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    Quote Originally Posted by bluevagrant View Post
    Are you running Primo Tenderizer pedals on that thing!


    Does anybody know how this frame is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Someformofhuman View Post
    Some sick bikes here! WOW. It makes me want to ditch my trail and go to AM.
    Makes me want to ditch my other hobbies to spend more time and money on this one

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    my old Grandis (IT)

    Hi,

    I own from the 1999 a Columbus alloy MTB frame done by Grandis with Shimano LX components.

    In this moment I live in London and I am trying to convert in for a road use.

    I'll post a pic as soon as I will can

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    New upgrade: Joplin 4


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    I think it's kinda cool that we are into such a small niche of bikes that people don't even know what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluevagrant View Post
    I think it's kinda cool that we are into such a small niche of bikes that people don't even know what it is.
    I know youīre not talking about my 140mm / 68.5°HA hardtail, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackgriffen_1 View Post
    Yep the Spoon comparison is most apt, and the one I see online quite a lot. Hmm, you say Specialized; do you have experience with the Toupe 143? If I snagged a Knife, it would do double duty as an AM and road saddle. The Toupe has good support if it fits you perfectly, but the padding leaves something to be desired. My hope is that the Knife could be just the ticket.
    I prefer the Phenom to the Toupe, it fits me better. I have one on my road bike and had one on my full bouncer for the last year until I moved it on.

    The knife has taken some abuse so far and the rails are still intact. Apparently the stitching snags lycra, but if you're running baggies this will never be a problem!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluevagrant View Post
    I think it's kinda cool that we are into such a small niche of bikes that people don't even know what it is.
    Word!

    For all the people posting XC/light trail bikes, if you don't know what an all mountain hardtail is then you probably shouldn't be posting your bike (cuz it probably isn't an all mountain hardtail). We are not trying to exclude you from the whole forum, just this thread, since all we want to see when we come to this thread is all mountain hardtails not XC/wally world bikes you've had since you were 10. If your bike has rim brakes it definitely isn't all mountain, just saying...

    Rant over, proceed with proper all mountain hardtail photos and discussion...
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    I agree with the threadīs name and I donīt like when someone posts an XC bike here, The comment was done after I posted mine, which is a GT avalanche. Most guys have no idea that 2011īs avalanches have Trail/AM geo i.e. frame built for 140mm w/68.5 HA and 73.5 SA. Itīs the same geo as in the GT Force, only on a hardtail. Just sayinī

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    Quote Originally Posted by juancho142 View Post
    I agree with the threadīs name and I donīt like when someone posts an XC bike here, The comment was done after I posted mine, which is a GT avalanche. Most guys have no idea that 2011īs avalanches have Trail/AM geo i.e. frame built for 140mm w/68.5 HA and 73.5 SA. Itīs the same geo as in the GT Force, only on a hardtail. Just sayinī
    There's alot more to "AM" geometry than just those two figures (and fwiw, a 68.5 degree headangle is about as steep as you can sensibly go with a 140mm fork).

    Interesting that you write "Trail/AM geo" as if they're the same thing - they're not... XC fades into trail which in turn fades into AM.

    I'd put the Avalanche (and force, for that matter) firmly in the trail category and yes, I have read the geometry before and read it again before posting this.

    Sure, it's still more appropriate in this thread than many that have been posted here (ie: xc bikes, race and entry-level alike) it's just still not quite what I'd personally call AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manbat View Post
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    Most of us can decide for ourselves which bikes out of ones posted here we would jump off a bunch of rocks with.

    We dont need a couple of blakey from on the buses types pointing out the obvious
    The point (as I see it) is to make clear to OTHERS considering posting what is and isn't worth posting - without the *****ing, chances are you'd see even more irrelevant bikes.

    Sure, most of us can decide for ourselves, but if the thread becomes cluttered with irrelevant bikes then the effort of wading through to find what we want to see (and what the thread title and intention suggest we'd find here) then what's the point?

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    GT Avalanche

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnglishT View Post
    There's alot more to "AM" geometry than just those two figures (and fwiw, a 68.5 degree headangle is about as steep as you can sensibly go with a 140mm fork).

