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    White g2 fork options, help!

    So I have a trek x caliber 7. It came with a white xc30 and I am looking for upgrade options. It needs to be a 1 1/8 straight, 100mm travel and air. Ideally I want it in white both the crown and lowes like my stock fork. Any thoughts??

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    No way in hell id buy manitou forks from Taiwan but manitou is best bang for buck option to get while forks.

    You don't need "g2" specifically. G2 is fork offset, which 51mm offset forks are becoming more and more common. But for white versions your kind of stuck between manitou and fox.

    I have basically same bike (2012 before name change to xcal) and run manitou marvel forks. Love them!!! Handling vs "g2" is the same. But air with negative coil spring and the most user friendly tuneable damper system there is.

    Would not worry about the lockout switch. Easy to reach forks to do it and though I have the Milo switch (bought it separately) I'm not a giant fan. Like the remote for my riding style and trails but the way the handle is designed has the cable just looking ridiculous in its routing. Functional, simple, and light weight but that cable thing bugs me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geo_08 View Post
    So I have a trek x caliber 7. It came with a white xc30 and I am looking for upgrade options. It needs to be a 1 1/8 straight, 100mm travel and air. Ideally I want it in white both the crown and lowes like my stock fork. Any thoughts??
    Have you taken a look at fleabay? I vaguely remember seeing lot of g2 take offs last time I was in the market...including white rockshox forks. Fork would def be a worth wild upgrade on your bike, as well as a wheelset that accepts a 15mm thru axle. Dont overlook 120mm options since travel can easily be reduced. Probably hold its value better since it appeals to a wider range of buyers. Just a thought

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    I realize G2 is simply a 51mm offset. For that reason the x-fusion slide caught my eye. I am having a hard time finding it in white with a straight steerer. I will look into manitou, but when I looked before I don't remember seeing any with a 51mm offset. I realize I don't need the offset, but I am realty digging how the bike handles right now.

    Reba has always been my go to fork, but RS says they didn't make any in white with the offsets. I sorta hate the black sanctions too.

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    Manitou isn't 51mm offset, its 48mm offset and your not going to notice a single difference in handling due to a very small offset difference. The performance upgrade to a better fork is going to improve things so much over stock forks.
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    Thoughts on the Minute over the Marvel?

    I agree that the fork will make a huge difference, if possible I was hoping to find that nice fork meeting the geometry criteria.

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    The Marvel Pro is available with 51mm offset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigris99 View Post
    No way in hell id buy manitou forks from Taiwan but manitou is best bang for buck option to get while forks.

    You don't need "g2" specifically. G2 is fork offset, which 51mm offset forks are becoming more and more common. But for white versions your kind of stuck between manitou and fox.

    I have basically same bike (2012 before name change to xcal) and run manitou marvel forks. Love them!!! Handling vs "g2" is the same. But air with negative coil spring and the most user friendly tuneable damper system there is.

    Would not worry about the lockout switch. Easy to reach forks to do it and though I have the Milo switch (bought it separately) I'm not a giant fan. Like the remote for my riding style and trails but the way the handle is designed has the cable just looking ridiculous in its routing. Functional, simple, and light weight but that cable thing bugs me.
    Quote Originally Posted by drz400sm View Post
    Have you taken a look at fleabay? I vaguely remember seeing lot of g2 take offs last time I was in the market...including white rockshox forks. Fork would def be a worth wild upgrade on your bike, as well as a wheelset that accepts a 15mm thru axle. Dont overlook 120mm options since travel can easily be reduced. Probably hold its value better since it appeals to a wider range of buyers. Just a thought
    Quote Originally Posted by eb1888 View Post
    The Marvel Pro is available with 51mm offset.
    I see them in 15, do they make them as a 9? I have a sweet set of king hubs I am using.

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    I'm using marvel in 9mm qr with straight steerer
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    Quote Originally Posted by tigris99 View Post
    No way in hell id buy manitou forks from Taiwan but manitou is best bang for buck option to get while forks.

    You don't need "g2" specifically. G2 is fork offset, which 51mm offset forks are becoming more and more common. But for white versions your kind of stuck between manitou and fox.

    I have basically same bike (2012 before name change to xcal) and run manitou marvel forks. Love them!!! Handling vs "g2" is the same. But air with negative coil spring and the most user friendly tuneable damper system there is.

