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    Yeah sorry for the delay, I had the best intentions but was hampered by a delay related to the photos. Anyway, its all done and up! Thanks!

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    Looks great. How do you lockout the rear shock? Any options for a handlebar mounted way to
    Lock it out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkidd_39 View Post
    Looks great. How do you lockout the rear shock? Any options for a handlebar mounted way to
    Lock it out?
    The lever on the shock flips up to lock it.

    Rockshox offers a version of the shock that has a remote but I don't think its a simple matter of fitting it to it.

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    BDF: seriously love how active you are on these forums! Seriously makes me love Airborne!

    Question. I am ~5'11" with a 32" inseam, would the 19" HobGoblin be the size for me?

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    the real question is. do I buy the frame when it's available and put my guardian's parts on it! would that be too mean for my hardtail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovespicyfood View Post
    BDF: seriously love how active you are on these forums! Seriously makes me love Airborne!

    Question. I am ~5'11" with a 32" inseam, would the 19" HobGoblin be the size for me?

    Thank you,
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    Thanks Pete!

    Yep, the 19 would be perfect for you. It has a 30" standover and based on your two measurements I would assume you are fairly normal-proportioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swl7 View Post
    the real question is. do I buy the frame when it's available and put my guardian's parts on it! would that be too mean for my hardtail?

    Hmmm......

    Your Guardian's hurt feelings aside, I think financially it would make more sense to buy a complete HobGoblin. Here are the parts that won't transfer over from your Guardian:

    Cranks and BB
    Headset
    Fork
    Front Deraileur

    By the time you bought new ones of those, you would have been better off selling the Guardian and rolling that cash into the complete HobGoblin............plus you would end up with better brakes, shifters, cranks, fork, etc.

    Of course if you are stuck on the awesome orange color the new framesets are, well then I can't change your mind! I'm building up one of the orange ones for myself when they come it, they looked hawt in person...........

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    When will we get pricing info on the frame? Rear shock 6.5x1.5??

    If I upgrade my zeppelin shock over winter I'd love to just transfer my shock once it's ready to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkidd_39 View Post
    When will we get pricing info on the frame? Rear shock 6.5x1.5??

    If I upgrade my zeppelin shock over winter I'd love to just transfer my shock once it's ready to go.
    We'll officially release pricing and more info on the frame only soon, but unofficially it will probably be just under $900. That includes a Monarch RL shock with lock-out and headset.

    Shock specs are 165mm eye to eye x 38mm stroke.

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    BDF: thanks for the sizing info!

    Will the XO model be announced and ship before Xmas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovespicyfood View Post
    BDF: thanks for the sizing info!

    Will the XO model be announced and ship before Xmas?
    You're welcome!

    Both the Goblin XO and HobGoblin XO were planned to be produced the same time the HobGoblins were made, however we had an issue with waiting on 2 key parts. So instead, they will be running down the production line the week of December 10th. We'll be releasing info and photos on them shortly afterwards. Look for them to be in the warehouse shipping out to customers by mid-January.

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    I meant to mention this earlier................

    Like the black Goblin, we managed to secure some of the last of the Dual Air Reba RL forks for this first production run of the new HobGoblin. Subsequent production runs will come with the Single Air version of the Reba RL as RockShox is moving to the Single Air platform on the Rebas going forward (for the same $$).

    So if you want a Dual Air, order your HobGoblin in the next month or two. After that, it and the black Goblin will be coming with the Single Air forks.

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    Weight

    Jeremy, I know bike makers don't want to post weights.

    But, seriously, how much does the 17" Hobgoblin weigh?

    Is it under 30?

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    Jeremy,
    You may have just swayed me away from all my other options for FS 29ers! The Hobgoblin looks great, and the blue is phenomenal.

    Question: Can you describe the leverage ratio and rate for the rear suspension? I'm wondering how it compares to all the other bikes I'm considering... Being a heavier guy, I also need to make sure that I'm not going to be near the limit for shock pressure.

    Oh, and the XO version better be above $4k or I'm going to get in trouble with the wife! She'll like the X7 price, but I don't think I can convince her to let me spend more than $3k on a bike right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffharris1us View Post
    Jeremy, I know bike makers don't want to post weights.

    But, seriously, how much does the 17" Hobgoblin weigh?

    Is it under 30?
    Website says avg. weight for 17" was 30.4lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnlwthrn View Post
    Website says avg. weight for 17" was 30.4lbs.
    Where did you find weight info on the website??

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    Go to the geometry tab, and then scroll all the way down.

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    Gotcha. Thank you sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnlwthrn View Post
    Jeremy,
    You may have just swayed me away from all my other options for FS 29ers! The Hobgoblin looks great, and the blue is phenomenal.

