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    Quote Originally Posted by dlynes View Post
    Thanks so much,

    knowing nothing about new bikes I am trying to compare what one offers that another doesn't (not even knowing what some of the items mean).

    I recall reading some forks were said to be mechanical vs others being hydraulic.

    then I assumed hydraulic must be better so maybe I should look for something that offers that...

    Looking over my notes...I think the haro was the only bike I noticed that offered the hydraulic lock-out at my price point.
    Hey there, I think you are confusing brakes and forks.

    Disc brakes tend to be either hydraulic or mechanical. Hydraulic disc brakes have many advantages over mechanical disc brakes; the main ones being better modulation, more consistent braking because they don't need re-adusting as pads wear, and they are easy to set-up. For some folks they can be intimidating because of having fluid instead of a cable, but modern hydro brakes are very trouble-free and hands-off.

    Forks tend to be of three types: Elastomer, spring, or air (or sometimes a combination, like air and spring). They all tend to have their pluses and minuses, but for cross-country bikes, air forks (like the Reba on the Goblin) tend to be the best choice as they offer lots of tunability.

    The forks on the Guardian, older green Goblin, and black Goblin all have lock-outs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    Hey there, I think you are confusing brakes and forks.

    Thanks~!

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    What would be the recommended frame size for me,

    5'10"
    31 inseam
    180 pounds
    Arm length 31"
    crotch to sternum 21"

    Going to order the Guardian for the wife and the New Goblin for myself on Monday, Can't wait.

    Thanks for the info
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    I'm thinking an 18 would be what I'd need

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    Yeah you have almost the exact measurements as me and I ride an 18.
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    Thanks,

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    Does the new Goblin have the bend in the top tube? On the singletracks review of the bike it shows a bend in the top tube, but on the airborne site it doesn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trevor_b View Post
    Does the new Goblin have the bend in the top tube? On the singletracks review of the bike it shows a bend in the top tube, but on the airborne site it doesn't?
    Just the small size frame has the bend in the top tube!

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    Just got my new Goblin delivered today! Still in the box, hope to get it assembled tomorrow. Looks like the rear wheel and derailleur is already attached. I believe that is a change from previous packaging?

    Regards,

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    Pulled the trigger on a Goblin..should be here sometime this week..already havet some Black Flag wheels on stand by to go on it..a carbon handle bar and seat post and stem...gonna throw some ODI lock on grips on it..not sure about the tires as I have never used the ones that come on it...kinda like the Kenda SB 8s so debating about that one..

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    New Goblin Arrived

    Came home from work today and my new Goblin was waiting to be put together..like others have said this thing is packed excellent...took me longer to unpack and unwrap everything than it did to put it together..about 22 minutes to assemble once I got everything unwrapped..

    As ii sits right now it shifts pretty good...maybe a little tweaking needs to be done but I could go out and ride it..disc rotor on the front rubs a bit..no biggie..I just put the front wheel on and really did not take the time to make sure I had everything centered up...

    The thing looks solid...pictures really do not do it justice..looks tight in person..will throw the new wheels on it this weekend and some other goodies and take her for ride..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXTony View Post
    Came home from work today and my new Goblin was waiting to be put together..like others have said this thing is packed excellent...took me longer to unpack and unwrap everything than it did to put it together..about 22 minutes to assemble once I got everything unwrapped..

    As ii sits right now it shifts pretty good...maybe a little tweaking needs to be done but I could go out and ride it..disc rotor on the front rubs a bit..no biggie..I just put the front wheel on and really did not take the time to make sure I had everything centered up...

    The thing looks solid...pictures really do not do it justice..looks tight in person..will throw the new wheels on it this weekend and some other goodies and take her for ride..
    Looks great!! Willing to post a photo (and weight) when you get the new carbon and BF wheels on??

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    Looks great!! Willing to post a photo (and weight) when you get the new carbon and BF wheels on??

    Will do...

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    Pulled the trigger on a 22" Black Goblin this morning You guys at Airborne just had to dangle the green Goblin in my size out there at such a good price but in the end i felt the improvements on the black where worth the extra $$$ for my size and style of riding. Now the hard part begins waiting for the big brown truck without going

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    Well after braking my Sette and reviving the old Caloi and riding her till she was about to snap. I finally was able to get a new bike. Santa's Elf with a brown fetish dropped her off Friday and I put her together Friday night. only have a quick ride in on the ice of my street so far but hope to see some frozen trail latter today. Have already started tinkering with the build slightly replaced the bars and seat post with much lighter ones put on some Ergon GP1 grips and set up the wheels Gorilla tubeless. I'm sure some more bits and pieces will find themselves lightened up as time and $$$ find themselves available but these parts were in the parts bin so only smart to use them. Vary impressed with the frame and components were impressive for the $$$ I had full X7 on my last bike but the newer version has defiantly seen some trickle down. The wheel set was my bigest wory in buying the bike and i was alredy reserching what rims and hubs I was going to replace them with but after seeing in person they are much better and lighter than I could have hoped so they will be staying for a while. I am also pretty happy with overall weight about a 27lb 22" framed 29r bike. Especially when the Caloi 21" framed 26r was 32lbs. as measured on my digital bathroom scale. with Shimano SLX trail peddles. As for assembly Very easy and most riders could complete in under an hour. My self being a old bike shop mechanic went a little further and striped the frame and did a full build up ensuring that everything was lubed and torqued the way i liked it yes I'm a little OCD on by bike stuff.

