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    Idea! Wheelset recomendations

    Need wheelset recomendations;

    Easton. WTB, Bontrager, any others

    I get 15% off Bontrager/Trek items at my shop for buying my bike there, always a plus but I really want something that will let me turn my HT Superfly into everything mountain I want it to be.

    Having 2 sets is ideal, no need to sell the originals, but I do climb a lot which lets me go down even harder. Weight isn't so important because theres strength that goes with it because I know I could just go carbon and say forget it.

    Budget is no more than 400 a wheel 800 for a wheelset, and really dont want to be spending that much. I'll match my cassette, rotor and wheels for the new wheelset so I'll literally having a in-town, to and from set and a true weekend WARRIOR set.


    I'm not opposed to buying components sepereate from the wheelset, hubs, spokes, rims.. etc. but it will take a while to put together(I wont be doing it)


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    hope you dont mind, ill piggy back on this thread. we are on the same boat. which superfly do you have? was looking at the ZTR Flow EX 29er but got confused when i saw portions of the site about buying kits to convert to QR and to certain axle sizes..

    i have the 12' AL ELITE and i cant seem to find any specific details as to the parts of my bike. .
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    Stans Arch EX/Stans hubs. Proven, strong, and light.
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    Just got a set of Stand ZTR Flow rims on sale 50% off !!
    You can let stans build the wheelset or take parts to a local shop.
    I am going to take mine to a local shop to assemble for $40 each.
    I am still deciding on my budget but will go with industry nine, hadley, or chris king hubs because they all have the +70 POE and reputation I want.
    DT Swiss spokes are the way to go.

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    I bought my stans on sale half off directly from stand sale/clearance section.

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    can't go wrong with Stan Flows with DT Swiss spokes, in that price range I'd look at Hope Pro II hubs or XT hubs. I opted to empty out my kids college saving and build my wheelset with Chris King hubs
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    I checked out Stan's but they list appx. weight of rider? That makes me feel a little skeptical of them. I'm 6' at 235, currently.
    Great prices and even better you have the option to custom make the rims.

    I guess what I'm saying, What makes a rim strong and good?

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    you'll be fine on Flows, my one buddy is 250+ and rides hard, wheels are straight and true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bapski View Post
    hope you dont mind, ill piggy back on this thread. we are on the same boat. which superfly do you have? was looking at the ZTR Flow EX 29er but got confused when i saw portions of the site about buying kits to convert to QR and to certain axle sizes..

    i have the 12' AL ELITE and i cant seem to find any specific details as to the parts of my bike. .
    I also have the 12 Superfly 100 AL Elite. I purchased the Flow EX from Stans and have been happy with them. Much better than the narrow Mustang 29 rims.

    Call Stans when you order and they will build the correct wheel for your bike, you do not need the conversion kit. They will build you the standard quick release wheels. If you order an already built wheel you may need the conversion kit, but not when you have them build you a set. I actually emailed them photos of my existing hubs before hand to make sure they knew what I had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by treasureman View Post
    I also have the 12 Superfly 100 AL Elite. I purchased the Flow EX from Stans and have been happy with them. Much better than the narrow Mustang 29 rims.

    Call Stans when you order and they will build the correct wheel for your bike, you do not need the conversion kit. They will build you the standard quick release wheels. If you order an already built wheel you may need the conversion kit, but not when you have them build you a set. I actually emailed them photos of my existing hubs before hand to make sure they knew what I had.
    thank you for the input. just sent them an email and looks like i need a $20 conversion kit for the front wheel. think im good with the rear.. .

    do they charge extra if you have them build a wheel to my specs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bapski View Post
    thank you for the input. just sent them an email and looks like i need a $20 conversion kit for the front wheel. think im good with the rear.. .

    do they charge extra if you have them build a wheel to my specs?

    how are you loving your SF? love mine!
    They did not charge me any extra to build the wheels to fit my bike, same price as listed on the website. Talk to Peter.

    I like the SF a lot better with the new Flow EX wheels. I was burping air when running the Mustang's wheels tubeless.

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    cant go wrong with Stans ArchEX & i9's
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    Quote Originally Posted by treasureman View Post
    I also have the 12 Superfly 100 AL Elite. I purchased the Flow EX from Stans and have been happy with them. Much better than the narrow Mustang 29 rims.

    Call Stans when you order and they will build the correct wheel for your bike, you do not need the conversion kit. They will build you the standard quick release wheels. If you order an already built wheel you may need the conversion kit, but not when you have them build you a set. I actually emailed them photos of my existing hubs before hand to make sure they knew what I had.
    Quote Originally Posted by treasureman View Post
    They did not charge me any extra to build the wheels to fit my bike, same price as listed on the website. Talk to Peter.

