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    Quote Originally Posted by swildnm View Post
    I Put a Stans Kit on my Guardian. Make sure you get the All Mountain 29er kit.( the XC kit will be too narrow). The disc bull rims are really wide, so you'll need the width of the AM kit. Also I had problems taping up the spoke holes with the tape included in the kit. The holes are off set, so you can try two wraps of tape to cover the width, or buy a roll of the 25mm tape. I ended up having to buy the wider tape for my front wheel because it kept loosing air through the spoke holes.

    This is with the stock Kenda SB8's.
    Thanks, this is great - you saved me a lot if trouble!



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    Quote Originally Posted by codyh12345 View Post
    Well that sucks... didn't know the FD caused a clearance issue
    It's no issue with the stock tires, however if one goes wider there is a chance for rub when shifted down into the smallest front chainring. The more expensive FD's like the X7/X9 series have a narrower profile due to the rivot attachment method so they are a good upgrade if one is concerned about putting larger tires on the bike and likes to use the little front ring.

    We'd love to spec the next generation of the Guardian (late 2013 maybe) with a 2x10 X5 set-up but it would push the bike up and over the $599 pricepoint.

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    Next month we are producing a Goblin XO that will have a full XO group, FSA SLK carbon bar/stem/post, and Black Flag Pro wheels. Gonna be awesome!!!!!![/QUOTE]


    Any clue what fork will be on this bike? Very interested. Might have to change my bike snob ways.

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    GO AIRBORNE !!!! MAKE YOUR NAME COMPETE AT YOUR VERY BEST CAUSE THERE ARE BIG NAMES OUT THERE WHO MADE IT, NOW IT'S UP TO AIRBORNE TO GO & TAKE THE TITLE . (Y)
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    More Sun Ringle Black Flag Pro's Also upgraded to the Fox fork, Answer XC handlebar, XT brakes and Thomson stem and seatpost.
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    Poontank that goblin looks great is it a 18?

    what fox shock did you go with?

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    I went with the 32 F29 RLC with 15mm TA. Great fork and the gold just happens to look bomber with the rest of the bike

    And yes, it is an 18" frame.
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    have had my Guardian less than a month. here are some changes and some thoughts.

    PARTS CHANGES:

    swapped fork to Rockshox recon silver TK29 solo-air. Love it!

    swapped rear rotor to 185. first ride due 9-23-12, @ 9AM

    swapping front rotor to 203. waiting for bracket.

    changed seat to Specialized take off at LBS from previous bike. original bent down to the post!

    swapped front derailleur to SRAM XGen. first ride due 9-23-12, @ 9AM

    PLANS/NEEDS:

    my rear axle is bent. the guardian is not Fat Kid friendly! im 270#. no jumping. no crazy DH'ing. some, but minimal, seated descending.

    SO, my next upgrade will be a rear wheel set, then later, a front to match.



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    I still love this bike!
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    Here is a little something we put together during the Wingman upgrade process.

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    My Guardian, with a RaceFace Atlas bar, Stans Notubes, X9 front der and a Reba fork.

    My wife's Skyhawk with Stans Notubes, a Charge Ladle saddle, RaceFace Ride 70mm stem and seatpost, Ritchy WCS Ergo grips, and an '07 Marzocchi XC700 fork.

    Sorry no cool backdrops just quick pics in the driveway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swildnm View Post
    My Guardian, with a RaceFace Atlas bar, Stans Notubes, X9 front der and a Reba fork.

    My wife's Skyhawk with Stans Notubes, a Charge Ladle saddle, RaceFace Ride 70mm stem and seatpost, Ritchy WCS Ergo grips, and an '07 Marzocchi XC700 fork.

    Sorry no cool backdrops just quick pics in the driveway.
    Is that a Race Face Atlas low bar or high bar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beowulf62 View Post
    Is that a Race Face Atlas low bar or high bar?
    Its the low Atlas.

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    Someone PMed me about going tubeless on the guardian. But i cant respond privately because I don't have enough posts. So I'll stick it here and get one post closer.

    So far it has been great, It was a little difficult to set up at first because of the thin tape included with the kit. but with wider tape everything went well, and they don't lose air at all. I don't see why you couldn't do it with just rim tape, stems and sealant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swildnm View Post
    Someone PMed me about going tubeless on the guardian. But i cant respond privately because I don't have enough posts. So I'll stick it here and get one post closer.