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    Looks great TMJ! Thanks for the info, I'm just waiting till after the holidays to ordered a couple of them. Good to see someone fairly close to me on here.

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    My first ride today in years with my new beast the Goblin. You know you have something good if you don't have to think about what is under you and you can just pay attention to the trail. Love this thing

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    Was out on the trail today and saw one of the older Goblins...man that green pops on those..hope Airborne uses more of that green in some of there other bikes..

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    Just assembled my new 20" Goblin today..."Merry Christmas to me". Bad weather today, so I'll have to wait till tomorrow to take her for a spin. Anyone else get any shiny new Airbornes for Christmas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brnd72 View Post
    Just assembled my new 20" Goblin today..."Merry Christmas to me". Bad weather today, so I'll have to wait till tomorrow to take her for a spin. Anyone else get any shiny new Airbornes for Christmas?
    How tall are you, what's your inseam etc? Tryin to figure out if I need the 18 or 20. Did you go sit on any bikes at a retailer that has similar geometry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXTony View Post
    Was out on the trail today and saw one of the older Goblins...man that green pops on those..hope Airborne uses more of that green in some of there other bikes..
    I saw that same bike, man was that guy good looking or what? Next time we ride, I'm sure you'll be on the new one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FullsizeMike View Post
    I saw that same bike, man was that guy good looking or what? Next time we ride, I'm sure you'll be on the new one.

    -Mike
    What are the odds...yeah next time I will rock the Goblin

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    Quote Originally Posted by trevor_b View Post
    How tall are you, what's your inseam etc? Tryin to figure out if I need the 18 or 20. Did you go sit on any bikes at a retailer that has similar geometry?

    I have a 35" inseam barefooted, I'm 6'2" and I've got about 2 inches clearance over top tube.
    I test rode a 2011 Trek Cobra, but it was way too small for me (17.5 frame)...I could ride it with the seat waaaay up. looked kinda funny.
    I didn't like the geometry of the 19" Trek Marlin, very sluggish turning radius.
    I looked at Specialized, Giant & Trek...all had crappy component setups...felt like I was just paying top dollar for the brand name only. I've been totally impressed thus far with the New Goblin...gonna take it to the trails tomorrow...see what she can do. I'm really want to check these tires out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brnd72 View Post
    I have a 35" inseam barefooted, I'm 6'2" and I've got about 2 inches clearance over top tube.
    I test rode a 2011 Trek Cobra, but it was way too small for me (17.5 frame)...I could ride it with the seat waaaay up. looked kinda funny.
    I didn't like the geometry of the 19" Trek Marlin, very sluggish turning radius.
    I looked at Specialized, Giant & Trek...all had crappy component setups...felt like I was just paying top dollar for the brand name only. I've been totally impressed thus far with the New Goblin...gonna take it to the trails tomorrow...see what she can do. I'm really want to check these tires out.
    Thanks, I'm 6' with a 32" inseam so I'm thinking the 18" will be good for me. I agree with paying for the big brand names. This new goblin seems to be the best bang for the buck.

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    Well I've had a couple of good rides thus far & love my new Goblin!
    I really love the 2x10 drivetrain...much more efficient than my previous 3x9.
    The geometry works great for a 20 inch frame, only slightly less nimble than my 19" 26er...still able to throw down in the twisty sections.
    I had my initial doubts about the tires, seeing the similarities to the SB8s I didn't think they would stick for the type trail surfaces here in south Alabama. (loose sand mixed with hardpack & lots of wet roots thrown in)
    The AKAs handled beautifully, like riding on rails with a touch of slack without losing control...never slid out front or rear. Great choice Airborne!
    I haven't been able to dial in the fork yet, got to buy a pump. The preset pressure is rideable but still a bit too stiff.
    I immediately changed a few parts on day one : stem, bars & grips...for weight and comfort I used my shorter stem and carbon riser bars. I also got a set of ergon grips for comfort.
    So far I'm loving the new Goblin....I'll post any new findings as I get everything dialed in.
    Let me know if anyone has any specific questions...for those of you still thinking of pulling the trigger.
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    I'm planning on getting the new goblin in a few months. I don't have and questions now (pertaining to the bike) but ill be sure to check back from time to time.

    Any idea what pump you will buy for the front shock?

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    Looking at this one on pricepoint.com :
    Sette Air 2 ST-35 Universal Shock Pump at Price Point

    Unless anyone has any suggestions....it's cheap & functional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brnd72 View Post
    Looking at this one on pricepoint.com :
    Sette Air 2 ST-35 Universal Shock Pump at Price Point

    Unless anyone has any suggestions....it's cheap & functional.
    That looks really good. I have the Rockshox version but it lacks the "disengagement without leakage" feature which is really nice. It doesn't take much leakage to change the pressure significantly.

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    been using the sette pump for 3 years with no issues being able to take pump off without effecting the pressure is a big + in my book

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    Took em out for a cold ride today

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    TEXting what do you think of the black flags and how much of an improvement over the stock wheelset do you think they are. your the 4th airborne I have seen change out to black flags. so far I have found the stock wheelset to be far better than I had expected not in the same ballpark as the I9s I had on my 26r but dang good for stock. I hope to relace the I9s later this year if I can find the cash some green spoke bling would really pop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailMasonJones View Post
    TEXting what do you think of the black flags and how much of an improvement over the stock wheelset do you think they are. your the 4th airborne I have seen change out to black flags. so far I have found the stock wheelset to be far better than I had expected not in the same ballpark as the I9s I had on my 26r but dang good for stock. I hope to relace the I9s later this year if I can find the cash some green spoke bling would really pop.
    TMJ, I have the same Black Flag Comps as well as a set of Stan's Arch EX's and it's a noticable improvement over the stock wheels. I've also taken the wheels from the new Goblin ghetto tubeless (Gorilla tape & Stan's valves) and that also makes a big difference.

