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    $2400 AM bike options

    So, ive got a budget of $2400 tops, and I am having trouble choosing a bike. The only other bike I have is a rigid SS 29er so I am looking for something to cover everything else. Mostly trails, but I like to take the rougher lines and I like hucking but never more than 4-5 feet. I am selling a HT 29er bc i want something more suited to my style. My lbs carries Scott bikes, and I do like the genius line, but I havent seen one out on the trails, and there arent many reviews. Also, another lbs has an el guapo frame and fork on sale, but my drivetrain and cockpit and wheels would be very budgeted. I am not against used bikes. I tested a blur lt and liked it alot, but i cant afford it. I am thinking around 150-160 mm travel. Any suggestions or ideas? Bikes I am also considering are the butcher but i havent heard really good stuff about the single pivot. I am also looking at trek remedy and giant reign. Any advice?
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    Quote Originally Posted by arkon11

    Very nice bike...but, I am looking for something with some squish under my butt. Preferably 150mm or more.
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    Back in Dec I picked up a 2011 Enduro Comp for ~$2400, out the door.
    The shop was doing a %15 off sale on all new bikes.

    I thought it was a great deal, so I'm not sure if any of your LBS's would give you a similar deal.

    I'd also recommend looking at the Stumpjumper lineup.

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    i've got a mate getting one of these
    http://www.canyon.com/_en/mountainbi...ke.html?b=2084
    which seem to have a pretty nice spec. Don't know anything about them though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkon11
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    You ever thought of a Felt Redemption? It has 160mm of travel front and rear, climb great and can easily attack the downhill trails. I have a Felt Redemption Team and I absolutely love it.

    Thanks to the bike equilink suspension system it remains fully active without giving you pedal bob. It makes it a very predictable bike and very comfortable to ride.

    Not sure if you do ebay but there is one on there now:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/FELT-REDEMPTION-...item1c1a68ac96

    Equilink suspension explanation and details:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ovNYybL2OE

    Honestly dude, it only took me one ride to be hooked. I used to ride a Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Elite and the Felt Redemption does everything it did but 5 times better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CraptacularOne
    You ever thought of a Felt Redemption? It has 160mm of travel front and rear, climb great and can easily attack the downhill trails. I have a Felt Redemption Team and I absolutely love it.

    Thanks to the bike equilink suspension system it remains fully active without giving you pedal bob. It makes it a very predictable bike and very comfortable to ride.

    Not sure if you do ebay but there is one on there now:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/FELT-REDEMPTION-...item1c1a68ac96

    Equilink suspension explanation and details:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ovNYybL2OE

    Honestly dude, it only took me one ride to be hooked. I used to ride a Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Elite and the Felt Redemption does everything it did but 5 times better.
    I will definitely check that out. we got a lbs that carries felt. very clever engineering too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texasnavy05
    I will definitely check that out. we got a lbs that carries felt. very clever engineering too.

    The only problem you may have with the LBS is that if they have or can get a Redemption for you as they are not made anymore. For some reason Felt decided to move away from the bigger travel bikes and concentrate on trail/XC bikes like the Virtue. Don't get me wrong the Virtue is an excellent bike and features the same equilink setup but it only has 130mm of travel. So fi you're looking for a beefier bike you're gonna have to ask if they can get any Redemptions.

    Another bike you may want to consider is the Felt Compulsion

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Felt-Compulsion-...item43a302d9ca

    It's a lighter all mountain type bike that features 150mm of travel. But unfortunately Felt decided to stop making them for the 2011 model year.

    In my opinion, the Redemption is the best all mountain bike I've ever ridden. It climbs very good, is comfortable so riding all day is no problem and it rips in the drops and jumps.

    I hear the Compulsion is excellent too from some people that have them at my local trails.

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    '09 Jamis XAM 2

    I have had many a bike and I have been pleased with this. Unless you are a total bike snob, its a great deal.

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    I have about the same budget and I've been looking at the Giant Reign 2 and Stumpjumper Comp.

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    DB mission 3

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    Might Consider the GT Force 2

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    2009 or 2010 Marin Mount Vision or Attack Trail can be had on old stock blow out from a number of retailers with some careful research. Either year and either model make a great ride and IMO better bang for the buck than pretty much anything mentioned above, with no disrespect to these otherwise fine bikes.

    The Attack Trail is more of an AM rig and has geometry making it well suited to ascending and especially descending, and at 6" of suspenion is a real nice ride that is still very capable in more XC oriented situaitons.

    I own one of each. The AT is an awesome all-arounder.

    The 2011 MV is even better but well out of the stated budget.

