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    Smile $3000 budget! Help me out!

    Hey all,

    I currently have the 2009 GT carbon zaskar. Love the hardtail but looking for a bit more. I don't know much of the full suspension bikes so I need some major help! I'm looking for a bike that can both climb and go downhill well. Just an all-around bike!

    I've only checked out 2011 GT force 1.0

    Any advice or recommendations please gimme a shout!

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    are you looking for a trail bike or something more burly that will take some drops and jumps?

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    I recommend you ride lots of bikes and find out what you want before you drop that kind of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fotu
    I recommend you ride lots of bikes and find out what you want before you drop that kind of money.
    Yes, but I kinda need to know WHICH ONES to ride first... hahaha



    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul
    are you looking for a trail bike or something more burly that will take some drops and jumps?
    YES! Right on

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    http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes...emedy/remedy8/

    that would be my choice for an all around bike that still climbs and goes down the other side
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    Most everyone will recomend what they ride or plan on riding.
    That being said, I recomend a Specialized Enduro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highwaystreets
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    Quote Originally Posted by Highwaystreets
    http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes...emedy/remedy8/

    that would be my choice for an all around bike that still climbs and goes down the other side
    Mmmmmm, that's a sweet looking bike! Thanks! I'm gonna write down all these choices and ride them all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnum703
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    accidentally posted twice... my suggestion is my first post
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    Quote Originally Posted by magnum703
    Mmmmmm, that's a sweet looking bike! Thanks! I'm gonna write down all these choices and ride them all!
    believe me it looks ALOT better in person... its a fantastic looking bike, haven't ridden a 2011 but i did the 2010 and they ride very nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magnum703
    Mmmmmm, that's a sweet looking bike! Thanks! I'm gonna write down all these choices and ride them all!

    You just said the best thing. Go to all your local shops and test ride as many as possible. If they have demo bikes get one and take it to your favorite trail.

    Also honestly answer a couple questions.
    1- What kind of trails do I normally ride on? Smooth and buff or rough and technical

    2- What kind of riding do I like the best? Are you a racer or do you like to jump off of everything you see.

    For $3000 you should be able to get a really nice bike. If you like to do your own wrenching you may want to look into buying everything separately and building it yourself. There is a great reward to putting your new baby together by yourself and taking it out for the first ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highwaystreets
    believe me it looks ALOT better in person... its a fantastic looking bike, haven't ridden a 2011 but i did the 2010 and they ride very nice.
    Hey have you checked out and ride this one?

    http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes...el_ex/fuelex9/

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    Thanks for your input!

    1 - I ride basically on everything lol. Smooth, rough, not too technical, ups and downs, small to medium jumps here and there.

    2 - Not much of a racer. Just love to enjoy the sport. You know... being in the woods, ripping up the trails after work!

    I don't think it's a good idea for me to put together my bike. I do small maintaince here and there but I don't have the confidence to do it myself! Especially on a 3k bike!

    Quote Originally Posted by denjen
    You just said the best thing. Go to all your local shops and test ride as many as possible. If they have demo bikes get one and take it to your favorite trail.

    Also honestly answer a couple questions.
    1- What kind of trails do I normally ride on? Smooth and buff or rough and technical

    2- What kind of riding do I like the best? Are you a racer or do you like to jump off of everything you see.

    For $3000 you should be able to get a really nice bike. If you like to do your own wrenching you may want to look into buying everything separately and building it yourself. There is a great reward to putting your new baby together by yourself and taking it out for the first ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnum703
    Hey have you checked out and ride this one?

    http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes...el_ex/fuelex9/
    not that year, i do own a EX8 tho... very nice bikes but they are a hair away from an "AM" bike... slightly less suspension travel and not as burly as the Remedy. So depending on your riding style it could work really well for you.

    With the Remedy and the TALAS fork i think you have a ton of flexibility in the bike and the application
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    Has anybody checked out the new 2011 GT?

    http://www.gtbicycles.com/bikes/moun...-0-matte-black

    GT "claims" their I-drive is really really good. Anyone backing that up here?

