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    Skyhawk and my Size

    Saw you guys have the Skyhawk for sale right now, and it is extremely tempting for $350 shipped. My question is this. I'm 6'2 and weigh about 225 lbs. Would I be better off with the Guardian 29er, or will the Skyhawk do just fine for me? I've never owned a 29er before, only been on 26ers.

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    I'm no salesman, I'm just the product guy here at Airborne. I'll give you my opinion as a tall guy myself (6'1"-ish).

    If you can afford the "stretch" (pun intended!) of funds to get the Guardian, get it. The larger wheels are more forgiving at rolling over obstacles, plus the bike just looks "right" proportionately when you are talking about taller riders like us. Plus with the Guardian you get better shifting components, nicer tires, and a better fork.

    In regards to sizing, I'd probably put you on a 20" Guardian unless you have a freakishly short inseam for your height.

    Truthfully the 26" wheeled Skyhawk will do just fine for you, but IMHO the Guardian doesn't cost much more and give you a lot more for that extra $$.

    Hope that helps a little!

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    I measured my leg height, and I'm between 33-34". According to the sizing website I found that puts me on a 19-20" frame. Which is strange because my old Trek 4300 is an 18" frame it was way too small for me (or so it felt) but my current Giant Rincon is a 22" and is WAY too big.

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    That makes sense. The old Trek 4300, with the old way that mtb's used to be sized (with shorter TT's and longer stems) should be small on you. I wouldn't be able to ride that frame either. And if the Rincon is a current design, a 22" frame is huge. With that inseam you are squarely on a 20" Guardian or a 19" (which technically is a 19.5) Skyhawk.

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    The Trek is probably 7-8 years old while the Rincon is about 4 years old. The Trek was the first "real" mountain bike I ever bought, and it was sized fine when I bought it but I obviously outgrew it, while the Rincon I bought thinking I was going to grow more and I didn't lol.

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    While this is the style Rincon I have, but mine has V-brakes instead of discs.


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    You could get either. I'm also 6'1" I ride the skyhawk (but I do love it). The guardian is spec'd better for an entry level bike. I personally chose the skyhawk because I like the advantages of a 26er over the advantages of a 29er. Only thing is if you live in a place with trails like mine you will need a fork upgrade fairly quickly due to lack of rebound dampening.
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    I'm going to go to my bike shop tomorrow and get properly fitted, and test ride a 29er to see if I really do want one before I decide.

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    Get the 29er.

    Seriously.

    The Sky Hawk is a good bike and a good value. The Guardian is a GREAT value.

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    I guess I don't understand what all the hype is about lol, I'll find out tomorrow!

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    Skyhawk and my Size

    Quote Originally Posted by trailbikerider View Post
    I guess I don't understand what all the hype is about lol, I'll find out tomorrow!
    There are many topics fighting about it and i don't intend on making this one but. Main difference between the two is 26" can accelerate faster and most of the time handle with more precision. While 29" rolls over lager objects and can move faster when up to speed. It all depends on what you want out of the bike.
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    Like I said I'll be riding both today to determine what I want.

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    +1 for the guardian for sure. I think that the components on the skyhawk will leave you wishing for more (especially the fork).

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    No ride yet because it's snowing, but the guy at the bike shop said definitely I want a 29er, and he says I should get a 21" frame. Now I sat on a 19" and it wasn't bad but coulda used a bit more seat post, so I think a 20" will do just fine. There was a specialized hard rock there with hydros for $640, but I'd still be walking out the door for over the price of the guardian with tax added on. Plus it only had an Acera rear deraileur and an XCT front fork.
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    Ended up purchasing the Guardian tonight!

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    Yay!

    I think you made a good choice. There are many happy Guardian owners out there!

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    I JUST ordered the Skyhawk, but am now wondering if I should have gone with the Guardian...and just not told the fiance' about the price, lol. I'm curious to see how you like the Guardian for sure.

