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    Airborne HobGoblin?

    Hey Everyone,

    Finally I can post a new thread since losing my complete "newbie" status!

    Just curious, I've been in the market for a new 29" mountain bike for awhile. I was originally drawn to the Airborne Goblin based on the value proposition. However, since I currently ride a full suspension bike (albeit ANCIENT at ~12 years old), I've decided I want to spend the $ on a full suspension bike.

    I recently learned of the upcoming HobGoblin and it intrigues me. I guess it is going to start off at ~$1700 with X7 components. That seems to be a great value.

    I've searched these forums and I'm surprised at how little info I've been able to dig up. I *think* the HobGoblin is supposed to arrive sometime in September.

    Anyone else out there have any info for us anxiously waiting?

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    Due to component supply issues we are forced to push the HobGoblin availability back to October. Soon we will have the HobGoblin webpage up with info, photos, and a pre-order offer. Sorry about the delay!
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    Is there a time frame for a web page on the additional 7000 series tube bike(s) you have mentioned.

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    The HobGoblin (4" travel XC 92er) and the Toxin (7" travel FR/Park bike) are the two newest models that use 7000 series tubing, Both of them are due for October delivery.

    We are also doing XO and Frame-only version of the HobGoblin and Goblin bikes, and a frame-only of the Toxin. All are for October delivery so look for a webpage for all of that soon!
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    BigDaddyFlyer- much appreciate the update! Looking forward to hearing more about this model soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    The HobGoblin (4" travel XC 92er) and the Toxin (7" travel FR/Park bike) are the two newest models that use 7000 series tubing, Both of them are due for October delivery.

    We are also doing XO and Frame-only version of the HobGoblin and Goblin bikes, and a frame-only of the Toxin. All are for October delivery so look for a webpage for all of that soon!
    What is the difference with the 7000 series tubing?

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    Very cool to hear about these new 4" and 7" travel options. Can't wait to see the catalog pages.

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    I'm pretty interested in the Hobgoblin as my first FS bike. There's a different model I have my sights set on, but I won't get it until October if I order now. Either way, it'll be a month wait for me to get one or the other. Argh. Decisions.....

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    I am intrigued!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    The HobGoblin (4" travel XC 92er) and the Toxin (7" travel FR/Park bike) are the two newest models that use 7000 series tubing, Both of them are due for October delivery.

    We are also doing XO and Frame-only version of the HobGoblin and Goblin bikes, and a frame-only of the Toxin. All are for October delivery so look for a webpage for all of that soon!
    Holy crap!!! A 92er!!! That'll roll over ANYTHING!! Woohoo!

    But it probably handles like a truck.... lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh View Post
    Holy crap!!! A 92er!!! That'll roll over ANYTHING!! Woohoo!
    LOL.

    Damn Lysdexia!
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    So I did a quick search on the 7000 aluminum...apparently it is stronger than 6061 and thus you can make lighter frames with it!

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    Looks somewhat like the Commencal and Mondraker suspension design. Always been curious how that setup rides.

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    Yeah, I was wondering when this would come up. I love the look of that bike, but have never been able to really test ride a FS out on the trail where it counts. I can't wait to see the options.

    Hey Airborne, how about a demo tour to Iowa....

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    Big daddy,

    any word on geometry for the hobgoblin? I am looking for more of a trail/am bike.. i am waiting patiently to send my money to airborne..

    any word on price for just frame/shock?

    maybe post more pics?

    im super eager to get one of these..

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    Hmm, yeah, a solid X7 FS bike starting at $1700? Tell me, what maner of brakes are on this bike. I'd love to see a full set of specs + geometry for it.

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    Thing is, looking at that setup I'd have to guess they're not going to be able to achieve anything close to short stays, i.e. 17.75" or under

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    Looks somewhat like the Commencal and Mondraker suspension design. Always been curious how that setup rides.
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    X7 with anything other that Avid brakes would be great.
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    Surprised there are no other updates on this HobGobin... Would really like to get more information on availability dates, costs, etc...

