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    Quote Originally Posted by CannondaleF9 View Post
    List one XC bike that has a HA slacker than 69*. They're all at least 69*, there are short travel trail bikes that are slacker, but travel doesn't make a specific bike category anymore.
    Beat me to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacobray View Post
    What new XC race bike is sub 68*?
    sub 69* for that matter.

    Cannondale Synapse Si- 69.5*
    Trek Top Fuel 70*
    Giant Anthem 68* (this is the one outlier as the 29" version is 71.5*)
    Rocky Mountain Element 69*-70*
    Kona Hei Hei Race 69*

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    Quote Originally Posted by CannondaleF9 View Post
    sub 69* for that matter.

    Cannondale Synapse Si- 69.5*
    Trek Top Fuel 70*
    Giant Anthem 68* (this is the one outlier as the 29" version is 71.5*)
    Rocky Mountain Element 69*-70*
    Kona Hei Hei Race 69*
    Yep, I agree. I was just using his number. Specialized epic 70.75*

    Have we derailed this thread enough yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CannondaleF9 View Post
    List one XC bike that has a HA slacker than 69*. They're all at least 69*, there are short travel trail bikes that are slacker, but travel doesn't make a specific bike category anymore.
    Scott Spark is 68.5*
    Giant Anthem is 67*
    Most of the others are getting slacker, but haven't passed below the magic 69* yet.

    XC race bikes are heading toward 120mm travel and the burlier bikes are getting better at climbing.

    Lines are blurring. It's an exciting time to be a bike nerd.

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    Trance is 67*. Anthem is 68* Unkess you are talking about the Anthem SX, which is just putting a longer fork on the bike, resulting in a 67.5* HA.

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    The workshop last evening...
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    The All Mountain Hardtail Thread. Post up yours.-img_4655.jpg

    My XC hardtail on the left and my new AM hardtail on the right. Slightly different geometry.
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    Don't just leave it on the head angle alone. There are far more differences.

    AM hardtails have sturdier and heavier frames, slacker geometry, sometimes have longer wheelbase, short stems with wide bars and big meaty tires even if those are personal preference; they are pretty much the way to go if you have an AM hardtail in the first place.
    And of course, more than 120mm of travel which is usually the limit for XC hardtails.

    Now move on.

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    NS Surge Evo finally got a proper fork


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    what is it? can't see your pic

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    Fox 34 Talas 150

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pablov View Post
    My Dartmoor Primal Plus.

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    Currently building one of these in 29. What fork do you have on it? How do you like it? Great looking build BTW!

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    Hello...

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    Love this thread, all the bickering about what is or not

    Head angles a bit steep on mine but steering stays constant and direct, and technicaly racing DH is not AM but i did ride back to the top so kinda AM

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    Not sure why my imgur linked photo didn't work the other day. Let's try with photobucket:


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    Here is my first build progress
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    Bird Zero AM, size L, Candy Orange
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    Finally!
    2015 NS Bikes Eccentric Cromo small
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    XT derailleur, SLX shifter, XT cassette 1x10
    Sram crank with Absolute Black 32t oval chainring.
    Thomson post and Spesh saddle
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    I see hills.

    I want to climb them.

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    Here's mine!!! Climbs up any wall and rides down any descent... And it also does all day 100 mile dirt days... Doesnt really do anything well... but does everything...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpercussive View Post
    Here's mine!!! Climbs up any wall and rides down any descent... And it also does all day 100 mile dirt days... Doesnt really do anything well... but does everything...

    Whoa what kind of ibex is that?!

    I like cheap stuff that works great and is very sturdy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottzg View Post
    Whoa what kind of ibex is that?!

    2000 Kona Cinder Cone built with donor parts and stuff lying in the garage... :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpercussive View Post
    2000 Kona Cinder Cone built with donor parts and stuff lying in the garage... :P
    That's pretty cool. Welcome back to mtbr btw.
    I like cheap stuff that works great and is very sturdy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottzg View Post
    That's pretty cool. Welcome back to mtbr btw.
    Thanks! Was off the bike after I broke myself a while back... mostly a roadie now... But every once in a while i'll take the Kona out to just get lost in the woods...

    https://www.strava.com/athletes/11347213

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpercussive View Post
    Thanks! Was off the bike after I broke myself a while back... mostly a roadie now... But every once in a while i'll take the Kona out to just get lost in the woods...

    https://www.strava.com/athletes/11347213
    Holy hell you ARE a roadie. Followed!
    I like cheap stuff that works great and is very sturdy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottzg View Post
    Holy hell you ARE a roadie. Followed!
    off the bike for 6 years after i broke myself racing downhill... got into road bikes september last year and that got me back into bikes... now i'm slowing inching my way back into dirt too... Shit man... you're local!!! Didnt know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrpercussive View Post
    off the bike for 6 years after i broke myself racing downhill... got into road bikes september last year and that got me back into bikes... now i'm slowing inching my way back into dirt too... Shit man... you're local!!! Didnt know!
    hahahaha yup. Same for me- injured my knee in 2010, got fat in the year it took to heal, and was off the bike for several years. It's good to be back.
    I like cheap stuff that works great and is very sturdy.

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    Drops ballsy, Johnny T approved as when he wasn't racing DH or xc he played with road bikes and wanted to keep the bikes similar....
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    Norco Torrent B+. An absolute blast to ride


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    Work in progress

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    Quote Originally Posted by boardjnky4 View Post
    NS Surge Evo finally got a proper fork

    Nice and bright! Can that frame accommodate a tapered fork? Or is that a straight steerer? Seat looks comfy too!

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    This looks real nice. Well done. Not too familiar with these frames but looks fun! Also, dig the orange.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stevob View Post

    No ride report just yet.

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    Pretty sweet! I'm interested in what you think after logging some time. I was between this frame and the Surge Evo and ultimately went with the Surge based on wheel size flexibility. Quite a few NS frames posted recently!


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    The All Mountain Hardtail Thread. Post up yours.

    Quote Originally Posted by slipperyb View Post
    Nice and bright! Can that frame accommodate a tapered fork? Or is that a straight steerer? Seat looks comfy too!



    This looks real nice. Well done. Not too familiar with these frames but looks fun! Also, dig the orange.



    Pretty sweet! I'm interested in what you think after logging some time. I was between this frame and the Surge Evo and ultimately went with the Surge based on wheel size flexibility. Quite a few NS frames posted recently!


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    Yeah it's tapered, you need an external lower cup. It's a cane creek 40 zs44/ec44 headset.

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    Just came in the mail on Monday, cant wait to ride the new shred sled

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    Quote Originally Posted by camersieg View Post
    Just came in the mail on Monday, cant wait to ride the new shred sled
    Dude sweet chromag


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