    Would not worry about the lockout switch. Easy to reach forks to do it and though I have the Milo switch (bought it separately) I'm not a giant fan. Like the remote for my riding style and trails but the way the handle is designed has the cable just looking ridiculous in its routing. Functional, simple, and light weight but that cable thing bugs me.
    Quote Originally Posted by drz400sm View Post
    Have you taken a look at fleabay? I vaguely remember seeing lot of g2 take offs last time I was in the market...including white rockshox forks. Fork would def be a worth wild upgrade on your bike, as well as a wheelset that accepts a 15mm thru axle. Dont overlook 120mm options since travel can easily be reduced. Probably hold its value better since it appeals to a wider range of buyers. Just a thought
    Quote Originally Posted by tigris99 View Post
    I'm using marvel in 9mm qr with straight steerer
    With or without the 51?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geo_08 View Post
    I see them in 15, do they make them as a 9? I have a sweet set of king hubs I am using.
    Nope. See if your hubs can be converted to 15mm.

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    You may wish to call Trek to verify, but I believe your X-Cal has a 44mm headtube. It will accept tapered forks with an EC44 lower portion of a headset. This will greatly broaden the range of forks that you can use. Yes, the lower cup will slacken your bike by a 1/2º and raise your BB by 3-4mm.

    I ran a tapered fork on my '11 Mamba frame which was the in the line of frames before the switch by Trek to the X-Cal tier of bikes. It only had 44m of offset and it was set 120mm, but I preferred the handling if the bike after I swapped to that fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geo_08 View Post
    With or without the 51?

    As of last check manitou doesn't even make a 51mm offset yet. Ya NOT 51mm though. 48mm, splits the difference and love it. Can't tell a single difference besides bike rides much better with good forks lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geo_08 View Post
    I realize G2 is simply a 51mm offset. For that reason the x-fusion slide caught my eye. I am having a hard time finding it in white with a straight steerer. I will look into manitou, but when I looked before I don't remember seeing any with a 51mm offset. I realize I don't need the offset, but I am realty digging how the bike handles right now.

    Reba has always been my go to fork, but RS says they didn't make any in white with the offsets. I sorta hate the black sanctions too.
    Yes they did. My 2010 Rockshox Reba XX was 51mm offset, in white and straight steerer. Freaking light too....at 1647g, with 7-inch steer tube, super-plush 100mm of Dual Air damping and X-loc hydraulic lockout. One of the sweetest forks they EVER made! Keep on looking. They can be had for well under $300.Name:  reba_xx_29.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by tigris99 View Post
    As of last check manitou doesn't even make a 51mm offset yet. Ya NOT 51mm though. 48mm, splits the difference and love it. Can't tell a single difference besides bike rides much better with good forks lol.
    Broaden your check and call them like I did. They will tell you they have stock in 51mm offset for the Marvel Pro.

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    here you go boy..

    link to a white fork, 51mm offset, straight or tapered your choice with 9MM QR or 15maxle ..this should make you happy.

    Manitou 2014

    i have been doing a lot of digging around this subject from a past few days..for my xcal 6, came with a ST xcm
    but i cant afford , not even the reba

    Bike24 - RockShox Reba RL Solo Air 29" Fork 100mm 51mm Offset Straight 9QR 2015 - black

    also, below is an answer from cane creek,
    just in case you want a tapered fork fr your bike(trek x-cal series)..the headset that ur bike will take is ZS44 TOP & EC44 Bottom, this will add exactly 12mm of extra stack height to your set up

    However, this could be negated if you get this new fork with a lil (12mm to be exact) shorter axel to crown distance then the current xc 30( i dnt know the A to C)

    hope all this enfo helps you..

    I will be happy with your old suspension, in case you wanna sell..hopefully will be better than the dam xcm!!

    Amit

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    Quote Originally Posted by amit kakade View Post
    here you go boy..

    link to a white fork, 51mm offset, straight or tapered your choice with 9MM QR or 15maxle ..this should make you happy.

    Manitou 2014

    i have been doing a lot of digging around this subject from a past few days..for my xcal 6, came with a ST xcm
    but i cant afford , not even the reba

    Bike24 - RockShox Reba RL Solo Air 29" Fork 100mm 51mm Offset Straight 9QR 2015 - black

    also, below is an answer from cane creek,
    just in case you want a tapered fork fr your bike(trek x-cal series)..the headset that ur bike will take is ZS44 TOP & EC44 Bottom, this will add exactly 12mm of extra stack height to your set up

    However, this could be negated if you get this new fork with a lil (12mm to be exact) shorter axel to crown distance then the current xc 30( i dnt know the A to C)

    hope all this enfo helps you..