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    Sounds like you'd be suited better to a "trail bike" than an "all mountain" although those distinctions are pretty vague and overlapping if they can be understood at all. You said it basically, you want something that doesn't feel like a sled uphill, descends with stability and comfort, and takes small and medium drops with ease. I'm was in the same spot and picked up my Cannondale, but my budget was half of yours. Look/call around for closeout models, you might be able to find a 2010 $4k bike for $3k.

    If I had $3k to spend, I'd definitely be looking at bikes with around 5" of travel with not too slack of a head tube angle. For $3k you should be able to find something with XT/X9 components in the 27-28# range. I'd take a look at:

    1. Trek Fuel EX8/9
    2. Santa Cruz Blur LT
    3. Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Elite
    4. Santa Cruz Nickel
    5. Cannondale RZ120 One
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    THANK YOU!!!

    Hey do you know anything about GT bikes? I have a hardtail which is amazing, dunno about their i-drive full suspension... thanks again

    Quote Originally Posted by TwoHeadsBrewing
    Sounds like you'd be suited better to a "trail bike" than an "all mountain" although those distinctions are pretty vague and overlapping if they can be understood at all. You said it basically, you want something that doesn't feel like a sled uphill, descends with stability and comfort, and takes small and medium drops with ease. I'm was in the same spot and picked up my Cannondale, but my budget was half of yours. Look/call around for closeout models, you might be able to find a 2010 $4k bike for $3k.

    If I had $3k to spend, I'd definitely be looking at bikes with around 5" of travel with not too slack of a head tube angle. For $3k you should be able to find something with XT/X9 components in the 27-28# range. I'd take a look at:

    1. Trek Fuel EX8/9
    2. Santa Cruz Blur LT
    3. Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Elite
    4. Santa Cruz Nickel
    5. Cannondale RZ120 One

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnum703
    THANK YOU!!!

    Hey do you know anything about GT bikes? I have a hardtail which is amazing, dunno about their i-drive full suspension... thanks again
    I ride weekly with 3 guys on GT Force Carbons and they love them. One of the guys also has a Remedy 9, but he rides the GT more often as it's a better climber. Very nice looking bikes too, and from their reports the iDrive thing works as advertised. Good pedaling efficiency uphill and very plush on the downhills and hits. Definitely ride one if you've got the chance.

    The bike is important, but don't forget about the shop. You can end up with a great bike and really poor service, and have to talk to people you don't like every time you need work done on your bike. If the decision is close between bikes, go with the bike from the shop with people you get along with and know their stuff. Good luck!

    EDIT: I think all of them are on either 2009 or 2010 GT Force Carbon Experts
    Pretty sick deal for a full carbon frame, full XT group, and Fox TALAS 110-150mm for $3k.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magnum703
    GT "claims" their I-drive is really really good. Anyone backing that up here?
    I've got I-drive on the 2010 GT Sanction 1.0 which came with the Talas 36 RC2 FIT fork (love that fork), DHX 5.0 Air shock (just so-so), and Hammerschmidt (really like that - very smooth). Blinged it up with some CK hubs and DT Swiss FR600 rims.

    The Sanction 1 at 34 pounds is a little more burly then either the Remedy or the Force (I'd consider it probably at the extreme burly end of AM) but still climbs decent and can really bomb the descents. Anyway, I really think you're on the right track with the type of rigs you're looking at as possible fun do-it-all bikes. Good luck!

    As for the I-drive I really like it . . .

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    Guys, thank you so much for all your input!
    I'm leaning more towards the GT because I have the 2009 GT carbon zaskar and it is an amazing hardtail. This is so hard! ha ha ha The trek looks amazing too! errrrrrr.....

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    Before looking at the GT force, I was looking at the new 2011 GT Sanction 1.0. It looks like a beast! Very expensive tho. $5000+

    Quote Originally Posted by roxnroots
    I've got I-drive on the 2010 GT Sanction 1.0 which came with the Talas 36 RC2 FIT fork (love that fork), DHX 5.0 Air shock (just so-so), and Hammerschmidt (really like that - very smooth). Blinged it up with some CK hubs and DT Swiss FR600 rims.

    The Sanction 1 at 34 pounds is a little more burly then either the Remedy or the Force (I'd consider it probably at the extreme burly end of AM) but still climbs decent and can really bomb the descents. Anyway, I really think you're on the right track with the type of rigs you're looking at as possible fun do-it-all bikes. Good luck!

