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    Rubena Scylla Tires

    Does anyone have any experience with these tires? Weight is advertised at 540 Gr and they look like a mix between an Aspen and an Icon. Just wondering...


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    Just recently heard about these. It's a Czech brand. Just getting some marketing cranked up here in North America to get the word out. I don't even know who their distributor is.

    They do look interesting. They have tubeless ready variants and claim high volume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted View Post
    Just recently heard about these. It's a Czech brand. Just getting some marketing cranked up here in North America to get the word out. I don't even know who their distributor is.

    They do look interesting. They have tubeless ready variants and claim high volume.

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    PromoLogic was handling Rubena 4-5 years ago. The (26") tires were good, if "small" in their nominal sizing.

    The Scylla tread worked well. No 29" models at the time.
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    Rubena in the US and in 29'r!

    I work for the distributor for Rubena in the US. We have both the Scylla and the Kratos in 29x2.25, Tubeless and what they call Racing Pro. The Tubeless version is compatible for tubed setups, conversions such as Stans and also UST setups. The Racing Pro is compatible with tubed and conversion setups.

    It's true that we're just starting to get the word out about these tires. All of the shop feedback I've been getting has been very positive. The tires are light, they have a 127tpi casing while still having reinforced sidewalls, they hook up really well and have a pretty low rolling resistance.

    If you have an interest in picking some of these tires up, encourage your LBS to contact Cyclone Bicycle Supply. If anyone has any questions please post up, I'll find out what you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lug.junkie View Post
    I work for the distributor for Rubena in the US. We have both the Scylla and the Kratos in 29x2.25, Tubeless and what they call Racing Pro. The Tubeless version is compatible for tubed setups, conversions such as Stans and also UST setups. The Racing Pro is compatible with tubed and conversion setups.

    It's true that we're just starting to get the word out about these tires. All of the shop feedback I've been getting has been very positive. The tires are light, they have a 127tpi casing while still having reinforced sidewalls, they hook up really well and have a pretty low rolling resistance.

    If you have an interest in picking some of these tires up, encourage your LBS to contact Cyclone Bicycle Supply. If anyone has any questions please post up, I'll find out what you need.

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    29x2.25 @ 540 Gr?

    You really need to make a page that displays all of the different models and shows tread patterns. The mfg website is horrible to navigate.

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    Rubena USA website and other sundries...

    Xeno, Rubena USA is in the process of putting a site together. It won't be up for a little bit, but expect one that's easily navigated and well thought out.

    About the weight on the Scylla, yeah, 540g, they're the real deal. Wait for more options to come out in time for next Spring too. Dual compound tires, wider ranges and 57.8% more awesome. You're going to hear a lot about this brand over the next year.

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    Sounds like a great tire.

    I ended up purchasing Vulpines last night... after many hours of searching..

    There aren't enough good 2.1+ street duty/hardpack tires around the 500g area for 29ers and that tread pattern looks like it'll roll relatively well...

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    Whats the retail pricing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xenophobe View Post
    Sounds like a great tire.

    I ended up purchasing Vulpines last night... after many hours of searching..

    There aren't enough good 2.1+ street duty/hardpack tires around the 500g area for 29ers and that tread pattern looks like it'll roll relatively well...

    One problem, Vulpines are over 600 grams. Apparently more research was needed

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    Whats the retail pricing?
    Agreed. Also a confirmation of the size and weight would be nice. Can we see a pic of the actual tires instead of just a CGG? Any sidewall protection versions available or coming?
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    Saw these in person at a bike shop in Dallas, TX. They look pretty interesting. They were on the shop owner's bike and he says he really likes them. I'm thinking about trying a set of these when my current tires need replacing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vizsladog View Post
    Whats the retail pricing?
    They're about $64.95 retail. Sorry I took a little while to answer you. Thanks.

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    Ouch

    Quote Originally Posted by lug.junkie View Post
    They're about $64.95 retail. Sorry I took a little while to answer you. Thanks.

