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    Quote Originally Posted by chelboed


    Addict? Never heard of it, but I'm droolin'.

    edit: Just went to their site...wow, Will. Nice ride!!!
    +1 holy crap...amazing!
    who put that tree there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by usernamehere
    here's my 05 hardrock, my sh!tbike, my first "real" biek. Built from leftover parts from my pitch-was gunning for all mountain build in a transition trans am kinda way. You guys tell me what you think.

    Frame: 2005 hardrock medium
    fork: 2006 drop off (handles good with 130mm instead of craptastic MZ Comp at 80mm)
    crank: Race face ride xc
    brakes: hayes Sole
    drivetrain: sram attack shifters, botched 8 speed casette(with 34 cog), alivio dr(i know, but it works, lol)
    wheels : dt swiss 445(off of pitch)
    tires: kenda nevegals, with studded front for now for fun in the snow
    The bike comes in at 31lbs-which is not bad since the front tire is wire bead and studded.
    I know a lot of people turn their noses at hardrock but this frame has been good to me-I even took it to whistler first year I got it. Long range plans are to get a on one 456, blue pig or trans am, but in the meantime I'll ride the snot out of it.
    Dude, anyone who turns their noses can suck it. The only thing I would be worried about is the extra stress on the headtube that all the extra travel will put on it.

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    my awesomess coolio great ride

    2008 KHS DJ-200 just a few pics (more on the way) but here are the specs:

    Component Group Shimano Alivio
    Brakeset Shimano M485 disc brakes, Shimano M485 levers
    Shift Levers Shimano Alivio
    Front Derailleur Shimano Alivio
    Rear Derailleur Shimano Deore
    Crankset TruVativ Hussefelt 2.0 w/RockRing, 22/32 teeth
    Pedals Alloy Platform
    Bottom Bracket TruVativ Howitzer
    Cassette Shimano HG-40 8-speed, 11 - 32 teeth
    Chain KMC Z72
    Seatpost Alloy Micro Adjust
    Saddle KHS Dirt Jump
    Handlebar PowerTools 6061 Alloy
    Handlebar Stem Alloy, getting a Hussefelt to replace the POS stock one(it actually had a sticker sying"not for DH comp, jumping, or extreme off-road use, i dunno if its a CYA thing or not, but its going)
    Headset 1 1/8" threadless Cane Creek Aheadset Hammer
    Hubs Formula disc
    Rims Weinmann DM-30, 36-hole
    Tires Front: 26 x 2.35" Kenda Kinetics, Rear: 26 x 2.30" Kenda Kinetics
    Spoke Brand Black, 14ga. (2.0mm)
    Spoke Nipples Alloy

    my best pic is too big though :\ anyway tell me what u think
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    yeah! what he sez!
    I did some calculations-with the new fork the head angle goes down by 1.8 degrees-approx 68.5 degrees-I could see an issue if I put on a 170mm travel fork, but the drop off only adds 40mm- I've got it set up fairly soft, low in the travel. If the head tube snaps off and I eat the stem, I'm suing everybody!(just kidding). Cheers.

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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by ineedanewbike
    2008 KHS DJ-200 no pics as of yet (working on it) but here are the specs:

    Component Group Shimano Alivio
    Brakeset Shimano M485 disc brakes, Shimano M485 levers
    Shift Levers Shimano Alivio
    Front Derailleur Shimano Alivio
    Rear Derailleur Shimano Deore
    Crankset TruVativ Hussefelt 2.0 w/RockRing, 22/32 teeth
    Pedals Alloy Platform
    Bottom Bracket TruVativ Howitzer
    Cassette Shimano HG-40 8-speed, 11 - 32 teeth
    Chain KMC Z72
    Seatpost Alloy Micro Adjust
    Saddle KHS Dirt Jump
    Handlebar PowerTools 6061 Alloy
    Handlebar Stem Alloy, getting a Hussefelt to replace the POS stock one(it actually had a sticker sying"not for DH comp, jumping, or extreme off-road use, i dunno if its a CYA sticker or not, but its going)
    Headset 1 1/8" threadless Cane Creek Aheadset Hammer
    Hubs Formula disc
    Rims Weinmann DM-30, 36-hole
    Tires Front: 26 x 2.35" Kenda Kinetics, Rear: 26 x 2.30" Kenda Kinetics
    Spoke Brand Black, 14ga. (2.0mm)
    Spoke Nipples Alloy

