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    Who's riding an X-fusion fork or Manitou fork on their 29'r?

    Need to hear something on these forks before I shell out the money

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    I love my Manitou. ABS+ Dampener is one of the best feeling dampeners I've ever ridden. Wayyyyy better than motioncontrol or even blackbox moco and feels smoother than TST2. Can'tt compared to fox's fit dampener though.

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    I just switched out a Reba SL (2nd gen) for a Tower Expert on one of my bikes. I don't have enough rides for a complete review but I prefer the Tower. I know that's blasphemy for most but it rides really really well. I've run only Reba's for 7+ years. The downside to the Tower Expert is weight. It's probably a half a pound heavier. But, I will gladly take that for an improved ride.

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    I run old Manitou Minute with TPC damping, I think it was the Tower predecessor with the same chassis. I don't like how the compression adjustment knob turning -too stiff- and it's difficult to pump the air to get the right pressure but when it's done the plushness and compression ramp up through the travel is great. The smoothness is like you have less air than needed but when it went to the travel it provides enough compression platform to save you from stupid move to bottom up the fork.
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    I have the 2012 Manitou Tower Pro ABS Taperd steer tube 15mm axle I have it on my Salsa Spearfish 1. I have not put this in the reviews yet becuse I only have 3 rides on it and one of them being yesterday with the MILO HB lock-out & also yesterday I road the bike hard abd fast on some rocky rooty wet hard pack single track.

    I got this fork trying to save a little money, I wanted all the bennys of having taperd S/T and 15mm axle and having a remote lock-out was a must have. I looked at the marz and all the web pic show that fork with a remote L/O but when I went to buy one I found out that it doesn't come with it and that I would have to send the fork in to have it done,so that drives the cost of that fork back up ($100.00 for the remote & $100.00 to have it put on) to where I would be with the R/S or Fox. I had also been reading about the Tower Pro but I could only find most of my info on the 2011 and that was here on mtbr.

    They said that (in the reviews) the 2011 Tower Pro had week springs and most of the riders where between like 220lbs to 260lbs. they said the fork had a lot of dive while braking. I had read in one of the reviews about the 2012 having stiffer springs,I would like to look that one up again becuse I don't think the springs stiff enough on the 2012 But! I like a stiffer ride anyways. I am 170lbs with gear on.

    The red nob on the right leg has clicks from full open to lock-out I could not feel any differnce any where from full open till I got the nob to 3 O'clock pos than it was two clicks to lock-out I am maxed out on the air psi at 110.

    So yesterday I put on the MILO H/B lock-out and set the clicks 3 in from full open so that is what I have from there to lock-out. so it's open where you set it open but what I like is that it's so easy to take off the cap and turn the ABS where you want it. I'm going to go play with that and I might change to a stiffer spring I don't know about that yet!!! on my ride yesterday with the MILO and riding the bike like a race bike well I am loving this fork I will need more time on it, I know it's a plush fork and it's going to be good in the trail/all mountain area,but for someone like me that wants a stiffer platforum for long races might have to change the springs and they are cheep and every time I have called Manitou I have had to leave message but they call back right-a-way and they talk you thrugh things.

    I would buy this fork again even if I have to change the springs. You can buy a TST 15mm axle 29er fork for $550.00 w/o lock-out it's about 65grams heavier than the R/S ans Fox that will cost you $800.00 to $1,000.00 or more.

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    Rode a Tower Pro 2011, 80mm, QR and straight steerer for a year.

    Now riding a Float 29er 100mm, TA and tapered.

    Although the TA and taper add to stiffness that is noticeable, when comparing how they behave on the trail, I prefer the Tower by a long margin.

    if I could chose them on equal terms - equal technologies (TA, taper), I would go with the Manitou.

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    Thanks for the feedback.....any X-fusion slide owners out here??

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    Another Manitou fan here. Running a Drake Super Air with the 20mm TA on my RockHopper. As a super clyde, it's proven to be a very stout fork.
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    I have been running a manitou tower pro with a 20 mm for a little over 600 miles and really like it.

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    So much Manitou love in this thread.

