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    Quote Originally Posted by Fix the Spade View Post
    It's not much of an issue on hardtails because the chainstay length/chain tension isn't constantly changing like on a FS bike.
    Makes alotta sense! Well, here's a crappy shot of mine before I even got out on it:

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    My new all mountain hardtail is a bit of a work in progress...


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    My trail cruiser; it's been a lot of fun thus far! I opted for a trunk bag over a backpack and it's worked well thus far, but there are definite pros and cons! I like going out later in the day when the local trails are almost abandoned and the temperatures are more bearable, hence the light...and bear spray! Granted, I have yet to come across a bear and the deer just give me dirty looks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leahpatra View Post
    I am not too savvy with parts yet. I am going very fast over rough terrain with three dogs pulling me. I have to think fast in order to dodge those rocks.
    This sounds so awesome! what kind of dogs are you using? went on a sled dog tour this winter and was surprised that every dog was a mutt of some sort, huskys and hounds mainly. either way this sounds like a damn good time. any photos or videos?

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    2014 Diamondback Mason Large
    Frame chemical dipped so raw aluminum
    RS 140mm Revelation RTC3 fork
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    Hope hubs
    Light Bicycle 35mm hookless rims
    Maxxis Ikon 2.35 f/r
    XX1 BB30 cranks with modded BB to make work
    X01 Derailleur and cassette
    Specialized Command internal dropper, with the seat tube drilled to make work
    Wolf Tooth narrow/wide chainring
    XT brakes and rotors

    LOVE this thing! 24lbs with pedals



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    Quote Originally Posted by aaddzz99 View Post
    thanks alot and happy birthday to your bike
    I snagged a Truvativ Hussefelt 40mm (comes in 60mm also) for $22 on amazon.
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    The All Mountain Hardtail Thread. Post up yours.-img_20140804_124017.jpg

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    I have posted it again but since then there were some changes so I am reposting it.

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    The All Mountain Hardtail Thread. Post up yours.-kona.jpg

    new to me kona steely. Got out of riding for a few years and now I am back and this season I have ridden a ton. Its heavy, not fancy and is build with a random assortment of parts.. I love it! I got back into the sport for around $500 (I had some parts laying around).. I couldn't be happier.

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    Not sure if you still have it avail but I am looking for a lrg chromag stylus

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    Did a search for a Salsa within this thread and was a bit surprised to come up empty handed. Definitely time to remedy that!

    So then here is my 2011 Salsa ala Carte in AM config.
    - Seamless, Triple-Butted, Japanese-made Sanko Steel frame in 20" large
    - BB height is 320mm with 26" wheels
    - HT angle is 67.50 thanks to the 140mm RS Revelation RCT3
    - 2x10, Crossmax XL, Thomson, Renthal, Fizik
    - All in at 12.5kg incl. 2kg(!) of Hans Dampf Evo's
    - Compatible with 27.5" wheels

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    Surely I cannot be the only one out there with a Salsa HT in AM guise?
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    waiting for NW chainring for some speeds and a seatpost, but it already rides awesome!

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    why n/w ring on ss? unless you swap to and fro of shifty things and ss?

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    ок, "for 9 speeds". sorry for my English.

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    Canfield Brothers

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    Yelli Screamy its a 1x10 right now with a fox 130 but i just ordered an xx1 group and a Pike 140

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    Sick Yelli !!

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    The All Mountain Hardtail Thread. Post up yours.-leader1.jpgThe All Mountain Hardtail Thread. Post up yours.-leader2.jpgLeader 516h
    Not too many around

    Here's mine with Neuvation Wheels

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    My 2Souls Quarterhorse, with full X01, Manitou Tower fork, Hope Tech 3 E4 brakes, Renthal bar + stem, KS LEV 150mm dropper post, Ryde Enduro rims with Hope Pro EVO II hubs, DT Swiss Competition Race spokes and black brass DT Swiss Pro Lock nipples.

    Running an Ikon 2.2 and 2.35 (tubeless) at the moment. Also have a 2.4 Ardent laying around, but I really like the the current setup.

    I have been thinking of buying a 140mm Pike, but can't really find a good reason to purchase that since I really like the bike how she is now! Maybe in the future when the Tower wears out

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    I haven't posted any recent pics of my current setup, but not much has changed since the beginning, this season simply raised the bars 25mm and added a 40mm Chromag Ranger stem from the previous 50mm Thomson X4. Much better fit than before with the slammed stem. And finally went 142x12 Maxle Lite rear end after getting a new hub from Sun Ringle's great warranty department.


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    Looking through this thread on ideas for a frame. I like the Dekerf Implant, though the manufacturer wants $2100 for the frame. Its tubing is Reynolds 853 with a stainless headset, a choice of 12 colors and sliding dropouts to run either 27.5" or 26" wheels. With a 120mm travel fork the head angle is 70*, the frame will utilize 120mm to 150mm of travel.