    But i have a ? about the fork: its a Marz DJ3 with 100mm of travel, and the HA is currently at 67.2* i would like something like a 55ATA2 ormaybe a pike, but how much will this slacken the HA? and how much before its too much?One persomn has told me its no big deal, but id like a few more opinions first. thanx
    Go to:http://bikegeo.muha.cc/
    type in your specs and see
    you welcome

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    thanks usernamehere, thats an awesome site. doesnt have any 55ATA stats (thats the "All Mountain" one maybe?) but using a Pike (and i dont know my wheelbase so this could be a bit off) leaves me at 65.55*this looks uber slack as most DH bikes are around 66*, but maybe its not so bad? im not worried abiut the frame as the HT is heavily gussetted and the DT/TT are pretty thick as well, i simply dont want a 10 foot turning radius
    who put that tree there?

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    INEEDABIKE
    Those preset measurments might be a bit off-best way is to measure all forks yourself. OE specs for your bike may be on manufacturer website or bikepedia.Marz 55 might be a bit of overkill for that frame-65 ht is SLACK-u can always run it soft, but ultimately its ur biek, ur call.

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    2008 giant yukon

    replaced parts as it broke, needed to upgrade, or was a good deal for the price. some parts were given by my buddy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SC RockLobster
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    Quote Originally Posted by usernamehere
    here's my 05 hardrock, my sh!tbike, my first "real" biek. Built from leftover parts from my pitch-was gunning for all mountain build in a transition trans am kinda way. You guys tell me what you think.

    Frame: 2005 hardrock medium
    fork: 2006 drop off (handles good with 130mm instead of craptastic MZ Comp at 80mm)
    crank: Race face ride xc
    brakes: hayes Sole
    drivetrain: sram attack shifters, botched 8 speed casette(with 34 cog), alivio dr(i know, but it works, lol)
    wheels : dt swiss 445(off of pitch)
    tires: kenda nevegals, with studded front for now for fun in the snow
    The bike comes in at 31lbs-which is not bad since the front tire is wire bead and studded.
    I know a lot of people turn their noses at hardrock but this frame has been good to me-I even took it to whistler first year I got it. Long range plans are to get a on one 456, blue pig or trans am, but in the meantime I'll ride the snot out of it.
    Beautiful! I planned to have one of these actually... in the summer of '05... but I did not have the money at that time. Now I have something similar. Did you check the Marin Palisades '10 bike? It would be a cheaper way to have something for AM at a good price (BTW I'm not trying to sell MY bike as my ride is a Norco Scrambler)


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    2010 Gary Fisher Wahoo Disc, picked it up on wednesday and love it so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helmetless
    Beautiful! I planned to have one of these actually... in the summer of '05... but I did not have the money at that time. Now I have something similar. Did you check the Marin Palisades '10 bike? It would be a cheaper way to have something for AM at a good price (BTW I'm not trying to sell MY bike as my ride is a Norco Scrambler)


    Thanx
    I took a peek at Marin website-although a nice bike, the Palisades is also based around a 100mm fork with steep HT angle-it wouldnt be an upgrade as much as a lateral frame swap-Thanks for the idea though. Scrambler is a fine machine, but I'll let you know when I pick up my new frame so u can get the frame of ur dreams lol-even if its a 5 year old dream. cheers

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    now we are talking!
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    Quote Originally Posted by usernamehere
    Thanx
    I took a peek at Marin website-although a nice bike, the Palisades is also based around a 100mm fork with steep HT angle-it wouldnt be an upgrade as much as a lateral frame swap-Thanks for the idea though. Scrambler is a fine machine, but I'll let you know when I pick up my new frame so u can get the frame of ur dreams lol-even if its a 5 year old dream. cheers
    it is a cool bike anyway... on the other hand, it would be difficult to pick up your bike as I live in the southernmost country in the world and also the import pricing surely be bigger than the price of the frame itself looooooool