    As for the I-drive I really like it . . .

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    I just recently purchased a '10 Trek Remedy 8 and I absolutely love it. For my size and riding style it climbs better that anything else I rode and feels extremely light at 30lbs for a 6" travel bike. I have done everything from short to 6hrs rides on it and never have come back with the kind of fatigue I used to deal with on my old bike.

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    I would second the diamonback mission. I spent a day on one that a friend of mine has and now I plan on getting one. Great bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhale
    I just recently purchased a '10 Trek Remedy 8 and I absolutely love it. For my size and riding style it climbs better that anything else I rode and feels extremely light at 30lbs for a 6" travel bike. I have done everything from short to 6hrs rides on it and never have come back with the kind of fatigue I used to deal with on my old bike.
    Alright, 2 on Remedy 8 now!

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    Spesh Enduro (Comp in your budget) is also a very viable option. I picked my 2011 for under $3000 out of the door.

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    I've got an 2011 remedy 8. love it. On my second remedy, had the 2009 remedy 9. Had an I drive bike in 2006/2007. i drive works, remedys great too. can't go wrong.

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    Ok I guess all of them are just great bikes.... ha ha o crap so hard to choose...

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    Just another thought, I bet you can get a slightly used killer bike for that kind of money. I know you are hesitant to build your own, but believe me, it's rather simple with you tube and all the info on the net. good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnum703
    Ok I guess all of them are just great bikes.... ha ha o crap so hard to choose...
    You no choose now! you RIDE now!

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    I'm surprised to see only one mention of the Santa Cruz Blur LT2.

    5" travel bike with a proven suspension design and relaxed geometry that climbs as effectively as it goes down. I'd definitely put that on my "short list" of bikes to demo, no doubt.

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    Another recommendation for the Blur LT. It's a hard bike to beat if your looking for a do everything bike. Course it is what I ride so I'm a little biased.

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    Problem is many bikes are just unavailable to demo. Foes, Turner and Intense to name a few....so just saying go ride them isn't always just that easy. I agree w/ the concept but everyone always recommends the big boys...guess all the advertisement pays off eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-FXR
    I agree w/ the concept but everyone always recommends the big boys...guess all the advertisement pays off eh?
    Or we like the bike(s) that they make. A company doesn't get big without reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedoflife
    Or we like the bike(s) that they make. A company doesn't get big without reason.
    Other makers make good bikes as well. But the smaller bike companies don't mass produce and force bike shops to buy all these floor models. Marketing and advertisements are what made these companies big not just the bikes that make them big... I personally would rather deal w/ a company that I can talk to and finds a way to be competitive w/o being the huge conglomerate. Now where is that Cool Aid.....
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    All true, but if you are buying an intense, you aren't on here going "Please tell me what bike I want!" You already kinda know...

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    That picture of the trek. Is that a photograph, or some kind of CAD rendering?

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnum703
    Before looking at the GT force, I was looking at the new 2011 GT Sanction 1.0. It looks like a beast! Very expensive tho. $5000+
    Not necessarily that expensive if you were to wait until late this summer/early fall. I waited until the end-of-year clearance at Performance late last summer and timed to buy mine when they were opening a new store in my area with additional opening-day discounts then threw the whole thing on my money-back CC which I pay the balance in full every month.

    Rig out the door with tax was $2500. Even with all the upgrades and extra bling like Straitline pedals, etc. I'm still under $4K total on it. I'm guessing that increased materials cost are driving prices up because the 2010 Sanction 1 was retailing at $4200 at Performance last spring.

    You're right, the Sanction 1 is a beast (maybe more than what you need where you ride) but its still fun in a variety of terrain and trail surface. I ride in Pennsylvania with a lot of rocky ground so the 6.5" suspension's great for that. As for the 2011 a few components look better then 2010's stock but others less. The 2010 came in black which I love - 2011 not so much.
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    +1 for the Sanction. I've got a 1.0 2010 model but with rockshox domains (so lets call it a 1.5 ) and I love it!

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    This GT may be more suitable for your terrain. 2010 models may be available for around 2400.00. I demo'ed the 2010 model and it was a very nice bike.