    FWIW, I picked up the Black Flags on sale at Performance for <$300 and gave $550 for the Arch EX's. For the $250 difference, I'd take the Flags any day.
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    Same as TreeKiller I got mine on sale so I pulled the trigger on them...and there is a noticeable improvement over the stock wheels...I also have a pair of I9s laced to Arch rims (26) and where going to rebuild a set of (29) wheels with those hubs and may still do it later on..but for value to performance the Black Flags are a great value...I also have a set of Ringle Charger Pro's I am running on a all mountain rig with a 20mm Maxle..I really like the Ringle wheels...they come with everything to in the box to set up tubeless and run different axle options..

    I will say the stock wheels on the Goblin are better than I thought they where going to be for a stock wheel...and so far overhaul the entire Goblin seems like a heck of a bike and a buyer definitely gets the value for the price of the bike

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    Thanks for the info TXTony and TreeKiller. I had just seen so many with he black flags that i had to ask. You both seemed to get them at a pretty good value if i find them at that i might pull the trigger myself. Otherwise next time I have the money the I9's will get built into big boy wheels and I know they are light and bombproof.

    Have a good New years

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailMasonJones View Post
    Thanks for the info TXTony and TreeKiller. I had just seen so many with he black flags that i had to ask. You both seemed to get them at a pretty good value if i find them at that i might pull the trigger myself. Otherwise next time I have the money the I9's will get built into big boy wheels and I know they are light and bombproof.

    Have a good New years
    No doubt the I9s/Arch set up will be a superior wheel...those are the best wheels I have ever had...the Goblin being my fist 29er I have tried to keep everything around a certain budget until I decide if it will be a main ride or something I use here and there..I am still one of those dudes who has not given up on the 26er...but every time I take the Goblin out for a ride I keep finding myself really enjoying this bike..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXTony View Post
    Took em out for a cold ride today
    That looks great! Nice shots. Do you mind if we "borrow" one for our main Facebook page photo one day?


    Thanks for the info TXTony and TreeKiller. I had just seen so many with he black flags that i had to ask. You both seemed to get them at a pretty good value if i find them at that i might pull the trigger myself. Otherwise next time I have the money the I9's will get built into big boy wheels and I know they are light and bombproof.
    I'm definitely north of 200lbs and I've been riding the Black Flag Pro's for awhile and really like them. Crossmax 29's used to be my favorite 29 XC wheelset but the BFP's really are just as good. Super stiff and light, pretty bombproof unless you do something really stupid (don't ask!) in which case no wheel will hold up. Plus as an added benefit the freehub has great engagement and sounds nice and "chainsawy" in the woods.

    Happy New Year!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    That looks great! Nice shots. Do you mind if we "borrow" one for our main Facebook page photo one day?




    I'm definitely north of 200lbs and I've been riding the Black Flag Pro's for awhile and really like them. Crossmax 29's used to be my favorite 29 XC wheelset but the BFP's really are just as good. Super stiff and light, pretty bombproof unless you do something really stupid (don't ask!) in which case no wheel will hold up. Plus as an added benefit the freehub has great engagement and sounds nice and "chainsawy" in the woods.

    Happy New Year!

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    Yep use the pictures however you want...thanks!

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    Tony, next time we're out, we should get a pic with both of them in it. I'm sure that'd be a cool pic for Airborne.

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    Went for a solo ride today, once again nothing but good things to say about the new Goblin. It definately loves "Goblin" up some singletrack!
    BTW...the trail pictured below had the Purdiest Mouth ya ever saw!
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails New Airborne Goblin-goblin-deliverance.jpg  

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    Quote Originally Posted by FullsizeMike View Post
    Tony, next time we're out, we should get a pic with both of them in it. I'm sure that'd be a cool pic for Airborne.
    Yep..I took the photo opportunity while you where grinding the hill and I was pacing myself !!

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    We had our annual New Years day ride here in KC today a beautiful 18*f and around 50 of the nicest people you could want to meet came out to play in the snow. The goblin was a blast and got quite a few head turns and inspections by other rides. I'm sold on 29r's now and even more I'm sold on the Goblin. Only complaint is the front tire would start to drift in tight corners over 16mph but then again we were on snow. Now at the same time the back tire was amazing climbing the hills in the snow.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailMasonJones View Post
    We had our annual New Years day ride here in KC today a beautiful 18*f and around 50 of the nicest people you could want to meet came out to play in the snow. The goblin was a blast and got quite a few head turns and inspections by other rides. I'm sold on 29r's now and even more I'm sold on the Goblin. Only complaint is the front tire would start to drift in tight corners over 16mph but then again we were on snow. Now at the same time the back tire was amazing climbing the hills in the snow.

    That's an awesome pic! Can we steal....err......borrow that one for our Facebook page sometime?

    That front tire drifting is totally normal when riding in snow. I even have that on my fatbike with 4" wide snow tires on it. If you ride in snow enough you start to learn the limits of grip and how to use body english when going around corners. I love riding in the snow this time of year because it hones my handling and balance skills.

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    We posted this earlier on Facebook but I wanted to let you guys here know.

    If you are thinking about a 16" Goblin, we are out until early March. We are also starting to run low on 18's so those will probably run out next.