    Greetings from Chile

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    helmetless -do a side shot of the bike-looks real good

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    Quote Originally Posted by usernamehere
    helmetless -do a side shot of the bike-looks real good
    Ok, sorry for the background

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helmetless
    Ok, sorry for the background
    second attempt
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    i think i got a good solution

    Quote Originally Posted by usernamehere
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    Those preset measurments might be a bit off-best way is to measure all forks yourself. OE specs for your bike may be on manufacturer website or bikepedia.Marz 55 might be a bit of overkill for that frame-65 ht is SLACK-u can always run it soft, but ultimately its ur biek, ur call.
    this guy "oldskoolbmx" on youtube gave me some inspiration and a new appreciation for what can be done with 100mm. im thinkin now more of a marz dj1 or dj pro because they wont screw up my geo and they have better damping/20mm TA. plus NOS 2007/2008 models can be had purty cheap.
    who put that tree there?

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    Sinister Ridge

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    I wish my grass was emo so it would cut itself...

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    Saving my nickels for a ridge....LUST

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    It does OK at climbing




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    That Ridge is d-o-p-e dope... Damn I want one! How do you like the ardents? What casing/compund are they and what kinda terrain do you ride on?

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    theyare the foldable casing. i think the hard casing. they suck in comparison to the advantage tho. thinking about going back to nevegals or trying some schwable somethings. as far as terrain. hjust about everything.
    I wish my grass was emo so it would cut itself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVrider


    climbs OK, huh (bet your decent from there was fun)...good to know. As I have one in brown awaiting cockpit and drivetrain parts. I'm excited to see how good of an all-a-rounder it is.

    What bar/stem size combo are you using?...looks to be around a 27inch bar and 50/60mm stem. I've been debating about which is the best compromise to keep the bike going up and down comfortably.

    Like your build by the way... since I'm running a Fox Vanilla, I'm gonna do blue ano bits on mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtb2thebeat
    climbs OK, huh (bet your decent from there was fun)...good to know. As I have one in brown awaiting cockpit and drivetrain parts. I'm excited to see how good of an all-a-rounder it is.

    What bar/stem size combo are you using?...looks to be around a 27inch bar and 50/60mm stem. I've been debating about which is the best compromise to keep the bike going up and down comfortably.

    Like your build by the way... since I'm running a Fox Vanilla, I'm gonna do blue ano bits on mine.
    I'm running the Sunline V-one stem(65mm) and handlebars(745mm). Excellent combo for me. There are more pics of the build on the previous page.

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    Updated - Ragley Blue Pig

    Finished upgrading my "do-it-all" bike over the winter. Can't wait to get this out on dirt after mud season.

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    Man I love Bluepigs. Nice build you got there!
    Selling my Sovereign. Check it out
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    DMR trailstar - Better pic

    Bike is no better though...


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    Quote Originally Posted by silly yak
    Bike is no better though...

    Whats up with the no pic and new account??


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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
    Whats up with the no pic and new account??
    That would be me being a knucklehead. Until you pointed it out, I hadn't even noticed. It was a couple of years ago, but I can only assume that I signed up at home, forgot I had, and then signed up again at work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SillyYak
    That would be me being a knucklehead. Until you pointed it out, I hadn't even noticed. It was a couple of years ago, but I can only assume that I signed up at home, forgot I had, and then signed up again at work.
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    2010 Cotic Soul

    Waiting for my 09 RS Revelation Air U turn forks to arrive (white), new saddle, tyres and some more red ano bling to tart it up.

    Just built... very happy.... well i will be when the trails dry out.






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    ^^^well thought out bike! Everything just looks right about it. I bet it will be a blast on the trail.
    Looking for/WTB : Grove Innovations Assault Fork, Grove Innovation Hammerhead Stem or Hothead Bar Stem

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    My turn...




    (Can't be assed to shorten the brake-lines, they'll be switched to braided ones next payday anyway so why bother?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnglishT
    My turn...

    (Can't be assed to shorten the brake-lines, they'll be switched to braided ones next payday anyway so why bother?)
    Nice hooker cant resist commenting on the fancy hose routing though.
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    Cool Cotic.