    I have either ridden or owned many of the other bikes that others are recommending, and to tell the truth, they're all pretty much great bikes. I don't think you can go wrong with any of them. Although I'd stay away from anything with more than 6" of travel.

    http://www.gtbicycles.com/bikes/moun...0-gloss-silver

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnum703
    Thanks for your input!

    1 - I ride basically on everything lol. Smooth, rough, not too technical, ups and downs, small to medium jumps here and there.

    2 - Not much of a racer. Just love to enjoy the sport. You know... being in the woods, ripping up the trails after work!

    I don't think it's a good idea for me to put together my bike. I do small maintaince here and there but I don't have the confidence to do it myself! Especially on a 3k bike!
    For your riding, I think a Trek Fuel EX 8/9 is perfect. It's like an AM bike with the DCRV shock in the back and plenty of travel in the front for most thing thrown at it.

    My mtb riding is similar to yours (I'm mostly a roadie) and got a 2011 EX 8 this winter. It's a blast to ride and chose it over a top of the line Cannondale even though it would cost about the same (military price deal).

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    i just picked up a Stumpy FSR Elite so I'd recommend that. Climbs really well with the Brain shock and i really like the 2x10 drivetrain. I got the XL which is a hair over 29lbs (on a bathroom scale) but it comes with the tubeless kit which can drop it to the mid 28s

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    Plus however many on the sanction and idrive. Very fun bike that pedaled well and i didnt have to flip a switch on the shock to get it to climb like trek and my spec enduro. I like the geo of my enduro but the bucking on square hits and pedal feedback on climbs annoys me. My buddy has a force and loves it as well. They are sweet bikes thats for sure.

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    it seems to me you be better off sick in the 5-5.5'' class aka: sc blt2, sc nickle, giant trance x, jamis xct, yeti 575.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X-FXR
    Problem is many bikes are just unavailable to demo. Foes, Turner and Intense to name a few....so just saying go ride them
    isn't always just that easy. I agree w/ the concept but everyone always recommends the big boys...guess all the advertisement pays off eh?
    The OP might be able to find a few less readily available rides to try out if he posts a message in his home turf MTBR forum (or local bike club).

    I recommend getting a used $4-6k bike for $2500 or so as opposed to paying full price for a brand new mass marketed rig. I bought a used '09 Turner Sultan
    that had the component mix I was looking for (and would never pay for new at retail prices) and it has been totally awesome.

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    If you like the Trek EX9 then be sure to compare it with the Fezzari Nebo Peak http://www.fezzari.com/full-suspensi...FcPt7QodaxnLQg

    I think you get more for your money with the Nebo unless you can find a EX9 in last year's model for a discount at a bike shop. They are both great bikes. Fezzari will custom fit you to the bike based on your measurements. Mine was spot on when I got it. A much better fit than the previous bike that I purchased from a LBS.

    Also, consider getting an adjustable seat post with your bike. If you are spending that kind of money then a $300 seat post is a GREAT addition. I use the KS 900 but I think there's another one that might be as good or better out now.

    Let us know what you end up getting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tshulthise
    If you like the Trek EX9 then be sure to compare it with the Fezzari Nebo Peak http://www.fezzari.com/full-suspensi...FcPt7QodaxnLQg

    I think you get more for your money with the Nebo unless you can find a EX9 in last year's model for a discount at a bike shop. They are both great bikes. Fezzari will custom fit you to the bike based on your measurements. Mine was spot on when I got it. A much better fit than the previous bike that I purchased from a LBS.

    Also, consider getting an adjustable seat post with your bike. If you are spending that kind of money then a $300 seat post is a GREAT addition. I use the KS 900 but I think there's another one that might be as good or better out now.

    Let us know what you end up getting.

    I second the Fezzari Nebo. I just ordered a 2010 Nebo for myself and a 2010 cascade for my buddy. Customer service was the best I have had with ANY company, bike related or not. To all of the people that only have negative comments to say about Fezzari, just keep hating the fact that you will have to spend nearly twice what I paid for my Nebo to get comparable components from another company.
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    Man that thing looks sweet I would give that a try I never heard of a Fezzari Nebo how are they?

