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    All mountain hard tail guys... rolling 26, 27.5 or 29 this year?

    what direction are you guys going this year with the three wheel sizes... seems like its dominated by 26? what are your thoughts.

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    Same, 26". Very happy with this setup.

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    They can take my 26" Chromag Samurai from me when they pry it from my cold dead hands.

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    29 for me. Yelli Screamy
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    Same, 29". Very happy with this setup.
    They can take my 29" Kona Honzo from me when they pry it from my cold dead hands.
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    Doing up a custom ti 29 SS trail/am this year w/ geo along lines of chromag surface. I might think about 27.5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeePhroh View Post
    They can take my 26" Chromag Samurai from me when they pry it from my cold dead hands.
    I'm thinking about trying some 27.5"s on my 26" Curtlo. By all accounts 650x2.3's will clear fine, raise the BB 1/2" or less. Dropping the fork 20mm will bring the BB back down 1/4" and steepen the head angle slightly, which is a good thing with bigger wheels. Geometry is nearly identical to the chromag, so it's an option for you....nice to have options!

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    29 canfield nimble 9 for me.

    Please dont steal my bike after I die, even if my hands are cold. Just bury me with it.

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    26inches, all the way until my ankles explode.

    I didn't get into mountain biking to make it more comfortable, nor have I ever found a bike more fun to ride fast than a hard tail 26er with big brakes and good tyres.

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    I'm happy with my Nimble 9 as well. So 29" for me.

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    SC Chameleon. 26" though I'd love to switch to a Banshee Paradox or Canfield Yelli Screamy 29r someday.
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    29er all the way.

    Especially after 2 26ers (TransAm and 456 SS), I'm never going back to clown wheels again.
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    Sticking with my 26" evil sovereign until the frame breaks in half! If that ever happens I'll rethink about it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DimitrisCSD View Post
    Sticking with my 26" evil sovereign until the frame breaks in half! If that ever happens I'll rethink about it...
    If you ever get the itch, the sovereign can take 650b wheels, with decent geometry too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    29er all the way.

    Especially after 2 26ers (TransAm and 456 SS), I'm never going back to clown wheels again.
    I think you got the joke wrong. 29er's are clown bikes.

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    Never is a bold word. I love my 26 in transAM. The honzo appeals to me as well. Too many bikes now. Damn you bike industry, just take my money and shut up!

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    so for the most part... 26 and 29ers...

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    wagon wheels
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    Quote Originally Posted by dump View Post
    If you ever get the itch, the sovereign can take 650b wheels, with decent geometry too.
    Yes I'm aware and it sounds interesting as a project. However my 2012 revelation won't accept a 650b wheel. Thus I don't think I'd be willing to pay for a new fork just to try that out...

    You never know what will happen in the future though

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    I'll be running 26" on all my bikes as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkon11 View Post
    I think you got the joke wrong. 29er's are clown bikes.
    The dude's like eleven feet tall or something, so he's preferential to bigger wheels.


    Is anyone even making a production all mountain 650b specific frame yet?

    I'm considering a return to a 26" AM hardtail, despite swearing I would try a 29er next

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkon11 View Post
    I think you got the joke wrong. 29er's are clown bikes.
    I think I have it right.
    Quote Originally Posted by bad news View Post
    The dude's like eleven feet tall or something, so he's preferential to bigger wheels.

    Is anyone even making a production all mountain 650b specific frame yet?

    I'm considering a return to a 26" AM hardtail, despite swearing I would try a 29er next
    6'4" actually.

    This is what I felt like on my previous bikes:



    As for a production 650B, Chromag is making a Samurai 650B and so is 2Souls Cycles, the 650Bee Studie.


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    it's terrifying how much similar to a Sovereign that 2souls is...

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    26" till I die

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    6'4" actually.

    This is what I felt like on my previous bikes:
    Pff, midget!

    You really should save up and get a custom frame, even keeping 26in wheels it solved the 'riding bent double on top of a gate' feeling I got from XL frames. You could sell me the Honzo frame then...

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    29er fur sure

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    26 club!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fix the Spade View Post
    Pff, midget!

    You really should save up and get a custom frame, even keeping 26in wheels it solved the 'riding bent double on top of a gate' feeling I got from XL frames. You could sell me the Honzo frame then...
    I really thought about going with your custom builder, Stout Bikes, and replicating a slightly bigger TransAM 26er frame last season when mine ended up with a cracked seat tube, especially since his pricing was great, but I started stockpiling 29er parts before any crack even developed. I should have started with a 29er from the get-go.

    In all honesty, I wouldn't really change a thing from my Kona Honzo's geometry (and frame design as well) if I was going custom today. If I was really nit picking, maybe more rear chainstay clearance for something fatter than a 2.25 Ardent, although people are running them with 2.4 or even Hans Dampf, but limited clearance. But that's the price you pay for having the shortest CS of any production All-Mountain hardtail frame. And super stoked about it not being able to run a front derailleur as well, it has made me a much stronger rider, where in the TransAM, I was more of a spinner all day long.

    If anything happened to my Honzo, I would without a doubt purchase another 2013 XL frameset. It's such a great bike and value IMO, and looks great as well. Decent paint job (better than my Transition or On-One) and decent welds as well. What more could you ask for?

