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    Quote Originally Posted by simpy16 View Post
    Slower joe. Thanks for the number crunching.

    2 thing.

    1. How much weight savings did you see if you came from a XX group?
    2. How would I know what Q factor I would need for my crankset?

    I think I may run a 31 if they make it and put me right in the middle and then I will just man up for the rest.

    Oops! Nevermind there is only 30 or 32. Might just have to buy both trade out when I feel like I might need more for climbing.
    Yes all the chainrings are even numbers because the chain rings have a wide tooth evey second tooth to fit into the wide link in the chain, Same as with the derailieur pullys.

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    I will save about 400grams changing from X0/X9 2x10 gruppo to XX1. Weight on scale can be seen here:

    Betzel - Benutzerprofil - Gewicht von Teilen auf der Waage - MTB-News.de

    Weigth crank is including BB while BB is not shown in the pic. GXP BB = 111gr. The pics are on a German site. If you have a question just ask. I can translate the text i have written there.

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    If anyone is still confused on what gears they need use this. You can figure out your current high and low gear and then choose the XX1 chainring you'll need to match or at least be close to it.

    Sheldon Brown's Bicycle Gear Calculator

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    Thanks for sharing that link. I've used it over the last few weeks contemplating what I should upgrade/downgrade to next.

    I'm always surprised how close the xx1 32t gets to a 26/39 11-36!

    This is probably the best article out there explaining it all: SRAM XX1 Drivetrain - First Look - Pinkbike

    I'll be sticking to my 2x10, but the future is looking good.

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    Most the summer i did big climbs in 24/32, which closely simulates 32/42 of the xx1. I had zero issues on even the biggest climbs and in fact use 24/28 most the time. The 32/36 on xx1 will be plenty for most climbs but it will be nice to have that 42 to fall back on just incase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the-one1 View Post
    Shadow was Shimano's answer to Sram's low profile dr. Then Type2 was SRAM's answer to Shimano's Shadow+.
    Good to know. I meant Shadow plus.
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    I'm going to start out with the 28 tooth front
    I like to play in big rocks an sometimes on a steep climb I pedal strike and come to a stop
    A supper low gear can be nice to get moving up hill and than drop down a couple of gears quickly to get the required momentum to make it through the chop
    Yes I could run up the hill faster sometimes but.....
    WTF kind of sport is bike running anyway
    Take more pride in what I can get through on a bike over hiking
    I'm stoked to try out my XX1 as long as they get me my cassette body ARG


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    Cassette body came in, can't wait to build it up on Christmas :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowerJoe View Post
    Cassette body came in, can't wait to build it up on Christmas :-)

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    Good news

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowerJoe View Post
    I'm going to start out with the 28 tooth front
    I like to play in big rocks an sometimes on a steep climb I pedal strike and come to a stop
    A supper low gear can be nice to get moving up hill and than drop down a couple of gears quickly to get the required momentum to make it through the chop
    Yes I could run up the hill faster sometimes but.....
    WTF kind of sport is bike running anyway
    Take more pride in what I can get through on a bike over hiking
    I'm stoked to try out my XX1 as long as they get me my cassette body ARG


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    28 should be fine unless you live in a mountainous region. Especially with the 10 tooth. I only have a 24 tooth front on one bike and never spin out in 24/11 here in the Midwest. We don't have long steep downhills. Plus the 24/34 gives me enough to climb up anything I can keep from spinning out on. You'll have higher and lower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by modifier View Post
    28 should be fine unless you live in a mountainous region. Especially with the 10 tooth. I only have a 24 tooth front on one bike and never spin out in 24/11 here in the Midwest. We don't have long steep downhills. Plus the 24/34 gives me enough to climb up anything I can keep from spinning out on. You'll have higher and lower.
    I am in the Midwest
    Allot of the trails I run are rocky steep and rolling
    I rarely use my lowest gear but it sure is nice knowing its there
    My XX 39 tooth is missing 5 teeth and I'm going to be happy to put an end to that
    I plan to get an ICSG mount bash for my stumpy
    can't wait to toss a leg over it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miker J View Post
    Show me picks of worn out 11t cogs to support how much they are needed and used.