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    I was just looking at the specs on the Fezzari Nebo and its alot of bike for the price. Everything on the bike is good were as some of the others have some cheaper parts on them for example the trek has a deore crank and the Fezzari Nebo has xo. That Fezzari Nebo has the best parts get that.

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    I ordered my bike today so i dont know yet. I havent heard a single thing bad about them from people that actually own them. My buddy is a frame builder/welder for Intense and he has seen and ridden a Fezzari and says they are excellent bikes so I went for it. I was going to buy one regardeless of what he said anyway because I can buy another frame if I didnt like the Nebo, swap components to a new frame, and still come out way cheaper than buying a comparable big brand bike. Trust me, I'll be posting videos on youtube of my bike on trails and posting reviews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocwhiteboyoc
    I ordered my bike today so i dont know yet. I havent heard a single thing bad about them from people that actually own them. My buddy is a frame builder/welder for Intense and he has seen and ridden a Fezzari and says they are excellent bikes so I went for it. I was going to buy one regardeless of what he said anyway because I can buy another frame if I didnt like the Nebo, swap components to a new frame, and still come out way cheaper than buying a comparable big brand bike. Trust me, I'll be posting videos on youtube of my bike on trails and posting reviews.
    Yeah I was thinking that good buy

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    Quote Originally Posted by tshulthise
    If you like the Trek EX9 then be sure to compare it with the Fezzari Nebo Peak http://www.fezzari.com/full-suspensi...FcPt7QodaxnLQg

    I think you get more for your money with the Nebo unless you can find a EX9 in last year's model for a discount at a bike shop. They are both great bikes. Fezzari will custom fit you to the bike based on your measurements. Mine was spot on when I got it. A much better fit than the previous bike that I purchased from a LBS.

    Also, consider getting an adjustable seat post with your bike. If you are spending that kind of money then a $300 seat post is a GREAT addition. I use the KS 900 but I think there's another one that might be as good or better out now.

    Let us know what you end up getting.
    Wow!!! Thank you for letting me know about fezzari. Do you know if they ship to toronto canada? haha

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    I've looked up Fezzari here and some people are saying that they have bad frames and good parts

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    The list of good bikes goes on & on.

    http://www.giantnerd.com/2009-gt-for...s-country.html

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    I hope all these sites can ship to Canada

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnum703
    I've looked up Fezzari here and some people are saying that they have bad frames and good parts
    Just find people who have them and ask them what they think. The others are just super pissed that they spent double the price for a big brand bike with comparable components..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocwhiteboyoc
    Just find people who have them and ask them what they think. The others are just super pissed that they spent double the price for a big brand bike with comparable components..
    How's the Pedal Feedback and Pedal Bob on the Fezzari?

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnum703
    How's the Pedal Feedback and Pedal Bob on the Fezzari?
    My friend has one and its a great bike dont know what people are talking about
    The bike has good feedback and not alot of pedal bob I would get one if I were in the market for another bike.

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    I just saw this review

    I have the 2010 Fezzari Nebo Peak and I love it. It was a little tough for me to buy one of their bikes too since they are so new, but they have a 30 day money back gurentee so I figured I had nothing to lose, plus it's about $1400 less than a comparable bike, as far as spec goes, from other companies. As I was looking into the bike a little more and playing around on their website, I noticed things like hydroformed tubing, sealed bearings on the pivots, and lifetime warranty on the frame too. This attention to detail, in my opinion, is on par with any of the big names out there. These things just reassured me I was getting a quality bike. I also like the look of the raw aluminum on the Nebo that they have just clear coated, gives the bike a unique look. This thing climbs like no other bike I have been on before and can descend down anything i've thrown at it. I've beat my Nebo down Porcupine rim in Moab, Gooseberry Mesa, and many other trails over the last 3 months and it just keeps ticking. The company is great to work with too. When you call them you actually get to talk to a person and not an automated machine. I upgraded the wheels on my bike to the Mavic Crossmax ST. Fezzari gave me a great price on the wheels too. They can do all the upgrades you want to a bike in house. They have been great to work with and I highly recommend the Nebo Peak to anyone who is looking for an extremely high quality bike that will last for many years to come.

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    Look at the santa cruz it looks good as well

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    Yeti 575?