    **Edit...** I now see that the 18" Guardian, which I would need, is out of stock anyway. I'm not too interested in waiting, I want to get on the trails YESTERDAY. Skyhawk it is for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    Yay!

    I think you made a good choice. There are many happy Guardian owners out there!

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    That's redundant. There are many happy airborne customers period!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    Yay!

    I think you made a good choice. There are many happy Guardian owners out there!

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    Yessir! Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by bleedinblue View Post
    I JUST ordered the Skyhawk, but am now wondering if I should have gone with the Guardian...and just not told the fiance' about the price, lol. I'm curious to see how you like the Guardian for sure.

    **Edit...** I now see that the 18" Guardian, which I would need, is out of stock anyway. I'm not too interested in waiting, I want to get on the trails YESTERDAY. Skyhawk it is for me.
    I can still let you know how I like it that way when they are in stock you can purchase one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trailbikerider View Post
    Yessir! Thanks!



    I can still let you know how I like it that way when they are in stock you can purchase one.
    Works for me! If this ends up being my niche, upgrading to the 29er in the future is likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedinblue View Post
    I JUST ordered the Skyhawk, but am now wondering if I should have gone with the Guardian...and just not told the fiance' about the price, lol. I'm curious to see how you like the Guardian for sure.

    **Edit...** I now see that the 18" Guardian, which I would need, is out of stock anyway. I'm not too interested in waiting, I want to get on the trails YESTERDAY. Skyhawk it is for me.
    You probably already got your bike (hopefully), but I got my Skyhawk on Tuesday. Oddly, I was told the standover on the 18" frame was 30" and my old bike is 30.5", so I figured it should be fine for me (I am 5'8"). Well, due to the angle of the top bar, the Skyhawk is most definitely taller and could pose problems for some guys, if you know what I mean. At your height, I am sure it's not an issue. Enjoy, fellow Skyhawk owner!

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    Re: Skyhawk and my Size

    It could of just been an index adjustment for the RD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mahers View Post
    You probably already got your bike (hopefully), but I got my Skyhawk on Tuesday. Oddly, I was told the standover on the 18" frame was 30" and my old bike is 30.5", so I figured it should be fine for me (I am 5'8"). Well, due to the angle of the top bar, the Skyhawk is most definitely taller and could pose problems for some guys, if you know what I mean. At your height, I am sure it's not an issue. Enjoy, fellow Skyhawk owner!
    Mine just got delivered a couple hours ago. I'm stuck at work now, but after I get off and hit the gym tonight, I plan to put her together. I'll report back.

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    Not bad they deliver on Saturday! Enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mahers View Post
    You probably already got your bike (hopefully), but I got my Skyhawk on Tuesday. Oddly, I was told the standover on the 18" frame was 30" and my old bike is 30.5", so I figured it should be fine for me (I am 5'8"). Well, due to the angle of the top bar, the Skyhawk is most definitely taller and could pose problems for some guys, if you know what I mean. At your height, I am sure it's not an issue. Enjoy, fellow Skyhawk owner!
    Haha...totally see what you mean now! You better be careful. I didn't measure the SOH, but I've basically got NO margin for error. I can stand flat footed, but just barely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedinblue View Post
    Haha...totally see what you mean now! You better be careful. I didn't measure the SOH, but I've basically got NO margin for error. I can stand flat footed, but just barely.
    I may need to get some lifts!

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    Bike came on the Fed Ex truck this morning just as I was leaving for my class. So I had just enough time to sign for it, and toss it in the garage. Excited to tear into the box and put it together!

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    Awesome man, have fun. I've put the first 20 miles on mine over the past two days, it really is a nice bike.
    Earnest Hemingway once said "The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedinblue View Post
    Awesome man, have fun. I've put the first 20 miles on mine over the past two days, it really is a nice bike.
    Where's the pics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem7sk View Post
    Where's the pics?
    No good pics, but just what I snapped with my phone on the fly.