    So far it has been great, It was a little difficult to set up at first because of the thin tape included with the kit. but with wider tape everything went well, and they don't lose air at all. I don't see why you couldn't do it with just rim tape, stems and sealant.
    Ok thanks. I'm going to try a gorilla tape ghetto tubeless setup this weekend and see how that works. I've have 4 flats in the past week and a half so I'm getting really frustrated. I previously had no flats for the past 3 months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barheet View Post
    Ok thanks. I'm going to try a gorilla tape ghetto tubeless setup this weekend and see how that works. I've have 4 flats in the past week and a half so I'm getting really frustrated. I previously had no flats for the past 3 months.
    Its those sb8s. They offer very little puncture protection. I was getting flat just ridding on gravel. Hence why I upgraded to the nevegal. I love how fast rolling they were but I was fed up with punctures.


    swildnm . What Reba fork did you go with? Is it a 80mm or 100?
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    We ride SB8's in Ohio 7-8 months of the year with no problems. Something else must be going on.
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    Pressure?

    I was initially sketchy about the SB8s, but I gave them a fair shake and really dig how fast they roll. Since may, I've yet to experience a flat. The video demonstrates the terrain my SB8s survived, repeatedly over the season.

    maybe your pressure is just a hair too low...

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    i also agree the SB8's aren't as bad as people have been saying. I just rode over the greenbelt in Austin and I'm going to probably see my front der rip off before my tires get a flat. My tires aren't tubeless or anything. I'm riding fine at about 30-35 psi

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    Yeah like I said, I had no problems for months. I don't think it's the tires...I did check the inside of the tires repeatedly to make sure there weren't any leftover thorns. The last flat I got was a snakebite, so I'm guessing I lost some pressure while riding and just didn't notice. Loss of pressure was probably due to either a bad patch or a small hole I didn't find. Either way, tires are great but they are about to meet Mr. Stan.
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    Hey Jerry, when are you going to tell me the name of the song in that video?
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    Oops. No mods yet. I'll have to get on that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barheet View Post
    Ok thanks. I'm going to try a gorilla tape ghetto tubeless setup this weekend and see how that works. I've have 4 flats in the past week and a half so I'm getting really frustrated. I previously had no flats for the past 3 months.
    We did the ghetto method on a friends sette razzo a couple of weeks ago.... worked very well. FYI we just cut some stems out of some old tubes instead of buying the $16 ones from the shop. They hold air fine and he loves it.

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    Are there any Airborne Graphics available that would fit on the forks on these two? I thought I saw some somewhere...


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    Quote Originally Posted by swildnm View Post
    Are there any Airborne Graphics available that would fit on the forks on these two? I thought I saw some somewhere...

    They sent me a sticker pack on my order. I can measure them out if you like. I'll even send them to ya. I just need one for my toolbox. Not really a sticker person on trucks n such. Post Your Modified Airborne Bikes-imageuploadedbytapatalk1348777630.476651.jpg

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    Thanks for the offer, They look like they will fit. I've got to order some spare derailleur hangers from them anyway, I'll just get some stickers from them then.

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    Called Airborne today. They had no derailleur hangers but they are sending me some stickers. Ordered hangers from derailleurhanger.com.

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    Finally modified my new toy!
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    My Airborne Freeride and Downhill rigs

    Marauder:



    Shimano Deore cranks/bb & Dual control shifters/disc brakes.
    E-thirteen bash guard.
    Kona Pedals with extra set screws added for traction.

    200mm rotors front and rear.

    Marzocchi Coil rear shock.

    Marzocchi 66 180mm fork

    Uno seat post
    Salsa QR seat post clamp

    Velocity Blunt Wheels
    Shimano XT hubs

    CST BFT tires f/r - 2.5 width

    Marrow Components FR/DH stem
    sunline 745 Bars untrimmed

    Lizard Skins Peaty bolt on gips.

    coming mods: finding a shorter-stroke shock.

    Love it.


    The Taka:



    Current Taka:

    Stock Taka Frame - paint stripped to raw aluminum, no clear coat.

    Stock - Marzocchi 888 RV fork

    Stock - Gravity Cranks/bb

    Stock - E-13 LG-1 chainguide with taco

    Upgrades/changes:

    Rock Shox Kage coil shock

    • Function direct mount stem/crown combo

    • Sunline V-1 745mm bars

    • Lizard Skins Peaty grips

    • Avid Elixr disc brakes

    • Sun MTX 33 wheelset

    • Gamut 34 T Chainring

    • Tires: Kenda Telonix DH casing/super tacky compound in 2.6 size (CST BFT tires pictured)

    • Shifter: SRAM X7 - Deraileur: SRAM RIVAL short cage - Cassette: 10 spd road cassette - (cassette pictured is random spare part from inital spring set up)