    Our Goblin sales have greatly exceeded our expectations and we didn't forecast selling this many bikes so quickly.

    Thanks so much for all of the support, and we'll let everyone know when they are back in stock in March!

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    I'm definitely planning on buying the new goblin (probably in 18") in a couple months (which is March), so hopefully you have them then.

    Is the goblin xo going to be anywhere near the price of the hobgoblin ($1700)? I don't think I need that much bike but was just curious. I think the goblin is the perfect setup for me (and apparently a lot of others around the same height lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by trevor_b View Post
    I'm definitely planning on buying the new goblin (probably in 18") in a couple months (which is March), so hopefully you have them then.

    Is the goblin xo going to be anywhere near the price of the hobgoblin ($1700)? I don't think I need that much bike but was just curious. I think the goblin is the perfect setup for me (and apparently a lot of others around the same height lol)
    We should be OK on them when you are ready to order. Our replenishment run should be done and in the warehouse by the second week in March provided that there isn't another dockworker strike, hurricane, tsunami, or some other catastrophe.

    The Goblin X0 is going to be more than the current HobGoblin, but still a storming value for what it is. We are working on the page and photos right now and should have things up and running for pre-orders soon. It's a lot of bike for the money, but you also can't go wrong with the regular Goblin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    That's an awesome pic! Can we steal....err......borrow that one for our Facebook page sometime?

    That front tire drifting is totally normal when riding in snow. I even have that on my fatbike with 4" wide snow tires on it. If you ride in snow enough you start to learn the limits of grip and how to use body english when going around corners. I love riding in the snow this time of year because it hones my handling and balance skills.

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    #1 Yep if you see a pic i post and like it feel free to post it up facebook way any time you want.

    #2 You are absolutely correct my statement was at least 50% tongue in cheek and i will hold any final judgment until i have quite a few miles of nice dirt under the tires so far i have 153 miles of snow and ice under her tires. I am thinking that The AKA's may be my new favorite tire I know most on that ride were not hooking up near as well on the short steep gully climbs and it takes one hell of a tire to grip in the snow and ice on front with a 6'5" 260lb lever trying to pry it loose.

    #3 One of the things that made me buy Airborne was your interaction with the public here and on face book. Don't change You keep that up and it will be more than just 2 sizes of one bike you wont be able to keep in stock.

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    What about Goblin frames...how are you guys on them stock wise..thinking if getting just a frame to build up a gravel grinder type rig with a rigid fork...like size 18...so stoked on my current Goblin I want to build up one from scratch and see what I come up with

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailMasonJones View Post

    #3 One of the things that made me buy Airborne was your interaction with the public here and on face book. Don't change You keep that up and it will be more than just 2 sizes of one bike you wont be able to keep in stock.
    Thanks a lot! Its great to hear feedback like that.

    What about Goblin frames...how are you guys on them stock wise..thinking if getting just a frame to build up a gravel grinder type rig with a rigid fork...like size 18...so stoked on my current Goblin I want to build up one from scratch and see what I come up with
    No worries, stock is good on framesets for now.

    I built up a silver frameset for myself a month or so ago and really love it. I have a black one too and I hate to say it but..............I think I like the silver better. That says a lot coming from a guy who generally owns only black bikes for the most part. But I also love the orange that we are using for the HobGoblin frameset too since I built up one of those. I guess my tastes are changing~!

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    Hey riders....I purchased my New Gobling in 20" and like it a lot. I am 6-1 and 190 lbs. Maybe could have gone with the 18" but after riding other 18" hardtails---felt that would be too small.

    Nonetheless, I am looking to upgrade the seatpost and handlebar to carbon? Any suggestions as I am new to the carbon world! Thanks much in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoWolfpack View Post
    Hey riders....I purchased my New Gobling in 20" and like it a lot. I am 6-1 and 190 lbs. Maybe could have gone with the 18" but after riding other 18" hardtails---felt that would be too small.
    FWIW, I'm 6'2" (about 34" inseam), about the same weight, and have had my green 20" Goblin since August with about 800 singletrack and road miles on it so far. 20" feels just right for me. I can still easily get behind the seat when needed. The thing handles.

    I'm thinking about a lighter/wider bar, and a lighter seatpost... Probably a Thomson Elite because I like their clamping mechanism and they look really nice.

    The one question I have is, is the stock Goblin seatpost considered a 'setback' post and if so, how much is the setback? I measured ~2 cm, so, if I want the same geometry, do I go with a 20 mm setback post? This is probably totally obvious, but I just want to make sure I'm not missing something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoWolfpack View Post
    Hey riders....I purchased my New Gobling in 20" and like it a lot. I am 6-1 and 190 lbs. Maybe could have gone with the 18" but after riding other 18" hardtails---felt that would be too small.

    Nonetheless, I am looking to upgrade the seatpost and handlebar to carbon? Any suggestions as I am new to the carbon world! Thanks much in advance.
    At 6'1", unless you have some odd body proportions I would have recommended a 20" so I definitely think you bought the correct size. I'm the same height and that's the size Goblin that I ride.

    I've been digging the FSA SLK carbon stuff lately. I've been riding their seatpost and low-rise riser bars and love them. The bend on the bars is perfect and made this old-school flat-bar guy a believer in low-rise riser bars. They also make them in flat format as well.

    I'm thinking about a lighter/wider bar, and a lighter seatpost... Probably a Thomson Elite because I like their clamping mechanism and they look really nice.

