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    $1584 heckler - too good to be true?

    i've been searching for a new mountain bike for way too long. i test rode a nomad and a blur LT at a SC demo day, and loved the nomad (wanted something just a little beefier than a blur). but i can't spend that kind of $$ on a bike. so i'm looking at everything, reading posts, buying magazines, etc.. and i'm almost ready to buy a 2005 heckler for $2300 (marked down from $2800). then i notice in mtb-action mag they have a whole article on a $1584 heckler. WTF? so, i'm sure there are some less than desirable componants, but i can't tell what's wrong with them... so i thought i'd check here. can you guys help me determine if there's a major flaw here? or did SC just put an un-beatable deal togther??? i think the key question is if the fork (fox float 130) and shock (fox float r) are decent enough. i weight in at about 225lbs.

    • X9 AM kit with Fox Float 130 RLC fork
    • Powdercoat frame
    • Fox Float R shock
    • Headset: Cane Creek S3
    • Seatpost: Thomson
    • Saddle: WTB Pure V Stealth
    • Front Derailleur: Shimano XT M760
    • Rear Derailleur: SRAM X9 medium cage
    • Shifters: SRAM X9 triggers
    • Crankset: TruVativ Stylo Team 22-32-44
    • Bottom-bracket: Giga X Drive
    • Cassette: SRAM PG980 11-34
    • Chain: SRAM PC 971
    • Brakes: Avid Juicy 7 w/ 185mm front and 160mm rear rotors
    • Brake Levers: Included
    • Bars: RaceFace Deus low riser
    • Stem: RaceFace Deus
    • Grips: Lizard Skin Lock On
    • Wheelset: Mavic XM 321 to DT 340 hubs w/ DT 14/15g spokes
    • Tires: Kenda Nevegal
    • Tubes: Kenda Freeride

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    Sounds like they quoted dealer cost. Would not be the first time MBA has screwed up and done that.
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    http://www.speedgoat.com/product.asp...=370&brand=323 has 2 different builds (with diff prices) - will call them tomorrow to get the scoop. but still interested in feedback on the builds...

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    So the price you quoted is for the much lower part spec.

    "ADD $951" the the spec you presented.

    Pick your parts and pay the price.
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    got it, thanks. i incorrectly listed an upgraded groupset... BUT... there still is a REAL $1584 heckler with lower-end components that mtb-action reviewed that i'd love to get feedback on.

    Santa Cruz Heckler Complete Bike
    • D AM kit comes with RockShox Tora 302 U-turn fork
    • Powdercoat frame
    • Fox Float R shock
    • Headset: Dia Compe
    • Seatpost: TruVativ XR double clamp
    • Saddle: WTB Pure V Comp
    • Front Derailleur: Shimano LX M580
    • Rear Derailleur: Shimano XT M751
    • Shifters: Shimano Deore M511
    • Crankset: Shimano Deore M530 22-32-44
    • Bottom-bracket: Shimano Deore ES30
    • Cassette: Shimano HG50 11-34
    • Chain: Shimano LX HG53
    • Brakes: Shimano Deore M535 w/ 180mm front and 160mm rotors
    • Brake Levers: Included
    • Bars: TruVativ XR riser
    • Stem: TruVativ XR 3D
    • Grips: Lizard Skin
    • Wheelset: Mavic XM 317 disc to Shimano Deore M535 w/ DT 154g spokes
    • Tires: Kenda Nevegal
    • Tubes: Kenda Freeride

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    I just got a Heckler with the above package except with a 2007 vanilla RLC and it came in with LX shifters (must have ran out of Deore) from my LBS for $1925.00. I absolutely love the bike and want to be on it constantly!! Get the $1584.00 package, it's the best deal out there as mountain bike action says in it's review. For that money your in one of the best trail bikes ever put into production. I don't know if you have ever riden one but everything in that review is dead on imo. When i'm not riding the bike I am gazing at it in my living room.
    My wife thinks I'm nuts, but i'm in love all over again!! Join the Heckler family.

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    Nice build as long as you get the Fox...Everything else can be upgraded/replaced as you break it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyBidnezz
    Nice build as long as you get the Fox...Everything else can be upgraded/replaced as you break it.

    Agree....that Tora is a tank.....weighs about 5 lbs. Complete bike weighs in at about 32-33 lbs. Not light.....but you can't expect that for $1600.

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    sweet deal! replace as you go, cheaper than a lot of good frames.
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    Even sweeter is the frame & shox for under $900

    If you have the other parts (I do) you can get a Heckler with a Fox air shock for around $890 in powder coat. That is a pretty nice deal for a bike that seems to get constant raves. I have not ridden the new design Heckler but have experience with the Blur and currently own a Chameleon and feel that the bikes designed by Santa Cruz ride very well.

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    just ordered it in orange powdercoat (will make me think i'm riding my ktm)... they sell it now w/ the fox vanilla instead of the tora, but the price is also $1850ish instead of $1580ish.

    i tested a rockhopper yesterday w/ the deore shifters just to see if i could live with the deore... they are fine. and i read an article... http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?...005/news/05-26 ... that says the deore was upgraded along w/ the 105s recently. have the new 105 set on my road bike (cannondale synapse), and it's actually a an awesome (strong/smooth) groupset. so if the 2 are at all similar, i should be equally happy.

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    I have Deore/LX & it works fine.

    I built up my Chameleon with low end parts and they shift as well as my XT/XTR. They may weight more but I don't "feel" a performance difference. Because of where and how I ride the Chameleon I was looking for throw away parts so I would not feel so bad when I trashed them. Except for a rear derailuer ripped off by a nasty plant, everything is still working well after 1.5 years.

    PS: Excellent color choice

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    Quote Originally Posted by hgs
    just ordered it in orange powdercoat (will make me think i'm riding my ktm)... they sell it now w/ the fox vanilla instead of the tora, but the price is also $1850ish instead of $1580ish.

    i tested a rockhopper yesterday w/ the deore shifters just to see if i could live with the deore... they are fine. and i read an article... http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?...005/news/05-26 ... that says the deore was upgraded along w/ the 105s recently. have the new 105 set on my road bike (cannondale synapse), and it's actually a an awesome (strong/smooth) groupset. so if the 2 are at all similar, i should be equally happy.
    Yeah, I wanted orange to match my KTM too. I settled for silver ano since they had it in stock with the build kit I wanted. At least it doesn't have a linkage like my KTM!

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    hgs,

    I got the same news about the vanilla when I ordered mine.I wasn't happy about paying more at the time but the 07 vanilla fork is awsome.It is easy to adjust, super plush, and looks great.My bike took about 3 weeks to come in.Great buy, your gonna love it!!

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