    Question: Can you describe the leverage ratio and rate for the rear suspension? I'm wondering how it compares to all the other bikes I'm considering... Being a heavier guy, I also need to make sure that I'm not going to be near the limit for shock pressure.

    Oh, and the XO version better be above $4k or I'm going to get in trouble with the wife! She'll like the X7 price, but I don't think I can convince her to let me spend more than $3k on a bike right now.
    Rear leverage ratio is 2.65 to 1. Shock travel is 38mm. I believe the max pressure on the shock is 300lbs.

    Sorry for the bad news, but the XO is gonna be well below $4K.

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    So I should hold off preordering the HobGoblin at this point? When do you expect to have the XO version up on the website?

    Never mind, I just saw your "mid-January" comment in a previous post...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnlwthrn View Post
    So I should hold off preordering the HobGoblin at this point? When do you expect to have the XO version up on the website?

    Never mind, I just saw your "mid-January" comment in a previous post...
    No worries. Look for the XO page to be done and taking orders in mid-to-late December. We'll run the free freight promo deal on that one for pre-orders.

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    One more question while I'm at it... Any issues swapping the fork to 120mm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnlwthrn View Post
    One more question while I'm at it... Any issues swapping the fork to 120mm?
    The frame is designed around an ATC measurement related to a 100mm travel fork. If you go 120mm on it, it will slacken the HT and ST angles and raise the BB.

    "Officially", we wouldn't recommend that you increase the travel to 120 as it does put additional leverage force on the HT junction area. In the real world, would it be OK? Probably.
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    On the frame only version of the HobGoblin. Is white the only color that the shock comes in? It looks very out of place with the rest of the bike. A black body shock would make a world of difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OilburnerDe View Post
    On the frame only version of the HobGoblin. Is white the only color that the shock comes in? It looks very out of place with the rest of the bike. A black body shock would make a world of difference.
    There are no color options on the shock, it's white only. We think the white looks good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    There are no color options on the shock, it's white only. We think the white looks good!
    Will agree to disagree on the looks. Just the Orange frame with Black linkage and Black Decals>> a black shock just seems like the obvious choice (if there were one)

    I am sure the bike will look awesome regardless and when it comes down to it, looks are secondary to performance.

    Having a new Goblin, I was day dreaming about getting this frame (come bonus time) and switching out what I could so I could have another option as I get back into riding. And then eventually buy what I need to have two complete bikes.

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    Yeah we can't please everyone, no worries!

    I've got an orange frame-only coming to me in the next week that I'm going to build up. I'll be certain to post up some photos so you can check it out. I'm going to have a white reba on it so it should tie it all together nicely.
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    I think the bike looks amazing! I do have one question. Does the position of the shock make a difference in the ride? For example, the Salsa Spearfish has a shock mounted on the top tube, while the Hobgoblin has it mounted on the seat tube.

    I've ridden about 5 or 6 FS bikes, but just for demo purposes. I never really noticed a difference, but I'm a noob to the FS world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barheet View Post
    I think the bike looks amazing! I do have one question. Does the position of the shock make a difference in the ride? For example, the Salsa Spearfish has a shock mounted on the top tube, while the Hobgoblin has it mounted on the seat tube.

    I've ridden about 5 or 6 FS bikes, but just for demo purposes. I never really noticed a difference, but I'm a noob to the FS world.
    Thanks!

    There's a bunch of suspension designs out there, and depending on the design the shock mount orientation changes. Just the orientation of the shock itself doesn't necessarily influence the ride.

    This is a good read on suspension designs for both experienced riders and noobs. Take a look.

    Buyer's Guide To Mountain Bike Suspension, Part 2 - BikeRadar

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    Quote Originally Posted by OilburnerDe View Post
    Will agree to disagree on the looks. Just the Orange frame with Black linkage and Black Decals>> a black shock just seems like the obvious choice (if there were one)

    I am sure the bike will look awesome regardless and when it comes down to it, looks are secondary to performance.

    Having a new Goblin, I was day dreaming about getting this frame (come bonus time) and switching out what I could so I could have another option as I get back into riding. And then eventually buy what I need to have two complete bikes.
    I thought the same thing. But you can accent it nicely. With a white fork and then white grips and maybe white pedals if you ride flats.

    I was the same was with my zeppelin. Till I started changing things around.

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    everyone has different opinions about color options. personally, i like the contrast of the black fork on a white frame.

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    I would assume that when buying in bulk, the white would be less costly, helping them reach the price point of $1749. Every little bit counts!