    Airborne...you gotta love social media...use it to ramp up your pre-orders by disseminating more info please!

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    bueller? hellllloooooo???? any more info on the hobgoblin?

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    Trust me if I could tell you (err........were allowed to tell you) more I would! Due to a couple supply issues running this close to production there are a few things about the spec, and therefor final price, that we can't put out yet in "print" because it may change. Its frustrating to wait...........

    In general the industry is hurting from supply issues because no one was prepared for the uptake in sales this past year. Many manufacturers and suppliers have been caught with their pants down. Whether it was due to mostly good riding weather in most of the US, people thinking there is an upturn in the economy, Generation X finding out its getting fat and needs to excercise, who knows?

    All I know is that it has made my life difficult as a product manager scrambling to find parts and make substitutions that dont change the origina price/design/function/timing parameters......

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    Trust me if I could tell you (err........were allowed to tell you) more I would! Due to a couple supply issues running this close to production there are a few things about the spec, and therefor final price, that we can't put out yet in "print" because it may change. Its frustrating to wait...........

    In general the industry is hurting from supply issues because no one was prepared for the uptake in sales this past year. Many manufacturers and suppliers have been caught with their pants down. Whether it was due to mostly good riding weather in most of the US, people thinking there is an upturn in the economy, Generation X finding out its getting fat and needs to excercise, who knows?

    All I know is that it has made my life difficult as a product manager scrambling to find parts and make substitutions that dont change the origina price/design/function/timing parameters......

    Jeremy
    Jeremy,

    I appreciate the honesty and info. Can you say approximate ETA on when this model will be released for sale? I.e. should I tell my wife this is what I want for Xmas?

    Thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovespicyfood View Post
    Jeremy,

    I appreciate the honesty and info. Can you say approximate ETA on when this model will be released for sale? I.e. should I tell my wife this is what I want for Xmas?

    Thanks,
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    Hey Pete, you're welcome! We are shooting for production in mid-October and the bikes will be in the warehouse end of October or beginning of November.

    Thanks!

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    Jeremy, i understand about keeping a lid on the final build, but i assume geometry is already final? can we know about that? I'm not trying to be a weeny, but my farthest concern is components.. i am looking for frame details to see if this is my next bike... I am ready to pre order on launch day, provided the geo suits me.. any way to get on a mailing list for the info when it is available?

    im soooooo ready to get one of these!!! i want 1,221,313 more pictures!!!!

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    Any updates available on the HobGoblin? More pic's, rumors, lies, anything?

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    Still suffering here from supplier issues.

    I won't go into details as to whom the culprits are because I don't want to be "that guy". All I can say is that I'm watching production dates slip by as we are waiting. We are suffering from the same issues on the Toxin Freeride/Park bike as well.

    At this time I don't want to give any product details, even angles. As soon as we can give more info we will, thanks!

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    Looks like a great bike. Love the design. Would love to see the spec sheet and pricing for it when it's available. However, the Hobgoblin looks very similar to the Fezzari Hidden Peak 29er... Is Airborne affiliated with them? Either way I would love to demo one. I think the New Goblin is in the works for me soon.
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    Um, wow, looking at the drive side looks like the same frame, different paint/decals

    Quote Originally Posted by DBackRider08 View Post
    Looks like a great bike. Love the design. Would love to see the spec sheet and pricing for it when it's available. However, the Hobgoblin looks very similar to the Fezzari Hidden Peak 29er... Is Airborne affiliated with them? Either way I would love to demo one. I think the New Goblin is in the works for me soon.
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    Both frames are made by Kinesis, with changes to specifcations and angles for each. Airborne is NOT related to Fezzari in any way.
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    So, it's just a cookie cutter frame designed by them for whom ever wants to brand market it as theirs, interesting
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    Both frames are made by Kinesis, with changes to specifcations and angles for each. Airborne is NOT related to Fezzari in any way.
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    Hmmm that is interesting... Not that I have a neg view of Airborne since most bikes are made in China or Taiwan now anyway but I'm assuming the Goblin frame is sourced the same way too then? Looks like Kinesis makes lots of frames. I'm still interested in the Hobgoblin and the Goblin. Wish you guys could come out to the east coast(PA,NJ,NY,CT area) so I can demo your bikes. Look forward to seeing the final version of the Hobgoblin.

