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    The HobGoblin frameset ordering/info page is up an running now if you want to check it out..........

    Airborne Bicycles. HobGoblin Frameset

    Here's a pic of my personal HobGoblin from my Thanksgiving morning ride yesterday. Pardon the crappy homemade chainstay guard and little bits of black tape protecting it from cable rub. My new chainstay guard and clear protector decals arrive today so it look prettier soon!
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    This bike looks great Jeremy! Just hoping the wife will let me pick up a present for myself for Christmas I have been wanting to make the jump into the 29er world, so thank you for making it an affordable jump! Great Work!

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    Really like the way this turned out. I'm hoping for an end of the year purchase. There is a serious amount of value packed into this package. Looking forward to seeing the XO price but more likely to stick with the X7 with a custom Ti DeSalvo road bike on order.

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    Jeremy I'm 6'4 and 185. I currently ride an entry level specialized hardrock and have no complaints other than components. How will this fit me and whats the warranty/return policy like? Looking to pick this up for next years race season. This was my first year riding and only rode during the summer. Was planning on a new hard tail at this price because other full suspension would require more dough for these components. Thanks

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    what size is your hardrock?

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    Xl so I assume that's 21inch. The frame fits me good but it's also the first mountain bike I've owned since I was younger. Plus since bought at one of my lbs it was set up to my height.

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    Anymore shots to show tyre clearance on this frame? Quite interested still despite, but need to know I can at least run a tyre that has some volume like a Maxxis Ikon 2.2" as a minimum, WITH room if there's mud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpatt28 View Post
    Xl so I assume that's 21inch. The frame fits me good but it's also the first mountain bike I've owned since I was younger. Plus since bought at one of my lbs it was set up to my height.
    You'd probably fit just perfect on the 21inch HobGoblin. Check the geo details on the website and compare them to your Specialized, but I think they should be very close.

    We have a 30day satisfaction warranty so you should be able to buy with confidence. If you want to be certain before you purchase, give us a ring and talk to us about sizing to ensure it is good.....

    Anymore shots to show tyre clearance on this frame? Quite interested still despite, but need to know I can at least run a tyre that has some volume like a Maxxis Ikon 2.2" as a minimum, WITH room if there's mud.
    Below is a shot I just took of the underside of my personal orange one with a 2.1 SB8 on it. There is pleny of room for 2.2's plus mud. I'll be putting a set of 2.2 AKA's on it later this week and can take another shot if you would like.
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    Thanks for the shot - just to confirm, that's the chainstays in the pic right?. Never seen nor ran an SB8, do you have measurements on it? If it's like it's 26" brother then it should be just about as wide as a 2.1" Crossmark, maybe a tad narrower. Did you guys ever weigh any of the frames? Real curious as to weight, as this would be an XC setup for me and would be looking for a frame under 7.5lbs including shock.
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    From the website: Average weight for a 17" frameset including shock is 7.1lbs.

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    Guess I missed that, thanks.
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    From the website: Average weight for a 17" frameset including shock is 7.1lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Thanks for the shot - just to confirm, that's the chainstays in the pic right?. Never seen nor ran an SB8, do you have measurements on it? If it's like it's 26" brother then it should be just about as wide as a 2.1" Crossmark, maybe a tad narrower. Did you guys ever weigh any of the frames? Real curious as to weight, as this would be an XC setup for me and would be looking for a frame under 7.5lbs including shock.
    The rear tire (inflated to 36 psi) on mine measures 2.104 inches, with the opening in the frame measuring 2.81 inches. That is the underside of the chainstay, and the seatstay has the same exact clearance amount.

    The 17" frame with shock weighs on average 7.1lbs.
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    I'm betting you mean 7.1 lbs, not 17.1 lbs.
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    Doh.
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    Man I want one of these to test. The price point if it pedals as well as claimed would mean I could probably sell/recommend these to loads of people and would make good tour/rental bikes for my little venture I'm trying to build. Looked around and there's nothing close to this in terms of $$ for spec. Curious though about why no Elixir7s like the Goblin, as when I do the math on the Goblin price, subtract the Goblin frame only price and add the HobGoblin price it only comes to $80 more My only concern with the frame is the PF30 BB, not so bothered on these new press fit BBs, seen quite a few give trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    My only concern with the frame is the PF30 BB, not so bothered on these new press fit BBs, seen quite a few give trouble.
    The PF30 is pretty bullet-proof and is nice because it works with regular GXP cranks. It offers a larger/wider area to weld to which is critical in a lot of dual-suspension designs like this one.

    I was leary of the standard when it first came out, but after spending a lot of time with it and also using it on my HG test bike over the last 7ish months I like it a lot. Easy to install, worry free, and creak-free. I like it better than BB30, but that's just my personal opinion.
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    Wow that orange is pretty sweet looking.... Hmmmmm....
    I may have to change my plans for next season... great job as always!

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    Looks like I waited too long to pull the trigger. I went to add a HG into my cart and it said out of stock. Now the wait for the XO and hoping I have the cash.