    I love the Soul and somtime Ill by one myself, seems to fit my style of riding.
    What size is your Soul and how long are you?

    Danski

    Quote Originally Posted by Syconate
    2010 Cotic Soul

    Waiting for my 09 RS Revelation Air U turn forks to arrive (white), new saddle, tyres and some more red ano bling to tart it up.

    Just built... very happy.... well i will be when the trails dry out.





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    Hey Danski.

    I am just over 6'2" and its a large (19 inch) frame.

    The bike is running a 80mm stem at the moment with 120mm forks and zero degree offset post.

    When the 09 110 - 140mm Revs go on it i will play with stem/bar and post combos then.

    It is a good fit and while i don't feel cramped there is always finessing to make things 100%.

    It has only been on a short ride so far but i was amazed at how well it does everything. Climbs brilliantly.... climbing is not my forte and my fitness levels are not great at the moment but i was firing up climbs i struggled with on my stumpjumper fsr even when fit. It decends so well and once i got used to the extra feedback from riding a hardtail again I was loving it.

    I have never been able to really rail corners before... this bike just makes you do it.

    Its love. I will own it til i kill it. If i can that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
    Nice hooker cant resist commenting on the fancy hose routing though.
    Well, I cant see the point in shortening them for the sake of a month (when they'll be switched out entirely).

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnglishT
    Well, I cant see the point in shortening them for the sake of a month (when they'll be switched out entirely).
    Not to worry bro id do the same thing, in fact my son replaced derailleur cables and housing on one of our bikes and they have some massive curve, im to lazy to fix his hurry job so its been like that for almost a year.
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    Some really nice bikes on here. This is my all mountain hardtail. I've had a lot of different bikes over the years (07 bullit, jackal, cove hustler, giant ac, giant vt and others) but this seems to make me want to get out and ride more then any of the others. There are things I would like to upgrade but its pretty good for now. Can handle anything I throw at it.

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    its a 2005 Norco Sasquatch

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    I think my next bike will be a norco hardtail... nice bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syconate
    2010 Cotic Soul

    Waiting for my 09 RS Revelation Air U turn forks to arrive (white), new saddle, tyres and some more red ano bling to tart it up.

    Just built... very happy.... well i will be when the trails dry out.


    Looks Sh1t, i bet it rides like cr@p



    You really have turned "meTRo" with the red anno bits.

    must catch up and test ride one of these days. The Reign is being stripped down tonight and i may even start building up the Ragley.

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    What you mean is it needs more red ano?

    Get the Ragley built asap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syconate
    What you mean is it needs more red ano?

    Get the Ragley built asap.
    Gorgeous bike...
    ...but yes, more red ano is always needed!

    Heres an excuse - get a more even spread by adding a bit of red ano in the middle, eg: seatpost clamp, chainring bolts or bashguard...
    Red lock-on clamps and endcaps always look good too.

    You can never have too much red ano!



    Ok - just to prove I'm not too anal to get this thing dirty (but damn it took ages to clean )...



    (Yes, I know the damned hose is loose at the back, the ziptie broke on the way round... luckily for me, the shop (inside the hut) gave me one so it wasn't dangling the next ride)

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    Haha... Yeah there is more red on its way but it's still a mountain bike so knocks, bumps and scratches are par for the course.

    Seat clamp, lock on clamps, chainring bolts and maybe a red hope BB in time. It also now has brand new white and red 09 Revelation 426 Air U turns.

    Can't wait to get back out on the trails with the new fork. The fox floats were nice but a little flexy. It climbs so well i was quite amazed and the downhills are a blast. maybe later in the week if the cyclone north of here doesn't soak us with too much bloody rain..... it seems to be raining all the time of late...... must be because i have a new bike.

    Dual suspension is all well and good but hardtails are now my kind of bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syconate

    Dual suspension is all well and good but hardtails are now my kind of bike.
    big call there. it seems to be the catchcry these days.

    well i hope so for my sake,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pitto
    big call there. it seems to be the catchcry these days.

    well i hope so for my sake,
    If it ever gets built... you will love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnglishT
    Gorgeous bike...