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    More Tower love here! I have the 11' ST 9mm qr. I have figured the travel to be more in the 130mm range and not near the 140mm claimed travel. I have bottomed it a few times on some 3'-4' drops but I don't do this often enough to increase the compression or add air, as the ride is near perfect on all the other terrain I ride on!

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    The tower is a very good fork. My SS is has one on it and it get's more dirt time than any of my other bikes. Go forth and have no fear.

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    +1 on manitou love.

    I run a properly tuned manitou Doarado 2003.
    plush smooth and controlled.

    I use it for everything from road racing, street, xc, AM and DH. I don't need to change a single dial whatever I ride on as the design is so good.
    Why would I care about 150g of bike weight, I just ate 400g of cookies while reading this?

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    Manitou Tower Pro on two of my bikes. Cannot be happier!

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    I have a Tower Expert on my Salsa. Not quite broken in yet. Like it a lot, coming from rigid. My only comparison is 3 Marzocchis I've owned and a Judy, all old school stuff. The Tower is super plush and I don't even bother with air as the stock spring is firm enough, barely. If I ran air (I've done so once) I'd keep it about 10 psi. I took the brand new fork apart just to check fluid levels and it is super easy to work on. Like one of the others said, the feel of the rebound knob sucks.

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    I'll add to the Manitou love. Running a Minute with the Absolute + damper in it. Very nice ride. Comparable to my Reba Race that I used to run.

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    Been running Manitou Tower Pro 80mm on my Bandersnatch for a year. Solid fork. When I bought it I was over 205lbs so I ordered an Xfirm kit for it when I placed the fork order. Super simple swap and I love the fork.

    So, that brings me to the last week. I have been trying to decide which brand to put on my current SC Tallboy build and was leaning toward FOX since the Tallboy sports a FOX rear. After a week of delibIerations, I just ordered a tapered 2012 Tower Pro 120mm with 15QR instead. I figured the 2012 Tower is only going to be as good a performer as the '11 has been and the taper and 15QR can only add to the stiffness. In the end, I just couldn't justify the expense of the other options.

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    Hal,I couldn't justify the cost of the other brans also. I have a little more time on my 2012 Tower pro it's 100mm it also has the TST and 15mm QR and I love this fork/bike set-up I have. you're going to love your new bike!

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    I have a Drake Super Air 120mm TA on my Paradox and a Minute 100mm TA on my SS. Both with the new dampers. I've owned these forks for nearly 4 years. They're fantastic forks, work very well, stiff, simple and easy to overhaul. Don't think twice about going Manitou.

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    Appreciate all the input here and very timely as I'm seriously considering pulling the trigger on the new Tower Pro and so far all the reviews I can find have been very positive.

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    I currently run a Manitou Minute Expert on my 26er and I'm very happy with it.

    For my new 29er rig I've been considering Fox Float 32, and RockShox Revelation, but I ended up ordering a Tower Pro tapered QR15 120 mm, as I only find positive reviews about it.

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    solitone,

    Could you let us know how the fork is working out. Is a taped steerer the way to go these days, or will I even know the difference from a straight steerer. Thanks.

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    Hail to Manitou

    Another big Manitou supporter here. Rode a MARS, SKAREB and a MINUTE MRD on my previous 1999 Litespeed Obed (26"). Now I have a Lynskey Ridgeline 29er with a 2010 TOWER w/ 9mm QR. Looking to upgrade to a 2012 TOWER 15mm to stiffen up the front end.

    The only thing that bugs me about the 2010 TOWER is that I get a creak or a click on the rebound movement of the fork, not the compression. I only hear this when the ABS+ is on 3 clicks or higher from lockout. I've taken it apart, checked everything, lubed everything, but to no avail. Other than that, I like the adjust-ability that the ABS gives me (195 lb xc), but if I'm not listening to some tunes on my rides, it bugs the hell out of me.

    I also hear that Manitou's 15mm QR is a great improvement over the other designs. Any comments?
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    Quote Originally Posted by joefi View Post
    solitone,

    Could you let us know how the fork is working out.
    I haven't received it yet. It should arrive on end of June or early July, together with my new frame and some other components.

