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    why is everybody dumping their 29er Enve wheels...

    recently in the classifieds?
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    why did you make a thread for it? Why do people sell anything in the classifieds? What percentage of Enve wheelset owners that currently use MTBR are actually selling theirs?

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    Was it supposed to be secret? I just noticed they come up often lately, no need to get stressed Ninja.

    Is something new coming down the pike, are people switching to chinese hoops, is it because Obama might get re-elected?

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    seems like a legit question, especially for someone who may be interested in purchasing a set.

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    this thread : http://forums.mtbr.com/29er-bikes/ch...ms-673410.html might have something to do with it...

    seems affordable carbon rim-only options are becoming more readily available from asian sources... and allow building wheels with personal choice of hubs/spokes....

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    aren't the new rims UST? maybe people are upgrading.
    something about the west coast...it makes me wanna ride

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    why is everyone dumping Prius' and buying Leafs?

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    Banks foreclosing on wheel loans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveF View Post
    Banks foreclosing on wheel loans?
    This is the most likely reason- the wheel bubble burst and now everyone is buying wheels that they need rather than as an investment leaving those that over financed their carbon wheels at inflated prices unable to sell or refi to current low rates- this combined with high unemployment is forcing some unfortunate owners to short sell or face forclosure.
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    Race them hard for a year, then sell them while they still have value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by knottshore View Post
    This is the most likely reason- the wheel bubble burst and now everyone is buying wheels that they need rather than as an investment leaving those that over financed their carbon wheels at inflated prices unable to sell or refi to current low rates- this combined with high unemployment is forcing some unfortunate owners to short sell or face forclosure.
    This is just the beginning then. I waiting to buy until the bottom REALLY falls out. The opposite of what I did with my house.

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    I see (only) 2 sets and $1400-$1490 isn't exactly what I would call dumping......now if they were brand new at that price, that might be dumping

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfdog93 View Post
    I see (only) 2 sets and $1400-$1490 isn't exactly what I would call dumping......now if they were brand new at that price, that might be dumping
    selling a $2500 wheelset after 7 months & 20 rides for nearly half price isn't exactly reclaiming value.
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    we clearly need a residual value analysis

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    A better question is, why would someone would buy a $2500 wheelset?
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    Quote Originally Posted by amishscum View Post
    A better question is, why would someone would buy a $2500 wheelset?
    these things don't need to make sense

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    Could be shop employees or team members.
    I am immune to your disdain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    selling a $2500 wheelset after 7 months & 20 rides for nearly half price isn't exactly reclaiming value.
    Do these wheels have an odometer on them? How do you verify # of rides?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amishscum View Post
    A better question is, why would someone would buy a $2500 wheelset?
    nah... that's actually a pretty stoopid question.

    *hint* the answer is, "different strokes..."
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    I'm all for different strokes, but we're not talking about chocolate vs. vanilla. My point is the amount of performance gained (if any) in relation to cost.

    Not looking to argue though. I'm sure for some people, $2500 is a drop in the bucket and they don't even think twice about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by amishscum View Post
    I'm all for different strokes, but we're not talking about chocolate vs. vanilla. My point is the amount of performance gained (if any) in relation to cost.
    that's the different strokes part... you might buy stuff on some performance-to-cost ratio. others could for whatever reason they feel like. and yes, i'm sure disposable income plays a role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    nah... that's actually a pretty stoopid question.

    *hint* the answer is, "different strokes..."
    so I get this neg rep from Stroker Ace:
    You're always pompous and condescending about ultra-high priced wheelsets and wheel parts. Cut it out

    for saying different things work for different people and there's no reason to bag on other people's choices?
    Quote Originally Posted by pvd
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    I love my ENVE 29 AM rims (and bought them at employee price). The only reason I would get rid of them is to the the new UST version. At this point I'll wait until I kill one and use their replacement program for a pair of UST's.
    I've had them on my Sultan for 3 hard years and their only fault is that I have to work to make them tubeless (but they hold tight once they're there).

    I would consider the Haven Carbon, but really like having my choice of hubs.

    I would not consider some Chinese off-label rims for off-road without some substantial testing behind them. I am considering them for some cheepo disc tubular cyclocross race wheels, but if they break, I'm no more than 1/2 lap away from a spare wheel. If my mountain wheel breaks I could be in the middle of nowhere. I trust what ENVE puts out. I do not trust what a no-name chinese carbon factory puts out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealKTrain View Post
    Do these wheels have an odometer on them? How do you verify # of rides?
    there is no way to do it quantitatively. i was just taking the seller's word for it.
    i guess you might could confirm the purchase date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    so I get this neg rep from Stroker Ace:
    You're always pompous and condescending about ultra-high priced wheelsets and wheel parts. Cut it out

    for saying different things work for different people and there's no reason to bag on other people's choices?

    My "bag" didn't call any one individual out, and wasn't phrased in a condecending way. There's a difference between being incredulous and mean-sprited. You phrased your reply to my post in a condecending manner, like you were speaking to a child. Whatevs. Unfortunately, someone decided to call you on it. Bummer you got neg repped, but rep means shyte anyway. Here, have some +rep on me.

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