    The one question I have is, is the stock Goblin seatpost considered a 'setback' post and if so, how much is the setback? I measured ~2 cm, so, if I want the same geometry, do I go with a 20 mm setback post? This is probably totally obvious, but I just want to make sure I'm not missing something.
    Yep, that's what you would want to buy, the 20mm setback Thomson post. I also like Thomson stuff a lot; I've got their 410mm post on my personal HobGoblin and its been bullet-proof. I like how they butted the post (more material in the front and back and less on the sides). And honestly the alu Thomson post is about as light as many cheaper carbon posts on the market. The only thing it doesn't do as well as a carbon post is damp vibrations, but for a lot of folks that isn't what they are looking for anyway.

    Hope that helps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    Yep, that's what you would want to buy, the 20mm setback Thomson post. I also like Thomson stuff a lot; I've got their 410mm post on my personal HobGoblin and its been bullet-proof. I like how they butted the post (more material in the front and back and less on the sides). And honestly the alu Thomson post is about as light as many cheaper carbon posts on the market. The only thing it doesn't do as well as a carbon post is damp vibrations, but for a lot of folks that isn't what they are looking for anyway.

    Hope that helps!

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    As always, very helpful. Thanks Jeremy! Yeah, the aluminum Thomson posts are very light. I'll be picking up one of those posts in the near future... First things first... I have a set of Mavic Crossride ST wheels on order for my Goblin that I'm really stoked about. I'll be sure to post a pic on the modified Airborne bikes thread once they're on.

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    I'm assuming there won't be pedals with the Goblin XO; recommend a good platform pedal for it?

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    I like my Wellgo MG-1's. Can be found for about $40 online and they're really grippy and light. I think the green ones would look awesome on the Goblin XO. Or the gold ones if you want to accent the XO bits.

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    I have some white MG-1s on my green Goblin and they're smooth and grippy.

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    Anybody know if the Geax AKA tires on my goblin are compatible with Stans ZTR Crest tubeless wheels?

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    Anybody know if the Geax AKA tires on my goblin are compatible with Stans ZTR Crest tubeless wheels?
    They should I used them on my Black Flag wheels pretty much same set up as the Stans...no problems at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXTony View Post
    They should I used them on my Black Flag wheels pretty much same set up as the Stans...no problems at all
    +1 I ride Charger Pros with AKAs, no problem, they are Stans BST type wheels too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXTony View Post
    They should I used them on my Black Flag wheels pretty much same set up as the Stans...no problems at all
    Quote Originally Posted by swildnm View Post
    +1 I ride Charger Pros with AKAs, no problem, they are Stans BST type wheels too.
    Thanks, looked like they were according to Stan's site. Just wanted to make sure.

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    So this weekend I put on a carbon handlebar I purchased from Nashbar:

    Nashbar CF-250 Carbon Riser Bars - Normal Shipping Ground[Ljava.lang.String;@2ad12ad1#ReviewHeader

    It made a nice difference of the standard handlebar and I like the low rise of it. I am 6-1 and love my Large (20") size Goblin, but wondered if it was a tad too big. After installing the low rise bar AND moving the saddle rails forward in the seatpost, I see a big difference. Very happy now.

    I am now looking for a carbon seatpost. Thanks everybody for ideas and opinions.

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    Just thought i would let future Goblin owners know what they could face if left untouched. Real bad cable rub on my nice fork.This was about after a weeks worth of riding. I read about the cables being cut to long, but thought it would be fine. Well i re-routed and shortened both shifter cables and set them up so they route to the opposite side of the frame like my Trek. The hydraulic lines seem to be fine. Had to touch up the spots with black nail polish.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenkeep View Post
    Just thought i would let future Goblin owners know what they could face if left untouched. Real bad cable rub on my nice fork.This was about after a weeks worth of riding. I read about the cables being cut to long, but thought it would be fine. Well i re-routed and shortened both shifter cables and set them up so they route to the opposite side of the frame like my Trek. The hydraulic lines seem to be fine. Had to touch up the spots with black nail polish.
    Can you show us a picture of what you mean by routing to the opposite side of the frame? I'm fighting this too.

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    If you look at your bike from the front you will notice that the shifter cables are routed down the the same side of the frame. This is causing excessive rubbing. What you want to do is criss-cross the cables. Looking from the front-

    Left shifter to right side of frame
    Right Shifter to left side of frame

    You should start by adjusting your brake levers and shifter to exactly where you like them first. Then disconnect the shifter cables at the front and rear derailleure by loosening the securing bolts. Remove the cables. You will then need to remove a little excess length (approx 2.5 in) from each of the shifter cable closest the shifter (the longer ones). The smaller sections toward the rear need just a touch nipped off. I also used a couple pieces of clear packing tape where the cables hit the head tube and where the top and down tube are. The goal is to leave just enough slack so the handle bars can do a full 180 (just in case of accidents). I will post some pics soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenkeep View Post
    If you look at your bike from the front you will notice that the shifter cables are routed down the the same side of the frame. This if causing excessive rubbing. What you want to do is criss-cross the cables. Looking from the front-

    Left shifter to right side of frame
    Right Shifter to left side of frame

    You should start by adjusting your brake levers and shifter to exactly where you like them first. Then disconnect the shifter cables at the front and rear derailleure by loosening the securing bolts. Remove the cables. You will then need to remove a little excess length (approx 2.5 in) from each of the shifter cable closest the shifter (the longer ones). The smaller sections toward the rear need just a touch nipped off. I also used a couple pieces of clear packing tape where the cables hit the head tube and where the top and down tube are. The goal is to leave just enough slack so the handle bars can do a full 180 (just in case of accidents). I will post some pics soon
    Thanks. I'll try that.