    Interesting that you write "Trail/AM geo" as if they're the same thing - they're not... XC fades into trail which in turn fades into AM.

    I'd put the Avalanche (and force, for that matter) firmly in the trail category and yes, I have read the geometry before and read it again before posting this.

    Sure, it's still more appropriate in this thread than many that have been posted here (ie: xc bikes, race and entry-level alike) it's just still not quite what I'd personally call AM.
    When I wrote Trail/AM I meant it as in that "gradient": XC>>Trail>>AM. Not quite AM but in that particular spot of the gradient, if you know what I mean.
    Besides lots of bikes posted here that do fit this category have a HA around 68°-69°.

    If you see schuch01īs post (last one) thatīs an avalanche expert. That bike comes from factory with a 140mm sektor. Itīs the 2011 avalanches that fit, previous avalanches all have a HA of around 70-71°, and the 2012 has a 70.5° I think.
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    BTW, speaking about the 68.5°HA thatīs the exact same HA for the Transition TransAm, which is widely accepted as a Trail/AM bike.

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    It's not *ALL* about headtube angle.

    What I said was that you're not going to find many bikes that are steeper than that with 140mm forks on (and based on the AtC listed on that geo chart, that's what they're measuring with - that frame will take a 160 though, while I don't think an avalanche would).

    Like I said already - it's more appropriate than many that have been posted here... which is not the same thing as being a perfect fit for the thread.

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    Plenty of xc bikes that don't belong here, but as has been discussed before in this thread, that generation of avalanche ('11) fits in just fine in this thread. But only that generation. they're geometry falls into the trailish end of the AM spectrum. to say it's a burly trail bike vs an AM bike, is really, really just splitting hairs.

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    So is my bigfoot an all mountain

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    Quote Originally Posted by juancho142 View Post
    I agree with the threadīs name and I donīt like when someone posts an XC bike here, The comment was done after I posted mine, which is a GT avalanche. Most guys have no idea that 2011īs avalanches have Trail/AM geo i.e. frame built for 140mm w/68.5 HA and 73.5 SA. Itīs the same geo as in the GT Force, only on a hardtail. Just sayinī
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    Quote Originally Posted by juancho142 View Post
    I know youīre not talking about my 140mm / 68.5°HA hardtail, right?
    No dude. Your GT is very nice.



    Don't get too hung up on it. You can watch a 130# rider Huck a trail bike off crap that a 240# rider would break a proper FRHT on.

    It's obvious that an un-gusseted frame with no stand-over and a 71 deg head angle doesn't belong here...but I think that there are AMTrail bikes and AMFRbikes.

    Bluevagrants bike is a good example of the latter while my Komodo is a good example of the former. Granted, I've dropped my komodo off 4'to flat stuff like an idiot, but it can handle my 200# + well. I sure as crap wouldn't do stuff like that on a Rockhopper, but a Rockhopper is not an XC bike IMO. Just a trail bike. Stumpy HT is xc.

    I consider the Kona Honzo an AMHT, but it's nothing like a Ragley Bagger or something like that.



    As I've said before similarly...
    XC- Stumpy / Whippet
    Trail- Rockhopper / Inbred
    AMTrail- 456 / My Komodo / Sinister Ridge
    AMFRHT- Vagrant / Bagger / my komodo a few yrs ago
    FRHT- Banshee Morphine / Evil Imperial


    Some bikes can cross over because they have enough seat tube to pedal all day, light enough to pedal all day...etc.

    The Bigfoot is a good example. My Komodo frame is another. Kona Five-O.

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    How do you guys like those Avalanche x? I have been thinking about ditching my AC2 and picking one up... I do more trail then anything else, love rolling down the descents fast but, really not need for full suspension right now...

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    Ragley Blue Pig X that I finished today.





    18" Ragley Blue Pig X
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    1x10 drivetrain with Shimano XT Shadow Plus derailleur & MRP 1x guide
    Continental Trail King 2.4 front tire/ WTB Wolverine UST 2.2 back tire
    Nukeproof headset with external lower cup
    Easton Havoc bars & Truvativ AKA 60mm stem
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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainbiker24 View Post
    like this bike but, what is the real difference between, the blue pig, and the blue pig X?