    On a single , or double, with a 32t max front ring, which is quite common, worn 11t cogs are rarely seen. Most certainly not enough to warrant a 10t that would require an expensive hub overhaul.

    Of course this is all my opinion, but wait until Shimano comes out with a similar design with a 11t max that requires no hub overhaul. I bet they'll walk away with this market and prove the theory.
    I run a 1x10 and while I don't wear out my 11T cog, I do run out of higher gears when riding aggressively downhill. Yes, you can run a 1x10 but you need to make a not insubstantial compromise climbing or descending. I, at least, hope that Shimano will follow suit with a 1x11 drivetrain.

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    The body for my Hope hub came in yesterday. And tomorrow my wheels will be build. And after that I guess it will takes ages for the weekend to come




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    Nice
    what ya putting that on betzel?



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    Hmm. From the looks of it the hub body is the same with a different free hub and splines.

    I wonder if you can simply switch out the free hubs?

    I was thinking about this last night riding a 29er with i9 wheels and hoping I can do this with that rear.

    I don't want to build new wheels I just want the gears.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Sram's New XX1 Group-hopepro2evo.jpg  

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    Quote Originally Posted by modifier View Post
    Hmm. From the looks of it the hub body is the same with a different free hub and splines.

    I wonder if you can simply switch out the free hubs?

    I was thinking about this last night riding a 29er with i9 wheels and hoping I can do this with that rear.

    I don't want to build new wheels I just want the gears.
    I know for sure that the Sram and DT swiss hubs have free hubs that just change out on existing hubs.

    I am going to buy one for my DT240 so i can run this as well.

    I cant speak for Hope or i9 but depending on how they are built i believe they are all coming out with just an replacement free hub that will go on the hub you already have.

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    Here are some real weights if anyone is interested.

    SRAM XX1 Component Group – Actual Weights - Bike Rumor

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    Quote Originally Posted by simpy16 View Post
    I know for sure that the Sram and DT swiss hubs have free hubs that just change out on existing hubs.

    I am going to buy one for my DT240 so i can run this as well.

    I cant speak for Hope or i9 but depending on how they are built i believe they are all coming out with just an replacement free hub that will go on the hub you already have.
    Same is possible for Hopes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by modifier View Post
    Hmm. From the looks of it the hub body is the same with a different free hub and splines.

    I wonder if you can simply switch out the free hubs?

    I was thinking about this last night riding a 29er with i9 wheels and hoping I can do this with that rear.

    I don't want to build new wheels I just want the gears.
    Yes I only changed the freehub body on My I9 wheels for xx1, It takes less than 30 seconds.

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    Crap! The shop I'm going to be racing with next year just got some XX1 kits in...and I'm afraid I'm gonna come home with one after our team meeting on Saturday! #nowillpower

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    Is it possible to get the XX1 cluster only?

    I'm thinking of running two wheelsets - one for AM, the other with slicks for commuting, so I'd only need a XX1 cluster on the second set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisgardner73 View Post
    Crap! The shop I'm going to be racing with next year just got some XX1 kits in...and I'm afraid I'm gonna come home with one after our team meeting on Saturday! #nowillpower
    willpower is overated
    For the same money you could come home with something stupid like a TV
    do the right thing
    Use all your expendable income and than some on your bikes
    Learn from me
    Its worth it

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    Quote Originally Posted by NevB View Post
    Is it possible to get the XX1 cluster only?

    I'm thinking of running two wheelsets - one for AM, the other with slicks for commuting, so I'd only need a XX1 cluster on the second set.
    Yes you can buy a second XX1 cassette on it's own.

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    It is the same Hope hubshell. You just need to change the freewheel. 5 minutes work! I'm putting on a bike that wouldn't fit in this part of the forum It's a 2011 Marin Mount Vision XM9 so a 26" bike. I will upload some pics in the Marin forum when my bike is ready (tonight or tomorrow).

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    Can't wait to get my XX1 groupset over here in Nepal. I got the delivery confirmation that it already got to my buddy who is bringing it over here to me in another 10 days. The freehub body is on the way too. I'm hooking it up to a DTSwiss 240s rear hub.

    I got the 156q BB30 to use on a Chinese carbon hardtail. Pics will be forthcoming.

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