    Ok - just to prove I'm not too anal to get this thing dirty (but damn it took ages to clean )..
    Now thats what a bike should look like, great job!!
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    '01 Specialized Enduro Pro HT. Pic taken last week, frame is in new condition. When I picked it up last season it had never even had a BB threaded into it.

    Holy Rollers are on it until the trails harden up around here.
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    Cannondale Furio X with upgrades

    This one isn't quite as nice as most of these but its fun to ride. Upgrading as parts go out, upgrades include:

    Mavic CrossTrail Wheelset
    Avid BB7 Disc Brakes
    X-5 Shifters
    Ergo Grips
    Specialized Captain (front)
    Specialized Fast Trak (back)
    Fizik Tundra Saddle
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    Nice Cannondale.

    you should angle your front quick release up instead of down. so it doesnt get snagged and open :O

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    Thanks for looking. I'll get that release angled up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcarm
    '01 Specialized Enduro Pro HT. Pic taken last week, frame is in new condition. When I picked it up last season it had never even had a BB threaded into it.

    Holy Rollers are on it until the trails harden up around here.
    wow! never seen one like this! looks great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by d.n.s
    wow! never seen one like this! looks great!
    Thank you, I believe 01 was the only year it was ever made, so that may be why!

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    Very nice! I love those EVIL frames.
    Looks like a good day at the office.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogonfr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rb


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    Quote Originally Posted by bcarm
    '01 Specialized Enduro Pro HT.
    very cool!
    post up how it rides.
    i have the same frame sitting at home unbuilt and wonder how it would be.

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    My Am/FR Transition Vagrant weighs in at about 34 and1/2 lbs with gravity dropper post on it. How much does the average AM HT weigh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluevagrant
    My Am/FR Transition Vagrant weighs in at about 34 and1/2 lbs with gravity dropper post on it. How much does the average AM HT weigh?
    Depends...

    In standard trail trim mine (ti) sits at about 27lbs right now, with no real weight-weenie parts (but its built for AM more than FR).
    With some fr-worthy tires and a dropper post it would probably be around 30lbs.

    (Fwiw, you've got about 2lb of frame weight more than I have)

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    EnglishT... how do you like those Hutchinson Toro's? I was wondering how you like it for an all around trail tire?

    Looker of a bike by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtb2thebeat
    EnglishT... how do you like those Hutchinson Toro's? I was wondering how you like it for an all around trail tire?

    Looker of a bike by the way.
    Cheers.

    I like them - works well in a variety of conditions and transitions nicely to cornering (but does slide a little if pushed too hard). If you want a tire to corner agressively with there are more suitable options out there (the barracuda for example) but if you want one for a more subtle technique you'll really get these to shine.
    Volume is good and the casing is pretty wide (larger casing than a 2.4MK for example) but the cornering knobs dont stick out too far so it's not really as wide as most tires of a similar casing size - in short, its really more like a 2.25 than 2.35, but has a nice casing volume so it floats like a large tire.

    Not many to match them as an allrounder - well worth trying.

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    Does the front slide or or the rear? or both? I think I'd be okay with the rear sliding a little...but I don't like front tires that push in corners. I do tend to lean a bit, since my bike is a 1/2 size small to work underneath.

    Rb and others... I love pic of the Sovereigns, each with it's own flare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtb2thebeat
    Does the front slide or or the rear? or both? I think I'd be okay with the rear sliding a little...but I don't like front tires that push in corners. I do tend to lean a bit, since my bike is a 1/2 size small to work underneath.

    Rb and others... I love pic of the Sovereigns, each with it's own flare.
    I've not had them slide when using as a pair, though I've had the rear slide a little with a 2.3 barracuda (a bigger tire that needs a hefty lean-in to engage well) on the front.
    I'm not saying that they're no good for leaning into turns, I'm just saying they work better with a smoother leaning technique rather than needing a concerted effort to "throw" the bike over (and that if you use the latter technique with them, it's possible to slide them - as it is with many other tires).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtb2thebeat
    Does the front slide or or the rear? or both? I think I'd be okay with the rear sliding a little...but I don't like front tires that push in corners. I do tend to lean a bit, since my bike is a 1/2 size small to work underneath.

    Rb and others... I love pic of the Sovereigns, each with it's own flare.