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    The only difference that I'm aware of is the material they use for the tubing. Slightly better quality, so a third of a pound lighter and a slightly better ride quality.

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    So many f*&^ing labels. Do you guys even ride your bikes or just go on the internet to proclaim that your bike is more AM than the other guy's?

    I'm of the opinion that overly slack angles make a bike not so all mountain because AM bikes should be able to climb fairly well too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Bluth View Post
    So many f*&^ing labels. Do you guys even ride your bikes or just go on the internet to proclaim that your bike is more AM than the other guy's?

    I'm of the opinion that overly slack angles make a bike not so all mountain because AM bikes should be able to climb fairly well too.
    How about you just post a bike and keep your opinions off the "POST YOUR BIKE" threads.

    Head angle does not determine how well a bike climbs. Perhaps you should try it before "labeling" us "on the internet". Look into mirror...

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    Head angle does not determine how well a bike climbs. Perhaps you should try it before "labeling" us "on the internet". Look into mirror...

    65 degree HA, single speed 34x16

    Agreed!

    Nice MMbop by the way. I have the Pig and love it. How do you like the Flows? I just got a Pike and need a wheel that will accomodate a 20mm axle. The Flow's are one of the ones I have been looking at.
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    Mr.P, your bike was originally part of my inspiration to build up an mmmBop.

    I just need some wheels to finish it off... Any recommendations?

    Thinking about Mavic EN521 rims to either a Hope Pro 2 SS hub or a Surly Ultra New hub with White Industries freewheel. I dunno...
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    You guys are so darn ALL MOUNTAIN.


    And I can't post my bike here because it's not ALL MOUNTAIN enough for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Bluth View Post
    So many f*&^ing labels. Do you guys even ride your bikes or just go on the internet to proclaim that your bike is more AM than the other guy's?

    I'm of the opinion that overly slack angles make a bike not so all mountain because AM bikes should be able to climb fairly well too.

    And I'm guessing you're of the opinion that steeper head angles are better for descents??

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    Quote Originally Posted by tangaroo View Post
    And I'm guessing you're of the opinion that steeper head angles are better for descents??
    Not at all. But there's a balance between a bike that can do both well without resorting to shite like adjustable travel forks.

    Give me 67.5 on a 26er and call it a day!
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    where do you guys buy these frames? seems like they are all made accross the pond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Bluth View Post

    Give me 67.5 on a 26er and call it a day!

    Yup


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    trek 6000

    i have a trek 6000 stock exept for grips and i want to make it a all mountain any suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mk104 View Post
    i have a trek 6000 stock exept for grips and i want to make it a all mountain any suggestions?
    Short answer... you can't.
    Ride it as-is, develop skills and start saving.

    You'll never make an AM hardtail out of that frame - you'll have to start from scratch or buy a ready-built bike that suits what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnglishT View Post
    Short answer... you can't.
    Ride it as-is, develop skills and start saving.

    You'll never make an AM hardtail out of that frame - you'll have to start from scratch or buy a ready-built bike that suits what you want.
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    Wtf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Bluth View Post
    You guys are so darn ALL MOUNTAIN.


    And I can't post my bike here because it's not ALL MOUNTAIN enough for you.
    Who are you really mad at?

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    The only thing that would make this and AM bike is the 50mm stem yeah?



    Old CroMo Brodie Kinetic with original Manitou SX fork. Can't wait to try out the local dh track with it (it's a short easy dh trail near my town, not a hard long trail 20min drive out.

    Anyhow just thought I'd share as I've just finished building it up today (in the last few years have tried DH with an Orange 222, had an STP as a do it all bike and then tried road riding most recetnly (which sucks lol)). This mtb will be my "do it all bike" so would be AM providing I'm game!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.P View Post
    How about you just post a bike and keep your opinions off the "POST YOUR BIKE" threads.

    Head angle does not determine how well a bike climbs. Perhaps you should try it before "labeling" us "on the internet". Look into mirror...

