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    Excited for Airborne

    I've been following Airborne for awhile now. Almost took the plunge on an XO Hobgoblin last year but the travel wasn't quite what I was wanting.

    LOVE the Toxin as I've been looking at either a new bike to replace my hardtail or a second DH exclusive bike for Park duty and throw a nicer fork on the hardtail for the majority of my riding.

    Then I saw this:
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    Which might be the perfect fit. Of still being able to get around on the local trails and have fun on the weekends at the park. So what's the ETA on more info on this beast?

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    Excited for Airborne

    Nice. I bet there is this one guy that will comment on this bike thread *****ing about the price of the pathogen frame.

    Am I the only one that thinks the top tube looks strange??

    I know it's a proto so it's no biggie. But is seems really long.

    It would be nice to see another enduro bike on the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbw View Post
    I've been following Airborne for awhile now. Almost took the plunge on an XO Hobgoblin last year but the travel wasn't quite what I was wanting.

    LOVE the Toxin as I've been looking at either a new bike to replace my hardtail or a second DH exclusive bike for Park duty and throw a nicer fork on the hardtail for the majority of my riding.

    Then I saw this:
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    Which might be the perfect fit. Of still being able to get around on the local trails and have fun on the weekends at the park. So what's the ETA on more info on this beast?
    Nice! Where did you find this picture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeinMinn View Post
    Nice! Where did you find this picture?
    It was in the All Mountain Picture thread. Prototype so no other info but looks super promising.

    Here's a link: Let's see those AM setups

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    At this time we can't divulge any more info in regards to the AM project.

    We are in the test-riding phase on two different wheel sizes.

    No ETA on release date and no ETA on complete bike spec info.

    I happen to like the top tube, it looks great in person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    At this time we can't divulge any more info in regards to the AM project.

    We are in the test-riding phase on two different wheel sizes.

    No ETA on release date and no ETA on complete bike spec info.

    I happen to like the top tube, it looks great in person.

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    I volunteer to help test out here in CO Pretty pumped. Hope to hear more before the upcoming season. *fingers crossed*

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    I saw it before but didn't want to start a new thread since I knew it was still in prototype phase. I'll definitely wait until it is finished before I pull the tigger on a new trail/all mountain bike or whatever is the latest catch phrase it.

    - I also like the top tube, a good looking bike on top of being a good bike is always a plus
    - I love the horst-link type suspension
    - The different color pivots look cool
    - The long top tube short stem is good too. Ive ridden bikes with similiar setups, read reviews, and this seems to be the latest in "modern" geometrys. The Kona Process has all the rave reviews about its geo.
    - Pike has been getting a bunch of awards lately. Hopefully on final spec.
    - I won't argue wheel size on performance since the whole package matters most. But I would lean towards 27.5 because from what I've heard 26 sales aren't that great. Also as a user I would be worried about available of tire choices in the future.
    - I can't see the BB but I would prefer GXP BSA since it is so easy to work on at home.

    Overall, it looks wicked and can't wait to see final product. I think Airborne has another hit on their hands.

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    I like it a lot. Two things jump out at me. The shock has appears to have a very short stroke for an AM bike. Must have a very high leverage ratio. And it the Geo looks pretty slack, which is exactly what I am looking for. Hope this is available by this time next year.

    Side note: I think 26'' bike sales are down because high end models are pretty much extinct. From all the people I know, and poles I have come across, there is still a big market for 26'' bikes, just no availability on bikes worth buying. That said, I have wanted to try a 650b bike for a while...

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    For now the BB shell is a BSA (threaded). No plans to change it.

    We are testing both 26 and 27.5 and *may* end up producing both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    For now the BB shell is a BSA (threaded). No plans to change it.


    - If those are the Hayes Prime Pros, I reallly like those as well. I have Hayes brakes and they're easy to bleed, have plenty of power, and love the adjustability. Like them way better than the Avids for sure.
    - Having the Monarch PLUS is great as well, should greatly improve rear suspension performance.

    The bike looks spot on!!!

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    That is one sweet looking trail ripping air catching get the crap out of my way looking rig!

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    Thats thing looks a lot like a Trance, sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyTx View Post
    That is one sweet looking trail ripping air catching get the crap out of my way looking rig!
    LOL Tony...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyTx View Post
    That is one sweet looking trail ripping air catching get the crap out of my way looking rig!
    Really trying to make sure the bases are covered....