    As soon as I'll have tried it out, I'll post my impression.

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    Is a taped steerer the way to go these days, or will I even know the difference from a straight steerer. Thanks.
    Can't comment on this, because this fork will be the 1st taperd I own, and the frame will be my 1st 29er.

    From what I've read, a taperd steer is the way to go with 29er's. Especially with a travel like mine (120 mm), the gain in stiffness should be appreciable.

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    Add me to the +1 for some Manitou Tower Pro love....

    Started riding almost 2yrs ago, spend the first six or so months riding my brother RM Element 50 that he outfitted with all Fox Float stuff (think it was float). The bike was very compliant and rode well. I was riding this while I was building up my bike that I now have the Tower on.

    Approximately 3 months after I built my bike, the RST M29 I had developed a bad leak (cracked v-brake boss) and I could not get a hold of anyone at RST so I picked up a 2011 Manitou Tower Pro 100mm QR for $386 to my door. Put it on and started riding it at 205#.

    With the Medium spring that comes with the '11 the ride was good enough but I had to run the PSI at 70-90psi to get a good ride out of it. The platform was not linear at all and I would spike if I went outside that range or complete bottom the fork.

    I made the call to Manitou and within a day I was talking with one of their techs that was about my size and rode trails similar to me and he was running the FIRM spring at about 40psi (which he liked) he said that my LBS could easily get the FIRM Spring for me and install easily and if they had any questions he gave me his number and said he could help them with anything.

    I did that and after about a month of playing with things I finally got the fork dialed in with about 65psi, mid-clicks from lockout and having the rebound at about 15%. I did my first race with the bike about two weeks ago and the fork performed B-E-A-UTIFULLY in the rock, chunk, whops, and single track. The more I ride this fork and the more crap I throw at it the more and more I fall in love with it.

    Just from the CS perspective alone I will be buying Manitou, Hayes, Answer, Sun Ringle products again. Planning on starting a FS 29er build over the winter and she will have a Tower Pro 100mm T/A TS, Hayes Stroker Trail (white), Sun Ringle Black Flag Pro (Gold), and whatever else I can get from them on that XC machine.

    I have ridden Reba, Fox, and Marz, out of all of them I still love the Manitou the most. It takes some fiddling for a while to get it setup but once you are done, damn does that thing just disappear under you and allow you to just ride like you want!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by joefi View Post
    Could you let us know how the fork is working out. Is a taped steerer the way to go these days, or will I even know the difference from a straight steerer. Thanks.
    Yes, a tapered steerer is the way to go, "If you have a frame with a tapered head tube." Why wouldn't you?

    That said, I've got both a 120mm. Minute 29 with 20mm. (2010) and a new 2012 Tower Pro which is also 120mm. and has a QR15. I have ridden them both on the same frame, a Banshee Paradox and I can't realistically tell the difference.

    I'll add to the overwhelming support for Manitou though. I'd happily buy one again. Oh yes, I did.
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    What would be better for a clyde (260#): a Tower Expert or a Tower Pro?? I ride a Minute Expert on my 26er and definitely love it...best fork I have ridden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daves4mtb View Post
    I rode an xfusion Velvet fork on my ventana 650b for over a year. It was inexpensive relative to other forks and performed very well. It is simple to set up, was not flexy, and generally worked very well. No quality issues. They seem to have a reputation for high quality and good customer service. I'd definitely buy another.
    I have no doubt that the Velvet is a good fork. However, it is a 26" fork and this forum is for "29er Components". The only X Fusion 29" fork currently available is the Slide 29 and is only available with 9mm. QR dropouts which I personally would not consider.
    The trouble with having an open mind is that people will insist on trying to put things in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fbabrove View Post
    What would be better for a clyde (260#): a Tower Expert or a Tower Pro?? I ride a Minute Expert on my 26er and definitely love it...best fork I have ridden.
    Either would be fine for you. The Tower Pro is essentially an air sprung fork and therefore is lighter than the Expert which is essentially a coil sprung fork with air pre-load. It is the same as your Minute Expert. Some people prefer the feel of a coil fork. Others prefer the lighter weight of an air fork. if you don't mind the bit of extra weight the Expert is cheaper. It's your choice. At your weight you would probably need to change the spring kit on either fork.
    The trouble with having an open mind is that people will insist on trying to put things in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie View Post
    Either would be fine for you. The Tower Pro is essentially an air sprung fork and therefore is lighter than the Expert which is essentially a coil sprung fork with air pre-load. It is the same as your Minute Expert. Some people prefer the feel of a coil fork. Others prefer the lighter weight of an air fork. if you don't mind the bit of extra weight the Expert is cheaper. It's your choice. At your weight you would probably need to change the spring kit on either fork.
    Ronnie's advice is solid. There is a great thread concerning Clyde's and the Tower Pro. It does require a stiffer spring which unfortunately wasn't available for a little while. You can order them now.