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    My Custom built On One 456 evo, in it's DH mode for the enduro race I just did at michaux state forest here in PA

    although I did swap the crank out for my DH one...
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    some nice machines here guys!

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    The All Mountain Hardtail Thread. Post up yours.-onone1.jpg

    My ON-ONE 456 Carbon great bike but i have order a new frame COTIC BFE as i will try

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Bluth View Post
    Not at all. But there's a balance between a bike that can do both well without resorting to shite like adjustable travel forks.

    Give me 67.5 on a 26er and call it a day!
    I agree. 67.5 is perfect




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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown-rider View Post
    My Custom built On One 456 evo, in it's DH mode for the enduro race I just did at michaux state forest here in PA

    although I did swap the crank out for my DH one...
    sick build! I've got an Evo that's pretty similar, i.e. Outlaws, Zocchi fork, etc. What's the weight on yours?

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    Kt42, with my 456 evo built up with the azonics, heavier dh crank and the heavier tires it was pushing 34lbs. Now with the lighter wheelset and lighter tire combo it is back around 32lbs. I have a 130mm manitou circus expert fork that'll be going back on it to lighten things up even more, right after I get the lighter spring for it. The manitou fork should get it back around 30lbs. which isn't exactly light, but I know it ain't gonna break!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRed06 View Post
    My first real mountain bike, got a steal on this left over 2010, love it, but the brakes have to go! If all goes well with this, a nice Fully AM will be in the mix for next summer!



    Nice Norco! Looks burly...what stem is that? Brand/size/rise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown-rider View Post
    Kt42, with my 456 evo built up with the azonics, heavier dh crank and the heavier tires it was pushing 34lbs. Now with the lighter wheelset and lighter tire combo it is back around 32lbs. I have a 130mm manitou circus expert fork that'll be going back on it to lighten things up even more, right after I get the lighter spring for it. The manitou fork should get it back around 30lbs. which isn't exactly light, but I know it ain't gonna break!
    Nice! I think mine's going to end up around 33-35lbs once I'm completely finished. It'll be pretty burly except for the xc crank. Lol, and 30lbs is light when it comes to steel hardtails

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    nice bikes

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    Trailside shots from this weekend




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    Warhead78, that is a beautiful bike! I'm very jealous, I really like the gold bars, stem and seatpost clamp

    Could you post the parts list with the total bike weight? Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by warhead78 View Post
    Trailside shots from this weekend



    Quote Originally Posted by unknown-rider View Post
    Warhead78, that is a beautiful bike! I'm very jealous, I really like the gold bars, stem and seatpost clamp

    Could you post the parts list with the total bike weight? Thanks
    nice bike.... I built it

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    It's been over a year since this landed on my front door. The old green cranks are gone for some 175mm not green models. The fork needs a service, really needs a service, so does the bb. Bars and stem got replaced for Thomson and Easton bling. The old grips are gone for some cheap foam hand-gasms, sooner or later there'll be a ti-post in the offing... someday.

    But most importantly, the old reliable King/Hope/Mavic set up is on my Cotic now, this gets E13 trs, King and DT revolutions. They are absurdly light, like somebody stole half my wheelset, brilliant!

    PS, still love this bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown-rider View Post
    Warhead78, that is a beautiful bike! I'm very jealous, I really like the gold bars, stem and seatpost clamp

    Could you post the parts list with the total bike weight? Thanks
    Thanks!

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    Weight: 24lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by manbat View Post
    Nice build mate :thumbup:

    beter watch out though at 24lb theres a couple of arseholes on this thread that will tell you thats to light to be all mountain
    Thanks man, it works for me and that's all that matters

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    wrong button
    Don't call yourself an AM rider just because you suck at XC

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    Quote Originally Posted by warhead78 View Post
    Thanks!

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    E.13 XCX+ single crankset w/ Gamut guide
    Canfield Crampons
    X.9 shifter/derailleur
    XT Brakes
    Atlas Bars/On one stem
    Fizik Saddle on Ritchey WCS Post

    Weight: 24lbs
    ooOOOooo... That's slick!
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    Nice Norco! Looks burly...what stem is that? Brand/size/rise?
    Stem is a: Funn Rippa. I know nothing about it, haha. I just got the bike and have been loving the hell out of it. Nothing quite climbs like a hardtail, and she jumps great.
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    DH is what you do when you have huge hairy balls and love to shred the gnar.