    I like the SF a lot better with the new Flow EX wheels. I was burping air when running the Mustang's wheels tubeless.
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    cant go wrong with Stans ArchEX & i9's
    forgot to ask you guys which tires you went with.. thanks again.
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    Tire selection is dependent to the type of trails you ride (rooty, smooth, slick rock, etc). I'm rolling on Ignitors.
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    I got my Flow with CK single speed hub with 14g DT spokes (36h, 4 cross) for $650-$680 + shipping for the set from Larry at Ghisallo Wheels - Custom Wheels. That was the best price I could find.

    Also, few people have got Flow with Hope hubs for around $350 from wiggle.com | Hope Performance Wheels which is the best deal I've ever seen.
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    So I do need some new rims; My SuperFly is back from the bike shop and my rear rim is still off. I have my bars and seat dialed in along with my tires' pressures. My rear rim did have wiggle room dispete how tight I was able to put on my axle and that was tightened up to rid of the wobble, but dispite that my rim still has a noticable wobble, especially noticable in turns... not cool.

    I can definetaly feel the weight of my bike now and need a def stronger rim without the weight.. Really wish carbon was in my price range.

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    Does your rear wheel wiggle at the hub? Or are you talking about flex in the wheel?

    +1 to the Stan's wheelset. Tough to beat it as far as cost, strength, and weight.
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    My superfly has Mustangs by Bontrager and where the "Mustang" is print on the rim, theres a clear bend. I had it in the shop and picked it up yesterday; had spokes checkes, cables.. a tune up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickgears View Post
    So I do need some new rims; My SuperFly is back from the bike shop and my rear rim is still off. I have my bars and seat dialed in along with my tires' pressures. My rear rim did have wiggle room dispete how tight I was able to put on my axle and that was tightened up to rid of the wobble, but dispite that my rim still has a noticable wobble, especially noticable in turns... not cool.
    I had the same problem with my X-cal rear wheel. My LBS had to remove the rear cassette and retighten the rear hub. Took 5 minutes and no more wobble.

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    Stickgears,
    Take a look at the new Bontrager wheelsets they just came out with . You might be able to get the RXL's within your budget with the discount. DT Swiss internals , lite, strong and stiff and you will get the support of your LBS.

    Yeah I know a bunch of people here will knock them but if you are a clyde with the new models these should be very competitive. Not sure you will be able to build a wheel set with DT Swiss Straightpull 240s for less than your discount price .
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    I'm digging my Mavic C29SSMAX wheelset. It's at the upper end of your budget, but you can probably get them under retail, though. Super easy to set up tubeless, even using floppy Maxxis kevlar bead tires.

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    Do all of the Stans rims come without eyelets? Would that effect the longevity of the rim?

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    Are all of the Stans wheels tubeless? What about a guy that is not wanting to go tubeless?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJay74 View Post
    Are all of the Stans wheels tubeless? What about a guy that is not wanting to go tubeless?
    Boo! Tubless or nothing!

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    While I hear people say that, I am not interested in the maintenance upkeep of going tubeless. It was a one and done type of conversion I would probably go with it, but from reading it seems you have to change out the solution often. With me living in Oklahoma and with summer temps in the 100+ range for 3-4 months that is not something I want to have to mess with in the fall when I drag the MTB back out to start riding again.

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    If you go with a Stan's wheelset, you can get the $10 injector to add sealant as necessary. Take out the valve stem, squirt in fresh sealant, and you are good to go. Non-Stan's tubeless wheels? Simply pop the bead on one side and just enough to put in fresh sealant, air it back up to re-seat the bead and go ride. It's that easy. Overall, tubeless is probably more expensive due to the cost of the sealant, but not having to deal with punctures and pinch flats with tubes makes it worth it to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK47 View Post
    If you go with a Stan's wheelset, you can get the $10 injector to add sealant as necessary. Take out the valve stem, squirt in fresh sealant, and you are good to go. Non-Stan's tubeless wheels? Simply pop the bead on one side and just enough to put in fresh sealant, air it back up to re-seat the bead and go ride. It's that easy. Overall, tubeless is probably more expensive due to the cost of the sealant, but not having to deal with punctures and pinch flats with tubes makes it worth it to me.
    Not to jack the thread, but are Stan's the easiest to setup for a tubeless noob? Say the ArchEx 29er wheelset?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJay74 View Post
    With me living in Oklahoma.
    In OK I do understand that you may not have challenging enough terrain to make it worth the conversion for you.
    But if you find your self on a lot of tough rocky trails then going tubless will blow your mind.