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    When u cut the excess it gives a cleaner look and keeps the cable off the shock. My Trek had really good routing so i used that as my guide. What they did made sense and minimizes wear on the frame. The brake lines are a little long but will do. They are not as big an issue as the two shift cables. Don' forget to cut off the excess cable at the derailleur's. Airborne should have supplied you with two butt ends to terminate the bare wire with your bike. Hope this helps.





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    Thanks again. I've got a cable cutter on order. Then I'll launch into doing the same.

    Looks a lot cleaner too, by the way.

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    I think I've adressed the "long" cables on here before, but in case someone missed it:

    The cables are the length they are based on the length needed if someone runs a long, positive stem in the upward position, also allowing for the bars to spin 180degrees in a crash without kinking the cable. What we don't want is a customer to buy a bike with cables too short for their needed fit set-up or style.

    Every size has different length cable sets due to different TT, and in the case of the XL size, HT lengths.

    Thanks.
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    Thanks Jeremy, but i will have to say even with a 120mm stem with a steep rise the cables would still be excessive. Aside from that the routing of the cables are incorrect. Not a big deal but left uncorrected the result will be like my pics above. Great bike none the less!

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    Thanks for your kind words about the bike!

    I have to respectfully disagree on the cable routing. If the cables were routed the way that you would like, they would cross each other at the hydro cable and there will be extra friction in the system. It is not the recommended routing, and doubtful that your Trek was routed that way at the factory.

    More than likely your shop did that prior to purchase, as that is an old-school roadbike shift cable routing trick. However the roadbikes don't have a hydro cable running between them on the DT.

    I hope that makes sense.

    It's a no-win situation on the cable lengths. If we made them the length you want, someone would complain that they are too short when they put a long upward stem and wide riser bars on their bike. Better to put a little extra on there and let people personalize their lengths if they see fit.

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    Not to beat a dead horse(well maybe,ahah) The stock cable routing has both the rear hydro and rear derailleur lines going down the same side of the frame. Right away they are pushed against (quite firmly) the top portion of the fork. Each turn of the handle bars creates friction, so much so that the cables were actually cutting into the aluminum. Even if you kept the routing the same and changed over to a higher rise stem it would still hit because of excess cable. My daughters Trek is routed like the Goblin and it works in that bikes case because the handle bar has a very large rise allowing enough room for the cable to make the bend leaving enough room without touching the head tube much. Also the cable retainers on her bike are on the upper side portion of the down tube, not directly under the head tube at the crotch like on the Goblin.

    The front hydro line is ok and is not really an issue despite IMO being a little to long as well. The issue's are really just the other three lines. I think leaving the extra room is a great idea so you will not be limited when customizing the bike to your liking but i also think that the cable length is to long for the bike as it stands stock. Might be worth noting to customers that modification might be necessary and explain. Also i feel the added length may also be needed for shipping purposes(just an idea)The bike is beautiful and the last thing you want to see is damage like my above pictures with very little use. The fork alone is 400+.

    Also as side note, think about this if the cable is curved 180 degrees going down the same side of the frame every turn of the handlebar in the same direction will send the cable or cables into the head tube. Opposite routing will allow the cables to hang freely and when turning in the opposite direction will give room for the cable and push it out away from the frame and gently graze the head tube turning in the same direction. Just a thought
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    When we shuttle and ride parks on the DH bikes, the frames are subject to a similar sort of wear by consistent rubbing (racks on the lifts, tailgate bed, etc.). Frames are subject to all kinds of wear, cables or whatever. Look where the cables go inside the frame - anywhere where there is brief contact, there will be wear over time - regardless of cable routing.

    Lizard Skins makes a vinyl patches in various sizes that are great for protecting frames/parts from this very issue. We use it on our DH bikes to protect from wear as mentioned - I'm sure you can get off-brands, or even some other vinyl or poly-plastic thing sold for a completely different use. Using in on my Hobgoblin this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhazard View Post
    When we shuttle and ride parks on the DH bikes, the frames are subject to a similar sort of wear by consistent rubbing (racks on the lifts, tailgate bed, etc.). Frames are subject to all kinds of wear, cables or whatever. Look where the cables go inside the frame - anywhere where there is brief contact, there will be wear over time - regardless of cable routing.

    Lizard Skins makes a vinyl patches in various sizes that are great for protecting frames/parts from this very issue. We use it on our DH bikes to protect from wear as mentioned - I'm sure you can get off-brands, or even some other vinyl or poly-plastic thing sold for a completely different use. Using in on my Hobgoblin this week.

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    Understood, yes this is normal for bikes. I have had several bikes and this was the first time i noticed anything like this. The cables were actually cutting into the fork, the lines almost lost enough insulation exposing the wire in the cable housing. On top of that the hydro line could have burst as well or leaked. This is not normal wear but poor routing and I have had the bike only week. I'm not trying to be a PITA, just trying to help make a great product that much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenkeep View Post
    When u cut the excess it gives a cleaner look and keeps the cable off the shock. My Trek had really good routing so i used that as my guide. What they did made sense and minimizes wear on the frame. The brake lines are a little long but will do. They are not as big an issue as the two shift cables. Don' forget to cut off the excess cable at the derailleur's. Airborne should have supplied you with two butt ends to terminate the bare wire with your bike. Hope this helps.