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    Is there any relation between this bike and the Fezzari Hidden Peak? I ran across a pic of the Fezzari from an old MBA magazine and they look to have the same rocker/shock placement and the front triangle looks similar as well. Just curious.

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    It looks like the reason for the out of stock message for the HG is that the bikes are stuck on a ship due to the dock strike. There is a FB post saying Airborne will not take anymore preorders until they know when they will be able to ship the bikes. I just edited my post to add the new message that bikes are going to be available. Here is the new FB message:

    Great news! We just found out that while the dockworkers strike is still on, we were able to get the vessel into a top-secret black-ops pier so that we can get the HobGoblins into the warehouse. They should be arriving in the warehouse the week of December 10th (next week). We will be shipping them out to customers sometime over the course of the week after that (10th thru the 17th).

    WE ARE RUNNING OUR PRE-ORDER SPECIAL !: Order your HobGoblin now thru December 9th and get free shipping, a $75 savings on bikes and a $25 savings on frames! We will be charging shipping on all orders placed after that date. Thanks!
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    Things change quickly sometimes, and this time it was for the good~!

    We just posted this up and updated our website as well......

    Great news! We just found out that while the dockworkers strike is still on, we were able to get the vessel into a top-secret black-ops pier so that we can get the HobGoblins into the warehouse. They should be arriving in the warehouse the week of December 10th (next week). We will be shipping them out to customers sometime over the course of the week after that (10th thru the 17th).

    WE ARE RUNNING OUR PRE-ORDER SPECIAL!: Order your HobGoblin now thru December 9th and get free shipping, a $75 savings on bikes and a $25 savings on frames! We will be charging shipping on all orders placed after that date. Thanks!
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    I just edited my earlier post with your new FB post but you beat me to it. Great news.

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    On a side note, I just got off the phone with Eric and I have to say, he was extremely helpful and I think might have spent another half hour on the phone with me if the extra time was needed. Very enthusiastic about the bike, as well.

    Jeremy, your name came up regarding fit. I am trying to decide between a 19" and 21". My legs are long and torso short. I ride a custom road bike with a 54 cm tt, 58 cm ctc/60 ctt st and 195 mm ht. My inseam is about 36" and I am 6'2". Eric thought a 19" with a 410 Thompson sp maybe the way to go. Any thoughts? I hope it's okay to post in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbakes View Post
    On a side note, I just got off the phone with Eric and I have to say, he was extremely helpful and I think might have spent another half hour on the phone with me if the extra time was needed. Very enthusiastic about the bike, as well.

    Jeremy, your name came up regarding fit. I am trying to decide between a 19" and 21". My legs are long and torso short. I ride a custom road bike with a 54 cm tt, 58 cm ctc/60 ctt st and 195 mm ht. My inseam is about 36" and I am 6'2". Eric thought a 19" with a 410 Thompson sp maybe the way to go. Any thoughts? I hope it's okay to post in this thread.
    Awesome! We both love the HG probably more than we thought we would since we are both old-school hardtail guys.

    Yeah I think the 21 might be too long for you based on your measurements and your road bike. I think the 19 with a longer 410mm post should be a perfect fit....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post

    Here's a pic of my personal HobGoblin from my Thanksgiving morning ride yesterday. Pardon the crappy homemade chainstay guard and little bits of black tape protecting it from cable rub. My new chainstay guard and clear protector decals arrive today so it look prettier soon!
    Hey J, what's the build on that sucker? How do you like the wheels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddre View Post
    Hey J, what's the build on that sucker? How do you like the wheels?
    Hey Todd,

    Here it is off the top of my head.......

    X7 2x10 shifters, crank (38/24), RD, chain, cassette
    X9 FD
    Elixir R brakes with 180 front and 160 rear rotors
    Reba RL SOLO AIR tapered for 15mm thru axle
    FSA SLK carbon bars and FSA SLK stem
    Lizard Skin lock-on grips
    Thomson 410 post
    Selle Italia Flite Gel saddle
    Cole 29er Lite wheelset
    SB8's

    I really like the Cole wheelset. It's not the lightest, but its super stiff due to the spoke/hub interface that allows the spokes to be at high tension. It's been a super reliable wheelset. I think that I like them as much as my CrossMax 29 wheelset, which says a lot about them.

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    Jeremy, thanks for the help. A 19" it is then.

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    Can you tell us what wheel set will be shipping on the XO Hobgoblin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swildnm View Post
    Can you tell us what wheel set will be shipping on the XO Hobgoblin?
    Certainly. They are the Black Flag Pro's.

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    Sweet! Can't wait for pricing and full specs.

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    Just pulled the trigger on a HG. Look forward to it's arrival.

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    Just received notice the bike shipped and is supposed to arrive on Friday. I'm gone for the weekend so hope to have pics up Monday or Tuesday.

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    i can't wait to see pics

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    You mentioned the shock is going to be single air when the dual airs are gone. By chance will this change include a through axle?

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    Curious what other bikes you've owned and ridden in the past? Definitely start a thread with pics and a full report on the build quality and how it rides. I'm very curious on these, especially for the price and what you get for your $$, but honestly the suspension design isn't familiar to me and not much info on it and how it rides.