    ... not getting how it looks like a Trance though. I think it's fairly unique - which is tough in the current field of AM machines.
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    Airborne - My vote
    Stick with threaded BBs!!!!
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    It looks nothing like a trance. The front triangle is completely different, and the rear triangle has pivots at the drop outs where a trance has no pivots on the rear triangle at all, and instead uses a link(mastro link) connecting the rear triangle to the frame, making a trance a VPP(virtual pivot point for the newbs out there). The pivots on the chainstay mean no link and it will be a regular single pivot design. Not even close to the design of a Trance other than similar looking rocker arms, which is used by many manufactures because its a great way to control leverage ratios in an efficient way.

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    Hey Jerry - feel free to bring that rig up to the four corners for a complete test! Just don't forget to invite me... Great looking pics!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhazard View Post
    Really trying to make sure the bases are covered....








    ... not getting how it looks like a Trance though. I think it's fairly unique - which is tough in the current field of AM machines.
    Amen!

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    Re: Excited for Airborne

    Quote Originally Posted by musikron View Post
    Thats thing looks a lot like a Trance, sweet.






    Stop trolling, dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by s0ul_chicken View Post
    Hey Jerry - feel free to bring that rig up to the four corners for a complete test! Just don't forget to invite me... Great looking pics!
    My wife still works shifts in Farmington, so that's a very distinct possibility. We'll see how her schedule and my weekends fall as summer approaches. Would love to hook up and ride Alien or Phil's. Or Barker!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhazard View Post
    Really trying to make sure the bases are covered....








    ... not getting how it looks like a Trance though. I think it's fairly unique - which is tough in the current field of AM machines.
    Keep the pictures coming! haha tease away!

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    Glad you guys like it so far.

    I just want to re-state that spec is TBD. The parts you see on our test rigs are generally what we put on there for personal preference as individuals evaluating primarily the frame.

    This is true of any protos of ours that you may see photos of, like last year when I put up photos of the my personal Goblin Evolution proto (that no one noticed ) that was decked out in X0 and other bits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    Glad you guys like it so far.

    I just want to re-state that spec is TBD. The parts you see on our test rigs are generally what we put on there for personal preference as individuals evaluating primarily the frame.

    This is true of any protos of ours that you may see photos of, like last year when I put up photos of the my personal Goblin Evolution proto (that no one noticed ) that was decked out in X0 and other bits.

    Thanks!

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    Can you re-post it so we can see what we missed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    Glad you guys like it so far.

    I just want to re-state that spec is TBD. The parts you see on our test rigs are generally what we put on there for personal preference as individuals evaluating primarily the frame.

    This is true of any protos of ours that you may see photos of, like last year when I put up photos of the my personal Goblin Evolution proto (that no one noticed ) that was decked out in X0 and other bits.

    Thanks!

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    Understood, just wanted to give you guys props based on whats in the pics. I'm sure the final spec will be in line with Airborne performance versus price, and provide good value compared to other brands. Frame looks excellent...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8iking VIIking View Post







    Stop trolling, dude

    Thanks for making my point for me. No these are not carbon copies, but to my eye, I see a lot of similarities, top tube, HTA, upper linkage. I would say these bikes are more alike than different. And just because I am not a sycophant does not make me a troll. I have damn near bought 2 Airbornes, but the fact I could not check it out in person and that there is no after sale service swayed me to a LBS purchase. I still like the damn things so get off my back.

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    They're both AM bikes, how different can they look?

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    It looks more like a Slash than a trance. And that is a good thing!

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    Can we get a group hug?

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    Quote Originally Posted by musikron View Post
    Thanks for making my point for me. No these are not carbon copies, but to my eye, I see a lot of similarities, top tube, HTA, upper linkage. I would say these bikes are more alike than different. And just because I am not a sycophant does not make me a troll. I have damn near bought 2 Airbornes, but the fact I could not check it out in person and that there is no after sale service swayed me to a LBS purchase. I still like the damn things so get off my back.

    They are almost nothing alike other then the rocker arms. Read my previous post, the suspension designs are not even remotely similar. By your eye, there are 5-10 bikes that are alike, just because they have rocker arms and and a bend in the top tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    Can we get a group hug?