    Personally, I prefer the feel of a coil spring so I've come to love my Tower Expert. It's really personal preference. I'm not super concerned with weight which IMHO is the only downside to the Expert. They definitely weigh more as one would expect. However, every time I ride it, I realize how little I care. I would rather spend a bunch shaving weight on wheels etc.

    YMMV

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    Ronnie and Hsakkire, thanks to both of you for responding and for the input. I do love the feel of the Minute Expert. The nice thing about the Expert is that it isn't extremely heavier than the Pro. I get that every gram counts, and being that this 29er is my first custom build, I am totally watching the grams. I know that about 260 grams is a lot of savings, but at least the Expert isn't a 5 pound, stiff clunker like my old stock Suntour from my 26er. I'll continue my price hunting, and if it is going to be around a $100 dollar difference I will go with the Expert, as that is $100 for other components.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fbabrove View Post
    Ronnie and Hsakkire, thanks to both of you for responding and for the input. I do love the feel of the Minute Expert. The nice thing about the Expert is that it isn't extremely heavier than the Pro. I get that every gram counts, and being that this 29er is my first custom build, I am totally watching the grams. I know that about 260 grams is a lot of savings, but at least the Expert isn't a 5 pound, stiff clunker like my old stock Suntour from my 26er. I'll continue my price hunting, and if it is going to be around a $100 dollar difference I will go with the Expert, as that is $100 for other components.
    Check the shops on ebay... I was able to pick up my 9mm QR 100mm Tower Pro (2011) for $386 to my door on sale. Seems like most are running right around $400 for the QR and around $430 for the T/A. If you are looking at the Expert then you can pretty easily drop $75.

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    Yea I have been all over ebay, waiting for the right deal. Does anyone have an info on the X-Fusion Slide RL, because there is one with a remote for 287 on Amazon. Looks pretty good, especially if the weight is accurate at 1814g. Not sure how it will hold up for a heavy clyde though.

    I did find the Tower Pro on Upgrade Cycle works for 389. I am going to keep searching for an Expert for about $300 or under, but if not I will probably opt for the Pro.

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    The Tower Pro QR15 Tapered in100mm seems to be hard to come by. Everyone is out of stock. I got on Universals "notify when back in stock" list and they sent me an email saying it was then by the next day when I went to order they were out again

    I guess I can see if my LBS can order directly from Hayes

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    Thanks for the update, pamt. I haven't decided between the standard QR and the QR15 yet. I have a tapered headtube but I will most likey end up getting straight steerer and use an adapter on the bottom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fbabrove View Post
    Thanks for the update, pamt. I haven't decided between the standard QR and the QR15 yet. I have a tapered headtube but I will most likey end up getting straight steerer and use an adapter on the bottom.
    I think you would be better off waiting to get a tapered fork. The tapered headtube/fork combo really does make a huge difference

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    yeah wait for the tapered if you can. Have your LBS contact Manitou and see if they can get one (normally the will go through QBP) and maybe see if they will pricematch on the internet.

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    That $287 fork is tapered BTW. Or I would have bought it already!

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    Yea it is tapered, and since everyone is telling me to go with tapered, I am considering it. I would buy it right now if I was sure that it is suitable for a heavy rider and that it is comprable to a Tower Expert. Does anyone of the X-Fusion Slide is on par?