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    No, the Goblin is not made that same way. Frames like the Goblin, Guardian, Skyhawk, Delta, Wingman, etc are all 100% inhouse designs.

    That HobGoblin frame is the first one we have done by tweaking an open-source frame from Kinesis. The reason for this is that being small, we don't order great enough quantities to make minimums for respected companies like Kinesis to make wholesale brand new dual suspension designs for us. The tooling expense is in the many parts like pivot arms, etc. Until we can order thousands at a time on something like this we have to work with open-source dual frames and make a deal with Kinesis to modify them to our specifications.

    What this means in relation to the frame that Fezzari is using is that we have tweaked several parts including angles, lengths, and the seat-tube is different in regards to how it is made and pivot arm attachment. In a way it is still our design, at least our bike is. We also have put extensive test-riding hours into ours which has aided our development.

    I hope that makes sense, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    So, it's just a cookie cutter frame designed by them for whom ever wants to brand market it as theirs, interesting
    Nope, see my explanation above, thanks.
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    Thank you for the very detailed explanation. I think it's great that a rep is actually on the mtbr forums answering questions. Sometimes smaller companies like Airborne is much like a breathe of fresh air. So any updates for the Hobgoblin? Any chance of a demo fleet making it out to the east coast?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBackRider08 View Post
    Thank you for the very detailed explanation. I think it's great that a rep is actually on the mtbr forums answering questions. Sometimes smaller companies like Airborne is much like a breathe of fresh air. So any updates for the Hobgoblin? Any chance of a demo fleet making it out to the east coast?
    Thanks! I know it sounds like a broken record, but I don't have any update on the HobGoblin. We keep getting dates that then come and go. Right now we are at the mercy a supplier that keeps missing deadlines for parts and are past the point of being able to change to a different supplier due to current long industry lead times. I won't throw any company under the bus because that's not my style, but it is very frustrating.

    On a brighter note, we are looking at doing some more consumer-type events next year and one of them is the entire Gravity East DH series. If we do go, in addition to some DH rigs we will bring a few XC rigs for folks to check out.

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    Bummer. Hopefully everything comes into place and we will see the Hobgoblin released. Look forward to next season and hope to see ya guys out east.
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    That's a "Makes sense" type answer and totally understand, just thought you guys were big enough to do this sort of stuff on your own, didn't think you were a smaller company than say Banshee, Niner etc.

    Sounds like if you've got the right riders who know there thing to help with the design tweaking, you could have something good there, will be interesting to see what pricing is like and if there'll be a frame only option at some point. Wish you guys the world of luck sourcing/getting those parts, seems to be a major headache for anyone who isn't one of the "Big" boys right now.

    Oh and have to agree, good and smart to have a presence on an active MTB forum.

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    No, the Goblin is not made that same way. Frames like the Goblin, Guardian, Skyhawk, Delta, Wingman, etc are all 100% inhouse designs.

    That HobGoblin frame is the first one we have done by tweaking an open-source frame from Kinesis. The reason for this is that being small, we don't order great enough quantities to make minimums for respected companies like Kinesis to make wholesale brand new dual suspension designs for us. The tooling expense is in the many parts like pivot arms, etc. Until we can order thousands at a time on something like this we have to work with open-source dual frames and make a deal with Kinesis to modify them to our specifications.