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    That's ridiculous amount of money for a tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tl1 View Post
    That's ridiculous amount of money for a tire.
    I'd disagree with you on that. Schwalbe tires in the same style range retail for about $80, same for similar Maxxis tires. Kenda come sort of close but don't really have the features the Rubenas offer. As hard as it is to accept, rubber prices have increased about 35% coming from Asia and this is the price you'll see for mountain tires on the top end of performance characteristics.

    My background is mostly urban and road cycling, so I'm familiar with the high cost of rubber. Hell, I paid $55 or $60 for Conti Grand Prix in the late '90's. I think mountain tires have taken a lot longer to see the effects of material and manufacturing cost increases but I'm pretty sure they're here to stay. Sorry you think they're ridiculously priced.

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    You can rationalize it anyway you want

    Quote Originally Posted by lug.junkie View Post
    I'd disagree with you on that. Schwalbe tires in the same style range retail for about $80, same for similar Maxxis tires. Kenda come sort of close but don't really have the features the Rubenas offer. As hard as it is to accept, rubber prices have increased about 35% coming from Asia and this is the price you'll see for mountain tires on the top end of performance characteristics.

    My background is mostly urban and road cycling, so I'm familiar with the high cost of rubber. Hell, I paid $55 or $60 for Conti Grand Prix in the late '90's. I think mountain tires have taken a lot longer to see the effects of material and manufacturing cost increases but I'm pretty sure they're here to stay. Sorry you think they're ridiculously priced.

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    I know rubber has gone up in price but $65 is still far too much for me to spend on one bicycle tire. I wouldn't even bother paying for $50 tires. It's one of the top reasons I have bought older model Geax Saguaro tires lately. They're very reasonable as you can find them for under $40, they work great for me, they wear like iron and you're buying really good tires not marketing hype and race day Euro fashion and mystique. It's really hard for me to buy the currency differences too when most tires are made in China or other low cost areas like Indonesia. All of which shouldn't imply that you shouldn't choose to use your own resources to buy the spendiest of tires in any way you see fit, just leave me out of it thanks.

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    Tires are the only thing that keeps my wheels glued to the ground. If I have to spend $$$ on a tire so I know it will stick and then break predictably when I throw the bike into corners it's well worth the extra $20/30/40 over a cheaper, longer wearing tire.

    Each to their own but I have to agree with lug.junkie: $65 for decent rubber (assuming these tires are decent rubber) is pretty fair IMO.

    If they have as much grip as mud wrestlers then it's a different story !!

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    Thanks TL1 and Driver Bob. Both you have valid and real world points.

    TL1, if you'd rather spend less on tires than what these cost, that's fine, I have no problem with that. What I am a little disappointed about is this thread starting as a question about the tire, its availability and performance, and suddenly having been dismissed as "ridiculous" due to your personal perception about the price. Not really fair for a product you've never used and never seen. Nor is the assertation that the tires are based in "marketing hype and race day Euro fashion and mystique". Discussing the pros and cons of a product in these forums are all well and good, but you're not adding anything constructive to the conversation.

    Driver Bob, I'm in the same boat as you, I'll pay for rubber when it does the best job for the situations where I use it. If you want to see the Rubena tires in person let me know and I'll direct you to the closest place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lug.junkie View Post
    Thanks TL1 and Driver Bob. Both you have valid and real world points.

    TL1, if you'd rather spend less on tires than what these cost, that's fine, I have no problem with that. What I am a little disappointed about is this thread starting as a question about the tire, its availability and performance, and suddenly having been dismissed as "ridiculous" due to your personal perception about the price. Not really fair for a product you've never used and never seen. Nor is the assertation that the tires are based in "marketing hype and race day Euro fashion and mystique". Discussing the pros and cons of a product in these forums are all well and good, but you're not adding anything constructive to the conversation.

    Driver Bob, I'm in the same boat as you, I'll pay for rubber when it does the best job for the situations where I use it. If you want to see the Rubena tires in person let me know and I'll direct you to the closest place.

    Thanks.

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    Matt, How about I do some real world SS testing on those bad boys for you. I live in So Utah so I can put them through the ringer in a year on really varied terrain.

