freerider pro's and shimano saint pedals) so I know from experience. It's close, but it's just not. I've found that I do a lot more out of the saddle climbing on flats. (Could be due to bad technique ).

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    Try Time ATACs. I can't comment on the newes ones, but I have a pair of Times that are more than a decade old and I cannot break them, and I have LOTS of pedal strikes.

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    I had the same problem. I looked at my sons bike and thought "Maybe they are onto something?"
    No pedals, cranks, not even a bottom bracket to replace....sick!
    I contacted Giant and they are custom fabbing me a 29er.....I really want to maintain my Strava times!!! KOM for this guy.
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    Maybe this could be your solution? Or try the Times, I here they're sturdy.

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    I've snapped and bent times, so have my friends. If you ride super rocky techy trails like the tristate area times aren't a good choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIPDIRT View Post
    I've been riding freeride, "All Mountain", and racing cross country for the past 12 years and I am absolutely sick of wearing out my pedals in less than a year, and in most cases less than 6 or 8 months. I ride clipped in on all bikes, for all riding styles, no matter what i'm doing. I moved away from eggbeaters after I flattened my 3rd pair by hitting them on rocks, within 6 months last year and went back to SPDs. Eggbeaters never were tight enoguh anyways. I seem to have the opposite problem as most other people, in that I am yet to find a pedal of any sort that will hold my foot on the pedal as tight as I want it. My last pair, some Xpedo m-force, worked quite well ( at full tension ) for about 2 months, and now they aren't worth 2 shits. Does anyone have any suggestions? should i just duct tape my feet to the pedals? What is the all time highest spring tension found in a clipless pedal? HELP!
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    agreed. i guess its finally time to stop buying shitty pedals. (<$150) and , yes i am passionate about being "glued" to my pedals. yes, i cant take my feet off the pedals in mid-air, but there is absolutely no way to go fast enough to have fun on flat pedals...
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    +1. No joke.

    Make some thing better happen.

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    really funny haha
    Quote Originally Posted by ghglenn View Post
    I had the same problem. I looked at my sons bike and thought "Maybe they are onto something?"
    No pedals, cranks, not even a bottom bracket to replace....sick!
    I contacted Giant and they are custom fabbing me a 29er.....I really want to maintain my Strava times!!! KOM for this guy.
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    Maybe this could be your solution? Or try the Times, I here they're sturdy.

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    The problem is between the seat and the handlebar.

    Good luck fixing that problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghglenn View Post
    I had the same problem. I looked at my sons bike and thought "Maybe they are onto something?"
    No pedals, cranks, not even a bottom bracket to replace....sick!
    I contacted Giant and they are custom fabbing me a 29er.....I really want to maintain my Strava times!!! KOM for this guy.
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    Maybe this could be your solution? Or try the Times, I here they're sturdy.
    Now I don't care who you are,
    that's funny

    Make some thing better happen.
    He/she who works the trails does so in their own image.

    Speed just slows me down...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIPDIRT View Post
    hahah lets race
    No thanks. I'm not that insecure
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    Quote Originally Posted by RIPDIRT View Post
    but there is absolutely no way to go fast enough to have fun on flat pedals...
    Here's an interesting article I found on pinkbike: Which Muscles are Really Used During the Pedal Stroke? - Pinkbike Basically it says you use most of your muscles on the downstroke meaning you can pedal fine with flats. Now I know for racers looking for the edge clips will be faster i'm not going to argue that. Saying you can't go fast enough on flats to have fun though.... you can't be serious?

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    i wonder if sam hill was having fun when he was going faster than everyone else on flats.
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    Fwiw, I've been riding flats on everything i own (even a road bike) for the last 15 years. I mostly ride XC though because we aren't building man pants trails yet. I never feel like I am at a disadvantage to anybody except when we are climbing steep pitches - especially when going fast downhill, I'm not at a disadvantage to anyone - LOL

    IMO, clips prevent otherwise skilled riders from developing proper bunnyhop technique, among other skills they could be mastering by not clipping into the bike.

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    Shimano M530 pedals, simple, cheap, durable, 2.5 years old. The lighter a components is the less durable it is, in my experience. It also seems bushings last a bit longer than bearings in the case of pedals.

    Seriously get some M530s tho.

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    it sounds like you have two distinct problems, durability and hold. i know time pedals have a crazy tension when you flip the cleats to pro. so much so that i could not get used to it and switched back to acids. as far as durability cant say, never used them that much but they seem pretty strong to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithxCourage View Post
    I second the Times. I don't ride them because they hold my feet too much.
    I kinda ride all my SPDs loosey goosey.
    +1. Even with loose tension my SPD's never release when they aren't supposed to. I started clipless with SPD, and have owned and ridden Time, Look and Crank Bros. After years of riding, went back to SPD because bottom line adjustable tension is your friend. Also, as far as pedal strikes which are common in rocky NE singletrack, no matter how awesome and acrobatic you are, most pedals except SPD, IME, tend to release on impact. Eggbeaters are the worst offenders.





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    I assume your cleats are not worn down?

    All the spring tension in the world won't help much if your cleats are little rounded nubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIPDIRT View Post
    agreed. i guess its finally time to stop buying shitty pedals. (<$150) and , yes i am passionate about being "glued" to my pedals. yes, i cant take my feet off the pedals in mid-air, but there is absolutely no way to go fast enough to have fun on flat pedals...
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    Used SPD's since 1996, switched to eggbeaters because they came with a bike, and they sucked IMHO (too sloppy), switched back to SPDs, screwed up my knee during a few impromptu showers causing my pedals to clog, switched to Time, will never ride another type of clipless.

    That being said, 2 years on flats, and my clipless have been collecting dust, or on road bikes. Get a pair of flats, learn how to pedal properly and minimize pedal strikes, then consider trying clipless again. It sounds like your pedaling resembles rock kicking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Huskywolf View Post
    Sure, if shuttling to top of trails & weekend warrior status is your thing.

    I feel no weaker on climbs than when I was clipped in. I ride in NEPA with our glorious rolling hills, rocks, and roots if that makes a diffrence.

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    If you need lots of spring tension to keep your feet clipped to your pedals, it is a technique problem. Keep your feet from flopping around, and you won't go springing out of your pedals.
    As far as durability, Shimano's last a long time, as long as they are not newer xtr's.

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    Not all pedals suck if i could afford to run Suntour XCII's on all my bikes i would, there old school but i can't find a better pedal that has more grip and control than them. there light and spins so nice and if you can find the grease guard pedals you'll have them for the rest of your life.
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    Another fan of Time ATAC pedals

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    Duct tape your feet to your pedals it should work with clip-less and flats, it will give that glued on feeling. Your feet also wont come off when you get a pedal strike.

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