    What this means in relation to the frame that Fezzari is using is that we have tweaked several parts including angles, lengths, and the seat-tube is different in regards to how it is made and pivot arm attachment. In a way it is still our design, at least our bike is. We also have put extensive test-riding hours into ours which has aided our development.

    I hope that makes sense, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    That's a "Makes sense" type answer and totally understand, just thought you guys were big enough to do this sort of stuff on your own, didn't think you were a smaller company than say Banshee, Niner etc.

    Sounds like if you've got the right riders who know there thing to help with the design tweaking, you could have something good there, will be interesting to see what pricing is like and if there'll be a frame only option at some point. Wish you guys the world of luck sourcing/getting those parts, seems to be a major headache for anyone who isn't one of the "Big" boys right now.

    Oh and have to agree, good and smart to have a presence on an active MTB forum.
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    My wife was going to get me the zeppelin elite for an anniversary gift, but my size wasnt available (19). So now i'll have to tell her about the hobgoblin. I just hope its budget friendly like your other bikes. If the hobgoblin is going to be around the price thats floating around on the internet I hope there is going to be a cheaper, slightly detuned version available... kinda like the guardian vs goblin.
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    Okay, I getting a bike in November (anniversary present), so hopefully before then we will get some more info on the HobGoblin. I have ridden 15 different trails so far this year (going on a bike trip this weekend so adding some more trails to that number) and I haven't seen one Airborne bike. So I will be basing my decision of possibly getting an Airborne on the numerous good reviews I have read. My lbs is trying to push a cannondale on me, but we will see which is better for me once the specs/pricing are release.

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    I'm debating between the New Goblin and the HobGoblin. This is for DigDaddyFlyer, do you recommend waiting for the HobGoblin? Without knowing the specs, its hard to make a decision right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by betorac View Post
    I'm debating between the New Goblin and the HobGoblin. This is for DigDaddyFlyer, do you recommend waiting for the HobGoblin? Without knowing the specs, its hard to make a decision right now.
    The HobGoblin will be available as a frameset and two complete builds: regular and XO.

    More or less, consider the regular build to be like the parts spec on the Goblin and the HobGoblin XO to be the same parts spec as the Goblin XO. Was that vague enough for ya?

    We finally have a build date of the second week in November for the HobGoblins.



    So that means they will be in stock and ready to ship the first or second week in December. We should be able to release a little more info in a few weeks time.

    Whether you should wait or not is a hard call. They are two similar bikes. We've mimmicked the angles of the current black Goblin for the HobGoblin so if you owned both switching back and forth is pretty seamless. I've been riding both for the past 6-7 months and love both bikes. The HobGoblin is my go-to bike when we are doing a longer ride or if I know its going to be rocky (like Brown County). If I'm doing a shorter ride or a smoother trail, I tend to bring the Goblin.

    Hope that helps a bit! And like I said, more info to come in the next few weeks!

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    Few more weeks for more info! This is torture!
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    That's awesome news and I look forward to seeing the Hobgoblin, definitely interested in it since body takes less of a beating with full sus. December? Just in time for my Xmas gift....

    Airborne has been receiving very positive reviews and great to see the manufacturer rep on the forum!

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    I'm very excited about the HobGoblin! Can you give us any further details about the components? Will the production models have the same color scheme as the prototype pictured?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    So, it's just a cookie cutter frame designed by them for whom ever wants to brand market it as theirs, interesting
    Don't kid yourself, even huge companies like Specialized outsources their frames. You want in house, handmade you will have to pay for it. Otherwise expect the made in China sticker.

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    Read more carefully and you'll realise I said they didn't DESIGN their frames from the ground up, nothing to do with where it's being produced and FYI, only really low end steel/alu frames are made in China, higher end ones are made in Taiwan, China does do high end carbon though.