    PM me if you want my shipping address.

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    Quote Originally Posted by can't get right View Post
    Matt, How about I do some real world SS testing on those bad boys for you. I live in So Utah so I can put them through the ringer in a year on really varied terrain.

    PM me if you want my shipping address.
    Let me think about that. I have 4 more posts after this one before the site will let me PM anyone, so you'll have to wait at least that long.

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    The price is in line with other high end tires, no worries there. Agree with above- I'd like to see real pics. Also, I can't seem to find the Kratos on the website.
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    I was probably kinda harsh

    Quote Originally Posted by lug.junkie View Post
    Thanks TL1 and Driver Bob. Both you have valid and real world points.

    TL1, if you'd rather spend less on tires than what these cost, that's fine, I have no problem with that. What I am a little disappointed about is this thread starting as a question about the tire, its availability and performance, and suddenly having been dismissed as "ridiculous" due to your personal perception about the price. Not really fair for a product you've never used and never seen. Nor is the assertation that the tires are based in "marketing hype and race day Euro fashion and mystique". Discussing the pros and cons of a product in these forums are all well and good, but you're not adding anything constructive to the conversation.

    Driver Bob, I'm in the same boat as you, I'll pay for rubber when it does the best job for the situations where I use it. If you want to see the Rubena tires in person let me know and I'll direct you to the closest place.

    Thanks.

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    Didn't mean to come off that way or in any way diminish those that enjoy spending that kind of money on their passion. It won't be me doing it though. I should have said "That's ridiculous amount of money for a tire (for me)". My Geax Sags are the best tire I've found for my kind of trail riding and make me happy everytime I ride them.

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    Prices are high because we will pay it. Not because of rubber prices. I buy tires for my car that cost $70 each. and the schwalbe's on my bike are $75 each. The problem with cyclist is that we think we need or want things and will pay whatever to get them. (im guilty too). for instance: im a recreational trail rider that rides for fun and fitness. I dont need the weight savings of x0 drive over x9 or carbon bars and thomson masterpiece post, but do i want it...hell yeah. I can afford it and i want it so i buy it. Do i know its all overpriced...hell yeah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texasnavy05 View Post
    Prices are high because we will pay it. Not because of rubber prices. I buy tires for my car that cost $70 each. and the schwalbe's on my bike are $75 each.
    The economies of scale are completely different for cars vs bicycles.
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    At least when my car tires are bald I can still ride my bike .

    Which shop in the Dallas area will be able to get these for me?

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    GT, I think I hear what your saying,the guy selling bike tires and the guy selling car tires each have to pay the same for a gallon of milk or gas. I think Tex is right we are getting riped off becuse we let it go on and on becuse of our wants.. I loved the schwalbe rr but they have crossed the line with me I will most likely never buy another one of there tires.. so if your saying that the scale is differnt then please explain why a bike tire cost the same as our car tires. I'm not to smart, I'm problythedumstturdinthepenut

    lug.junkie, I like the looks of your tire and it loks like it's going to cost less than the RR I was running on the rear I think that tire msrp is about $100 I got 5 24 hr races and about 150miles of riding out of it and I would not have used it at the last race had I know how bad that tire was (thin). 540g & 70$ isn't bad and also we would like 2.0 470grams. Your tire does look like the Max Aspen I have them on the front of my bikes and live in the mid north

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    Quote Originally Posted by idinomac View Post
    GT, I think I hear what your saying,the guy selling bike tires and the guy selling car tires each have to pay the same for a gallon of milk or gas. I think Tex is right we are getting riped off becuse we let it go on and on becuse of our wants.. I loved the schwalbe rr but they have crossed the line with me I will most likely never buy another one of there tires.. so if your saying that the scale is differnt then please explain why a bike tire cost the same as our car tires. I'm not to smart, I'm problythedumstturdinthepenut
    The amount of car tires produced makes what numbers in bicycle tires produced look like a handful of bicycle tires next to a mountain of car tires.

    The materials cost is obviously a factor with such small production numbers.