    • SDG - I-Beam seat post and I-Fly saddle

    • Pedals - (pictured) Azonic 420s - Currently running Kona jack sh*t pedals with extra set screws for traction (same as set up on Marauder)

    Future upgrades/changes: Looking for a Boxxer | Deity bars, pedals and saddle | Going back to Azonic Outlaw wheels for next season. The MTX wheels were great, durable and light - and if I only rode Winter Park or similar, they'd be perfect. But there's a few places I like to ride that will destroy ANY wheelset, so cheap & strong will be the way to go.
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    Not too many modifications yet:

    • *The pedals are Shimano M646 DX spd, scavenged them from my older FS bike.
    • *Used an old inner tube as a chainstay protector
    • *One of the rails bent on the stock Selle San Marco saddle so I swapped it for a Specialized saddle I had lying around.


  30. I'd like to swap out the front derailleur to a 2011 SRAM x9 but wasn't sure which type/size would be best:



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    Quote Originally Posted by j7hompson View Post
    Not too many modifications yet:

    • *The pedals are Shimano M646 DX spd, scavenged them from my older FS bike.
    • *Used an old inner tube as a chainstay protector
    • *One of the rails bent on the stock Selle San Marco saddle so I swapped it for a Specialized saddle I had lying around.


    I'd like to swap out the front derailleur to a 2011 SRAM x9 but wasn't sure which type/size would be best:

    Looking good.

    I have a set of the those same pedals - though I doubt I'll ever use them unless I decide I don't like my 510's later on. They work great though. Amazing how well the inner tubes work to quiet the bike down (for the chainstay protector).

    Not sure which front Der. you'll need, maybe BigDaddy will chime in later on...
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    Hiigh Clamp, Top Pull, 34.9.
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    Just an update on my problem. My gorilla tape tubeless conversion went flawlessly. I used a portable air tank for the blast of air and Stan's sealant. No problems so far. I might be imagining things, but I feel a slight difference in weight. My acceleration is a bit crisper as a result.
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    That's great Nathan. How much tube did you leave around the presta valve? Or did you buy tubeless valves? Any pics?
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    I barely left any tube around the valves. I had two different tubes I cut from...one of them had a bit more of a "bump" around the valve, but both seated well. No pics, but here is the exact strategy I used:

    1. Removed rim strip, wiped down rim.
    2. Cut gorilla tape to approx enough to go inside the rim. Had one rim with a wider cut than the other, and the wider cut seated easier. So, cut it just narrow enough to fit inside the rim.
    3. Cut a hole in the valve hole.
    4. Cut valve out of old tube and cut it all the way down getting rid of almost all the tube surrounding the valve. Insert valve into rim.
    5. Inserted a new strip of tape over the valve. I used about 2 feet of tape.
    6. Seat the tire on the rim. Don't put sealant in yet.
    7. Put soapy water on the tire.
    8. Beat the outside of the tire down to get the beads to seat on the rim. You might have to do this for a few minutes. When you think it's seated well, use an air compressor (or portable air tank) with presta adaper. You should be able to see where the holes are with the soapy water. This step took me a couple of tries. When the tire is starting to fill with air, it's properly seated.
    9. Use a tire lever to unseat a couple inches of bead at the bottom of the tire. (keep valve at the top)
    10. Pour in sealant. Reseat the bead.
    11. You might need more soapy water at this point.
    12. Air up tire. It should pop when it's seated correctly. Now do the "Shake and turn" method like on the Stan's video. Set the tire on a bucket, shake and turn, set tire on bucket, rinse and repeat until bubbles are gone.
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    Oh I almost forgot to cut the second strip of tape that went over the valve. But I figured it out when I went to air up the tire. haha. Important step, that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jkidd_39 View Post
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    I like the black and white color scheme. Take the reflector off the spokes......thats so Walmart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aikane View Post
    I like the black and white color scheme. Take the reflector off the spokes......thats so Walmart.
    Thanks! I've been lazy. Haven't removed the reflectors yet. Trying to squeeze in as much riding as possible before winter. Here she is muddyPost Your Modified Airborne Bikes-imageuploadedbytapatalk1350268273.943599.jpg

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    Here's mine fresh off a 25 mile ride this afternoon. Changes include the Reba fork, tubeless conversion, and Ergon grips. I'm halfway through my 1x9 conversion but Amazon sent me the wrong size jumpstop, so I shortened the chain anyway and ran it as is in the middle cog. Didn't have any jumps all day. Also noticed a huge difference in weight. Ran the whole 25 miles without going into my lowest gear and it climbs like a rocket now.

