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    Nice bike! How do you like it? I was debating between this and the surge but ultimately went with the surge for the adjustable dropouts and replaceable derailleur hanger.

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    Here's mine!



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    Quote Originally Posted by phrac View Post
    Nice bike! How do you like it? I was debating between this and the surge but ultimately went with the surge for the adjustable dropouts and replaceable derailleur hanger.
    Thanks! I've only been on a few rides with it, but I like it a lot so far. I think I'll eventually drop the fork from 160mm to 150mm to make it a bit more snappy, and I'm not sure if I'll be able to stick to running a 1x9 set up long-term. But I haven't ridden a hard tail in years, and I'm surprised at how much fun it is. I think the steel frame combined with the fatter tires and tubeless set up take the edge off just the right amount.

    Congrats on your bike! The Surge looks sweet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkley View Post
    New On One Inbred build. The frame is rough, I just built it to test ride after some weld work and before powdercoat. 27.5lbs as she sits. Build thread here: Second chance for an old frame: Custom Inbred build (Photo heavy)


    You did an incredible job on that!! LOVE the color too..what a sweet ride, enjoy it man.
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    2011 Santa Cruz Chameleon
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    Bit of Curtis action from the UK,

    Quite sure i haven't seen any Curtis bikes in this thread, handmade in steel in the UK, they did a job lot for CRC a while back, all off the peg sizing, but all others have a degree of rider input into the geo angles and sizing. The rider input bikes also have unique serial numbers, mostly initials of the rider/owner.

    This one was made for DH ripping and was a prototype model, the finished bike (i never saw that, it had some angle tweeks and the headtube was altered for the fork crown clearance) this bike was mostly seen scaring the crap out of 8" DH bikes as it overtook them
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    Bit more Curtis.

    The white one was Andy Paynes, and i belive that frame is still with Curtis as it was a working test prototype, going by the 08AP serial number that must be from 2008 (when the frame became a frame) although the photo may be 2009 at the UK Bike park.

    Next we have the Yellow Curtis, again made to rider requirements and a variation on Andys frame, this was made for Ash Brown who was/is riding for Curtis and is around 2010. This had a bit more attention to detail being a team riders bike.

    Was going to drop a link in but seems the website is down, however the rumour is they are doing the bespoke bristol bike show (Brit version of NAHMBs) and showing a AM 29er.
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    Are any of you racing your AM Hardtails? Since building my 456 Evo, I find that I'm just not riding my FS bike at all. I just like the hardtail better. The FS is likely faster and "better" overall, but something about the hardtail just suits me. Maybe it's my BMX background. I'm looking at getting rid of the FS altogether. My only reluctance comes from the fact thatim planning on racing some enduros this year.

    Anybody running enduros on a hardtail?

    Oh, and..


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    I mostly do DH on mine, some of us will race anything anywhere.

    Hardtails still mostly tied in with XC racing, but a handfull of riders do the Gravity Enduro races over here on hardtail(xc route with timed DH special stages), the 12-24 hour xc enduros have a high HT turnout, and depending on conditions (amount of mud) then the rigid SS tailers do allright.

    The whole hardtail thing is kind of looked down on over here and licenced racing for BC/UCI points puts you in age groups, so in a DH race you will be riding with the big hit bikes. Some events do a side line (no points because no official class) Hardtail class which can be rowdy at times no age or gender splits just be on a HT and your in HT or you can join your age related class if you wish.

    The ultimate event to go Hardtail in over here is the 6 hour Downhill enduro that's held at Fort William on the WC track, if you can survive that your doing allright. It's of course faster and maybe a bit nicer on a susser, but no where near as much fun. So far highest placed HT in that event is 4th overall, to contend for the HT podium you must be knocking out at least 10 back to back runs in 6 hours, to contend for the HT win do 12 runs.

    Down to rider in the end and what you have to race on, if hardtails all you got, tweek the set up to match the event and go race.

    On-one's are popular over here because they are cheap, well made, take a beating and with a good fork (like yours 309) and sensible part choice can go from xc to dh with a change of wheels and rubber.

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    Ragley Piglet

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    2011 piglet frame
    Sektor RL 2012 - crank Brothers headset
    Zee cranks with XT BB
    Plasma device Superstar
    Superstar tech nano flats pedals
    Avid Elixir R rear 160mm & 5 front 185mm
    Stans Flow wheelset Evolution hubs
    Bontrager rubber
    truativ 50mm stem
    Octane 770mm Chem handlebar
    Shimano 10 sp cassette
    Sram X7 rear
    X5 shifter
    Specialized seatpost
    Team exclusive saddle (dont remember brand)

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    Been a while since I've posted here. I've been riding a Jamis Dakar XLT for the longest time. About a month ago the swing arm snapped for the 2nd time. I finally got fed up with having something so fragile so I bought a used Banshee Scirocco frame and transferred my components over. I'm still waiting for a new derailleur hanger to come in as the current one was bent.

    I've never owned a hardtail frame before, so it'll be a new experience. Anyway, here's a picture as it sits now.

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    Should your balls sit in front of the saddle or on the saddle? Im a bit confused.

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    Wow I really really like that banshee Scirocco

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    nice to see another Ragley
    If I were faster, I would win

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    well,im new to all this and i need to create a new thread to ask my question lol but i have a gt aggressor xc3,stock,no brakes(major issue)

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    Awesome bikes in here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 309 View Post
    Are any of you racing your AM Hardtails? Since building my 456 Evo, I find that I'm just not riding my FS bike at all. I just like the hardtail better. The FS is likely faster and "better" overall, but something about the hardtail just suits me. Maybe it's my BMX background. I'm looking at getting rid of the FS altogether. My only reluctance comes from the fact thatim planning on racing some enduros this year.