    Car tires can cost less since the numbers sold support more of the company and pay for the original costs to open molds, etc much more quickly than bicycle tires can.

    If bicycle tires, specifically mountain bike tires, were made and sold in far greater numbers you would realize some cost reductions.

    Also- Comparing a standard car tire to a high performance, high tech mountain bike tire isn't a fair comparison either. Just from a technical standpoint. Look at the cost of a high tech, high performance car tire and the example changes dramatically.

    The whole dollars to dollars comparison becomes a much different story if you consider more than what is skin deep.
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    Ok thank-you Ted that all sounds good so that people will be willing to pay a $100.00 msrp on a tire. but like said for ME I will not buy any more schwalbe RR evo it was a good tire but not that good I just think that what your saying is true BUT! and a big one at that, if everyone quit buying the RR how much do think that tire will go down in price in like six months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitar Ted View Post
    The amount of car tires produced makes what numbers in bicycle tires produced look like a handful of bicycle tires next to a mountain of car tires.

    The materials cost is obviously a factor with such small production numbers.

    Car tires can cost less since the numbers sold support more of the company and pay for the original costs to open molds, etc much more quickly than bicycle tires can.

    If bicycle tires, specifically mountain bike tires, were made and sold in far greater numbers you would realize some cost reductions.

    Also- Comparing a standard car tire to a high performance, high tech mountain bike tire isn't a fair comparison either. Just from a technical standpoint. Look at the cost of a high tech, high performance car tire and the example changes dramatically.

    The whole dollars to dollars comparison becomes a much different story if you consider more than what is skin deep.
    Economies of scale notwithstanding, what I highlighted is what often gets forgotten for a lot of bike stuff, not just tires.
    Over the last 20 years of working in shops, I've often heard someone's shock at $80 tires, or a $5000 bike.
    The fact of the matter is, you can buy an exact replica of a bike that has won World Championships, or World Cup races for >$10k. How much would it cost to buy a World Championship-winning motocross bike? Or F1 car?

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    I have tried these in 26" in South Africa where they are quite common, and they were light and rolled fast, but came up very narrow. I slit a sidewall after about 5 rides and ended up giving the other one away. I was running them tubeless, set up wasn't too much of a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sslos View Post
    Economies of scale notwithstanding, what I highlighted is what often gets forgotten for a lot of bike stuff, not just tires.
    Over the last 20 years of working in shops, I've often heard someone's shock at $80 tires, or a $5000 bike.
    The fact of the matter is, you can buy an exact replica of a bike that has won World Championships, or World Cup races for >$10k. How much would it cost to buy a World Championship-winning motocross bike? Or F1 car?

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    Mountain biking on a whole compared to other hobbies can be inexpensive. A $4000 mountain bike is much more accessible than a $100,000 car, and therefore more commonplace.

    @GT i understand economies of scale, but this particular market is more driven by demand.

    Back on topic, I think I will be a guinea pig for this tire. It looks like a reasonable tread pattern for me, and if it at the advertised weight and holds up tubeless, could make a good reasonably priced tire for me. Is there any difference in the two versions other than one is a "race" tire and one is advertised as tubeless? I may opt for the tubeless version though it is a bit porkier.
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    Go read the product reviews on Pinkbike, every third comment is some variation of "that price is ridiculous, my [cheaper part] is just as good, people who pay this are idiots." It's not very helpful.

    There are plenty of reasons to pay more or less for things, and plenty of options out there for everyone's budget. Just straight-up saying something is not worth the money is not helpful at all.

    Some people might be paying $280 to put tires on their autos but mine are $1500/set. Am I an idiot? Is $1500 too much for tires? So how much should I be paying? There is no way to answer that question. You just can't generalize and say $$$$ is too much without having any information.

    I drive a 4WD, use it off-road, on roads that are not in good shape and in extreme winter conditions. I need decent tires and $1500 is what they cost. You can spend a LOT more than that for truck tires if you want.