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    Looks very nice indeed and the parts pick is quite good for that price, although I would toss the Avids immediately and replace with XTs. Curious what your policy is on a longer fork to slacken things out a bit and what type of riding would you say this thin could handle with a 120mm or even 130mm fork on it? Also curious about frame+shock weight? Most interested in frame only.
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    Plenty of people are happy with Elixirs, including me. I have no desire to put Shimano components on our bikes due to customer service issues, rep issues, and lead time issues.

    Frames are built around 100mm travle fork ATC and that's all we recommend.

    More info on frame onlys to be released soon, thanks.
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    Sweet! I only need about $1500 more!!!!! I NEED this bike!

    One day!!
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    Can't say I concur, not only my Avids were a PITA and needed constant bleeding, but so have countless others belonging to other riders I know. I won't buy another Avid brake until their QC improves. As for Shimano maybe having crappy CS, doesn't bother me as once I buy a bike and get it down here to the Caribbean I'm S.O.L anyways with warranty etc., same for any other place outside the US I'm guessing.


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    Plenty of people are happy with Elixirs, including me. I have no desire to put Shimano components on our bikes due to customer service issues, rep issues, and lead time issues.

    Frames are built around 100mm travle fork ATC and that's all we recommend.

    More info on frame onlys to be released soon, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Can't say I concur, not only my Avids were a PITA and needed constant bleeding, but so have countless others belonging to other riders I know. I won't buy another Avid brake until their QC improves. As for Shimano maybe having crappy CS, doesn't bother me as once I buy a bike and get it down here to the Caribbean I'm S.O.L anyways with warranty etc., same for any other place outside the US I'm guessing.
    I don't like the fact that this thread about our new product has devolved into an Avid versus Shimano brakes debate, especially on a bike that is built to hit a $1749 price-point and the bikes it goes up against (the Trek SuperFly AL 100 and Specialized CamberComp) use the same Avid brakes or a lower grade of Avids (Elixir 1's which are basically the old Juicy 3's with a few tweaks).

    Let's say I throw XT's on there. Now the bike is nearly $2000 retail. And it's going to arrive in February or March now because Shimano NEVER delivers on time and has the worst communication of ANY supplier I have ever dealt with. My US Shimano Rep is non-existent as far as I can tell. Emails and phone-calls to him fall into a black hole, never to be returned. Its been this way for years, even when I worked for another bike company.

    Just because you, and a few of your friends or folks that commiserate together on MTBR have had issues with some Avid brakes doesn't mean they are bad. I have never had any problems in the years I have been riding them and on my own personal bikes I currently have sets of Elixir R's, Elixir CR's, XO's, Elixir 7's, and Elixir 9's all in use on my bikes with no issues. None of the folks here in the office or others I ride with have had any issues. If give value to your small sample rate as being statistically valid, then you have to give equal credit to mine.

    Respectfully, everyone wants to play product manager and while I usually appreciate the input, in this case I really don't. I would prefer that you keep this discussion on target, especially given the fact you are really interested in frame-onlys.

    Info on the frames as far as weight and pricing will be up soon, thanks.

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    Sorry if I've derailed your marketing thread discussing a part you specd on your bike, but that is the price you pay for using a forum to do your sales and marketing, stuff gets discussed and not everyone shares your personal opinions. Fact is lots of people buy complete bikes knowing full well that not everything on it is what they want and already know they'll be replacing them as to them it's worth it to them.

    I noted a simple statement going from personal experience, other riders I know and lots of reading around the WWW about not liking the brakes specd on the bike and you've taken it as some sort of attack. Yes you met your price point using the Elixir 3s, and that's what it's all about, wouldn't expect you to use anything else as you must be getting killer pricing from SRAM using everything from them. You could also have met your PP or a bit higher with the Shimano Deore which are super impressive for the cost. Also saying you've never had trouble with the specd brakes and yet you have only used 7s or better makes you saying the 3's are good not reallt relevant - there is a big difference between even the 5's and 7's, won't even talk about the 3's & 7's .

    BTW, you're telling me, Joe Public, that I can pick up a set of XTs with ice-tech rotors for about $300 US shipped and you, big bicycle company would have to tack on $250 US for OEM XTs over the Elixir 3s, seriously?

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    I don't like the fact that this thread about our new product has devolved into an Avid versus Shimano brakes debate, especially on a bike that is built to hit a $1749 price-point and the bikes it goes up against (the Trek SuperFly AL 100 and Specialized CamberComp) use the same Avid brakes or a lower grade of Avids (Elixir 1's which are basically the old Juicy 3's with a few tweaks).

    Let's say I throw XT's on there. Now the bike is nearly $2000 retail. And it's going to arrive in February or March now because Shimano NEVER delivers on time and has the worst communication of ANY supplier I have ever dealt with. My US Shimano Rep is non-existent as far as I can tell. Emails and phone-calls to him fall into a black hole, never to be returned. Its been this way for years, even when I worked for another bike company.

