I just got some P35's. Plan on building a front wheel with a Knard for my Black Sheep.
If you're lucky enough to be in the mountains,
you're lucky enough.
You haven't experienced awesome until you've tried. 2.4 or wider on. A 35mm or wider rim.
Fwiw, when I initially designed the P35 it was going to be a 32mm wide rim. But Velocity felt they needed to go to 35mm to compete with the 35mm Salsa rim.
Originally Posted by Salomo
The P35 rim makes a big difference in the tire profile and the way it handles. It creates a much larger contact patch, and offers a huge amount of grip. So much so that I had to change my riding style... I was almost (for me) impossible to get the tire to break loose, so rather than drifting through turns, you have to push it harder, lots of body english and counter steering required to get the most from it.
Ultimately, I found a slightly narrrower rim (31-32mm) was more fun to ride. You get a lot of the advantages of the wider rim, great traction, higher volume, lower tire pressure, etc. But you can more easily roll the bike over and drift through turns more easily. Hope that helps.
Last edited by Kirk Pacenti; 12-15-2012 at 05:26 AM.
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Ok, that does help, thanks! I think that for me however the P35 might suit better, sinse it's actually the grip, or traction that I'm looking for. Trails that I mainly ride during the summer are quite narrow with lots of rocks and roots, very technical and quite low speed in general. Not a personal preference, it's just the way the trails are around here. Accents and decents are steep and short, so no high speed carving and/or drifting anyway, unfortunately.
I'm also planning to try out fully rigid set up, so anything that makes the tyre bigger is good. Of course living in Finland there's tons of snow out there right now, so a larger footprint would be an advantage also, at least that's my guess.
DL31 would be a very interesting option for my Tracer VP though when the wheelset needs updating.
Thank for the reply, I really appreciate it!
That's a very interesting take on it. Interesting.
Originally Posted by Kirk Pacenti
Btw, thanks for the p35! I'd like to try the tl28 soon.
Last edited by thickfog; 12-16-2012 at 06:04 PM.
I don't think that's a 29er rim. At least I haven't seen other than 26" versions anywhere. Quite heavy also. Would be nice if Mavic came up with a wide 29er rim though.
Unfortunately, the EX 729 rims only come in 26" size. Oddly, Mavic doesn't seem to make a 29er rim wider than 24mm.
Re: Wide 29er rims
This is unfortunate. The way umas hold a bead on tubless is incredible.
Originally Posted by sbruton7
They're still not listed on the Syntace website but these wheels do exist. I've held them in my hand. They are HUGE.
Originally Posted by Slow Danger
Based on OUTER width:
Syntace as Wheelset w/cx ray spokes
Just a couple that come to mind within a wheel system. There are more. The Syntace wheelsets look glorious. Bor is another german company you don't hear much about in North America, but are fantastic, as are AX lightness. They both make light, wide, fast wheels. Always consider application of weight over number of spoke holes though; for example I tour alot and weigh 165lbs, plus generally carry 15lbs on trips, so will get a rim engineered for 200lbs+ with 28 spokes in front and 32 in the rear, or 28/28. If I were racing I woud go minimum 24 front and 28 rear, or more if my rim was relatively wimpy/light. But I also torque the rear wheel like hell. Spokes would be aero cx-rays for racing and d'lites or DT 2.0 straight butted/Comp/Champion for touring or rough recreational riding. It's not fully usefull to spout off rims alone. We must also consider application in terms of terrain/desired durability/riding beahviour and the wheel as a whole system.
Can add a couple carbon rims:
Any new rims to add to this. I'm looking for a minimum of 35mm. Not carbon (price )
As little bike as possible, as silent as possible.
Latitude: 57º36' Highlands, Scotland
Velocity makes the Blunt at 35mm and the Dually at 45.
I think I was able to score a pair of 35mm Blunts for around 90 dollars each.
Any new info is going to be easier to find in the 29+ section than in a three year old thread.
Originally Posted by Velobike
The new Stans Flow MK3 seems like a decent option, though not labeled as a Plus rim/wheel.
Rim Internal Width: 29.0mm
Rim External Width: 32.3mm
Rim Depth: 16.0mm
Spokes: Sapim Force Black 2.0/1.7/1.8mm
Nipples: Sapim Secure Lock Alloy Black
Hole Count: 32-hole
Drilling Style: Symmetrical
Material: 6069 Aluminum Alloy
Brakes: Disc only
Wheelset Weight: 1807g (27.5") / 1918g (29")
Rim Weight: 459g (26") / 480g (27.5") / 527g (29")
ERD: 542mm (26") / 567mm (27.5") / 605mm (29")
ETRTO: 559x29.0 (26") / 584x29.0 (27.5") / 622x29.0 (29")
ISO: 26"x32.3mm / 27.5"x32.3mm / 29"x32.3mm
Valve: 35mm Presta
Spoke Tension: 125kgf (1225N)
Max Rider Weight: 250lbs (113 kilo)
Max Pressure with 2.35" Tire: 37psi
Max Pressure with 2.8" Tire: 26psi
Last edited by diylighter; 4 Weeks Ago at 04:15 PM.