    FWIW, I have two Goblin's (Green and the new one) and set the Green up that way after fighting with it for a while, but it's been that way for nearly a year. The new Goblin has been set up that why from day one and I was a pre-order for those. I've had no problems and it actually shifts better than it did stock.

    I certainly understand no being able to please everyone, but I would expect it to match up more closely stock. It's not a big deal to me as by the second go round, I chucked the stock cables during the inital setup, but not everyone would consider shortening them part of the out of box setup. Unless someone is looking mount the shifters on a set of tri bars, lopping a few inches off of all the cables makes the most sense.
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    BDF, absolutely no offense intended. You know you guys rock and if it was raining money, someone would complain theirs was dirty.

    Greenkeep, after reading this again this morning while less tired, I wanted to clarify. I do NOT have the bare shift cables crossing under the top tube. I have the housing going to their original locations and the housings crossing right behind the head tube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TreeKiller View Post
    BDF, absolutely no offense intended. You know you guys rock and if it was raining money, someone would complain theirs was dirty.

    Greenkeep, after reading this again this morning while less tired, I wanted to clarify. I do NOT have the bare shift cables crossing under the top tube. I have the housing going to their original locations and the housings crossing right behind the head tube.
    Same here, here is some links for some better pics of what i actually did just so there is no confusion.

    BTW-The hydro line is not touching the fork(just looks like it, it's suspended in air)

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    Greenkeep,lovin your Goblin! Seems like an AWESOME deal. I have a 2013 Stumpjumper FSR Comp 29 but really want a hard tail again. I have my eye on this one but no funds currently. I figure if I pester the wife long enough she'll give in Enjoy the ride

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    Hey guys,
    So I just bought a new 20" black goblin and I'm loving it so far. So much nicer than my hardrock sport disc 29er! Anyways, I feel like the frame is a bit too large for me. The standover height is fine, I have about an inch of clearance to my crotch, but I feel like my arms a little far away and stretched out. I moved the seat all the way forward (while still angling flat), but its not enough.

    I was thinking about buying a new stem. It came with a 105mm stem, I was thinking of an 80 or 90 mm. What do you guys think? I'm 6' and 180-185 lbs.

    This ok: Easton EA50 Stem 2011 at Price Point ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuppie View Post
    Hey guys,
    So I just bought a new 20" black goblin and I'm loving it so far. So much nicer than my hardrock sport disc 29er! Anyways, I feel like the frame is a bit too large for me. The standover height is fine, I have about an inch of clearance to my crotch, but I feel like my arms a little far away and stretched out. I moved the seat all the way forward (while still angling flat), but its not enough.

    I was thinking about buying a new stem. It came with a 105mm stem, I was thinking of an 80 or 90 mm. What do you guys think? I'm 6' and 180-185 lbs.

    This ok: Easton EA50 Stem 2011 at Price Point ?
    That stem should work fine and at a pretty good price. If you want more bling after you are sure of the size you could always replace it. FWIW, I'm 5'10.11 and ride a 20" Goblin and just went to an 80mm stem. 20mm was noticable but not dramatic. I rode it with a 100mm stem for year but my back started bothering me on rides over 2 hrs.
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    Do both of you wish you had gone with the 18" frame?

    A while back I posted my measurements and I think Jeremy recommended the 18" (I'm 6' as well), I was thinking I would need the 20" as well but he had me second guessing. I'm still a couple months away from buying so I guess I'll have everything figured out by then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panicstop View Post
    Greenkeep,lovin your Goblin! Seems like an AWESOME deal. I have a 2013 Stumpjumper FSR Comp 29 but really want a hard tail again. I have my eye on this one but no funds currently. I figure if I pester the wife long enough she'll give in Enjoy the ride
    Thanks, you will really enjoy the bike. It rides real nice, going out today after all the rain here in NY for a 13.5 mile trail ride.

    Also on a side note: I re-did the tubeless conversion because i realized my tires were not seated evenly on the rim using Stan's strips.I just went with Gorilla tape and American Classic Stems. Beads popped in nice and rides much better. If you go with the strips you will have to build up the rim channel on the WTB i19 rim due to its depth. Might have to use foam weatherstripping.

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    Is there a link I can read about this gorilla tape method? Or is it just replacing stans tape with gorilla tape?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trevor_b View Post
    Do both of you wish you had gone with the 18" frame?

    A while back I posted my measurements and I think Jeremy recommended the 18" (I'm 6' as well), I was thinking I would need the 20" as well but he had me second guessing. I'm still a couple months away from buying so I guess I'll have everything figured out by then.
    I am glad I didn't go with an 18. I have had 18/18.5" bikes in the past and prefer a larger bike. However, it's not all about how tall you are. I'm ~5' 10" and my son is ~6' 2" but have the exact same leg length. This should push me even more to an 18" but I've never been able to get comfortable on that size. It's so subjective that I would go sit on a couple of comparable bikes of each size and see what feels best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TreeKiller View Post
    I am glad I didn't go with an 18. I have had 18/18.5" bikes in the past and prefer a larger bike. However, it's not all about how tall you are. I'm ~5' 10" and my son is ~6' 2" but have the exact same leg length. This should push me even more to an 18" but I've never been able to get comfortable on that size. It's so subjective that I would go sit on a couple of comparable bikes of each size and see what feels best.
    My inseam is 34", using the multiply by .67 and subtract 4 formula this puts me at a 19" frame. My arms are a little longer than most people's so I went with the 20" frame instead of the 18". I've only ridden once, and I felt a little stretched out. I ordered an 80 mm stem today, so I'm hoping that solves the problem. I'll reserve final judgement until it gets here and I try it out, but I think I would've felt cramped on an 18" and I'd rather have a shorter stem than longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trevor_b View Post
    Is there a link I can read about this gorilla tape method? Or is it just replacing stans tape with gorilla tape?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stuppie View Post
    My inseam is 34", using the multiply by .67 and subtract 4 formula this puts me at a 19" frame. My arms are a little longer than most people's so I went with the 20" frame instead of the 18". I've only ridden once, and I felt a little stretched out. I ordered an 80 mm stem today, so I'm hoping that solves the problem. I'll reserve final judgement until it gets here and I try it out, but I think I would've felt cramped on an 18" and I'd rather have a shorter stem than longer.
    Lol. Now I'm rethinking what frame I will be getting. I was set on the 18 now im thinking 20. I'm 6' with a 34" inseam also.