    Just because you, and a few of your friends or folks that commiserate together on MTBR have had issues with some Avid brakes doesn't mean they are bad. I have never had any problems in the years I have been riding them and on my own personal bikes I currently have sets of Elixir R's, Elixir CR's, XO's, Elixir 7's, and Elixir 9's all in use on my bikes with no issues. None of the folks here in the office or others I ride with have had any issues. If give value to your small sample rate as being statistically valid, then you have to give equal credit to mine.

    Respectfully, everyone wants to play product manager and while I usually appreciate the input, in this case I really don't. I would prefer that you keep this discussion on target, especially given the fact you are really interested in frame-onlys.

    Info on the frames as far as weight and pricing will be up soon, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Sorry if I've derailed your marketing thread discussing a part you specd on your bike, but that is the price you pay for using a forum to do your sales and marketing, stuff gets discussed and not everyone shares your personal opinions. Fact is lots of people buy complete bikes knowing full well that not everything on it is what they want and already know they'll be replacing them as to them it's worth it to them.

    I noted a simple statement going from personal experience, other riders I know and lots of reading around the WWW about not liking the brakes specd on the bike and you've taken it as some sort of attack. Yes you met your price point using the Elixir 3s, and that's what it's all about, wouldn't expect you to use anything else as you must be getting killer pricing from SRAM using everything from them. You could also have met your PP or a bit higher with the Shimano Deore which are super impressive for the cost. Also saying you've never had trouble with the specd brakes and yet you have only used 7s or better makes you saying the 3's are good not reallt relevant - there is a big difference between even the 5's and 7's, won't even talk about the 3's & 7's .

    BTW, you're telling me, Joe Public, that I can pick up a set of XTs with ice-tech rotors for about $300 US shipped and you, big bicycle company would have to tack on $250 US for OEM XTs over the Elixir 3s, seriously?
    Let it go...... buy the bike and replace the brakes then....

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    I personally think all your fancy brakes suck. I removed them all and out fitted my bike with the metal rod brake from the mining cart in Indian jones and the temple of doom.

    Boy are those hills fun when the rod breaks and I have to use my foot!!

    Seriously dude. You think we cant search the net like you for reviews?? My bike has brakes from Tektro that everyone hates. They are fantastic tho. Go figure.

    And my fiances bike has shimano brakes and they are total sh!t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Also saying you've never had trouble with the specd brakes and yet you have only used 7s or better makes you saying the 3's are good not reallt relevant - there is a big difference between even the 5's and 7's, won't even talk about the 3's & 7's .:
    Go back and read what you originally wrote. You were speaking to Avids in general, and so was I. Now you are just being argumentative.

    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    BTW, you're telling me, Joe Public, that I can pick up a set of XTs with ice-tech rotors for about $300 US shipped and you, big bicycle company would have to tack on $250 US for OEM XTs over the Elixir 3s, seriously?
    You aren't privy to what things really cost in OE terms, all you know is what you can find on deals, bargains, and close-outs.

    By the time I add the OE cost of the rotor and brakes together, I am spending more than $60 more per wheel to add the XT's. That means the retail of the price has got to go up by approx $200.

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    Sorry if I've derailed your marketing thread............
    I'm done speaking with you about this. If you want to argue, please go find someone else to argue with.

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    buy the frame and put whatever brakes on it that makes you happy. bike companies can't please everyone with the specs ..... and i've seen many companies use those avids on more expensive bikes.
    and who complains about this kind of stuff on a $1700 bike?

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    That's just it, I never complained, said I'd buy the complete bike and just replace the brakes right away, that's it, Jeremy got upset about that little statement right there. Anyone who's dealt with bikes for a while knows companies cut corners when specking completes, to hit a certain price point, you either buy them like that and replace what you don't like or buy a frame and build up as you like.

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    buy the frame and put whatever brakes on it that makes you happy. bike companies can't please everyone with the specs ..... and i've seen many companies use those avids on more expensive bikes.
    and who complains about this kind of stuff on a $1700 bike?
    As to my Avid experience, of the about 20 guys I know who own and use Avid, 75% of them have had problems with them, generally after not long they hit a good DH and because they aren't properly pre-bled, they have air in the system and it expands locking off the caliper onto the rotor.

    You know until I made the smallest of mention of not liking a part on your build, you came across as a level person with some good sense, now I'm "arguing" and derailing your marketing spiel and you're pissed because I called a Spade a Spade - I'm wondering if you maybe didn't have a job before at Chumba.