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    I just email X-Fusion, asking about the Slide RL 100mm Taper (the one on Amazon for $287), and I got a response within 25 minutes! I asked if the fork will handle my weight for my riding style (rocky/rooty, minimal drops and no jumping) and the response came from John, and he says the fork will handle my weight just fine (as long as I keep the air spring pumped accordingly). I think I am going with this fork.

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    I sent an email yesterday and no response. I was asking questions about damper mods and oil volume and weights. Stuff I want to know before I buy a fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fbabrove View Post
    I just email X-Fusion, asking about the Slide RL 100mm Taper (the one on Amazon for $287), and I got a response within 25 minutes! I asked if the fork will handle my weight for my riding style (rocky/rooty, minimal drops and no jumping) and the response came from John, and he says the fork will handle my weight just fine (as long as I keep the air spring pumped accordingly). I think I am going with this fork.
    What are they going to tell you? " No don't buy our fork." I'm sure it's a nice piece of equipment but it is only available with a 9mm. QR dropout. I personally will never buy one of those again. It's a throwback to road bikes and are not as stiff as a through axle. For next year they have shown their forks with QR15.
    The trouble with having an open mind is that people will insist on trying to put things in it.

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    I'm going to buy a qr fork because the flex has never bothered me and I can't afford a new wheel.

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    X-Fusion Gets my Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by fbabrove View Post
    I just email X-Fusion, asking about the Slide RL 100mm Taper (the one on Amazon for $287), and I got a response within 25 minutes! I asked if the fork will handle my weight for my riding style (rocky/rooty, minimal drops and no jumping) and the response came from John, and he says the fork will handle my weight just fine (as long as I keep the air spring pumped accordingly). I think I am going with this fork.
    I just started riding (~300miles) an X-Fusion Slide w/ remote lockout. It rides quite a bit smoother than my Reba RL. It's just a solid fork. At the price point, I think it is nearly impossible to beat. I'm no suspension expert but, I really like the ride of the Slide 29. FWIW, I weigh 210 and I don't notice any flex. So, have fun with your decision.

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    My Tower Pro arrived yesterday so I'm really pumped to get it installed and ride this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pamt View Post
    My Tower Pro arrived yesterday so I'm really pumped to get it installed and ride this weekend.
    Sweet!! Post some pics of it on the bike when you get it all setup. Took mine on my second race last weekend on a very rocky course... All I had to do was click the ABS+ dial one click for a firmer ride and that platforming changed significantly while going through the rock gardens (climbing and descending). I am still constantly impressed by this fork and have no gripes. Next bike will be FS and will have the 100mm with the OR15 hexlock and tapered steerer. They have definitely won my patronage so the next bike will be outfitted with Answer/Hayes/Manitou/SunRingle stuff!...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregnash View Post
    Sweet!! Post some pics of it on the bike when you get it all setup. Took mine on my second race last weekend on a very rocky course... All I had to do was click the ABS+ dial one click for a firmer ride and that platforming changed significantly while going through the rock gardens (climbing and descending). I am still constantly impressed by this fork and have no gripes. Next bike will be FS and will have the 100mm with the OR15 hexlock and tapered steerer. They have definitely won my patronage so the next bike will be outfitted with Answer/Hayes/Manitou/SunRingle stuff!...
    Will do and I'm already running Sun Ringle Charger wheels on the bike so now all I need to do is add a set of Hayes brakes and I'll be totally "Hazed"

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    Don't forget to throw some Answer bars in there as well!

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    manitou dorado here, I have ridden fox, marzocchi, cannondale lefty, rock shock... manitou knows there stuff, enuff said...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pamt View Post
    I think you would be better off waiting to get a tapered fork. The tapered headtube/fork combo really does make a huge difference
    Hay I have not been on here in a while.. But I'll 2nd that above having the 15mm and tapered headtube and steer tube does make a huge difference.