    Any ideas on comparable bikes that I could get on? There's a specialized dealer in town and I was thinking the carve comp would be a good one. Any others?

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    Trevor, where are you located? Are you close to us?
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    Jeremy, not close to you guys. I'm in Texas, just north of Austin.

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    Jeremy, not close to you guys. I'm in Texas, just north of Austin.
    Trevor if you ever head up to the Fort Worth area PM me...I have a 18 inch Goblin you can check out to see how the fit is...I am 5'11.

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    Trevor, if you make it down to SA I have a 20" you can take for a spin.

    Never mind... It's a 22"

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    Quote Originally Posted by TXTony View Post
    Trevor if you ever head up to the Fort Worth area PM me...I have a 18 inch Goblin you can check out to see how the fit is...I am 5'11.
    OK, thanks. What's your inseam? Normal length legs and arms for your height?

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    Never measured my arms...inseam is 34...I am one of those that can ride a med or large frame...I prefer med frame bikes vs large..I have 4 other mountain bikes and they are all med frame bikes...I usually run a 90mm stem except my all mountain rig where I am running a 70mm stem..

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    What's your reasoning behind riding medium vs large frames? Able to maneuver better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trevor_b View Post
    What's your reasoning behind riding medium vs large frames? Able to maneuver better?
    Yep...even though I could ride a large the med fits me better as far as 26ers go...the Goblin is my first 29er and I can tell from the fit of this bike that the next size up would have been to big...but when I got my Moto (26er six inch travel bike) I could have rode either but liked how I could toss around the medium one better...so it pretty much came down to personal preference as to what I like and how I am going to ride that particular bike.

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    Tony, do you do any long riding on rocky/technical terrain? The trail closest to my house is a 26 mile loop that's fairly rocky and technical. I just want to make sure I'm comfortable and don't get lower back pain if I were to do the whole loop. I also go to a trail that is pretty much fast and flowy single track though so the right size bike would be ideal for handling that diversity if possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trevor_b View Post
    Tony, do you do any long riding on rocky/technical terrain? The trail closest to my house is a 26 mile loop that's fairly rocky and technical. I just want to make sure I'm comfortable and don't get lower back pain if I were to do the whole loop. I also go to a trail that is pretty much fast and flowy single track though so the right size bike would be ideal for handling that diversity if possible.

    Yep we ride a variety of trails up here...and some long rides on the bike...it really shines on flowy hard pack type trails...have done a few rides on it that are near 30 miles...I will say as far as techy stuff any hard tail 26 or 29er is gonna be a little rougher than a full susp. rig...I have a buddy up here who rides a 18 Goblin as well and he has no issues either on the rocky stuff...but to be honest when the trails get rough I grab my FS rig..my buddy is 5 feet 11 also and rides a 18 inch as well..I also prefer the handling of a med frame vs a large frame for a person my height...but that is strictly personal preference...I know guys shorter than me who prefer large frames and ride them great...I think find a few 29er HTs and just sit on them and see how they feel..the geo may not be exact but it will give you an idea at least...I will say the Goblin has been one of the best bike purchases I have made in a while and as soon as I see the new Taka or replacement for it I may scoop one of those up...

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    Just ordered a set of these: Wellgo MG 1 Magnesium Pedals MTB DH BMX Flat Cage Green | eBay I know it's a popular pedal but I haven't seen them in green before. The green looks like a perfect match for the green on my black Goblin. Anyone else using them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeinMinn View Post
    Just ordered a set of these: Wellgo MG 1 Magnesium Pedals MTB DH BMX Flat Cage Green | eBay I know it's a popular pedal but I haven't seen them in green before. The green looks like a perfect match for the green on my black Goblin. Anyone else using them?
    I used to have a set of white ones that I loved but I loaned them to a friend for a DH run last year and he smacked a rock with one....and it basically exploded into several pieces.

    I realize that they aren't intended for DH so take that for what its worth. Probably for normal XC riding they are prefectly fine. They are nice and light and the pins offer a lot of grip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    I used to have a set of white ones that I loved but I loaned them to a friend for a DH run last year and he smacked a rock with one....and it basically exploded into several pieces.

    I realize that they aren't intended for DH so take that for what its worth. Probably for normal XC riding they are prefectly fine. They are nice and light and the pins offer a lot of grip.

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    Yeah, I had heard that about them. Getting a titanium spindle makes them even more delicate. But they are pretty cheap to replace compared to some of the other options out there. Plus, if I'm doing some DH, I'll just bolt on some of my other pedals. I really just wanted a fairly light pedal for XC that was pinned and came in the right color. This seems to fit the bill. We'll see...

    What pedals do you run now BDF?
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