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    I'm done speaking with you about this. If you want to argue, please go find someone else to argue with.

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    Well I never said anything bad about Tektro, from what I've seen on a few different brand bikes with the new ones they seem to be quite good actually. Just recently had experience with the Dracos and quite nice, but no long term on if they'll stay that way or not. So far on the Shimanos, from low to high, all I've seen is good results. I personally was sick of having to constantly bleed my Avids every month or two, much prefer my current Stroker Trails and just waiting for the XTs to come in stock in what lever/caliper combo to order a set..
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    ..........Seriously dude. You think we cant search the net like you for reviews?? My bike has brakes from Tektro that everyone hates. They are fantastic tho. Go figure.

    And my fiances bike has shimano brakes and they are total sh!t.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    - I'm wondering if you maybe didn't have a job before at Chumba.
    I don't even know what or who Chumba is, nor do I care for that matter. Am I supposed to?

    I'm certain that was some sort of thinly-veiled insult, that I probably don't get since I don't spend as much time on here as you do, given your post count. Hence my label of you as being "argumentative".

    Please, just go to some other sub-forum if this is what your participation here is going to be like.

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    You are the argumentative one, you got all flustered from this one little statement, that's it, that's all I wrote and you went off on your tirade. Sadly this is MTBR, not Airborne's personal forum, where opinions are allowed and encouraged once kept civil and no trolling.
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    Looks very nice indeed and the parts pick is quite good for that price, although I would toss the Avids immediately and replace with XTs.
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    ...........Please, just go to some other sub-forum if this is what your participation here is going to be like.

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    I have a question regarding the frame (and probably a more gerneral Airborne bike quesiton)
    The cable routing guides that are welded on the frame. Would the black plastic clip piece be included? Can these be bought as spares for existing complete bikes?
    I was working on my new goblin at dusk in my front yard and lost one in the grass. It took me a while but I located it. But I imagine these things will get lost in the future in a cable snag or crash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OilburnerDe View Post
    I have a question regarding the frame (and probably a more gerneral Airborne bike quesiton)
    The cable routing guides that are welded on the frame. Would the black plastic clip piece be included? Can these be bought as spares for existing complete bikes?
    I was working on my new goblin at dusk in my front yard and lost one in the grass. It took me a while but I located it. But I imagine these things will get lost in the future in a cable snag or crash.
    Thanks for getting this discussion back on track.

    Ahhh, the clips. We would just use zip ties during production on complete bikes, but unfortunately zip ties can trip up CPSC testing because if not cut nicely they can present a "laceration hazard".Seriously, who has ever cut themselves with the end of a plastic zip tie??

    So, like most manufacturers, rather than worry about how the factory may cut the zip ties we use the clips. On all of our personal bikes, and bikes that we build up for local pick-ups, the clips get thrown in the trash and replaced with zip ties. I recommend that you do the same. Plus then you get the added bonus of using different color ones if you want to add some accents to your bike.

    Hope that helps!

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    Nutz, I actually dig the clips. Have a nice clean-finished look to it.

    Besides, using cable ties will add all that extra weight!


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    i can't wait to see a review on the hobgoblin. i hope to find an omnihouse video on youtube in the near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OilburnerDe View Post
    Nutz, I actually dig the clips. Have a nice clean-finished look to it.

    Besides, using cable ties will add all that extra weight!

    If you use the small cable ties they weigh less than the clips!
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    The HobGoblin frameset ordering/info page is up an running now if you want to check it out..........

    Airborne Bicycles. HobGoblin Frameset

    Here's a pic of my personal HobGoblin from my Thanksgiving morning ride yesterday. Pardon the crappy homemade chainstay guard and little bits of black tape protecting it from cable rub. My new chainstay guard and clear protector decals arrive today so it look prettier soon!
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    This bike looks great Jeremy! Just hoping the wife will let me pick up a present for myself for Christmas I have been wanting to make the jump into the 29er world, so thank you for making it an affordable jump! Great Work!

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    Really like the way this turned out. I'm hoping for an end of the year purchase. There is a serious amount of value packed into this package. Looking forward to seeing the XO price but more likely to stick with the X7 with a custom Ti DeSalvo road bike on order.

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    Jeremy I'm 6'4 and 185. I currently ride an entry level specialized hardrock and have no complaints other than components. How will this fit me and whats the warranty/return policy like? Looking to pick this up for next years race season. This was my first year riding and only rode during the summer. Was planning on a new hard tail at this price because other full suspension would require more dough for these components. Thanks

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    what size is your hardrock?

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    Xl so I assume that's 21inch. The frame fits me good but it's also the first mountain bike I've owned since I was younger. Plus since bought at one of my lbs it was set up to my height.