    Quote Originally Posted by aikane View Post
    Don't kid yourself, even huge companies like Specialized outsources their frames. You want in house, handmade you will have to pay for it. Otherwise expect the made in China sticker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    and FYI, only really low end steel/alu frames are made in China, higher end ones are made in Taiwan, China does do high end carbon though.
    It did use to be that way, but times are different now.

    There are higher end alu frames made in mainland China. There are several companies that are making them there.
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    Excited to get pricing on this new HobGoblin! I've been seriously considering the Giant Trance 29er but it's a little pricey and would be a harder sell to the wife. Hoping the "entry level" HobGoblin presents a better value proposition...perhaps ~$2K instead of the ~$2.7K Giant I've been looking at...

    Moving to a new house in a few weeks doesn't help with all those associated costs but perhaps I can convince her it would make a good Xmas present!

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    Counting down the days...

    Jeremy,
    Can you comment on the pedaling efficiency of the Hobgoblin compared to the Goblin? Do you notice a big difference with losing energy as a result of pedal bob? Will the Hobgolin have a lockout?

    I currently have a high single pivot bike like your Zeppelin, and the pedaling performance is unsatisfactory. Hopefully switching to new Fox CTD shock will help. Especially concerned with long fire road climbs and out of saddle pedaling.

    thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by betorac View Post
    Counting down the days...

    Jeremy,
    Can you comment on the pedaling efficiency of the Hobgoblin compared to the Goblin? Do you notice a big difference with losing energy as a result of pedal bob? Will the Hobgolin have a lockout?

    I currently have a high single pivot bike like your Zeppelin, and the pedaling performance is unsatisfactory. Hopefully switching to new Fox CTD shock will help. Especially concerned with long fire road climbs and out of saddle pedaling.

    thanks.
    Have the same issue on my zeppelin elite

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    Yeah there is no comparison between pedalling efficiency on the Zepp and the HobGoblin: the HobGoblin wins hands down. The HobGoblin climbs and pedals great!

    Single pivots aren't necessarily bad, in fact they work great for a lot of gravity oriented bikes and are certainly easier to maintain than complicated multilink systems. But generally they don't climb as well and can suffer occasionally from brake-jack.

    The HobGoblin in both standard and XO format will have a lock-out rear shock.

    Hope that helps!

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    Jeremy,

    Ok, I know you've been hush-hush on this b/c of the issues mentioned previously in this post. Any chance there are some updates you can give us regarding the HG? I am seriously considering upgrading this winter and believe a full sus 29er is in order (I talked to you about this at the Midwest Outdoor Experience). Chomping at the bit for some specs on this bike and the competition it is aiming at. I think I am leaning toward Spec. Epic Comp, Giant Anthem or Niner Jet 9. I love the business model and the fact that you guys are local. Also might toss my hat in the flight crew ring. Anywho, is there anything more you can feed us? i can't be the only one out there feeling this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    Yeah there is no comparison between pedalling efficiency on the Zepp and the HobGoblin: the HobGoblin wins hands down. The HobGoblin climbs and pedals great!

    Single pivots aren't necessarily bad, in fact they work great for a lot of gravity oriented bikes and are certainly easier to maintain than complicated multilink systems. But generally they don't climb as well and can suffer occasionally from brake-jack.

    The HobGoblin in both standard and XO format will have a lock-out rear shock.

    Hope that helps!

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    What is brake-jack?? I'm still new sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikr94 View Post
    Jeremy,

    Ok, I know you've been hush-hush on this b/c of the issues mentioned previously in this post. Any chance there are some updates you can give us regarding the HG? I am seriously considering upgrading this winter and believe a full sus 29er is in order (I talked to you about this at the Midwest Outdoor Experience). Chomping at the bit for some specs on this bike and the competition it is aiming at. I think I am leaning toward Spec. Epic Comp, Giant Anthem or Niner Jet 9. I love the business model and the fact that you guys are local. Also might toss my hat in the flight crew ring. Anywho, is there anything more you can feed us? i can't be the only one out there feeling this way.