    The middle Sovereign is mineZ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtb2thebeat
    Does the front slide or or the rear? or both? I think I'd be okay with the rear sliding a little...but I don't like front tires that push in corners. I do tend to lean a bit, since my bike is a 1/2 size small to work underneath..

    Maxxis DHF 3C 2.5 on the front if you want predictable all year traction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnglishT
    Depends...

    In standard trail trim mine (ti) sits at about 27lbs right now, with no real weight-weenie parts (but its built for AM more than FR).
    With some fr-worthy tires and a dropper post it would probably be around 30lbs.

    (Fwiw, you've got about 2lb of frame weight more than I have)

    Another pic for thread...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluevagrant
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    I figured I'd throw up an updated pic of my Transition Vagrant. I've made a bunch of upgrades: Thomson 70 mm stem, Thomson seatpost, Crank Bros. Acid pedals, Hayes 8 inch front rotor and a pair of WTB Moto Raptor 2.25 inch tires.

    I still love this bike.



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    Quote Originally Posted by bluevagrant
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    Quote Originally Posted by VTSession
    I figured I'd throw up an updated pic of my Transition Vagrant. I've made a bunch of upgrades: Thomson 70 mm stem, Thomson seatpost, Crank Bros. Acid pedals, Hayes 8 inch front rotor and a pair of WTB Moto Raptor 2.25 inch tires.

    I still love this bike.



    I'd love to see your SS bike this Vagrant looks just great!

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    My New Trail-beater

    I finally got enough parts to put this thing together.

    In the next few weeks I hope to get a better wheelset, fork, and some other misc. parts.

    For now my focus is on cleaning up it's appearance and removing some of the stickers that were put on the frame. Who knows; if I like the geometry enough, I might spring to get the new version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djr8505
    I finally got enough parts to put this thing together.

    In the next few weeks I hope to get a better wheelset, fork, and some other misc. parts.

    For now my focus is on cleaning up it's appearance and removing some of the stickers that were put on the frame. Who knows; if I like the geometry enough, I might spring to get the new version.
    Looking awesome!!!!

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    looking for a modest HT frame. Say On one 456, Ragley or similar. I'm leaning towards a 456 (is the sparkley chocolate the std colour?)
    Anyone got experience of both?

    I like the look of the Evil and Chromag but a bit too spendy in the UK esp given that I have 4 bikes

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    Here's the sizes and colors that On-One has in stock

    The geometries between 456 and Ragley Blue Pig look different enough to be significant. Especially the angles.

    I recently spotted another British brand steel AM HT: Sanderson Blitz:
    http://www.sanderson-cycles.co.uk/blitz.html
    Does anybody know anything about them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzl62
    looking for a modest HT frame. Say On one 456, Ragley or similar. I'm leaning towards a 456 (is the sparkley chocolate the std colour?)
    Anyone got experience of both?

    I like the look of the Evil and Chromag but a bit too spendy in the UK esp given that I have 4 bikes
    NS Surge is an awesome frame that can even handle DH.

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    What size is that one? On CRC they say that the 15.5 fits like a 17 so I'm guess low and long(ish) is what they mean. I have a Curtis Racelite but its more like a 13 and its waay too small to have the seat at even a not so sensible pedalling height

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    Having looked I think it might be a touch heavier than I am looking for

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzl62
    Having looked I think it might be a touch heavier than I am looking for

    LoL your one of those ayy.

    Thats the 15.5 im 5'7" riding mostly DH and pump track.
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    So dogon how is the med for seatpost length if you wanted to pedal up somewhere?

    No, not a weight weenie ( I own a Brooklyn Machineworks ) just looing for something with an appropriate weight for the things I will do on it, ie trails, commute, hacking etc
    I have a Mojo for more AM duties but I defo don't want an XC frame, I like it low and smallish

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    Quote Originally Posted by mosplat
    very cool!
    post up how it rides.
    i have the same frame sitting at home unbuilt and wonder how it would be.

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    i'll take post-ride muddy pics to show later.

    Chromag are just sweet!! Nice bike!!!