    I can get the same deal on a similar frame out of the UK for about $1300usd, what is making frames cost so much more in North America?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pdxmark View Post
    Looking through this thread on ideas for a frame. I like the Dekerf Implant, though the manufacturer wants $2100 for the frame.
    What's the similar frame?

    Regards Dekerf, they're the super high end, they build completely gorgeous made to measure hand painted frames, with the price to match. Certainly not the kind of bike you buy with your head but the few I've seen in the flesh (in the tubes?) were just lovely.

    There are cheaper custom builders in the US (Curtlo and Waltworks spring to mind), but they don't do hand brushed flames like Dekerf do.

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    Ragley mmmBop | 150mm | 1x10

    Here is the Ragley which I built up last year. Sadly have sold it now, what a fun bike it was! It was slow but sure progress up hill, but man it was intense going back down. It took a while to get used to the diving sensation from the 6 inch fork.

    Specs:
    Ragley mmmBop aluminium frame
    150mm Sektor, 20mm maxle, giving a generous 65 degree head angle!
    32t Raceface crankset
    1x10 with Zee shifting and 11-36 cassette.
    100mm X-Fusion Hilo dropper post
    50mm stem with 720mm Funn bars
    2.35 Hans Dampf and High Roller combo on 26x29.5mm Sun Rhyno-lites. This frame can take 2.5" in the rear!

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    custom painted 2011 NS Surge with custom decals...

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    Dig the custom surge, kanfierce.

    Gonna keep the surge love going with the most recent incarnation of mine.

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    Hi guys. I have a 2014 Surge Evo and I am a little worried about the welding quality of the frame since my 2 first frames suffered from welding porosity but the 3rd one seems to be OK at least visually.

    Other than that I really like it.

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    Re: The All Mountain Hardtail Thread. Post up yours.



    Only have it at 120mm but it's buildt for up to 150 and I'll be getting a 130-140 sweep/velvety or pike or something
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    Here's my freshly built ROS9 singlespeed.
    Large frame
    XTR cranks, brakes and pedals
    2015 DT Swiss 120mm fork
    2015 DT Swiss XM 1501 wheelset
    Thompson stem, bars and seatpost
    Carbon saddle.
    King Ti cage
    25lbs with pedals.

    Favorite bike of all time in over 30yrs of mtbing. It's that good!
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    On One 456c

    My favorite bike

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    Re: The All Mountain Hardtail Thread. Post up yours.


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    Muh Trans Am w/ custom decals


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    Just built this Ragley Piglet2 up from a few new parts and bunch of parts from my parts bin.





    * SLX cranks and brakes. XT 11-34 cassette + e.13 40t cog.

    * Zee shifter and rear mech. Saint pedals.

    * Manitou Minute pro 140, tapered, 20mm axle fork.

    * Hope hoops wheels with Stans flow rims, 2.3 Maxxis High Roller2 front, and 2.25 Maxxis Ardent rear setup tubeless.

    * Easton Havoc 65mm stem, Answer bars cut to 760mm, Raceface sniper grips, Raceface seatpost, SDG belair RL saddle

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    Re: The All Mountain Hardtail Thread. Post up yours.

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    trek fuel 98 (road custom)

    You do realize this is the "all mountain" thread...? Lol

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    Good job! in Aizuwakamatsu JAPAN

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    sorry,,,
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    Dartmoor Primal 29

    My Primal 29, with 120mm Manitou for the time being

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    Quote Originally Posted by DYI01 View Post
    Just built this Ragley Piglet2 up from a few new parts and bunch of parts from my parts bin.





    * SLX cranks and brakes. XT 11-34 cassette + e.13 40t cog.

    * Zee shifter and rear mech. Saint pedals.

    * Manitou Minute pro 140, tapered, 20mm axle fork.

    * Hope hoops wheels with Stans flow rims, 2.3 Maxxis High Roller2 front, and 2.25 Maxxis Ardent rear setup tubeless.

    * Easton Havoc 65mm stem, Answer bars cut to 760mm, Raceface sniper grips, Raceface seatpost, SDG belair RL saddle
    I have a similar build in Green, flows, marz 55cr... i'm always amazed at how much fun this thing is to flog.