    Thanks,

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    I heard Jeremy was going to China to oversee some production runs...can we assume these are HobGoblin runs?!?! Given prior posts, we should get specifics in the next week hopefully...

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    Pete,

    Yeah, I guess i am assuming there will be HobGoblin runs. Possibly Toxin too. I know this bike is supposed to be ready for pre-order in about a week or so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkidd_39 View Post
    What is brake-jack?? I'm still new sorry
    I can't explain the dynamics behind the geometry as to why it happens, but:

    Brakejack happens on single pivot suspension when you apply the rear brake while going over rough spots or bumps in the trail. The brake action effectively locks out the suspension, so your rear shock is not moving while going over bumps, resulting in a harsh, hardtail like feel.

    Multi link suspension (DW, Maestro, and what is found on the Hobgoblin) remains active under braking, so you can blast in to a rock garden with the back wheel locked (not the recommended tactic), but the suspension will still soak up the bumps.
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    Just a teaser....or two........I can't give you any more info that this at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    Just a teaser....or two........I can't give you any more info that this at the moment.
    That orange won't match my pink gloves. Gonna need you to fix that. Thanks for the pics. Def wanting one!!

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    Looks like internal cable routing, HUGE pivot bearings, and press-fit BB. Great job, guys!! Cant wait to get my hands on one!

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    Awesome!
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    Jeremy,

    Saw these pics on FB this AM. thanks for posting them here too. Awesome pics, now I'm gonna wait and see what you tell us about the bike. Love the orange, too bad it's not gonna be available complete. Maybe someone would wanna swap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikr94 View Post
    Jeremy,

    Saw these pics on FB this AM. thanks for posting them here too. Awesome pics, now I'm gonna wait and see what you tell us about the bike. Love the orange, too bad it's not gonna be available complete. Maybe someone would wanna swap?
    Just buy the complete bike AND the orange frame. Then you can swap it out yourself and mount the blue frame on the wall in your house! Win/Win!
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    dang.... maybe I should've saved more money and gone with an FS :x

    the matte white goblin frame is amazing as well. I'd swap that out on my guardian any day.

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    Is the orange the frameset only HobGoblin? If so where do I send money!?

    I decided I want to build up my HobGoblin myself, because I really want a 15mm or 20mm front axle and all the pics I've seen look like all of the complete hobgoblins have 9mm QR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swildnm View Post
    Is the orange the frameset only HobGoblin? If so where do I send money!?

    I decided I want to build up my HobGoblin myself, because I really want a 15mm or 20mm front axle and all the pics I've seen look like all of the complete hobgoblins have 9mm QR.
    Framesets only come in orange, but if you want a complete with a 15mm Maxle we do have one being built, it's the XO model and it is a different color all-together.
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    OK, one more teaser.........
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    Thanks for the teaser pics BDF!

    Super excited to get pricing info on this soon...

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    I kinda forgot about the xo version of this bike. man, probably gonna be out of my budget..


    Pete, I like being married too much to do what you suggest ;-)

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    I'm definitely excited for the Hobgoblin X7 build! I cant wait to see the complete specs so I can make a final decision whether to get this or a Giant anthem/trance 29er.

    Value aside, I wonder how the Hobgoblin's system compares to the Giant's Maestro rear suspension system. Maybe Bigdaddy could chime in or someone with experience on an prototype. Im not knowledgeable on these things and its really the only thing missing in my book to fully come to side with a hobgoblin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westsid3r View Post
    I'm definitely excited for the Hobgoblin X7 build! I cant wait to see the complete specs so I can make a final decision whether to get this or a Giant anthem/trance 29er.

    Value aside, I wonder how the Hobgoblin's system compares to the Giant's Maestro rear suspension system. Maybe Bigdaddy could chime in or someone with experience on an prototype. Im not knowledgeable on these things and its really the only thing missing in my book to fully come to side with a hobgoblin.
    Exactly my considerations too! Would love to get thoughts on this....