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    Holy Crapsicle you guys have some cool stuff !

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    ....hawt... jhazard, if I make it to ABQ this summer ya gotta set one of these aside for me to ride
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    Hoping the 27.5 gets the green light. If so, this is the bike I've been holding out for from Airborne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cazman72 View Post
    Hoping the 27.5 gets the green light. If so, this is the bike I've been holding out for from Airborne.
    I concur.

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    damn...now I wish I had waited on getting my Seeker...thought its a sick bike as well!

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    I've been waiting for something like that from Airborne also, preferably 27.5". Will it come as the frame only or built up? Or both? I would rather build one up myself. It looks great!

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    I can't get this bike out of my head.... I need info! Specs? Possible production time?
    I have been waiting for an all-mountain model....please keep this thread alive!

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    I'm not trying to sound like a dick, so please don't take it that way, but I've stated already there's no further info to be given. We are in the test-riding and exploratory phase. When/if we go to production is unknown and its not even certain production would exactly resemble the photos that were leaked.

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    Hey, no problem. I completely understand....just excited and I let it get the best of me...I didn't mean to sound annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CDM88 View Post
    Hey, no problem. I completely understand....just excited and I let it get the best of me...I didn't mean to sound annoying.
    I'm with ya. I just wanted to get some hype started so they could see the want for an all mountain model. Not sure what the average turn around is from testing phase to production so here's to hoping it's not terribly long.

    This proto looks along the lines of the bikes in my list of considerations which is why I got excited. Looking at demoing the Niner WFO and Kona Process in the near future to help narrow down my wants/needs. My next purchase will probably be June so I just hope a little info gets out before then.

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    Sorry, there won't be any info before June.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    Sorry, there won't be any info before June.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    For now the BB shell is a BSA (threaded). No plans to change it.

    We are testing both 26 and 27.5 and *may* end up producing both.

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    Dang, my bday is in June and was hoping this would be the present to myself.
    Just an example but, the way the Process is selling out and on their 2nd production run I'd think this would be a no-brainer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cazman72 View Post
    Dang, my bday is in June and was hoping this would be the present to myself.
    Just an example but, the way the Process is selling out and on their 2nd production run I'd think this would be a no-brainer.
    Considering we just started ride-testing these in December.............June is really, really, really (really) unrealistic. Proper development time, if mostly everything goes correctly, is generally 14-18 months. Our lead times for parts orders for production is 120-150 days for most vendors. So June would have only been a possibility of we (irresponsibly) decided as soon as we built one up that we liked it and decided to make production as-is with no changes and no ride time (and no EN14766 testing). That's not practical and not the way we do things. We don't put untried, untested things out there on the public. I always like to say that "we are bike guys first and businessmen second", and being bike guys we don't want our name on something that we don't feel 100% good and certain about. If we were just businessmen churning out a ton of SKU's and slapping our name on everything maybe that would be different.

    I hope that you appreciate my thoughts and have a better understanding of how things work behind the scenes. I appreciate that everyone is excited about this model but I have to be the level-headed voice of reason when it comes to these sort of things. In hindsight I kinda wish these detailed photos didn't get out there but what's done can't be undone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    Considering we just started ride-testing these in December.............June is really, really, really (really) unrealistic. Proper development time, if mostly everything goes correctly, is generally 14-18 months. Our lead times for parts orders for production is 120-150 days for most vendors. So June would have only been a possibility of we (irresponsibly) decided as soon as we built one up that we liked it and decided to make production as-is with no changes and no ride time (and no EN14766 testing). That's not practical and not the way we do things. We don't put untried, untested things out there on the public. I always like to say that "we are bike guys first and businessmen second", and being bike guys we don't want our name on something that we don't feel 100% good and certain about. If we were just businessmen churning out a ton of SKU's and slapping our name on everything maybe that would be different.

    I hope that you appreciate my thoughts and have a better understanding of how things work behind the scenes. I appreciate that everyone is excited about this model but I have to be the level-headed voice of reason when it comes to these sort of things. In hindsight I kinda wish these detailed photos didn't get out there but what's done can't be undone.

    Thanks,

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    LOL~!

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