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    Here's an up date.. I have now finshed two races "well kinda of" I did 8hrs of a 10hr race and a 100miler. At first I was thinking that this fork was too soft (I steel like my HT rigid bike)man was I wrong!! in the 10 hr race I had the psi at 120 and droped it down to 115 and it was too stiff. I took the bike on the 100 miler and I had the psi set at 110 and wow I am steel going to go to 100 on the psi.. my bike worked well at both races but I didn't other than the HB lockout was sticking open and I was having truble locking it out when I wanted to stand up and hammer but that was becuse of mud! it rained fro my first 50 miles of the 100.

    As a side note the felx of the 9mm QRs didn't bother me till I got the Tower Pro,I also have a Rock Shox Reba Race it was on my HT but I gave it to my wife and I would rather have that bike rigid I can't stand it bobing up & down even thou it only 10mm or 15mm If I ever want a suspenion fork on a HT bike it will most likely be a Tower Pro Fork Taperd/15mmQR.. I can go faster through rocky areas and I don't have to worry about being so damm picky about my lines with the Tower Pro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david8613 View Post
    manitou dorado here, I have ridden fox, marzocchi, cannondale lefty, rock shock... manitou knows there stuff, enuff said...
    Even if it didn't work (I'm sure it does) the Dorado is hands down the coolest looking fork on the planet right now

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    I can add my support for the Manitou Tower Expert. Got mine about a month ago for just under $300, added the firm spring kit and it totaled $320. Mine came with the aluminum steerer and weighs just over 4 lbs after being cut and installed by my LBS. Also got a shock pump and started experimenting with all the settings. I weigh about 220 lbs and have the firm spring in a Tower 100mm model on a HT 29er and I'm running about 25 lbs of air in it. I thinking of reducing the air to around 10-15 lbs to soften it up just a tad. From my own experience and other posts here I would recommend the Expert model over the Pro since the spring does most of the work and would benefit more from the stiffer spring swap, and so I believe that the Tower Expert may be the better fit for a larger rider like me.

    I got in touch with Manitou CS before during and after the purchase and the tech there was very prompt and helpful with his replies. I also considered the Rock Shox products, Recon Gold and Reba and the Xfusion Slide. Decided on the Manitou since I believe it to be a better fork than the Recon Gold, just a shade under the more expensive Reba and the Xfusion is not the current version with their improved mid-level damping which won't be available till the fall.

    When I spotted the Manitou for under $300 I jumped on it. I ride a lot of relatively flat but very rooty stuff here in Florida, but also just got back from 3 days riding at DuPont SF in NC. The Tower Expert has performed flawlessly for me and has been a BIG improvement over the Suntour boat-anchor that originally came on my bike. As one poster wrote on another thread, "once you upgrade to quality parts they just disappear, they do their jobs and you don't think about it anymore." I can agree with that idea. The Tower handles all the trail can throw at it, including standing up for climbs without bobbing. And that is without locking the fork out. As far as the remote goes I would not do it. You can just as easily reach down to the top of the fork to adjust damping setting and don't have to stop the bike to do so. With the remote I think you loose some of the adjustability of the fork if I'm not mistaken.

    Any further questions you may have about Manitou's products just email them and they will respond and should be helpful to you.

    If you are thinking of the Xfusion Slide check into their mid-level damping feature and when it will be available.

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    I thought my 80mm Tower Pro was a damn good fork.....

    ...so, I bought a new 120mm version for my Tallboy build. It is as good as anything out there.....expecially with the tapered steerer and new 15QR. The 15QR is super simple and is the best design out there IMO. If you like the previous Tower Pro....you will love the new ones.
    The more you ride it, the lighter it gets.
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    I also have a Manitou Tower Pro. It's awesome. Best fork I've had the pleasure of riding with. Worth the money. I bought it because it was cheaper than the Reba and am happy I did. I personally can't say anything bad about it. You should get it.

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    I had been in the market for a new fork and was pretty much hell bent on the Fox FIT but due to this thread and the praise of Manitou I started looking really hard at the Tower Pro. I found a great deal and thought I would take a chance. Although I only have about 10 hours on it I am completely blown away by this forks performance. Set up was easy and although Manitou suggest about a 20 hour break in period this thing worked and worked well right out of the box.
    A big thanks goes out to all the Manitou heads on here and you have just picked up another follower.
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    Glad to hear you are enjoying it so far. Wait until you REALLY get it dialed and get a chance to see what it can do. Once you get it dialed it is amazing what a click or two of the ABS+ will do to how the fork responds. Found this out while doing my last race and man it definitely made a difference when I wanted it to.