    However, I got the tires a bit too low. If you look close you can probably see where I burped out some sealant on the back tire. A friend told me to run it less than 20 PSI. That's what I get for following a friend's advice, eh? I think 24 PSI is about right for me, especially since they are stock rims and tires.

    Fork is running very well. I bottomed it out running 120 PSI so I filled it to 140 PSI and you can see it almost bottomed out but not quite. Still a very nice, cushy ride.
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    Added a Fox Float 32 RLC. Loving it. Just took my brand new Oakley jury glasses I got off price point. And lost them on the tailgate of my truck. FML. Post Your Modified Airborne Bikes-imageuploadedbytapatalk1351992701.835627.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkidd_39 View Post
    Added a Fox Float 32 RLC. Loving it. Just took my brand new Oakley jury glasses I got off price point. And lost them on the tailgate of my truck. FML. Click image for larger version. 

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    Nice, how much travel does that fork have and how much did you get it for? I'm looking at upgrading front suspension on my Zeppelin too--I jammed the U-Turn of the stock Tora, plus they're very sticky feeling (don't slide up and down well) anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexzhu1 View Post
    Nice, how much travel does that fork have and how much did you get it for? I'm looking at upgrading front suspension on my Zeppelin too--I jammed the U-Turn of the stock Tora, plus they're very sticky feeling (don't slide up and down well) anyways.
    It's a 100mm fork. I believe you can change that with spacers however. I gave $200 for it used. The thing that amazed me is how heavy the tora is. I bet I shaved darn near 2lbs by swapping forks

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    SS Rigid Guardian

    just completed the conversion to SS, pending a full ride!

    I swapped in a rigid Voodoo Zombie fork. while taking things apart, i decided a good bath was in order! Also, ive been considering forcing myself to run 1x9, as this is the setup ill be riding my yelli in. well, one thing led to another, and it started turning into a single speed!

    so, the fork



    mounted



    the crank arm removed to delete the granny ring- swl7, i think you were tightening on yours, cause mine came right off!





    Singlespeed parts!



    On-One Armada 19t cog, very nice gear! tonights ride will dictate if a 20t is a better idea!



    DMR sts tensioner. very nice product! i do believe that i have to much slack, but its fine for road so far. will see with a bumby downhill tonight if it will drop. if so, ill have to buy another chain, cause ive read that SRAM chains are not very half-link friendly.



    A little night ride love! seems good on my street so far. Cygolite Pace 350



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    Looks good~

    Why would you need a half-link? The tensioner should eliminate that need. Looks like you need to take a full link out and you should be OK.
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    thanx Jeremy. a full link is 3-4mm to short to reach. a half would be perfect! but if tonight dictates to get a 20 or 21, then i wont need the half.

    this is with the tensioner in full up position. full down was so loose the chain skipped under load. it rides fine around the neighborhood, just not sure of the trail yet!

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    nice, it looks great. I'm pretty sure I was turning my crank the correct way to loosen it i'm sure it's just different per bike. Maybe might was extra tight whoever/whatever put it on.

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    Hmm, OK. With that much slack it certainly looks to me like a link out should be near perfect with the tensioner, but photos can be deceiving I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zukrider View Post
    thanx Jeremy. a full link is 3-4mm to short to reach. a half would be perfect! but if tonight dictates to get a 20 or 21, then i wont need the half.

    this is with the tensioner in full up position. full down was so loose the chain skipped under load. it rides fine around the neighborhood, just not sure of the trail yet!

    Chain is Definitely too slack. It might not derail, but it will bounce around and more than likely skip under load. If a half link won't do, I'm sure there's a gearing ration you switch to. There used to be some sort of calculator on Sheldon Brown's website that you could punch in your chainstay length and and desired cog or chainwheel. It would return a range of gearing ratios that would fit.

    That said, I toyed with the idea of going single speed with mine, but I did almost two years of that a while back and found out my knees are getting too old. Looks great so far, dig that fork!
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    goblin mods for the coming marathon/xc season

    still having fun on the Gob. lightened some components on the front end and can feel a difference. running 110+/95- in the reba but may tweak this with more neg pressure (i am about 165lbs).

    last month's changes:
    easton EA70 seatpost
    carbon riser bar
    carbon/aluminum road 90mm stem
    pro lock on grips (lighter with single lock-on collar)
    avid juicy ultimates with carbon levers

    earlier mods:
    conti race king front tire - tubeless
    kenda sb8 rear tire - tubeless
    easton havoc 80mm stem (replaced)
    fizik cx seat
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    so the ride last night was fun! definitely need a taller cog, so the half-link is a none issue at this point. will try a 20 and 21. maybe even a 22. hill climbing is not real easy! should make me super strong though!
    2012 Airborne Guardian.

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