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    update rumble 1.5

    Here is my bike after shortening the chain and cables, new grips and front tire. I've gotta say this frame has been amazing. The shorter chainstays might have made it a little less predictable in uphill climbing but on jumps and downhill trails it feels more natural. The frame also wheelies so much better than my other frame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nzl62
    So dogon how is the med for seatpost length if you wanted to pedal up somewhere?

    No, not a weight weenie ( I own a Brooklyn Machineworks ) just looing for something with an appropriate weight for the things I will do on it, ie trails, commute, hacking etc
    I have a Mojo for more AM duties but I defo don't want an XC frame, I like it low and smallish
    For up hill, which I try to avoid like the plague, seat goes up about 1/2-3/4" more than it is in the pic. For DH and playing I will ride it anywhere from where it is to about 1" below the lettering on the post.

    Sweetness got some exotic toys their!!! I went for the Surge because it is DH friendly and the price was right for my spare parts/cheapo build. So far been very happy with it really makes me appreciate the Blitz II's travel.
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    Here's one of mine, 2002 daVinci, Easton Ultralite custom frame, 17", with 2001 parts:

    Shimano XT front/rear derailleur
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    WTB Speedmaster Rims/Hubs built by Wheelsmith
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    Weight: 20.5 lbs

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    Oh, and:

    Ritchey WCS Titanium clipless pedals with Decksters mounted.

    Here's a couple more pics:

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    Not trying to disrespect any ones pride and joy but...is this really an All-Mtn hardtail?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluevagrant
    Not trying to disrespect any ones pride and joy but...is this really an All-Mtn hardtail?
    With those tires on it, it's not much of a mountain bike at all...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkley
    With those tires on it, it's not much of a mountain bike at all...

    Heh heh heh, tires alone do not make any bike AM; quick switch of wheels with knobbies, and she goes up, through, and down any mountain; besides, it's all about the rider friend...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkley
    With those tires on it, it's not much of a mountain bike at all...
    You should move over to the Real All Mountain thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluevagrant
    Not trying to disrespect any ones pride and joy but...is this really an All-Mtn hardtail?

    You tell me, what is the universally accepted and written in granite definition of AM?

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    I think most AM hardtails guys get on this thread to see REAL AM Bikes (the definition is not granite, but definitely has boundaries). One may feel like AM is their riding style, and so mistakenly conclude that the bike they ride is AM, and so they post their bike on this thread. You may be such an accomplished rider that you can take 4 to 5ft drops on your CC hardtail, but it still doesn't make your bike an AM hardtail. Your CC rig might be a supernice bike, and may deserve it's own praise, but not on a AM thread

    I feel like my riding style is AM, but I would never dream of posting pictures of my current ride on this thread because it is NOT an AM hardtail, it is a CC hardtail. I am however building a bike that will fit the AM hardtail category. While my riding style may stay close to the same... I refuse to post pictures until I have a legit AM hardtail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtb2thebeat
    I think most AM hardtails guys get on this thread to see REAL AM Bikes (the definition is not granite, but definitely has boundaries). One may feel like AM is their riding style, and so mistakenly conclude that the bike they ride is AM, and so they post their bike on this thread. You may be such an accomplished rider that you can take 4 to 5ft drops on your CC hardtail, but it still doesn't make your bike an AM hardtail. Your CC rig might be a supernice bike, and may deserve it's own praise, but not on a AM thread

    I feel like my riding style is AM, but I would never dream of posting pictures of my current ride on this thread because it is NOT an AM hardtail, it is a CC hardtail. I am however building a bike that will fit the AM hardtail category. While my riding style may stay close to the same... I refuse to post pictures until I have a legit AM hardtail.

    When you have that so-called "legit AM", post a pic along with the "legit" definition of AM. Because many here aren't old enough to remember clunkers that evolved into MTB's, a time when there were no "CC's", "DH's", etc., a time before "purpose" built bikes, ALL bikes qualified as AM, and that, my friend, had everything to do with rider skill and daring, and nothing to do with exotic eye candy bling bling.

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    I wonder, is there a genetic predisposition in some people that makes them spontaneously combust if they can't categorise everything.
    That's the only reason I can think for people desperate to say a mountain bike does not fit into a category known as all mountain.

    So it's not part of all then?
    What category is it?
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