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    Show us ur SnoBike....photos

    Is Alaska the kingdom of the SnoBike or what?

    ...it's time to show-off your SnoBikes!


    [photos, components, describe the use]
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    AOC Wildfire Kuskokwim Kruzer

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    AOC Wildire Kuskokwim Kruzer

    Components: Wildfire, Rohloff, Surly, WTB, White, Phil, Jones, Thomson, Paul, Morningstar

    Kuskokwim River and coastal Bering Sea Cruising
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    AOC Surly Kuskokwim Kruzer

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    AOC Surly Kuskokwim River Kruzer - Team Bike (1)

    [Surly, White Industries, WTB, Phil, Paul, Jones, Thomson, Zzipp, Morningstar]

    At home on the trails on and around the Kuskokwim River and Coast, SW Alaska
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    No, that's not phonetic
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    Oh, I have one of these too...



    My video techniques can be found in this thread.

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    She's no Pugsley....

    Snowbike (Medium).jpg

    But I love her anyway.

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    The windshield is genius.

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    New question here. Oh common now.....

    ...we know there's way more SnoBikes out there...give it up...lets see!


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    Quote Originally Posted by qayaq_alaska
    ...we know there's way more SnoBikes out there...give it up...lets see!
    Alright, I'll play. Here's my progression through the last 12 years or so.

    My first snowbike, a Litespeed Hiwassee that has a ton of rear tire clearance. Actually the best I've seen for any Litespeed. Geax 2.25s fit no problem. It was their straight gauge economy model, even has riveted on cable guides, so nothing fancy, but it's been solid, just wish it was longer across the top. I sent it to Titus in Arizona a few years ago to weld on a rear triangle disc mount and they did a fantastic job.

    For the times when trails got really solid packed, and moose would gravitate to them and create endless divots, some suspension would come in handy. Enter...the Mantis Snow Floater. I also found a machinist that made rear disc mounts for these and it totally cured the main weakness of this bike. fsp of MoonHead Machine, who hangs out on the Vintage board a lot, created the mounts along with some other very unique components before his company dissolved. What a shame too, they had some great ideas.

    Feeling the need for a larger footprint on snow for added flotation, I had a 29er built. I got lucky finding some 29er SnoCats, and had a Waltworks built to my dimensions. With rear triangle clearance for the widest 29er made so far plus some fudge factor extra clearance anticipating future wider offerings, this is destined to become my main local ride.

    And....on to the grand poobah......the FatBike. The ultimate in flotation offered to accomodate mass produced components. What was once a freakshow niche is rapidly becoming the mode of choice if you want to limit walking. Equipped with some racks and a frame bag it's bound to become my winter mule to reliably access Alaska's remoteness. Here's a pic of it with a 2.5 Weirwolf tire, which is a pretty large volume tire, but pales beside an Endomorph.

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    AWD Baby!!

    Jeep Rubicon classic
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    another pugs...

    Yes, a large, in the hard-to-find purple color. Not the outstanding photograpy of Tscheesy - but a contribution to this post all the same. I'll update it next time I see daylight. 20" pugs, remo sand rims and endomorph tires. Short ride on build completion was awesome once I let enough air out of the tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesotony
    Yes, a large, in the hard-to-find purple color. Not the outstanding photograpy of Tscheesy - but a contribution to this post all the same. I'll update it next time I see daylight. 20" pugs, remo sand rims and endomorph tires. Short ride on build completion was awesome once I let enough air out of the tires.
    Lookin' smoove there, T-licious...

    Unless you're riding pavement, there isn't much point in going above ~12 psi, IMO.

    More pics please...

    MC

    P.S. y'all have got some snow, eh?

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    Snow monkey?



    In the winter I ride this bike everywhere, both for fun and for commuting to work and around town. My normal commuter only has 37mm cross tires so this bike is both until the snow melts. 75% of my preferred route to work is on trails anyways.

    It's not a real 'snow bike' but I am lucky in that Whitehorse has lots of trails that are packed enough to handle it and generally great winter riding conditions. Sometimes I ride with the wife while she skis or skijors.

    • Surly Karate Monkey frame/fork
    • Velocity Dyad/LX 29er wheels
    • 2.3 Exiwolf (R) 2.1 Ignitor (F) tires
    • 1x8 drivetrain
    • V-brakes
    • Surly bars, Thomson post, WTB saddle

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    My snow bikes

    Here's the story of my decline into the sordid sport of fat wheeled snow biking. From my earliest years I showed interest in the sport and progressed to the point I'm at now. I shudder to think what's next.
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    Nice

    That baby looks like she provides all the flotation you'll ever need. And equipped with an Endomuff too, no doubt.
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    gnarly...

    We've been b!tchin' about the horses, could you imagine the tracks that baby leaves.
    .....cheatin' life, and peelin' out on the lawn.........
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    Now THAT'S thirsty work right there.

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    Idaho FatBike

    I am new to the FatBike scene but I am lovin' it. It took a while to get here but it was worth the wait.