    May or may not work for you, but I'd suggest reading the reviews and the awards, worth a look.

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    that 2010 db mission 3 looks like a great option. at 2000 i could change out the little things that dont work (saddle, pedals, etc). Looks like a really heavy linkage system though. Also looks kinda gimmicky. thoughts?
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    looks like the mission 3 is generally liked

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    Quote Originally Posted by texasnavy05
    that 2010 db mission 3 looks like a great option. at 2000 i could change out the little things that dont work (saddle, pedals, etc). Looks like a really heavy linkage system though. Also looks kinda gimmicky. thoughts?
    The DB mission bikes are a great value. I just ordered a mission 2. I have yet to ride mine yet but it seems like a very well built bike and ive owned DBs in the past and they have never let me down. Also the knucklebox linkage system has gotten great reviews as well. For the money I honestly dont think you can beat it. Buy it through Nashbar and you can get it for even cheaper with their coupon codes.

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    I was literally was in the same boat. I have a 29er single speed and was looking for another bike for everything else. I went with a Specialized Enduro Comp. I love it! I was on a $2500 budget and went to my local Specialized store and asked if he would do $2500 OTD. got it for $2500 plus tax. Here's a pic. Good luck!
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    Yep missions are great value (hard to beat) and ride amazing. Got one last week and hit my local trails. Stuff I wouldnt normally hit on my HT I was just going for it jumping of everything and taking the most exteme lines with no problems, So much fun!! Im sure there are other bikes that would be great but man its fun!! I got the 09 mission 1, so its the bottom of the range but still sweet with fox RP2. I got it for under $1000!!! and amazing bike for the price! The 2 and 3 have great gear but were out of my price range.The frame and linkage system seem solid and work well. Propedal up and bottomless on the way down. Bit excited I know but these med travel (AM? rigs) are so much fun. Which ever bike you choose get ready for good times!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OperatorBo
    I was literally was in the same boat. I have a 29er single speed and was looking for another bike for everything else. I went with a Specialized Enduro Comp. I love it! I was on a $2500 budget and went to my local Specialized store and asked if he would do $2500 OTD. got it for $2500 plus tax. Here's a pic. Good luck!

    Thats a cool lookin bike. I love the color scheme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OperatorBo
    I was literally was in the same boat. I have a 29er single speed and was looking for another bike for everything else. I went with a Specialized Enduro Comp. I love it! I was on a $2500 budget and went to my local Specialized store and asked if he would do $2500 OTD. got it for $2500 plus tax. Here's a pic. Good luck!

    That is a sweet bike. I test rode a 2010 enduro comp and i did like it, but unfortunately they are several hundred out of my budget. I know i should just suck it up and spend the extra cash, but where do you stop? If I can drop 2700 then why not drop 3000 and get a jekyll? etc etc. Might call some other shops that carry spesh and see if they could get a hold of a 2010 old stock and get a deal.
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    I would go with the EG! Of course I am partial as I own one. Here is the truth, I hace the EG and a Mojo. The Mojo is a truly outstanding bike, however......unless there some weight weenie snobs looking to lay the wood down on me. You'll find me on my El Guapo. I bought the frame and shock for right at a grand and then spent a couple more building it, came in right at 3K. Probably could have done it for 5 or 6 less. I went with a 1.5' 36mm fork with a 20mm thru axel, a 1X9 set up. I run 203mm up fnt with a 185 in the rear. Mavic Crossmax SX with 2.3 Nevegals fox trail riding. I switch to Sun Ringle DH rims and 2.5 rubber for lift rides. This bike loves it, if I can't climb it then you can bet it is a bad butted climb. It loves the downhills, the uglier the better. Just my .02

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    i got a pitch pro last year for 1900 left over love it went up the mountains a few times last year and the bike rode great.also climb very well i do mostly cross country riding and it goes great

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    Quote Originally Posted by OperatorBo
    I was literally was in the same boat. I have a 29er single speed and was looking for another bike for everything else. I went with a Specialized Enduro Comp. I love it! I was on a $2500 budget and went to my local Specialized store and asked if he would do $2500 OTD. got it for $2500 plus tax. Here's a pic. Good luck!
    Nice work on getting 17% off sticker.
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    what about the SC Nickel here for 2600... or maybe a different nickel build

