I can get both for a great deal, but can't decide on which. the kona four is $100 less than the king, but the king has better componets (especially the fork). I am focusing on getting the best frame, not as concerned with the componets since I will eventually upgrade them anyway. Is there anyone out there experienced with both that can input on the riding feel of these frames. The frame angles/sizes are very similar, so maybe it just comes down to weight. Does anyone know the frame weight of both? I think the king is around 5.6 lbs, but not sure. I would imagine the four should be slightly lighter. Thanks for any input.