    I will be happy with your old suspension, in case you wanna sell..hopefully will be better than the dam xcm!!

    Amit

    First off thanks, I had already found that myself. Secondly, "boy"

    I have found lots of literature for that fork,the x-fusion slide, and a few others saying the offer it in my wants, but the problem is actually being able to find one. IE my shop can only source the slide in black.

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    orite, apologies for calling you "boy", if that offends you..
    anyway, since this is not a 1 2 1 conversation all info provided is for everyone's sake onn this tread..
    any increment in the lower headset stack height 10 to 15mm changes the head angle not by 1/2 a degree but just by a quarter degree..
    Also, if you come across anything white in color with same specs as mentioned, please do post it on this tread...i am looking too..
    thnx

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    Until reading this thread I didn't realize you could use taoered on a straight head tube. Is this just applicable to particular models that will allow for a larger lower cup? I am assuming that the lower cup protudes more to fit the tapered steerer tube?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjsb View Post
    Until reading this thread I didn't realize you could use taoered on a straight head tube. Is this just applicable to particular models that will allow for a larger lower cup? I am assuming that the lower cup protudes more to fit the tapered steerer tube?
    40-Series

    There are 4 taper conversion complete headsets there and you can also by the bottom cup. You cannot use the taper conversion on all headtubes. Most with integrated or semi integrated headsets will work form my understanding. You just need to know your measurements, which can be a bit of a hassle when you look at all of the options on cane creeks website.

    A Niner MCR, for example, with an external bearing King headset on top and bottom, won't work to my knowledge.

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    You can only run a tapered steer tube in 44mm "straight" head tube. Not a traditional straight 1 1/8".

    Another note 12mm of additional head tube length by way of an external cup will change your geo by about a 1/2°. 20mm of additional unsagged fork length changes the bike by 1°. Use bikegeomuha.cc. The 12mm lower cup difference is static, does not sag like using a longer fork a2c.

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    i agree, 44mm straight bore..
    not need to get looking at the cane creek website, just write to them informing your bike make and model, they will reply with their headset model that will work for your bike...simple..
    and yes, a shorter axle to crown new fork can negate the extra 12mm, depending on how short the new fork is

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    I am also going through the same problem.
    Searching for white air fork with 51mm offset. Currently Chainreaction got the reba which is damn expensive.
    Found a Suntour XCR with 48mm offset and white on LBS so going for that now and a good pair wheelset because the fork weighs so much :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geo_08 View Post
    I realize G2 is simply a 51mm offset. For that reason the x-fusion slide caught my eye. I am having a hard time finding it in white with a straight steerer. I will look into manitou, but when I looked before I don't remember seeing any with a 51mm offset. I realize I don't need the offset, but I am realty digging how the bike handles right now.

    Reba has always been my go to fork, but RS says they didn't make any in white with the offsets. I sorta hate the black sanctions too.

    Cambria is showing that the Xfusion Slide White RL2R with 1 1/8 straight steer is available though not in stock. Quoting from their website,
    "Available

    Available items ship between 2 days to 15 days.

    CBO in Central CA, has hundreds of direct fulfillment partners with the fastest possible restock delivery times in the US."


    Here is the link for it. X-Fusion Slide RL2 Suspension Forks (100117932) at CambriaBike.com
    It is the remote lockout version. I just ordered a black non-remote version from fleabay that is supposed to be delivered tomorrow. I had to wait 4 business days before Bikewagon shipped it. It has very good reviews so that is why I went with it.

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    i gave up trying to convert my Xcaliber into an all mountain bike ....got tired of the tapered crap, 51mm offset ...blah blah..
    Put the xcal on sale(not sold yet)..
    got myself a Surly instigator 2.0, with a Krampus fork..Got the rims and tyres free from Surly..some current offer..

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    Quote Originally Posted by beer_coffee_water View Post

    I ran a tapered fork on my '11 Mamba frame which was the in the line of frames before the switch by Trek to the X-Cal tier of bikes.

    Could i know how u manage tapered fork in Mamba? i have a '13 mamba.

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