    And they hit it out of the ballpark with the geometry, who knew I would be so comfortable on a 26" ETT and 50mm stem, 66.5ish HA, 74.5 SA. It may sound long and big (what I thought as well when I was building it), but the first ride for me, there's no going back to anything smaller (or similar to my previous 26er geometries). Even with these numbers, it's still an aggresive up right position you'd expect from an All-Mountain frame, and not super stretched XC position. What I love most about the 29er is being able to pick much more aggressive lines, drop my Reverb, and just sail through gnarly sections whereas before the TransAM would get caught up on bigger logs, roots, rocks etc. Another attribute I love now is being able to ride much steeper stuff and jumps without ever having the feeling of OTB and eating sh!t (no matter what stem length I had on the TransAM, this was a constant feeling I had before with it).

    Quote Originally Posted by DimitrisCSD View Post
    it's terrifying how much similar to a Sovereign that 2souls is...
    Similar to the Transition TransAM as well. Only thing, 2Souls doesn't use gussets on the top tube or down tube, they use super fancy tubing eliminating them completely.

    I'm still lusting after their 29er 2Souls QH frame, but at three times the cost of a Honzo frame, with almost the exact same geometry, I'm just not there yet financially.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    I think I have it right.


    6'4" actually.

    This is what I felt like on my previous bikes:
    Dude it's not the bike, it's those clothes and shoes that are killing you.

    As for a production 650B, Chromag is making a Samurai 650B and so is 2Souls Cycles, the 650Bee Studie.
    Cool, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    Similar to the Transition TransAM as well. Only thing, 2Souls doesn't use gussets on the top tube or down tube, they use super fancy tubing eliminating them completely.

    I'm still lusting after their 29er 2Souls QH frame, but at three times the cost of a Honzo frame, with almost the exact same geometry, I'm just not there yet financially.
    The TransAm doesn't have adjustable dropouts though

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    Is anyone even making a production all mountain 650b specific frame yet? [/QUOTE]

    Scott has a Genius 700 series out this year. I have heard that they are wicked fast!

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    Just picking on you here but...........................

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    Chain Stay Length- 16.3"

    .05" matters, ask my ex girlfriend haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad news View Post
    Dude it's not the bike, it's those clothes and shoes that are killing you.
    You know how grippy those shoes are?!?!!?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    Just picking on you here but...........................

    Canfield Nimple nine
    Chain Stay Length – 16.25-16.9″

    Kona Honzo
    Chain Stay Length- 16.3"

    .05" matters, ask my ex girlfriend haha
    Duly noted, BUT I never cross shopped with the Nimble9. While the geometry may be there, it lacks other important AM features I was looking for, most importantly a 44mm headtube and dropper post friendly sized seat tube, its 27.2mm size is limited to what, only one dropper post?
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    Both my all mountain hardtails are 26"

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post

    As for a production 650B, Chromag is making a Samurai 650B and so is 2Souls Cycles, the 650Bee Studie.


    Damn, those are both nice...

    I have spent time on all three sizes and prefer 650b.
    That said, I just got done having a blast on my 26" Chameleon.

    There is no wrong answer. Hell, I've run 650b front and 26" rear, as well as 29 front and 650b rear. I used to ride moto enduros, so it seems perfectly natural to me.

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    26" on my trail bike but open minded enough to want to test ride a 650b.
    29" wheels are not for me at 5'10".

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    I have a new lyrik that came off my enduro and I've been thinking about building up a light am ht I can use in xc races too. It fits a 650b front wheel but I think a 29er will be the better racer. Are there any 650b frames out there that are 66-67 degree hta? Maybe I should stick to the 26" hoops. Soon theyre going to be the next cool thing!!!!!

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    On one 456C 650b here.

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    I'm sticking with 26".

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    If I was going to pick up a hardtail for trail-riding I'd also look at the Jamis Dragon 650b. Reynolds 853 steel is pretty dope with a 5" fork and slack head angle. It's got a decent spec as well:


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    ^ All-Mountain that is not. The stem's longer than the fork's travel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beebee5 View Post
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    Cheers, they look really cool

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    Ride what gives you the biggest grin...

    Tallboy LTc now, Nomad before.

    5'5" on clown wheels but I'll let the bike do the talking.

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    I'm thinking about picking up a Honzo this winter, still debating on whether to build one up or go with stock for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdjohnson121 View Post
    I'm thinking about picking up a Honzo this winter, still debating on whether to build one up or go with stock for now.
    build one up! It's more fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    ^ All-Mountain that is not. The stem's longer than the fork's travel.
    Forgive me. I forgot that not everyone has the slightest mechanical intuition that's required to remove a stock stem and replace it with something more appropriate for the intended use.

    And, for what it's worth, the stem is not longer than the travel of the fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdjohnson121 View Post
    I'm thinking about picking up a Honzo this winter, still debating on whether to build one up or go with stock for now.
    The 2013 complete spec is definitely an improvement over 2012 and you'd be hard to build it cheaper. BUT as mentioned, definitely build it from the frame up, way more fun and you get exactly what you want.
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    still have plenty of tread on my 26's

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    ^ All-Mountain that is not. The stem's longer than the fork's travel.
    Hmmm, geo is roughly the same as the Honzo that you've promoted so much. Stems are replaceable.

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