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    Anymore shots to show tyre clearance on this frame? Quite interested still despite, but need to know I can at least run a tyre that has some volume like a Maxxis Ikon 2.2" as a minimum, WITH room if there's mud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpatt28 View Post
    Xl so I assume that's 21inch. The frame fits me good but it's also the first mountain bike I've owned since I was younger. Plus since bought at one of my lbs it was set up to my height.
    You'd probably fit just perfect on the 21inch HobGoblin. Check the geo details on the website and compare them to your Specialized, but I think they should be very close.

    We have a 30day satisfaction warranty so you should be able to buy with confidence. If you want to be certain before you purchase, give us a ring and talk to us about sizing to ensure it is good.....

    Anymore shots to show tyre clearance on this frame? Quite interested still despite, but need to know I can at least run a tyre that has some volume like a Maxxis Ikon 2.2" as a minimum, WITH room if there's mud.
    Below is a shot I just took of the underside of my personal orange one with a 2.1 SB8 on it. There is pleny of room for 2.2's plus mud. I'll be putting a set of 2.2 AKA's on it later this week and can take another shot if you would like.
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    Thanks for the shot - just to confirm, that's the chainstays in the pic right?. Never seen nor ran an SB8, do you have measurements on it? If it's like it's 26" brother then it should be just about as wide as a 2.1" Crossmark, maybe a tad narrower. Did you guys ever weigh any of the frames? Real curious as to weight, as this would be an XC setup for me and would be looking for a frame under 7.5lbs including shock.
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    From the website: Average weight for a 17" frameset including shock is 7.1lbs.

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    Guess I missed that, thanks.
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    From the website: Average weight for a 17" frameset including shock is 7.1lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Thanks for the shot - just to confirm, that's the chainstays in the pic right?. Never seen nor ran an SB8, do you have measurements on it? If it's like it's 26" brother then it should be just about as wide as a 2.1" Crossmark, maybe a tad narrower. Did you guys ever weigh any of the frames? Real curious as to weight, as this would be an XC setup for me and would be looking for a frame under 7.5lbs including shock.
    The rear tire (inflated to 36 psi) on mine measures 2.104 inches, with the opening in the frame measuring 2.81 inches. That is the underside of the chainstay, and the seatstay has the same exact clearance amount.

    The 17" frame with shock weighs on average 7.1lbs.
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    I'm betting you mean 7.1 lbs, not 17.1 lbs.
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    Doh.
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    Man I want one of these to test. The price point if it pedals as well as claimed would mean I could probably sell/recommend these to loads of people and would make good tour/rental bikes for my little venture I'm trying to build. Looked around and there's nothing close to this in terms of $$ for spec. Curious though about why no Elixir7s like the Goblin, as when I do the math on the Goblin price, subtract the Goblin frame only price and add the HobGoblin price it only comes to $80 more My only concern with the frame is the PF30 BB, not so bothered on these new press fit BBs, seen quite a few give trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    My only concern with the frame is the PF30 BB, not so bothered on these new press fit BBs, seen quite a few give trouble.
    The PF30 is pretty bullet-proof and is nice because it works with regular GXP cranks. It offers a larger/wider area to weld to which is critical in a lot of dual-suspension designs like this one.

    I was leary of the standard when it first came out, but after spending a lot of time with it and also using it on my HG test bike over the last 7ish months I like it a lot. Easy to install, worry free, and creak-free. I like it better than BB30, but that's just my personal opinion.
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    Wow that orange is pretty sweet looking.... Hmmmmm....
    I may have to change my plans for next season... great job as always!

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    Looks like I waited too long to pull the trigger. I went to add a HG into my cart and it said out of stock. Now the wait for the XO and hoping I have the cash.

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    Is there any relation between this bike and the Fezzari Hidden Peak? I ran across a pic of the Fezzari from an old MBA magazine and they look to have the same rocker/shock placement and the front triangle looks similar as well. Just curious.

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    It looks like the reason for the out of stock message for the HG is that the bikes are stuck on a ship due to the dock strike. There is a FB post saying Airborne will not take anymore preorders until they know when they will be able to ship the bikes. I just edited my post to add the new message that bikes are going to be available. Here is the new FB message:

    Great news! We just found out that while the dockworkers strike is still on, we were able to get the vessel into a top-secret black-ops pier so that we can get the HobGoblins into the warehouse. They should be arriving in the warehouse the week of December 10th (next week). We will be shipping them out to customers sometime over the course of the week after that (10th thru the 17th).

    WE ARE RUNNING OUR PRE-ORDER SPECIAL !: Order your HobGoblin now thru December 9th and get free shipping, a $75 savings on bikes and a $25 savings on frames! We will be charging shipping on all orders placed after that date. Thanks!
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    Things change quickly sometimes, and this time it was for the good~!