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    Here is my Bespoke Grandis 26' MTB (late 90s), converted to road use.

    Columbus tubes frame, Shimano LX components.


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    Got to love AM hardtails!
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    2012 ta

    Here's my 2012 TransAM. Pewter, size large. Excellent, excellent bike. 33.5 pounds...ouchy.

    Fox 36 talas
    Transition Revo 32 wheels
    Hammerschmidt
    xo stuff
    Avid CR brakes
    Race face cockpit

    And yes, I know that the Hammerschmidt cable needs to be routed...I just removed the Transition sticker fromthe down tube and haven't had the time to zip tie the cable.
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    New upgrades for my GT:

    DT Swiss 445d rims laced to:
    White PILLAR Spokes
    red PILLAR nipples
    Red front Novatec DH41SB 20mm hub
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    31.6mm Joplin 4"





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    badgermtb, nice TransAM!!
    re your Hammerschmidt cable dangle.... i have HS on my Dialled Alpine and i got some stick on cable guides (the type with the clip like the brazed on hose guides) and used 3 on my downtube. Very tidy, very sticky (survived about 12 months of glorious Welsh weather so far!!) and very cheap (i think i paid about Ģ2 for 4). Just an idea for you.....

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    Nice idea...

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBadger View Post
    badgermtb, nice TransAM!!
    re your Hammerschmidt cable dangle.... i have HS on my Dialled Alpine and i got some stick on cable guides (the type with the clip like the brazed on hose guides) and used 3 on my downtube. Very tidy, very sticky (survived about 12 months of glorious Welsh weather so far!!) and very cheap (i think i paid about Ģ2 for 4). Just an idea for you.....
    Thanks for the suggestion. That wouldbe nicer than the 2x zip tie idea that I was running with. I'll check with my LBS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badgermtb View Post
    Here's my 2012 TransAM. Pewter, size large. Excellent, excellent bike. 33.5 pounds...ouchy.

    Fox 36 talas
    Transition Revo 32 wheels
    Hammerschmidt
    xo stuff
    Avid CR brakes
    Race face cockpit

    And yes, I know that the Hammerschmidt cable needs to be routed...I just removed the Transition sticker fromthe down tube and haven't had the time to zip tie the cable.
    So is the Hammerschmidt worth it? I'm running 1X8 right now but sometimes I hit the road, from what I have read it is equivalent from going from a 24t to a 36t in a single shift...How tough is it? Have any parts break yet? If I got one I would probable set the bike up SS and use the Hammerschmidt as a low/high gear basically. I only really use two gears so eliminating the derailleur would be awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mace350 View Post
    So is the Hammerschmidt worth it? I'm running 1X8 right now but sometimes I hit the road, from what I have read it is equivalent from going from a 24t to a 36t in a single shift...How tough is it? Have any parts break yet? If I got one I would probable set the bike up SS and use the Hammerschmidt as a low/high gear basically. I only really use two gears so eliminating the derailleur would be awesome.
    The only problem I see with running the hammershmidt in a 2X1 set up is the high gear has a noticeable drag, and the spread between low and high is quite great. So when you go to climb you'll go from slow cadence to really fast cadence with the low gear. But if none of that bothers you then go ahead and buy one. Personally I would just buy a internally geared hub with however many gears you want, which could be had with 2-11+ gears. The internal geared hub route is much cheaper as well, even if you have to build a whole new wheel, since the hammershmidt crank with shifter and bottom bracket is quite expensive, like 700-800 dollars expensive... just my 2 cents
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    Hammerschmidt

    Quote Originally Posted by Mace350 View Post
    So is the Hammerschmidt worth it? I'm running 1X8 right now but sometimes I hit the road, from what I have read it is equivalent from going from a 24t to a 36t in a single shift...How tough is it? Have any parts break yet? If I got one I would probable set the bike up SS and use the Hammerschmidt as a low/high gear basically. I only really use two gears so eliminating the derailleur would be awesome.
    The Hammerschmidt is pretty cool. It is tougher than nails...no problems at all with any of the parts andIhave been riding it all season.