    Goes the same for bikes... I have a lot invested in my ride, and I use it all the time. I'll buy the tires I need and can afford, and if they cost $80 or $100 then that is what they cost. It's not some existential problem it's just production, supply and demand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WrecklessREX View Post
    At least when my car tires are bald I can still ride my bike .

    Which shop in the Dallas area will be able to get these for me?

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    WR, the closest place to Dallas proper is Cadence Cyclery in McKinney, TX they have purchased these tires from us in the recent past. We also sell to Oak Cliff in Dallas though they haven't signed on to these tires yet. Please let me know if you have any other questions and if you pick up a pair, let me know what you think about them. Thanks for asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idinomac View Post
    Ok .... I just think that what your saying is true BUT! and a big one at that, if everyone quit buying the RR how much do think that tire will go down in price in like six months.

    That won't happen, that's what.

    I get that you wish tires were cheaper. Heck- we all do. But it ain't gonna happen due to the pricing structure now. The increases are not chasing enough people, (yourself not withstanding), away from the market place to make the changes you are hoping for.

    "if" that did happen, well of course, you'd be right. But.......(see first sentence above).
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    Quote Originally Posted by tl1 View Post
    Didn't mean to come off that way or in any way diminish those that enjoy spending that kind of money on their passion. It won't be me doing it though. I should have said "That's ridiculous amount of money for a tire (for me)". My Geax Sags are the best tire I've found for my kind of trail riding and make me happy everytime I ride them.
    Don't worry about it TL, we all get a little carried away while typing away on the interwebs. If you're ever in the Portland, OR area give me a heads up and we'll ride, I may even have a demo pair for you to try out.

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    I'd like to see some Hankook bike tires next

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    The Kratos look rather interesting. Im curious as to get more details as well between the race and tubeless versions.

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    What you arent considering is the cost of raw rubber...wich is thru the roof.

    I work for goodyears commercial tire division and our truck tires ( think 18 wheeler semi tires) have gone up 67% in the last year due to rubber costs and demand.

    Take in to account that a bike tire takes less rubber so they dont buy as much so their price is higher.

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    lug,

    It would be nice to see some pics of the Scylla and the Kratos mounted? Anime just doesn't do it for me.

    Thanks

    Edit: After a little digging I found this pic but better pics with rim specs couldn't hurt either.

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    I just ordered some in for the shop. I don't have them mounted on any rims yet, but if I get some time over the weekend I might just to measure them up and czech out their shape. The casing feels nice and supple, mush like a Schwalbe. The weights are a bit over their advertised weights, but are not by any means heavy. The Scylla weighs in at 620g, 80g over the advertised 540g. The Kratos comes in a bit closer at 700g vs. the advertises 650g.
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    Quote Originally Posted by idinomac View Post
    Ok thank-you Ted that all sounds good so that people will be willing to pay a $100.00 msrp on a tire. but like said for ME I will not buy any more schwalbe RR evo it was a good tire but not that good I just think that what your saying is true BUT! and a big one at that, if everyone quit buying the RR how much do think that tire will go down in price in like six months.
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    ^^^ That is a bit farther away from the posted weight then they should be IMO. At that weight i will prolly just stick with the IKON. no real complaints about it yet.
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    I pulled the trigger on the Scylla and one Kratos tires, funny, the weight I got was closer to advertised weights but again over the advertised weight. 540 and actual was 575 for the Scylla.
    I have had them mounted and been running Orange Seal tubeless sealant in them on Arches and on a Crest and they are holding up very well and roll fast. 4 trips to Revile Peak Ranch, which it notorious for ripping off knobs on tires, will kill a nano in one trip, City Park, Walnut, 3 rides at Rocky Hill and one ride on the Greenbelt and Travis country. They grip very well and have not lost a knob as of yet.
    I did a 40 miler on the road the other day, lead out for a marathon, and they rolled very smooth.
    In Austin you can get the tires at Mac's Cycle Werks, in both 26 and 29 sizes and are priced VERY competitively, not sure if they will get in trouble but less than MSRP by a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txxcrider View Post
    I pulled the trigger on the Scylla and one Kratos tires, funny, the weight I got was closer to advertised weights but again over the advertised weight. 540 and actual was 575 for the Scylla.
    I have had them mounted and been running Orange Seal tubeless sealant in them on Arches and on a Crest and they are holding up very well and roll fast. 4 trips to Revile Peak Ranch, which it notorious for ripping off knobs on tires, will kill a nano in one trip, City Park, Walnut, 3 rides at Rocky Hill and one ride on the Greenbelt and Travis country. They grip very well and have not lost a knob as of yet.
    I did a 40 miler on the road the other day, lead out for a marathon, and they rolled very smooth.
    In Austin you can get the tires at Mac's Cycle Werks, in both 26 and 29 sizes and are priced VERY competitively, not sure if they will get in trouble but less than MSRP by a bit.
    Just curious if if your running Kratos f and r or Scylla/Kratos. Just ordered a pair of Kratos. Wanted the taller more open knobs for slopper conditions. If I like them. Might pick up a Scylla for the rear, when things dry out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txxcrider View Post
    I pulled the trigger on the Scylla close to advertised weight
    I too pulled out the card for a Scylla, will mount it this weekend. 553g tire only on the postal scale. Going from Ikon front Aspen rear to Scylla front Ikon rear.
    ...strictly downhill...