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnum703
    I hope all these sites can ship to Canada
    Or you could buy from a Canadian company. Some are more expensive than others, but your fellow countrymen make some pretty kick ass bikes.

    I'd say check out the Banshee Spitfire or Banshee Rune- both bikes are held in very high esteem and have similar price points compared to Trek, Specialized or Santa Cruz.

    You could also check out
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    For 3000 dollars you could look for months just start test riding find one and buy it lol.

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    Late in seeing this thread, but being from Canada, you owe it to yourself to check out the Knolly Endorphin. Might max out the budget depending on the components, but it is a GREAT bike.

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    My current AM ride was assembled from individual parts on a ~$2500 budget, with hunting for good deals involved. But it is done the way I like it, and it was fun to make.

    If you want to get a complete, could be wise to wait around for closeouts on competitivecyclist, speedgoat, jensonusa and the likes. They periodically have very very nice deals when somebody decides to blow out their inventory.

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    I think I've set my eyes on this one...
    http://www.fezzari.com/full-suspensi...tain/nebo-peak

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    that bike is sweet all the best parts

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpeters
    that bike is sweet all the best parts
    That's what I think too. Anybody don't think so?

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    Yes, all high end parts. You going to get a Lycra skin suit to go with it? LOL! Just kidding. It just looks a bit on the fem side to me. But WTF do I know? A few rides through the mud and a tumble or two down the mountain and it's good to go.

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    I did a lot of research in the fall looking for a bike to replace my broken 2002 Ellsworth Truth. I wanted a little more travel than the 4" Truth, but I didn't want to give up on the climbing. There were limited opportunities to test-drive, so I read a lot of reviews and rode what I could get my hands on (which wasn't necessarily set up for me or the right size for me, but it did help me decide more plush vs less plush, bike size, etc.). Here's what I narrowed down to:

    Ibis Mojo SL - this is what I got; "soaks up obstacles and adapts to varied terrain"; good climber (but probably not as good a climber as the Yeti ASR5); DW link suspension a plus; excellent reviews; I love this bike--it descends confidently and is a great climber ; the SLX build retails for $3300

    Yeti ASR5 - excellent reviews; great climber, but not as forgiving (i.e. requires more skill) on technical trails than other bikes I was considering

    Yeti 575 - great bike; at the high end of the amount of travel I was considering; I was concerned that it wouldn't be as good a climber as the Ellsworth

    Turner 5 Spot - great bike; very $$$; beefier and heavier than I need; DW link suspension

    Turner Flux with 120mm fork - my second choice; great bike; very $$$; DW link suspension; decided to go for more travel; my husband just got one and we just put a 120mm fork on it-- I can't wait to try it; I'm sure I'll love it

    Specialized FSR (Elite has no brain; Expert has a brain) - very nice bike, but I decided that I wanted a DW link bike; I have mixed feelings about the brain

    Giant Trance (or Reign) - these bikes didn't hit my radar screen when I was looking, but knowing how much I love the Ibis and its DW link, these are worth considering as the suspension design is similar to the Ibis and you can get a nice build for $2800; would definitely consider one of these if I wanted to save a little $$ over the Ibis or if I was concerned about riding a carbon-frame bike

    Ellsworth Epiphany - excellent reviews; very nice bike; very $$; decided I wanted a DW link bike

    There are lots of other great choices out there as well--these are just bikes that have caught my eye.

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    Make sure you check out the Kona Tanuki. These guys have been making Mtn. Bikes for 20 years...they know their stuff!

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    Hey Magnum,

    You seem like you were on the fence about the Fezzari's like me.

    I purchased a Cascade Peak 2011 last week. I also upgraded to Mavic Crosstrails to get a lighter set of tubeless wheels.

    I took my first real ride yesterday down Mt. Lemmon here in Tucson.

    I'm very happy with the bike. It has way more ability than I have skill.

    I have been looking for a longer travel XC bike since I went to Outerbike last year. I LOVED the Santa Cruz Blur LT, but I didn't think it climbed all that great. I rode several other models, but had pretty much narrowed it down to the Trek Fuel EX8 (mainly because of the price compared to all of the other all mountain type bikes out there). I was able to ride the EX8 down Porcupine Rim at Outerbike, and although it's a great ride, it didn't convince me. So, I took another demo ride in Phoenix...same thing...not convinced.