    http://www.competitivecyclist.com/featuredbikes

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    STAY AWAY FROM FELT I have a 2007 virtue 3 and yeah the equilink works great but I had to carry extra grade 8 bolts for the main bolt directly behind the BB because it would last about 5 rides before it would snap. Not only that but in order to tighten the main bolt behind the BB you had to remove the large chain ring, so I disregarded the large ring altogether because it was such a chronic issue. Eventually all the pivot point bolt holes for the rear triangle stripped out, now it sits in my back yard collecting dust. The main problem with Felt's full susp bikes that I can see is; at every pivot point with the exception of the lower BB bolt is that they they use 2 bolts coming in from either side to hold the rear triangle (or swing arm whatever you want to call it) in place on the seat down tube. To me that is just to many potential moving parts. The newer Redemptions have the same setup. That was my first full suspension bike and it was a relatively expensive learning experience. If I was to get another full susp bike I would go for a Specialized enduro I have thoroughly inspected their design and they use stout bolts that go completely through the frame to connect the rear triangle to the frame instead of using 2 at every pivot point.

    Now I ride my old DJ chase that I turned into an AM. I have fell back in love with hardtails (no pun intended ) Now I want to build a hardtail that is more suitable for all day long rides in the hills.

    By the way I'm 5' 8" 200 pounds and yeah I like to huck drops, jump, rail turns, just like you mentioned you do as well and same gos for me nothing bigger than 4-5 foot drops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcp916
    STAY AWAY FROM FELT I have a 2007 virtue 3 and yeah the equilink works great but I had to carry extra grade 8 bolts for the main bolt directly behind the BB because it would last about 5 rides before it would snap. Not only that but in order to tighten the main bolt behind the BB you had to remove the large chain ring, so I disregarded the large ring altogether because it was such a chronic issue. Eventually all the pivot point bolt holes for the rear triangle stripped out, now it sits in my back yard collecting dust. The main problem with Felt's full susp bikes that I can see is; at every pivot point with the exception of the lower BB bolt is that they they use 2 bolts coming in from either side to hold the rear triangle (or swing arm whatever you want to call it) in place on the seat down tube. To me that is just to many potential moving parts. The newer Redemptions have the same setup. That was my first full suspension bike and it was a relatively expensive learning experience. If I was to get another full susp bike I would go for a Specialized enduro I have thoroughly inspected their design and they use stout bolts that go completely through the frame to connect the rear triangle to the frame instead of using 2 at every pivot point.

    Now I ride my old DJ chase that I turned into an AM. I have fell back in love with hardtails (no pun intended ) Now I want to build a hardtail that is more suitable for all day long rides in the hills.

    By the way I'm 5' 8" 200 pounds and yeah I like to huck drops, jump, rail turns, just like you mentioned you do as well and same gos for me nothing bigger than 4-5 foot drops.
    Haven't had a single problem with my Redemption and I ride it 2-3 times a week 30 miles at a time. I've had it since 08 and it's still just as beastly as it was the 1st day I rode it. I'm 5'10" 205 myself for the record. And trust me I'm not easy on my bikes. 6-8 foot drops to flat, bombing downhill runs, jumps....ect. This bike has been pretty much bullet proof for me.

    On a side note, every bike manufacturer has some problematic bikes. It's a bit of a stretch to say that since you had an issue that the whole Felt line is faulty.

    My Redemption. I got it as a frame and built it up from there.
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    Go take a look at the Giant Reign 2 on your list. I actually just got a new 2010 for $1500 (normal sticker is $2150) because it was a leftover from last year. Fantastic bike. Climbs like a goat, active suspension while on the brakes, pedals great, an honest 30 lb 6" am bike (no pedals). I'm a 235 lb rider (with a filled camelbak) and I ride hard east coast rocky technical trails. I beat the hell out of my bikes and I love the Reign.

    Like eauxgod, I had a Jamis. Mine was originally a 2003 Jamis XLT (when they had Horst Link rear) and it was a great bike. I broke the frame in 2005 and, unfortunately, the replacement frame (great company warranty), and the current design, was a faux 4-bar. I hated the inactive rear, while braking, of the faux 4-bar. It is basically a single pivot design with the same lack of active braking.

    If your trails are not to technical, rear suspension design may not be a big deal. However, you claim you like the rougher lines and you are listing 6" AM bikes. If you want to test a bikes "active braking" there is an easy showroom test you can perform. Squeeze both brake levers as hard as you can and then push down on the seat. If the rear suspension doesn't move now, it wont in the rough while braking. I'm not pushing any particular suspension design, just as long as it's active ALL the time.

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    Ya CraptacularOne your right, but it just sucks when the first real expensive purchase you make on your first full susp bike turns out to be such a lemon. When something like that happens I usually stay away from that particular brand and never use em again tho considering your spending 1500 + dollars.