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    Just received notice the bike shipped and is supposed to arrive on Friday. I'm gone for the weekend so hope to have pics up Monday or Tuesday.
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    I have not been on a mountain bike in more than 10 years and perhaps longer. I've been road riding for the last 8 months. I still have my steel Barracuda ht with XT and a Specialized branded, carbon tube Rock Shock (which is shot). This is my first full suspension bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Curious what other bikes you've owned and ridden in the past? Definitely start a thread with pics and a full report on the build quality and how it rides. I'm very curious on these, especially for the price and what you get for your $$, but honestly the suspension design isn't familiar to me and not much info on it and how it rides.
    The Fezzari Hidden Peak appears to use the same suspension design. You may have better luck finding ride/design impressions on it as it has been out a while.

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    Actually it's the exact same design, from the same factory, only Airborne "tweaked" the geo a bit. So yeah kow about the Fezzari, but there pricing as consumer direct is quite above Airborne's, not much info out there on them still though.

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    The Fezzari Hidden Peak appears to use the same suspension design. You may have better luck finding ride/design impressions on it as it has been out a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScabFace View Post
    You mentioned the shock is going to be single air when the dual airs are gone. By chance will this change include a through axle?
    The thru-axle adds cost and will not be on this level HobGoblin.

    The XO version coming out soon (promise!) will have a Maxle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Actually it's the exact same design, from the same factory, only Airborne "tweaked" the geo a bit. So yeah kow about the Fezzari, but there pricing as consumer direct is quite above Airborne's, not much info out there on them still though.
    There have been a few other meaningful tweaks done that differentiate it, including the seat-tube design and rocker arm connection on it, as well as a beefier lower rocker arm.

    The ride is somewhat similar in feel to the Maestro design.
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    Jeremy,

    Is it possible to convert the hub on the front wheel to accept a Maxle? As in, are there adapters for it or would the wheel need to be changed entirely if the fork was swapped out to a Maxle version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikr94 View Post
    Jeremy,

    Is it possible to convert the hub on the front wheel to accept a Maxle? As in, are there adapters for it or would the wheel need to be changed entirely if the fork was swapped out to a Maxle version?
    There's no way to convert the hub to 15mm thru-axle.

    Most hubs are either 9mm QR or 15mm Maxle, but not capable of both. There are some hubs on complete wheelsets that are like this, for example the CrossMax and Black Flags are convertible.
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    Hey guys...first post here from the frozen (and snowed-in) North....

    Mtnbikr94 was asking about a conversion. I was doing the same about my (awesome) new Goblin at my LBS. They said that you can gain "much of the advantage" by converting to a decent quality old fashioned bolt in axle. They said that the inconvenience is counterbalanced by the better steering acuity.

    Is this true? If so....how true?

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    BD, can you expand any further on that comment? I've owned and ridden Maestro, CVA and now KS Link, all mini link designs and I like how they ride and especially climb, very efficient. I'd love to be able to throw a leg over one of these so I could confidently recommend to local riders as we have quite a few guys getting into MTB who aren't too young and wishing for a FS, and this would I thin just suit them both in ride and $$.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    There have been a few other meaningful tweaks done that differentiate it, including the seat-tube design and rocker arm connection on it, as well as a beefier lower rocker arm.

    The ride is somewhat similar in feel to the Maestro design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    BD, can you expand any further on that comment? I've owned and ridden Maestro, CVA and now KS Link, all mini link designs and I like how they ride and especially climb, very efficient. I'd love to be able to throw a leg over one of these so I could confidently recommend to local riders as we have quite a few guys getting into MTB who aren't too young and wishing for a FS, and this would I thin just suit them both in ride and $$.
    Sure, the design is somewhat similar to the Maestro (with the exception of the lower link and how it actuates). In terms of ride quality the two feel very close. Out of all of the suspensions I've ridden over the years it feels the closest to that, followed closely by an older DW Link bike I used to have. It climbs great, even out of the saddle. Braking seems to have little to no affect on it.

    It may be a placebo effect, but I feel that it corners better than my hardtail..........it just seems to grab and go. I've been a die-hard hardtail rider (for XC riding) for many years, and this bike is the one that seems to have changed my perception.

    Can you tell I'm excited about it? I'm trying hard to not sound like a fan-boy or a marketing guy but I've been having a lot of fun this year riding and working on it.........

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    Dammit, you're making me want one.

    I'll just keep saying my mantra *I already have a great bike, I already have a great bike.*
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    Certainly. They are the Black Flag Pro's.

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    Will the 20mm, and 9mm adapters be included like they are with the retail wheel sets, or will it include only the 15mm adapters for the included fork?

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    Sorry, double post, website weirdness....

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    So, has anyone received their HobGoblin yet and had a chance to get out and ride? I haven't had a chance to ride a Maestro suspended bike yet but have seriously considered a Giant Anthem as my next bike. To hear that the Airborne is similar makes me want to hear thoughts from those that have experienced both. C'mon, post up. There has to be someone out there...

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    Mine arrived but my mechanic is setting up for me since I am out of town for the weekend. I should have it on Monday. Will try to get out at the end of the day if its still light.

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