    Considering the Fezz's have a 30 Day Money Back Guarantee, I figured why not go ahead and get it...and if I don't like it...return it.

    So, now that I have it, I think it's a very well performing bike.

    It climbed very well and descended great. It also seemed very light. I've tried to weigh it and it said 26.x lbs, but that can't be right, but it's lighter than my Trek Fuel 90 for sure (which is only a 3 inch travel bike with SID fork, carbon handlebars and Sram X-9 drivetrain).

    It bobs some, but no more than my Fuel or any other bike I've ridden (Santa Cruz, Trek, etc).

    In all, I'm very pleased and don't think I'll be using that return policy.
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    Here's a built up banshee rune on ebay:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Banshee-Rune-mou...#ht_500wt_1156

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    Quote Originally Posted by will-lee wonka
    Hey Magnum,

    You seem like you were on the fence about the Fezzari's like me.

    I purchased a Cascade Peak 2011 last week. I also upgraded to Mavic Crosstrails to get a lighter set of tubeless wheels.

    I took my first real ride yesterday down Mt. Lemmon here in Tucson.

    I'm very happy with the bike. It has way more ability than I have skill.

    I have been looking for a longer travel XC bike since I went to Outerbike last year. I LOVED the Santa Cruz Blur LT, but I didn't think it climbed all that great. I rode several other models, but had pretty much narrowed it down to the Trek Fuel EX8 (mainly because of the price compared to all of the other all mountain type bikes out there). I was able to ride the EX8 down Porcupine Rim at Outerbike, and although it's a great ride, it didn't convince me. So, I took another demo ride in Phoenix...same thing...not convinced.

    Considering the Fezz's have a 30 Day Money Back Guarantee, I figured why not go ahead and get it...and if I don't like it...return it.

    So, now that I have it, I think it's a very well performing bike.

    It climbed very well and descended great. It also seemed very light. I've tried to weigh it and it said 26.x lbs, but that can't be right, but it's lighter than my Trek Fuel 90 for sure (which is only a 3 inch travel bike with SID fork, carbon handlebars and Sram X-9 drivetrain).

    It bobs some, but no more than my Fuel or any other bike I've ridden (Santa Cruz, Trek, etc).

    In all, I'm very pleased and don't think I'll be using that return policy.

    Hey thanks for the input. It seems that almost every fezzari rider is telling me that it IS a really good bike! I'm being more and more convinced that the Fezzari Nebo Peak is the correct choice to go with

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    Quote Originally Posted by magnum703
    Hey thanks for the input. It seems that almost every fezzari rider is telling me that it IS a really good bike! I'm being more and more convinced that the Fezzari Nebo Peak is the correct choice to go with
    Just wanted to give you an update. I ordered the two fezzarri's on Thursday Feb 24 and they were both at my door Wednesday the 2nd. Both bikes were set up perfectly for the measurements I gave them. I haven't had a chance to mount any cameras and shoot footage cause all of my free time has been spent riding. Lol. I couldn't be more happy. If anyone is thinking about getting a fezzarri but is on the fence about it, don't think twice and buy one. I bought the rockshox remote seat post with the bike, its sweet. I recommend picking it up with the bike. They charged me 230 for the upgrade and $30 to put a 185mm disc up front instead of the 160mm. I'm 280 lbs so I wanted a bit more up front. anyways, there's an update for you. buy one.

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    For around $3000 I'd recommend the Specialized Enduro Comp.

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    Go for a slightly used Enduro Expert.
    There's a couple of them on Pink Bike right now for under 3K.

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    If it were me I would get a Yeti 575. You can get a decent build under 3k. The original all mountain bike. I tested one, and this is by far my favorite bike. Im saving my pennies.
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    i did the build it yourself route. not easy unless you know exactly what your doing. i don't recommend it for your first bike.