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    2014 Dartmoor Hornet 27.5

    2014 Dartmoor Hornet / Shimano XT Groupset / Shimano Saint pedals / Rockshox Pike 150mm solo air / 180mm Brakco rotors / Dartmoor Raider 27.5 wheels / Dartmoor Revolt Hubs / Maxxis High Roller 2 (F) Maxxis Ardent (R) / Dartmoor Blaze Headset / Odi Rouge Grips / Bontrager Rythm Pro 750mm Handlebar / WTB Speed V saddle
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    Cool-blue Rhythm On-One 456

    Another On-One 456! I missed my Ragley so much that I bought this two months after arriving in the UK. 150mm Revelation, SLX drivetrain (3x9, gross), Deore brakes, 200mm front disc(!!!), 2.4" Mountain Kings, 720mm Nukeproof bar, Nukeproof flat pedals. Haven't had time to ride it yet. Depending on what the trails are like in Sussex, I plan to reconfigure the bike. Maybe a 2x9/bash setup, 30mm stem, dropper post.

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    It's interesting to note what a decent fork can do for a mediocre (at best) hardtail frame. There was a picture of this work-in-progress in an earlier post, but here's an action shot with the addition of the XT crankset, XT brakes and a E-Ten 100mm lever dropper.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoNin9r View Post
    You do realize this is the "all mountain" thread...? Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Bluth View Post
    You do realize this is the "all mountain" thread...? Lol
    It is an "all mountain" hardtail.

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    The All Mountain Hardtail Thread. Post up yours.-img-20140926-01020.jpg

    I believe as long as you RIDE Up the trail then RIDE Down then you are ALL Mountain and that makes your hardtail "all mountain" Yes?

    RIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CannondaleF9 View Post
    It is an "all mountain" hardtail.
    I think it's more of an xc (perhaps trail) bike. Fork looks to be 120mm, angles don't look very slack (hard to tell from picture tho), egg beaters, saddle bag, no dropper post, racing ralph on the back? If the guy is going to rag on other people for posting non-all mountain bikes in this thread he should do the same.

    Nice bike though. I just don't see how it can be classified as all mountain and it's ironic the guy jumped all over someone else for not posting a proper AM hardtail.
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    OK so there are "specs" involved in-order to qualify as All Mountain? I thought lots of slack and travel was for downhill gravity riders, shuttle type with full face helmets?
    I assumed All Mountain is XC with lots of long UP and some jumping and technical down hill with tons of braking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burt4x4 View Post
    OK so there are "specs" involved in-order to qualify as All Mountain? I thought lots of slack and travel was for downhill gravity riders, shuttle type with full face helmets?
    I assumed All Mountain is XC with lots of long UP and some jumping and technical down hill with tons of braking?
    I guess so. Ask the All Mountain Police that get their panties in a knot whenever someone posts a bike that isn't gnar-worthy enough. I'm just calling out hypocritical behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Bluth View Post
    I think it's more of an xc (perhaps trail) bike. Fork looks to be 120mm, angles don't look very slack (hard to tell from picture tho), egg beaters, saddle bag, no dropper post, racing ralph on the back? If the guy is going to rag on other people for posting non-all mountain bikes in this thread he should do the same.

    Nice bike though. I just don't see how it can be classified as all mountain and it's ironic the guy jumped all over someone else for not posting a proper AM hardtail.
    Did you notice that the bike that he called out for being not "all mountain" was a full suspension bike with slick tyres?

    Also, I don't think the name "All Mountain" doesn't have credibility any more. Neither does "Trail". "Trail" is any mountain bike, if you ride it on a trail.
    I think there should be four categories of mountain bikes.
    Recreational- sub $900 bikes that have similar geometry to a XC bike, but costs less and has lower end components.
    XC- (Cross Country)- steeper HT angle, longer chainstays, 80-120mm of front end travel, hardtail or Full suspension
    Enduro- 120-170mm of front end travel, dropper post compatibility, room for wide tyres.
    Freeride/Downhill- 180 and up suspension travel, full suspension,

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    Quote Originally Posted by CannondaleF9 View Post
    Did you notice that the bike that he called out for being not "all mountain" was a full suspension bike with slick tyres?

    Also, I don't think the name "All Mountain" doesn't have credibility any more. Neither does "Trail". "Trail" is any mountain bike, if you ride it on a trail.
    I think there should be four categories of mountain bikes.
    Recreational- sub $900 bikes that have similar geometry to a XC bike, but costs less and has lower end components.
    XC- (Cross Country)- steeper HT angle, longer chainstays, 80-120mm of front end travel, hardtail or Full suspension
    Enduro- 120-170mm of front end travel, dropper post compatibility, room for wide tyres.
    Freeride/Downhill- 180 and up suspension travel, full suspension,
    Good points but one could argue that the lower range of "Enduro" say 120-150 is actually "trail" and "150-170" is "Enduro (previously known as All-Marketing.)"
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    What is a really good All mountain hard tail for a beginner. preferably under 700?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tristanbikes View Post
    What is a really good All mountain hard tail for a beginner. preferably under 700?
    A really good bike doesn't exist for new under $700.
    No all mountain bike exists for under $700.
    Unless you buy used.

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