    We just posted this up and updated our website as well......

    Great news! We just found out that while the dockworkers strike is still on, we were able to get the vessel into a top-secret black-ops pier so that we can get the HobGoblins into the warehouse. They should be arriving in the warehouse the week of December 10th (next week). We will be shipping them out to customers sometime over the course of the week after that (10th thru the 17th).

    WE ARE RUNNING OUR PRE-ORDER SPECIAL!: Order your HobGoblin now thru December 9th and get free shipping, a $75 savings on bikes and a $25 savings on frames! We will be charging shipping on all orders placed after that date. Thanks!
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    I just edited my earlier post with your new FB post but you beat me to it. Great news.

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    On a side note, I just got off the phone with Eric and I have to say, he was extremely helpful and I think might have spent another half hour on the phone with me if the extra time was needed. Very enthusiastic about the bike, as well.

    Jeremy, your name came up regarding fit. I am trying to decide between a 19" and 21". My legs are long and torso short. I ride a custom road bike with a 54 cm tt, 58 cm ctc/60 ctt st and 195 mm ht. My inseam is about 36" and I am 6'2". Eric thought a 19" with a 410 Thompson sp maybe the way to go. Any thoughts? I hope it's okay to post in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mbakes View Post
    On a side note, I just got off the phone with Eric and I have to say, he was extremely helpful and I think might have spent another half hour on the phone with me if the extra time was needed. Very enthusiastic about the bike, as well.

    Jeremy, your name came up regarding fit. I am trying to decide between a 19" and 21". My legs are long and torso short. I ride a custom road bike with a 54 cm tt, 58 cm ctc/60 ctt st and 195 mm ht. My inseam is about 36" and I am 6'2". Eric thought a 19" with a 410 Thompson sp maybe the way to go. Any thoughts? I hope it's okay to post in this thread.
    Awesome! We both love the HG probably more than we thought we would since we are both old-school hardtail guys.

    Yeah I think the 21 might be too long for you based on your measurements and your road bike. I think the 19 with a longer 410mm post should be a perfect fit....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post

    Here's a pic of my personal HobGoblin from my Thanksgiving morning ride yesterday. Pardon the crappy homemade chainstay guard and little bits of black tape protecting it from cable rub. My new chainstay guard and clear protector decals arrive today so it look prettier soon!
    Hey J, what's the build on that sucker? How do you like the wheels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddre View Post
    Hey J, what's the build on that sucker? How do you like the wheels?
    Hey Todd,

    Here it is off the top of my head.......

    X7 2x10 shifters, crank (38/24), RD, chain, cassette
    X9 FD
    Elixir R brakes with 180 front and 160 rear rotors
    Reba RL SOLO AIR tapered for 15mm thru axle
    FSA SLK carbon bars and FSA SLK stem
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    Selle Italia Flite Gel saddle
    Cole 29er Lite wheelset
    SB8's

    I really like the Cole wheelset. It's not the lightest, but its super stiff due to the spoke/hub interface that allows the spokes to be at high tension. It's been a super reliable wheelset. I think that I like them as much as my CrossMax 29 wheelset, which says a lot about them.

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    Jeremy, thanks for the help. A 19" it is then.

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    Can you tell us what wheel set will be shipping on the XO Hobgoblin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swildnm View Post
    Can you tell us what wheel set will be shipping on the XO Hobgoblin?
    Certainly. They are the Black Flag Pro's.

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    Sweet! Can't wait for pricing and full specs.

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    Just pulled the trigger on a HG. Look forward to it's arrival.

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    Just received notice the bike shipped and is supposed to arrive on Friday. I'm gone for the weekend so hope to have pics up Monday or Tuesday.

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    i can't wait to see pics

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    You mentioned the shock is going to be single air when the dual airs are gone. By chance will this change include a through axle?

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    Curious what other bikes you've owned and ridden in the past? Definitely start a thread with pics and a full report on the build quality and how it rides. I'm very curious on these, especially for the price and what you get for your $$, but honestly the suspension design isn't familiar to me and not much info on it and how it rides.

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    Just received notice the bike shipped and is supposed to arrive on Friday. I'm gone for the weekend so hope to have pics up Monday or Tuesday.
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    I have not been on a mountain bike in more than 10 years and perhaps longer. I've been road riding for the last 8 months. I still have my steel Barracuda ht with XT and a Specialized branded, carbon tube Rock Shock (which is shot). This is my first full suspension bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Curious what other bikes you've owned and ridden in the past? Definitely start a thread with pics and a full report on the build quality and how it rides. I'm very curious on these, especially for the price and what you get for your $$, but honestly the suspension design isn't familiar to me and not much info on it and how it rides.
    The Fezzari Hidden Peak appears to use the same suspension design. You may have better luck finding ride/design impressions on it as it has been out a while.