    /overkill lol
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    Nice pics... Didn't know they had sand in MO. Mine should be here Friday... Hope FedEx doesn't trash this one like they did the last one.

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    Not much sand in Mo at all, this trail was along the Meramec River. It was my first time being there and I was shocked by the sand myself....especially when I hit it at 10+ mph...lol

    I don't like Fedex, but they treated my bike well. Hopefully you have the same luck!
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    Re: Skyhawk and my Size

    How tall are you? That seat looks really low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedinblue View Post
    I don't like Fedex, but they treated my bike well. Hopefully you have the same luck!
    FedEx banged up one side of my box and I found a not so minor gash by the logo. I know I'll probably ding it up, but I'd rather be the one to do it versus having it happen straight out of the box. Oh well, bike still works!

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    Got it mostly setup. Gotta true both wheels a bit, they're rubbing on the rotors, and then do a little derailleur adjustment and it'll be all set!

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    Re: Skyhawk and my Size

    You might try adjusting/seating the calipers first before truing the wheels.

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    I did try that up front and still rubs in one spot, so I'll just adjust the spokes a bit and get it in working order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trevor_b View Post
    How tall are you? That seat looks really low.
    Yesterday while riding I thought the seat might have been too low...just didn't want to take the time to adjust it, I should have just to try different heights.
    Earnest Hemingway once said "The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

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    Unless I don't understand the problem correctly, you shouldnt be doing anything to the wheel to fix a break issue. The rotor is attached to the hub. Adjusting the spokes won't true the rotor if its rubbing. You can usually use an adjustable crescent wrench to bend the rotor slightly to get it into true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swildnm View Post
    Unless I don't understand the problem correctly, you shouldnt be doing anything to the wheel to fix a break issue. The rotor is attached to the hub. Adjusting the spokes won't true the rotor if its rubbing. You can usually use an adjustable crescent wrench to bend the rotor slightly to get it into true.
    I also had slight rubbing in one spot on both tires. A little tug on the rotors fixed it right up.

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    Got almost everything setup other than the derailleurs. I still am getting a random rub on the rotors every once in a while? Not sure what's causing that. I tightened the wheels to spec, and adjusted the calipers a couple of times and it'll be fine then i'll ride it around the driveway and it'll rub a couple times and then stop rubbing.

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    I had the same types of little things with mine, the minor rubbing and I couldn't get the front derailleur just right. I just dropped the bike off at the bike shop today, I'll let them give it a once over and make sure everything is good. I can take over tuning and adjusting when it needs it again, but at least I'll know I'm likely working with true wheels/rotors (Barring damage, of course) It's cheap enough and worth the peace of mind, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedinblue View Post
    Yesterday while riding I thought the seat might have been too low...just didn't want to take the time to adjust it, I should have just to try different heights.
    hey bleedinblue, about to get a skyhawk myself, but I am 5'9" and there is only 19" frames left. So, how tall are you? Do you have the 19" frame?
    cheers

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    I'm 5'10 and have the 18" frame. If I were you I'd check with Jeremy and see if/when they will have more 18's in stock. I don't think I'd be comfortable on a bigger bike.
    Earnest Hemingway once said "The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

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    thanks for your repply bleedin"!
    Will check but I don't think they have any more :/

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    I just ordered the last 18" Skyhawk! It is actually the bike you can see on their website, so my bike is world famous already
    Can't wait to take it out! Thanks Jeremy!

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    They gave you the last one?

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    That is correct. Sorry in case you were one of the people about to order... I snagged it up )

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    Cool... I already got my 18" SkyHawk.. Got it a couple weeks ago
    Finally got my SkyHawk

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    Quote Originally Posted by jannor View Post
    That is correct. Sorry in case you were one of the people about to order... I snagged it up )
    Don't forget to get a spare hanger
    One reason I started with the SkyHawk (I already broke it)

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