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    I would say absolutely, especially if you are using tubeless ready tires. Put the tire on the rim, leaving enough of the tire "open" to add sealant, put the tire over the rim, soap up the tire bead/rim (see Stan's website for a video example; ZTR tire install is the one you want), pat the tire down on the top to give it some shape within the rim channel, and then try airing up.

    If using a floor pump, you might have to hold the tire down a bit in the area around the valve stem so you create enough of a seal so the air will "catch" and inflate the rest of the tire. You can also try working the bead of the tire into the rim bead socket with your fingers by pulling on it from both sides of the tire at the same time. Alternatively, if you have an air compressor and a presta-to-schraeder valve adapter, that makes it super easy.

    Once it's aired up and you have "popped" the beads into the sockets, I usually inflate to 40psi. Then, you'll need to ensure the sealant seals any tiny leaks. You can do this several ways, and see the Stan's website for videos on that or the method shown on the WTB website: WTB TCS : Tubeless Compatible System

    Again, if you are using tubeless ready tires this shouldn't be too hard for a rookie.

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    Yeah I will research the tubeless more down the road, for now tubes work well for me.

    So next question then, Mavic Crossmax 29 or Stans Arch EX 29? Which one would you go with?

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    Mavic crossmax, I have yet to warp them and NH has a ton of rocks and roots on every trail. But be prepared to drop some coin unless you can find some used ones or a deal on ebay...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4nbstd View Post
    I got my Flow with CK single speed hub with 14g DT spokes (36h, 4 cross) for $650-$680 + shipping for the set from Larry at Ghisallo Wheels - Custom Wheels. That was the best price I could find.

    Also, few people have got Flow with Hope hubs for around $350 from wiggle.com | Hope Performance Wheels which is the best deal I've ever seen.
    Be careful with Wiggle. I accidentally put Crests in my shopping cart instead of Arch's. Hit send and realized my error. Notified them Immediately and they responded via email at 0400 on Sunday that it was too late to change my order! Great price indeed is why i ordered from them but i made a simple mistake and they wouldn't help me out. Now i have a set of Crests coming that i cannot use because i ride AM and weigh 200lbs!

    Anyone need a set of crests? Lol
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    I have the Mavics and a set of Crests. I would have to give the nod to the Mavics in that they seem to spin up a bit faster and are a little stiffer laterally. I like the grouchy green frog, too.

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    The Flows with Kings would be a pretty solid build. It would definitely be on the higher end of your budget, but the warranty on the Kings is well worth it. They are super easy hubs to adjust and they are quite durable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boatcop1 View Post
    Anyone need a set of crests? Lol
    I'm in the market, but cant you return them?

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    Easton Haven wheelset is $500 on CRC right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neil.beltchenko View Post
    I'm in the market, but cant you return them?
    I spoke too soon. At first they said no but After emailing countless times they took care of me. I now have a set of Arch EX's with DT swiss and 3.30's en route. Cannot wait. These plus the Reba Race fork I just got should perk up the ole Nine Sport!
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    Good deal! I was going to say that would be horrible customer service! Sounds like a great combo! Would you say the only reason you wouldn't get the crests is durability?

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    Yeah pretty much. I'm 200lbs and ride in the northeast, a lot of rock gardens 2 ft drops, roots etc. i read a lot about the Crest being a wheel that requires pretty frequent maintenance so i didn't want to deal with that either. The Arch EX has phenomenal reviews and sounded like a better fit for my AM style.

    They should greatly enhance the feel and response over my stock heavy WTB's
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    What did you end up getting the Arch Ex for in that setup, I am speaking with the LBS and he can get me a set of Arch Ex for $450

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJay74 View Post
    What did you end up getting the Arch Ex for in that setup, I am speaking with the LBS and he can get me a set of Arch Ex for $450
    Thats a deal bro. I paid 30.00 more than that!
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    Not sure if this is the correct thread but..

    How big of an advantage is a 29er SS specific rear wheel (hub with shorter driveshell and ss specific hub) compared to a normal geared hub which is you can convert to SS with spacers. Is the fact that the wheel is dishless such a big advantage that it is worth buying. I'm having a hard time choosing a rear wheel set up. I ride a rigid ss 29er at the moment but I might get in to gears later on, who knows.

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    hi i am 149 pounds so which of the stans wheels would any of you recommend for me with xc and trail riding in mind,i have just bought a giant xtc1 29r and was going to convert the giant pxc2 wheels to no tube but have decieded to just buy a set of lighter no tubes wheels,would there be much difference in performance in these 2 wheelsets?
    thanks.

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    they have the weight restrictions listed on their website, anyone of them would be fine at 149

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    thanks,yeah i know about the weights etc it was more on the durability,prob the arch seems the best compromise between crest and flow options

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