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    That makes 3 of us. I haven't ridden a Giant yet but I would like to know the comparisons too. I wish the reg. HG was coming through w/ the 15mm Maxle

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikr94 View Post
    That makes 3 of us. I haven't ridden a Giant yet but I would like to know the comparisons too. I wish the reg. HG was coming through w/ the 15mm Maxle

    Keith
    For the pricepoint we will be selling it at, much like what we are doing with the Goblin, it's not possible. Sorry. We can't have everything~!

    But the XO version does have the Maxle.

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    let me know if you need any testers

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    For the pricepoint we will be selling it at, much like what we are doing with the Goblin, it's not possible. Sorry. We can't have everything~!

    But the XO version does have the Maxle.

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    I am glad I re-read this! I first read it as saying the HG was not comparable to the Giant because of the price point...did not first realize you were talking about the Maxle!

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    I think we need more picks!!!

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    I'd like to see pricing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CYCLEJCE View Post
    I'd like to see pricing.
    That's what we are all anxiously awaiting! I'm hoping this week...

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    This was posted yesterday on there facebook page Airborne HobGoblin?-imageuploadedbytapatalk1352320487.401970.jpg

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    I'll get you pricing as soon as I can. Like I've stated a few times you guys will know as soon as I can let it out. There's one more variable left that I am working on here at the factory that factors into pricing. The last thing I want to do is announce one price and then give you a different one later. Thanks for being so paitent; its great that everyone is so interested!

    Yep, in the photo that shows the X9 brakes, XO Gold shifters, FSA SLK low-rise carbon bars, and the velo lock-on grips with gold ends. Snazzy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    I'll get you pricing as soon as I can. Like I've stated a few times you guys will know as soon as I can let it out. There's one more variable left that I am working on here at the factory that factors into pricing. The last thing I want to do is announce one price and then give you a different one later. Thanks for being so paitent; its great that everyone is so interested!

    Yep, in the photo that shows the X9 brakes, XO Gold shifters, FSA SLK low-rise carbon bars, and the velo lock-on grips with gold ends. Snazzy!
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    Man, I am jonesin' for some more info! Even a few more pics!

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    The suspense is killing me! I can't wait to get the parts list and price. Hopefully next week

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    i was watching a video of sea otter and it showed a bike called the warhawk. is that bike still going to be released?

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    or is the hobgoblin its replacement

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    I am curious about this bike. I live in Oklahoma so need for full suspension is not really there, although this bike at the price mentioned may be the one. I am in need for a new bike for next years race season and was looking at airbourne because of the components for the price. This was my first year of riding and I did it on a specialized hardrock. I'm 6'4 and really my only concerns are how the frames compare? I am not aware of dealers in my area so I would not be able to test ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaTiRo View Post
    i was watching a video of sea otter and it showed a bike called the warhawk. is that bike still going to be released?
    I believe Airborne scrapped that project to make room for bigger and better things...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpatt28 View Post
    I am curious about this bike. I live in Oklahoma so need for full suspension is not really there, although this bike at the price mentioned may be the one. I am in need for a new bike for next years race season and was looking at airbourne because of the components for the price. This was my first year of riding and I did it on a specialized hardrock. I'm 6'4 and really my only concerns are how the frames compare? I am not aware of dealers in my area so I would not be able to test ride.
    Airborne does not have dealers. They are direct order only. But they will do everything in there power to make sure you fit. I'm 6'3" and I ride a 21" zeppelin elite or a 22" goblin.

    BigDaddyFlyer is a super helpful rep for airborne so he can answer anything you need. Cept pricing right now as that's hush hush

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    OK, you guys are getting the info here first.

    Price on the HobGoblin is $1749 plus shipping.

    From now until December 5th we will be running our free freight promo for any booked pre-orders. After that the free freight promo is over so if you want to save the $75 this is the only way.