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    I'm running Scylla front and rear most of the time and when I want more bite I am running the Kratos on the front for times I want more "bite".

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    Just mounted up a Krato's on a Stans 355 rim. I must say I am disappointed in both the volume and width for a 2.25 tire. The Crossmark 2.1 it replaced has noticeably more volume and width than the Kratos. Bought them for a sloppy winter tire. Maybe the narrowness will work out for the better.

    Widest measurement from sidewall to sidewall was 1.93". Widest point from side knob to knob was 2.09". I'm sure they might settle in and get a little wider, but not that much. Granted a 355 rim is'nt that wide, but was still hoping for more volume from a claimed 2.25 tire. Clearly the Crossmark it replaced is wider and has more volume.

    They did however mount easily using Stans sealent on 355's. These were also the race version with DTC gray sidewalls.

    Will mount the other one in a couple of days and take them for a spin after the holidays and weather gets a little better. Maybe the ride will be better than the initial disappointment of the size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xenophobe View Post
    Sounds like a great tire.

    I ended up purchasing Vulpines last night... after many hours of searching..

    There aren't enough good 2.1+ street duty/hardpack tires around the 500g area for 29ers and that tread pattern looks like it'll roll relatively well...
    Agreed !! Hows the volume on the vulpines ?? and are they faster than 2.1 SB8 ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by lug.junkie View Post
    WR, the closest place to Dallas proper is Cadence Cyclery in McKinney, TX they have purchased these tires from us in the recent past. We also sell to Oak Cliff in Dallas though they haven't signed on to these tires yet. Please let me know if you have any other questions and if you pick up a pair, let me know what you think about them. Thanks for asking.
    Yep Cadence is were I saw them in person. Talk to Chad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidR1 View Post
    One problem, Vulpines are over 600 grams. Apparently more research was needed
    It wasn't research that was needed, it was called settling on what I could find that best suited me. I had actually cancelled the Vulpines before they shipped and went with Furious Freds. Haven't ridden them much yet, but they feel like they're going to wear out fast, but they are really light. :P

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    540 grams is the claimed weight for the 26" tire. The claimed weights for the 29" tires are
    Scylla - standard 590, tubeless 640
    Kratos - standard 660, tubeless 690

    I just got two standard Kratos', they weighed 662 and 672 grams.

    EDIT: I just got two tubeless Scylla's as well, 602 and 609 grams. UNDERWEIGHT...YAY!
    Last edited by aussie_yeti; 01-24-2012 at 05:22 PM.

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    I'm stoked the tires are getting out there and being ridden by folks in the field. I am about to put a set of the Scylla's on my 26" hardtail for a race here in Oregon. Please, I'm very interested in feedback and would appreciate unfiltered thoughts to pass to the folks in CZ. PM me, post on this thread, anything you like. Thanks for the discussions everyone.

    Matt

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