    I definitely miss full suspension tho. I remember the very first ride on her and how my mind was totally blown after that and then within the first year it just fell apart. I was mad/sad to say the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcp916
    Ya CraptacularOne your right, but it just sucks when the first real expensive purchase you make on your first full susp bike turns out to be such a lemon. When something like that happens I usually stay away from that particular brand and never use em again tho considering your spending 1500 + dollars.

    I definitely miss full suspension tho. I remember the very first ride on her and how my mind was totally blown after that and then within the first year it just fell apart. I was mad/sad to say the least.
    Totally understandable that you'd be upset about it. I'd be ticked too. Did you contact Felt about it? They warranty their frames for life. And are very good about working with their customers. A friend of mine rides a Felt '09 AR2 (road bike) and when he discovered a hairline fracture in the carbon fiber on the rear triangle, they shipped him a brand new frame which he got in about a week.

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    another LBS sells Orbea and Kona. Anybody know much about the cadabra or the rallon? Im thinking the cadabra looks good if I can pick up a 2010 model that is discounted. nothing weight weeny about it (im 250 lbs) and the suspension looks pretty ingenius. The Rallon also looks really nice, but pricier boutique bike.
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    I've ridden the Cadabra for a day, but I didn't care for it. Compared to my Rize it climbs like a pig and doesn't descend all that well. And also, it just doesn't seem like all that much bike for the money. And to top it all off, the MagicLink, while it worked seems like a lot of moving parts and points of failure. It's not that it's a bad bike, but I'd much rather go for a Giant Reign 1 or Santa Cruz Blur or Nomad.
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    What about a Pitch pro? retail is 2400. Most likely easy to pick one up for less. real sleeper bike shadowed by the enduro.

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    what size bike you looking for.My lbs has a xl 2010 specialized enduro sl comp that you could get for $2400.Let me know if you want the shop number and stuff

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    If your interested, ive got a GT Force 1.0 for sale with lots of upgrades.

    http://www.dorba.org/forum/buy-and-sell/15185

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    if you think you have any parts that can be used in the interim for a build, the El Guapo for $1200 from Titus/LBS/Biker Bob would be hard to beat.

    Actually, contact bikerbob here and tell him what you would like to see spec'd and see if he can do it. I bet he comes really close if he can't get you the build you want at $2400.

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    Giantnerd.com has some great deals on GT Force and Sanction from $1200 to $2500 for a XT spec carbon Force!

    http://www.giantnerd.com/bike/bikes/...html?brand=151

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    How come no one mentioned the Heckler? http://www.speedgoat.com/Catalog.aspx/Browse?Prod=20512

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    Quote Originally Posted by mummer43
    How come no one mentioned the Heckler? http://www.speedgoat.com/Catalog.aspx/Browse?Prod=20512
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    http://www.giantnerd.com/2010-gt-gt-...-mountain.html

    2010 GT Force Carbon Expert, $2499.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heyitsmebob
    http://www.giantnerd.com/2010-gt-gt-...-mountain.html

    2010 GT Force Carbon Expert, $2499.
    This is what I went with. Giant nerd had free shipping as well. Should arrive next week. Best deal I could find considering what you get.

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    You have to be creative an savvy but the pay off can be big,in the past six months I put together a 2010 Titus El Guapo for around 1600 with top end parts and a 2011 Ibis SL complete for around 2000 deals galore out there but ya gotta do the work!

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    Very cool looking Force, you made an excellent choice. You will be happy.

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    That sanction looked badass for 1,500.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfox90
    That sanction looked badass for 1,500.
    Yeah, it is. I have the '10 Sanction 1.0 which I got on sale last summer for $2400 (tax included) I mainly bought for the Talas RC2 FIT 36 fork and ended up loving the bike in general - wasn't used to the Hammerschmidt at first though.

    Overall, I'd say GT did a nice job with the Sanction line in the past couple of years apart from some creaking issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amp
    This is what I went with. Giant nerd had free shipping as well. Should arrive next week. Best deal I could find considering what you get.
    Yeah, you really can't beat the deals at Giantnerd. You also get a return in 'Nerd Dollars' that you can use on the site. They did a great job on mine with the pro-build too. Post up some pics when you get it together.
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    Texnav, you were wondering about Scott bikes. I just got my genius lt40 a couple of weeks ago. Seems awesome so far. Ride seems very smooth. The cockpit geo seems good for me 5'8". Bike is a medium. At 31 lbs, it seems very flickable as well. I ride with a guy who has a genius 60. He seems very happy with his also. No problems so far, so not sure about customer service. Lbs carries Scott so I'm thinking I will see more on the trail. Hope this helps.

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    Santa Cruz Butcher D AM w/RP23 upgrade $2214

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