    3k i would go the trek 8 or a giant reign 1.

    pick up a 2010 model now. ive seen giant reign 1 for 2100

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocwhiteboyoc
    Just wanted to give you an update. I ordered the two fezzarri's on Thursday Feb 24 and they were both at my door Wednesday the 2nd. Both bikes were set up perfectly for the measurements I gave them. I haven't had a chance to mount any cameras and shoot footage cause all of my free time has been spent riding. Lol. I couldn't be more happy. If anyone is thinking about getting a fezzarri but is on the fence about it, don't think twice and buy one. I bought the rockshox remote seat post with the bike, its sweet. I recommend picking it up with the bike. They charged me 230 for the upgrade and $30 to put a 185mm disc up front instead of the 160mm. I'm 280 lbs so I wanted a bit more up front. anyways, there's an update for you. buy one.

    Right on, got any pics or ride report?
    "Got everything you need?"

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    If I were to spend 3k, I would hope the bike had a little more cache than a specialized. meh.

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    +1 on the Yeti 575

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    did you ever decide on a bike or were you just wondering?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocwhiteboyoc
    Just wanted to give you an update. I ordered the two fezzarri's on Thursday Feb 24 and they were both at my door Wednesday the 2nd. Both bikes were set up perfectly for the measurements I gave them. I haven't had a chance to mount any cameras and shoot footage cause all of my free time has been spent riding. Lol. I couldn't be more happy. If anyone is thinking about getting a fezzarri but is on the fence about it, don't think twice and buy one. I bought the rockshox remote seat post with the bike, its sweet. I recommend picking it up with the bike. They charged me 230 for the upgrade and $30 to put a 185mm disc up front instead of the 160mm. I'm 280 lbs so I wanted a bit more up front. anyways, there's an update for you. buy one.
    I had a Trek fuel 8 that I paid 2200 for last year, and I've had my 2010 Fezzari Cascade Peak for around 2 weeks now, that i paid 1800 for. Put about 60 miles on it, and I am hooked. It climbs like a mountain goat, and the pedal bob is minimal. It pedals so smooth I haven't even used the suspension lockouts. Their customer service was awesome when I was ordering, and I loved being able to call up the factory and talk to a person without having to go through a machine. These guys know their stuff and put out an awesome product. I would take it over the Trek any day.

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    Alright, I'm pretty sold on the Fezzari Peak. Thanks guys. Don't see any other bike beating it

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    Which one? They are all named after peaks ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by will-lee wonka
    Which one? They are all named after peaks ;-)
    Set on the Nebo Peak!

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    well......? did you buy one?

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    If I were you I would be more confused than ever reading this.

    I have a GT Force 3.0 and purchased it as my first full suspension. It looks like I will be upgrading to the Carbon Expert within the next month. My only complaint with my 3.0 is that it had sh#@y components You get what you pay for. No complaints on the suspension.

    Also, I will throw this in there.This is my opinion. The 69 head angle in my eyes is for someone who attacks the trail. It is a little twitcie on very slow terrain compared to my HT with less slack.

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    If you're in Canada you should at least take a peek at Opus. The Clutch 1 is attainable in the $3300 range and has a pretty bling parts spec. The Clutch 2 street price is under $3k. Not as swanky as the 1 but a pretty good spec all the same. The head angle is a degree slacker on the 1. Catalog frames but they're pretty nice. I have the predecessor to the Clutch (Maadh3). Even with a non-platform shock it pedals really well and hooks up nicely on technical climbs. The BB is lowish so despite a 69 degree HA it descends pretty well. Good bang for the buck.

    http://www.opusbike.com/en/bikes_6_18-18-clutch.html

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    I'll sell you my 09 Cdale moto4 for $2000, of course if you want to pay $3K that would be fine too.

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    Scott genius!!!!! I don't know ANY other company putting out a better spec'd bike for the money. 150mm all around, lockout from full to 95mm to 150mm front an back with the flip of a switch, full carbon main frame, fox talas fork, X9 components, xt crank, an here's the kicker..... 27lbs!!!

    http://www.scott-sports.com/us_en/pr...9/55551/217957

    By the way, since when was a trek fuel or stumpjumper in the ALL MOUNTAIN category? IMO it's a xc bike, through an through. I guess I'm kindof biased as... you get $h!t for specs with trek/specialized for the amount ofmoney you have to spend.
    Full time rider part time racer...

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    I just bought a 2011 Yeti 575 ($2800) from my LBS after a ton of research and I feel I made the right decision. Good Luck.

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