    There is a bit of an adjustment period when you first start using it. The shifting is opposite ofwhat you are used to. Yes, there is some drag in the overdrive mode. But I usually am not in overdrive unless I am descending...so it has not been a bother to me.

    It is nice to be able to switch gears without having to pedal...it is just an instant switch either way. I do not think that I would ever go back to a front derailleur after using the Hammerschmidt.

    I have been tempted to try the Hammerschmidt on a 2x setup, too...

    Anyhow, I am going back to SS this fall. The Hammerschmidt (and all the bits) will be up on the eBay for sale as I will not have a use for it. If you are potentially interested, shoot me a PM and we can chat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart4711 View Post
    the FR/AM bike, balfa minuteman, 37 lbs
    I can't seem to see the picture you posted, could you post it in a different format? Thanks, I would like to see what your bike looks like...
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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown-rider View Post
    My Custom built On One 456 evo, in it's DH mode for the enduro race I just did at michaux state forest here in PA

    although I did swap the crank out for my DH one...
    Need a parts list from you on this gem..... Looking to upgrade my kona shred

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    Quote Originally Posted by piratewake View Post
    Need a parts list from you on this gem..... Looking to upgrade my kona shred
    Well I'll try and remember all the parts on it....

    Frame- On One 456 Evo 16"
    Fork- Marzocchi 55 R 160mm w/20mm thru axle (2010 or 2011)
    Headset- FSA pig DH pro (with sweet sealed bearings)
    Crank- some unknown origin racing bontrager gxp crank (now it has the Race face ride DH crank back on it)
    Pedals- Azonic 420 pedals
    Chainguide- MPR G2 mini
    Chainring- Blackspire 34 tooth singlespeed
    Cassette- SRAM 970 11-34 tooth
    Chain- SRAM 970 9 speed
    Rear derailleur- Shimano Saint (short cage) 9 speed M-810
    Shifter- Shimano Saint trigger shift M-810
    Brakes- Hayes stroker trails (will soon have the Hayes stroker aces mounted back up)
    Rotors- 203mm Hayes (front) and 160mm avid (rear)
    Handlebar- Azonic world force 30.5" (~780mm) wide
    Grips- Oury lock-ons
    Stem- Black market underboss 25.4mm clamp
    Saddle- Sette evo
    Seatpost- Truvativ Stylo Team
    Wheels- Azonic outlaws ( they have been switched back to the lighter weigh frankenstein wheelset I have the consists of a wide(ish) Bontrager rhythm front wheel with a rear wheel consisting of a Mavic 317 rim and a shitty Shimano hub) I have the other Bontrager wheel waiting to go on as soon as I get it trued up...
    Tires- (front) Intense 2.5" (rear) Maxxis 2.35" (Now the Maxxis is at the front and my 2.2" bontrager semi knobby is on the rear)

    That should be everything....
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    Absolutley INSANE rigs in here. Keep em comming!!
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    My new bike - Shan from Production Privee.
    best regards from Austria
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    Quote Originally Posted by extrembikerp View Post
    My new bike - Shan from Production Privee.
    best regards from Austria
    What a beauty....

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    Those frames are really cool. Standover looks insane! Nice bike.

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    Awesome stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by extrembikerp View Post
    My new bike - Shan from Production Privee.
    best regards from Austria
    love the numbers on that bike. colour isn't my taste. is that an xl? how do you like it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbert2000 View Post
    love the numbers on that bike. colour isn't my taste. is that an xl? how do you like it?
    Yes, it`s a xl-frame. By now I ride it only three times - itīs great to ride it.
    Weight is ca. 13,8kg (frame xl 3kg), not light but itīs ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by extrembikerp View Post
    My new bike - Shan from Production Privee.
    best regards from Austria
    That seat tube looks a little ridiculous. If you are tall enough to need a XL why would you need that much standover?