    Anybody running enduros on a hardtail?

    Oh, and..

    I have done some racing on mine. I have not been very successfull in terms of elapsed time. I did the Paris Mtn Enduro last year and had no less than 3 flats in the timed sections. I don't want to go tubeless but I am thinking that for enduro type racing this may be necessary. Also, my rig weighs 33lbs with the dropper post and a 32t front ring. Bad combo, I think. Next year I will try a DH tube and a 36t ring for some more oomph.
    I have also done some time trial races (less than a 25 minute lap XC trail) and that has been fine. The bike is too heavy for explosive sprints but I still come in the top 3rd of participants.
    Racing these bikes is not the point. I feel like these AM/FR HT's are skill bikes. All out speed is not easy to come by IMO. The 29er versions of us MAY change that. We'll see...
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    2009 Norco Katmandu
    -Truvativ Blaze Cranks(stock)
    -100mm sr suntour forks(stock)
    -Sram x-4 rear deraileur
    -Sun Ringle Singletrack rims(front and rear)
    -stock norco seat
    -stock norco grips
    -gusset pedals
    -El Norte Titec Stem
    -Avid juicy 3's(front and rear)
    -Michelin Tires(Kendas are in the pic, those are the old tires)
    This frame can always handle what I ride, it works fairly well
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    Great bikes all around. Sub'd

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    Still rummaging around for photos, all spread out over memory sticks and a couple of computers.
    Be some more Atomlab action to come, seem to have lost the clean Superfly photos.... be hiding somewhere.

    Anyway, after starting out racing on a Spesh P2 i moved to steel in 2008 (never looked back steel for me) at the time i sort of bought a Cotic Bfe, but the shipment came in late, and Cy had a whole batch cosmetic QC issue so wouldn't release any frames, i couldn't wait and had a refund. So i owned but never had a Cotic for a brief period but have not been able to revist the Bfe again, the moment has passed, maybe.
    So i found a secondhand Charge Blender frame, and built it up just in time for the first DH enduro on the Fort William world cup track back in 2008 sanko steel DB tubes, really slack angles, mine was a first gen model...going from memory (may be wrong) head angle was around 65.5o and seat angle was around 64.5o later frames had the angles altered +.5o or +1o the steel had slightly slacker angles than the Ti frames the change i think in angles made both framesets the same. Rear tyre clearance was tight, could just squeeze a Maxxis 2.5 or anyother brands 2.35 which was fine when dry and dusty and you didn't whack the rim out of true. When it was wet 2.1 or 2.2 spikes unless you fancied the bike just grinding to a halt with a mud plugged rear end.

    Absolute chore to ride uphill, turned out to be a touch nervous on high speed flatish downhills, really needed a Pike fork up front with U-turn to make it more bearable for AM riding.......but.....point it down a steep techy twisty track, steeper the better and it came alive, get air and it landed like a cat. Didn't enjoy it at Fort William, i would love to to try one down Champery, in the end after a year i moved on to Superfly as the Blender was too much hard work for me and it was sold on.
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    Looks like I'm back in the AM hardtail game.


    Frame: 2013 Transition TransAm medium frame
    Fork: 2011 Marzocchi 55RV 160mm tapered
    Headset: Cane Creek 40 lower, 10 upper.
    Crankset: Raceface Turbine Bash-36-24
    Chainguide: E13drs I think?
    Pedals: Forte Convert
    Brakes: Shimano SLX m675 203mm Icetech rotors
    Wheelset: Stans Flow Rims - SLX centerlock hubs - Red spoke nipples - double butted wheelsmith spokes
    tires: WTB dissent 2.3 TCS (tubeless)
    Stem: Black Market something or other
    Bars: Renthal Fatbar 25mm height, cut to 750mm
    Grips: ODI rogue
    Cassette: Sram pc970 11-34
    Chain: Sram pc991 hollowpin
    Derailleurs and shifters: Sram X7
    Seatpost: Gravity Dropper classic 3 position seatpost
    Saddle: Koobi AU enduro saddle

    Haven't weighed it yet, but it's no lightweight. But since the only other bike I own is a 40lb freeride rig, 33-34lbs feels light enough for sure.

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    After 2 months of collecting parts, it's done finally

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    Quote Originally Posted by tkh89 View Post
    After 2 months of collecting parts, it's done finally
    I love it!!! im about to build on up basically the same.... whats your parts list?

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    There you go...

    Frame: 2013 Santa Cruz Chameleon (Medium)
    Fork: 2012 Fox Van 160mm tapered
    Headset: Chris King InSet
    Stem: Thomson Elite X4 50mm
    Bars: Funn Fat Boy
    Grips: ODI Cross Trainer
    Seatpost: Thomson Elite
    Saddle: Selle Italia C2
    Wheelset: Hope Pro 2 Evo hubs + ZTR Flow rims
    Tires: Maxxis High Roller 2.35
    Pedals: Unknown brand from my brother

    The rest are all 2013 Shimano SLX groupset

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    Frame: 2012 FireEye ShortFuse 380
    Fork: Surly Instigator
    Headset: Aest sealed bearing
    Stem: Hussefelt 40mm
    Bars: Hussefelt 700
    Grips: WTB Weirwolf
    Seatpost: Origin 8
    Saddle: Ritchey Vector
    Wheelset: Sun MTX 33's Laced to Shimano SLX Centerlocks
    Tires: Nevegal up front Velociraptor in the back
    Pedals: Wellgo B-67

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mace350 View Post


    2012 FireEye ShortFuse 380
    That bike looks like much fun waiting to happen; good job, man -
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