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    Actually it's the exact same design, from the same factory, only Airborne "tweaked" the geo a bit. So yeah kow about the Fezzari, but there pricing as consumer direct is quite above Airborne's, not much info out there on them still though.

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    The Fezzari Hidden Peak appears to use the same suspension design. You may have better luck finding ride/design impressions on it as it has been out a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScabFace View Post
    You mentioned the shock is going to be single air when the dual airs are gone. By chance will this change include a through axle?
    The thru-axle adds cost and will not be on this level HobGoblin.

    The XO version coming out soon (promise!) will have a Maxle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    Actually it's the exact same design, from the same factory, only Airborne "tweaked" the geo a bit. So yeah kow about the Fezzari, but there pricing as consumer direct is quite above Airborne's, not much info out there on them still though.
    There have been a few other meaningful tweaks done that differentiate it, including the seat-tube design and rocker arm connection on it, as well as a beefier lower rocker arm.

    The ride is somewhat similar in feel to the Maestro design.
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    Jeremy,

    Is it possible to convert the hub on the front wheel to accept a Maxle? As in, are there adapters for it or would the wheel need to be changed entirely if the fork was swapped out to a Maxle version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikr94 View Post
    Jeremy,

    Is it possible to convert the hub on the front wheel to accept a Maxle? As in, are there adapters for it or would the wheel need to be changed entirely if the fork was swapped out to a Maxle version?
    There's no way to convert the hub to 15mm thru-axle.

    Most hubs are either 9mm QR or 15mm Maxle, but not capable of both. There are some hubs on complete wheelsets that are like this, for example the CrossMax and Black Flags are convertible.
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    Hey guys...first post here from the frozen (and snowed-in) North....

    Mtnbikr94 was asking about a conversion. I was doing the same about my (awesome) new Goblin at my LBS. They said that you can gain "much of the advantage" by converting to a decent quality old fashioned bolt in axle. They said that the inconvenience is counterbalanced by the better steering acuity.

    Is this true? If so....how true?

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    BD, can you expand any further on that comment? I've owned and ridden Maestro, CVA and now KS Link, all mini link designs and I like how they ride and especially climb, very efficient. I'd love to be able to throw a leg over one of these so I could confidently recommend to local riders as we have quite a few guys getting into MTB who aren't too young and wishing for a FS, and this would I thin just suit them both in ride and $$.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    There have been a few other meaningful tweaks done that differentiate it, including the seat-tube design and rocker arm connection on it, as well as a beefier lower rocker arm.

    The ride is somewhat similar in feel to the Maestro design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx View Post
    BD, can you expand any further on that comment? I've owned and ridden Maestro, CVA and now KS Link, all mini link designs and I like how they ride and especially climb, very efficient. I'd love to be able to throw a leg over one of these so I could confidently recommend to local riders as we have quite a few guys getting into MTB who aren't too young and wishing for a FS, and this would I thin just suit them both in ride and $$.
    Sure, the design is somewhat similar to the Maestro (with the exception of the lower link and how it actuates). In terms of ride quality the two feel very close. Out of all of the suspensions I've ridden over the years it feels the closest to that, followed closely by an older DW Link bike I used to have. It climbs great, even out of the saddle. Braking seems to have little to no affect on it.

    It may be a placebo effect, but I feel that it corners better than my hardtail..........it just seems to grab and go. I've been a die-hard hardtail rider (for XC riding) for many years, and this bike is the one that seems to have changed my perception.

    Can you tell I'm excited about it? I'm trying hard to not sound like a fan-boy or a marketing guy but I've been having a lot of fun this year riding and working on it.........

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    Dammit, you're making me want one.

    I'll just keep saying my mantra *I already have a great bike, I already have a great bike.*
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddyFlyer View Post
    Certainly. They are the Black Flag Pro's.

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    Will the 20mm, and 9mm adapters be included like they are with the retail wheel sets, or will it include only the 15mm adapters for the included fork?

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    Sorry, double post, website weirdness....

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    So, has anyone received their HobGoblin yet and had a chance to get out and ride? I haven't had a chance to ride a Maestro suspended bike yet but have seriously considered a Giant Anthem as my next bike. To hear that the Airborne is similar makes me want to hear thoughts from those that have experienced both. C'mon, post up. There has to be someone out there...

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    Mine arrived but my mechanic is setting up for me since I am out of town for the weekend. I should have it on Monday. Will try to get out at the end of the day if its still light.

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