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    I have really been enjoying my x-fusion not too adjustable but very controlled, pretty supple out of the box. It's not the stiffest fork in the world, standing still I can make it flex pretty easily but I haven't noticed it riding. Remote lockout is great, I'd rather have fork mounted just to save weight though.

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    I'm glad you like your fork. I've been very happy with mine. The performance has been great and it gives me confidence when riding. The one and only issue I ever had was with the stanchions discoloring. I contacted manitou and they told me to wipe some engine oil on them, 5w-30 to be exact, and after doing so they were fine. It was probably just a fluke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idinomac View Post
    I would buy this fork again even if I have to change the springs. You can buy a TST 15mm axle 29er fork for $550.00 w/o lock-out it's about 65grams heavier than the R/S ans Fox that will cost you $800.00 to $1,000.00 or more.
    My Reba RLT w/ 15mm cost me $450 brand new so I'm not sure where you're getting your prices from.
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    good information

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    I threw a 2011 model 9mm QR 100mm Manitou Tower Pro on my Monocog Flight 29er a few days ago. Initial impressions: as another mentioned above, the fork tends to disappear during riding, it does its job and you forget it's there. The ABS+ knob does a great job and makes compression damping adjustments instantaneous. When compression damping is set to full stiff, it's hard to tell the difference between this and a rigid fork, which is a good thing.

    The rebound damping is equally as responsive, but since it doesn't "click" when you adjust it, it's hard to tell how much you have dialed in without marking the knob.

    For preload, I'm running 90 psi @ 180 lbs bodyweight (I carry a heavy backpack) and the stock spring works well. The fork is plush, light, and nice.

    No regrets on this fine fork for $350. I do regret spending within $100 of that on a Rock Shox Recon Silver for my other bike first. Had I experienced this fork first, I'd have bought one for each bike. No knock on the Recon - it's just that the Manitou is that much better.

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    Black Tower Pro availability?

    Looking to pick up a Tower Pro 120mm 15qr tapered fork for a Canfield YS. Seems like it will be a great fork for this bike and a big improvement over the old Reba 9mm I've got on there now. Supposedly these forks were available in either black or white but I cannot find a black one. Not a fan of the white bike components. Anyone know where I could find one?

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    I was in your same situation. I was unable to find a black Tower Pro but you can find a black Tower Expert. That's just my experience. I came to think that those two models are only available in those colors. The Pro is in white the Expert in black.. I'm hoping I'm wrong and you find what you're looking for. The Tower Pro is a really nice fork by the way. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slsl123 View Post
    Looking to pick up a Tower Pro 120mm 15qr tapered fork for a Canfield YS. Seems like it will be a great fork for this bike and a big improvement over the old Reba 9mm I've got on there now. Supposedly these forks were available in either black or white but I cannot find a black one. Not a fan of the white bike components. Anyone know where I could find one?
    The Tower Pro is indeed available in black. I'd suggest that you contact Manitou and ask where you can get one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie View Post
    Yes, a tapered steerer is the way to go, "If you have a frame with a tapered head tube." Why wouldn't you?

    That said, I've got both a 120mm. Minute 29 with 20mm. (2010) and a new 2012 Tower Pro which is also 120mm. and has a QR15. I have ridden them both on the same frame, a Banshee Paradox and I can't realistically tell the difference.

    I'll add to the overwhelming support for Manitou though. I'd happily buy one again. Oh yes, I did.
    I also have a 2010 120mm non-tapered Minute w/ 20mm and the 2012 140mm tapered w/ 15mm. I agree its pretty close to a toss up, but if I had to pick, I'd say the 120" is stiffer. My ideal would be the 140mm tapered w/ 20mm.