    Here is the the build:

    Frame & Fork: Wildfire FatBike
    Hubs: XT
    Rims: Surly Large Marge
    Tires: Surly Endomorph 3.7
    Stem & Post: Thomson
    Bottom Bracket: Phil Wood 100 X 145
    Crankset: Middleburn square taper
    Pedals: Wellgo Magnesium
    Shifters: Sram XO Twist Shisters
    Front Derailleur: Shimano E-type
    Rear Derailleur: Sram XO
    Rear Brake: Magura Louise FR
    Handlebar: Easton Monkeylite Lo Rise

    Future changes include drilling out the cable stops for full length shift housing and switching to a BB7 mechanical rear brake. Some Morningstar Soup is on the way to winterize all of the bearings as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave in Driggs
    Here is the the build:
    Bottom Bracket: Phil Wood 100 X 145
    Dave, I'm diggin' the Kermit green, that really looks sharp.

    I noticed you listed the BB as 100 x 145. Does your Wildfire have a 100mm wide BB shell? If so was that a custom request, or is that the new standard for Mark's frames?

    Much like the Vicious frames, it seems like the idea makes a ton of sense. That and going to a 150mm wide rear hub to eliminate the funky wheel dishing also seems so sane.

    Lookin' good.

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    Here ya go.

    Cheers,

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    100mm BB shell

    Quote Originally Posted by EndoRando
    Dave, I'm diggin' the Kermit green, that really looks sharp.

    I noticed you listed the BB as 100 x 145. Does your Wildfire have a 100mm wide BB shell? If so was that a custom request, or is that the new standard for Mark's frames?
    Thanks! I got lucky with the 100mm BB shell. Mark decided to change the standard after I had ordered the frame and luckily Phil Wood had some of the 100 x 145s available. I think Mark said my frame was the first one out the door with the new shell. It was really easy to set up and there are definitely more options available in 100mm than 85mm.
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    Minor changes

    Quote Originally Posted by EndoRando
    Dave, I'm diggin' the Kermit green, that really looks sharp.

    I noticed you listed the BB as 100 x 145. Does your Wildfire have a 100mm wide BB shell? If so was that a custom request, or is that the new standard for Mark's frames?

    Much like the Vicious frames, it seems like the idea makes a ton of sense. That and going to a 150mm wide rear hub to eliminate the funky wheel dishing also seems so sane.

    Lookin' good.

    Rando
    Dave, Love that "Sparkle Granny Smith" paint. Lookin' sweet.

    Rando,

    After seeing the demise of the off the shelf 73 X 127.5 XT bottom bracket and what was left of the square taper cranksets out there that worked well with the FatBike, some changes were in order. Went with the new 100mm shell to give the option of using a Phil Wood BB square taper bottom bracket like Dave's bike or 100 X 148mm ISIS and to accomodate Remolino rims (even though they aren't made anymore, people still use them) with Endomorph tires. I was trying to stay away from this as it moves the pedal width/Q factor out even wider. I like the wider width but it is an issue for some people.

    For the rear offset, I'm pretty anal about chainline issues. The FatBike was I believe the first wide tired bike built that you could actually use all of the 8 or 9 gears on the rear cassette without the chain rubbing on the tire and still use an off the shelf, lightweight 135mm rear hub. Using a 150 mm rear hub/ 0 offset, in addition to being a bit heavier, more expensive, and harder to find, still doesn't quite pencil out to that perfect chainline where the middle cog on the rear is in line with the middle chainring (RTR, chime in here as it works for you). It's pretty close though. I think a 165mm freeride hub would be better but it's through-axle and heavy. And this is all getting away from my philosophy of using commonly made parts. So for now, I'm staying with the offset on the stock frames but can build a 0 offset custom one if anyone wants. The 20mm offset rear triangle works great with wide rims if they are off-center drilled but becomes an issue when you want to run skinny 29" wheels in the summer on your FatBike frame. It works, but the unequal spoke lengths on each side aren't ideal strength wise. Anyway, everything is a compromise and it's always a work in progress so thanks for the input (notice those rack mounts on Dave's frame, huh?).

    Snowing again in Anchorage today? Same here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildfire
    After seeing the demise of the off the shelf 73 X 127.5 XT bottom bracket and what was left of the square taper cranksets out there that worked well with the FatBike, some changes were in order. Went with the new 100mm shell to give the option of using a Phil Wood BB square taper bottom bracket like Dave's bike or 100 X 148mm ISIS
    Thanks for chiming in Mark. Good move on the wider BB. It wouldn't be an issue if Phil came out with some true 85mm dedicated BBs, but I'd imagine the market is probably pretty limited. Maybe some pushing and nudging on your part

    Quote Originally Posted by Wildfire
    everything is a compromise and it's always a work in progress so thanks for the input (notice those rack mounts on Dave's frame, huh?).
    I'm understanding your logic on the rear triangles, but it is nice that you're open enough to allow the wider dropout spacing to be a custom option. Just as the downhill 100mm wide BB components are pretty commonplace now, so are the wider rear hubs.

    It has been interesting to follow the evolution of snowbikes through the years. Good job on keeping an open mind to improvements. And yes, I did notice the rear rack braze-ons. I first saw them on the orange Chris King blinged out one you built and gave you a nod for incorporating another great idea!

    Looks like the dropouts are a bit more sculpted now too. Classy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildfire
    Here's the story of my decline into the sordid sport of fat wheeled snow biking. From my earliest years I showed interest in the sport and progressed to the point I'm at now. I shudder to think what's next.

    Noob here....what's the black thing velcroed???
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    Was wondering that myself until I stumbled upon the Wildfire Designs site a few minutes ago. Looks like their frame bag. http://www.wildfirecycles.com/fatbikes.html
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