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    AM Rockhopper

    Here's my All Mountain 2010 Specialized Rockhopper

    120mm, 15mm thru-axle RockShox SID RLT Ti
    750mm wide Easton Havoc Handlebar
    50mm long, 0 degree rise Easton Havoc Stem
    Mavic Crossride wheels
    Specialized Purgatory 2.3 front tire
    Specialized Ground Control 2.3 rear tire
    Shimano SLX M665 crankset, 22-36-Bash
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    That Rockhopper is tryin' real hard...keep goin'!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluevagrant View Post
    That Rockhopper is tryin' real hard...keep goin'!
    +1
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluevagrant View Post
    That Rockhopper is tryin' real hard...keep goin'!
    At some point I plan on adding a dropper post and Shimano SPD M785 pedals to it. Hydraulic disc brakes are probably the next thing I'll be adding though. I've had enough of my BB5s. I'm also looking into replacing the rest of the drivetrain with X9 components.

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    I was gonna say that Rockhopper was damn sexy! Thatīs deffinitely a Trailbike to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by juancho142 View Post
    I was gonna say that Rockhopper was damn sexy! Thatīs deffinitely a Trailbike to me
    Yup ... trailbike. Does look sweet though. Nothing wrong with a trailbike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by extrembikerp View Post
    Yes, it`s a xl-frame. By now I ride it only three times - itīs great to ride it.
    Weight is ca. 13,8kg (frame xl 3kg), not light but itīs ok.
    i really liked the shan until i saw it used a pressfit bb and integral headset. i find both those options kinda limiting. the rest of the geometry numbers look great. enjoy it

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    Looking through this thread is making me miss having a hardtail! All the bikes in here are amazing bikes! Love that On One 456 evo by unknown. Beautiful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmckechnie View Post
    At some point I plan on adding a dropper post and Shimano SPD M785 pedals to it. Hydraulic disc brakes are probably the next thing I'll be adding though. I've had enough of my BB5s. I'm also looking into replacing the rest of the drivetrain with X9 components.
    love it! I recommend Shimano Deore M596 brakes. I got them for my Avalanche fairly cheap and according to bike radar they have more power than most avid brakes:

    How We Test Hydraulic Disc Brakes - BikeRadar

    BTW: Please dude a pic of the drive side of that Rockhopper!

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    Quote Originally Posted by juancho142 View Post
    love it! I recommend Shimano Deore M596 brakes. I got them for my Avalanche fairly cheap and according to bike radar they have more power than most avid brakes:

    How We Test Hydraulic Disc Brakes - BikeRadar

    BTW: Please dude a pic of the drive side of that Rockhopper!
    Brakes won't be for a while. Fork, wheels, tires, and installation labor added up quickly.

    Here are some pics of the drive side and the view from the cockpit
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    Awesome!

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    Wow that rockhopper is a beauty!

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    That is one mean looking rockhopper, I'm not gonna lie...mmckechnie you should look at getting a steel AM frame like an 456 evo or a blue pig, then there would be no worries about pushing the bike to the limit. Just a suggestion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Opinions View Post
    Looking through this thread is making me miss having a hardtail! All the bikes in here are amazing bikes! Love that On One 456 evo by unknown. Beautiful!
    Thanks dude!
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    A little desert fun today...

    Quote Originally Posted by the_owl
    Everytime you ride in mud, god kills a kitten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stiingya View Post
    A little desert fun today...

    holy seatpost batman. you must be close to minimum insertion

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    So 7x7 is all mountain, right?

    I know this one is a bit left of centre, but hey, it's what makes me giddy on the tough trails. It is long, low, and slack with plenty of meat where it matters and no fluff.
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    Well, it was a good try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbert2000 View Post
    holy seatpost batman. you must be close to minimum insertion
    Exactly what first came to my mind too - hope that's below the seatube-toptube junction or some snapping is likely to occur...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Humongous View Post
    I know this one is a bit left of centre, but hey, it's what makes me giddy on the tough trails. It is long, low, and slack with plenty of meat where it matters and no fluff.
    classic old school company. nice rig

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