    It saddens me that Manitou caved to the 15mm bandwagon, to appease a few people who couldn't be bothered to pull out an allen wrench to remove their front wheel. I spend more time fiddling with the new 15mm system than I do with the old 20mm hex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada 29er View Post
    I also have a 2010 120mm non-tapered Minute w/ 20mm and the 2012 140mm tapered w/ 15mm. I agree its pretty close to a toss up, but if I had to pick, I'd say the 120" is stiffer. My ideal would be the 140mm tapered w/ 20mm.

    It saddens me that Manitou caved to the 15mm bandwagon, to appease a few people who couldn't be bothered to pull out an allen wrench to remove their front wheel. I spend more time fiddling with the new 15mm system than I do with the old 20mm hex.
    Earlier this year I started looking around for a new fork for a new frame that came with a tapered head tube. I wanted a 20mm. front axle as I own a custom built wheelset with a front hub that is not convertible. I quickly learnt that in the trail/AM section a 20mm. axle has become a rare beast, across all manufacturers.

    I've been riding Manitou equipment for many years so I contacted them by e-mail with my required "specifications" for a new fork. Basically a Tower Pro with a 20mm. axle. The reply explained that the reasons they decide on QR15 is that the industry as a whole has made this decision and that it is what bicycle manufacturers are asking for as OEM equipment. This is probably the largest part of their business and don't forget they are a business. They also mentioned that due to the move towards a tapered steerer, they were forced to redesign the lower casting. The reverse arch of the old casting did not clear the larger crown. Because of the diminishing demand for 20mm. an additional casting probably was not a good business decision.

    That said, I'm of the opinion that the QR15 is more than adequate for the application. I have two Banshee Paradox frames with these two forks fitted and I can't honestly tell the difference. I rarely remove my front wheels. I carry the bikes with them attached so I never minded the 20mm. pinch bolt system. However, I'm at a loss how you can suggest that the QR15 is more "fiddly" than the 20mm.
    The trouble with having an open mind is that people will insist on trying to put things in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie View Post
    However, I'm at a loss how you can suggest that the QR15 is more "fiddly" than the 20mm.
    I also tend to leave my wheels on for transport, so I have only installed the new 15QR once, but it took my a good 10 minutes of fiddling to get it right, following all the instructions, this side up, 90 d rotation, etc. The problem was there was still play in the axle even after it was locked and tightened. I honestly don't know what I did differently to get it to finally work.

    I seem to be the only person who didn't mind the 20mm pinch bolt system. Yes there were a couple of allen bolts to tighten, but the system was BOMBER! Stiffest, burliest axle by far on any 9er fork. The 30 extra seconds required, who cares?

    I also had several Rock Shox 20mm Maxle forks. After the brake rotor clearance issue and a ruined DT440 front hub trying to get it to fit, never again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie View Post
    The reply explained that the reasons they decide on QR15 is that the industry as a whole has made this decision and that it is what bicycle manufacturers are asking for as OEM equipment.
    We've seen this movie before, most of the time it seems the poorer quality standard wins out, convenience over quality:

    1980s
    Betamax v. VHS = VHS

    1990s
    Vinyl v. CD = CD

    2000s
    CD v. mp3 = mp3

    The bike industry is not quite as bad as the music industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada 29er View Post
    We've seen this movie before, most of the time it seems the poorer quality standard wins out, convenience over quality:

    1980s
    Betamax v. VHS = VHS

    1990s
    Vinyl v. CD = CD

    2000s
    CD v. mp3 = mp3

    The bike industry is not quite as bad as the music industry.
    Not really the correct "forum" for this discussion but I guess there are parallels.

    I consider myself an "audiophile". During the 1980s I had high end analogue(vinyl) equipment with hundreds of dollars wroth of tone-arms and cartridges. Initially I wouldn't touch a digital front-end. There was however potential in the CD and cleverer guys than me went about correcting the problems associated with digital. Long story short, for decades now I have been blown away by stunning digital music reproduction systems. As for MP3, it has it's place as well. The quality is not as good but I don't want to work out at the gym with a HiFi system strapped to my waist.

    So the right tool for the job. The 9mm. QR worked fairly well for a long time, even for early downhill riders. I believe that a well designed QR15 is more than up to the task.
    The trouble with having an open mind is that people will insist on trying to put things in it.

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