    Bikes are due to be in the warehouse and shipping to customers the week of December 10th.

    The new HobGoblin webpage will be up and working later today, complete with photos and ordering info.

    Framesets and a macked-out XO version are both coming soon, more details on those to follow.

    Here are the specs for the $1749 HobGoblin:


    Frame:7000series Hydroformed Aluminum Dual Suspension 29" with 100mm of travel
    Fork: RockShox Reba RL 29 Dual Air w/Lock-Out, tapered steer, 100mm
    Headset: Ahead Sealed Cartridge 1 1/8" to 1.5" tapered
    Rear Shock: RockShox Monarch RL with lock-out
    Brake Levers: Avid Elixir 3
    Brakes: Avid Elixir 3 Hydraulic Disc
    Rotors: Avid 180mm front, 160mm rear
    Shifters: SRAM X-7 2x10
    F Derailleur: SRAM X-7 2x10
    R Derailleur: SRAM X-7 2x10 Mid-Cage
    Cassette: SRAM PG-1050 11-36T 10-Speed
    Chain: SRAM Powerchain 1051
    Crank: SRAM X-7 2x10, 38/24 rings
    Bottom Bracket: SRAM PressFit30
    Pedals: NONE
    Rims: WTB SpeedDisc XC Alloy Double-Walled with eyelets
    Hubs: KT HiFlange Sealed Bearing 32H
    Spokes: Black 14g Stainless
    Tires: GEAX AKA 2.2"
    Handlebar: AIRBORNE Alloy 640mm wide, 15 degree rise, 5 degree sweep
    Stem: AIRBORNE Alloy +/- 7 Degree Rise, size specific
    Saddle: Selle San Marco Ponza Power
    Seat Post: AIRBORNE Alloy 31.6mm Diameter, 350mm Length
    Extras: Owner's Manual, Clear Coat, H20 Bottle Mount

    Thanks for your patience, and let me know if you have any questions!

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    mmmmmm so secksy. never tried a FS o_O

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    Thank you for going 31.6 on the seat. I want a dropper in the worst way and the 30mm on my zeppelin makes things difficult

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkidd_39 View Post
    Thank you for going 31.6 on the seat. I want a dropper in the worst way and the 30mm on my zeppelin makes things difficult
    You're welcome!

    That 30.0 was done by the prior PM that came before me. All of the mountainbikes I have worked on have been 31.6 for availability and ease of upgrading seatposts.

    30.0 is a dead seatpost size and very difficult to find any more.
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    that's a lot of bike for the price.

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    When can we get specs on the geometry? My local LBS was blown away by my zeppelin and I mentioned the hobgoblin and how I was excited about it and I mentioned sub 2k 29er FS and he started asking me about head angles and all sorts of geometry questions that I didn't learn about in high school.

    Pretty good sign of a killer bike if a LBS owner is rocking one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkidd_39 View Post
    When can we get specs on the geometry? My local LBS was blown away by my zeppelin and I mentioned the hobgoblin and how I was excited about it and I mentioned sub 2k 29er FS and he started asking me about head angles and all sorts of geometry questions that I didn't learn about in high school.

    Pretty good sign of a killer bike if a LBS owner is rocking one.
    The webpage will be up later today with all of the info.

    Basically the geometry is almost the same as the new Goblin, so that the two ride very similar to each other. (71 degree HT and 74 degree ST angles).

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    Thanks BDF for the info first! Very excited and the price point is GREAT!

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    I don't see any web page with the Hobgoblin?!?! Am I missing something or did it not go up yet?

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    it's not up yet. I'm guessing it'll be released first thing in the morning! i'm not even buying it and i'm excited. a man can only dream

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    Quote Originally Posted by swl7 View Post
    it's not up yet. I'm guessing it'll be released first thing in the morning! i'm not even buying it and i'm excited. a man can only dream
    HobGoblin is up on the website now!

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    But I'm holding out for pricing on the XO!

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