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    Platform or clipless pedals?

    Just got back into mountain biking after a 10 year break. I bought a Ghost hardtail 29er and mainly use it as an all around bike, light downhill at the local ski slope, xc, trail riding etc. I used to own an old Norco hardtail but given the trail conditions around my house (roots, rocks, obstacles) I always used platform pedals. On my new bike the salesman suggested I try a dual design for the various riding styles I do. I went with a Wellgo wpd m17 pedal which has one side spd and one side platform. Tried them out spd last week and found them to be very hard to clip out of in intense moments and this even though the clips were set very loose. I have been riding Shimano spd road pedals for many years now and never had a problem unclipping so I know that it's not a case of getting used to the unclipping movement that is the problem. I'm wondering if I should go back to platforms. I know Wellgos don't have the best reputation so I'm also considering the Shimano xt trail m785 which are supposed to be a better quality pedal. My concerns with those is their platform design. By looking at pictures of them it seems as if the shoe is resting on the platform in front but on the spd clip on the back. I can't imagine going down a full downhill run with this type of foot support. Has anyone converted from platforms to clipless recently? Any input that would help me make the right choice would be appreciated.

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    Did you look at the Shimano m324 combo pedal? Not as fancy looking at the M785, but they've been around for years and seem to have pretty good reviews.

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    Re: Platform or clipless pedals?

    Yes I was looking at the m324. I'm just wondering if the aluminum cage will hold il ton downhill bashing. Have you tried those?

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    I JUST got a pair and haven't used them yet. But I have had the Nashbar Rodeo pedals in the past and they worked fine. You used to be able to score them for like $20 with a coupon, but like everything they've gone up some.

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    Check out crank brothers mallets. I just switched from spd and love the ease of clipping in and out, plus the adjustable pins if you want to ride them as flats.

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    Re: Platform or clipless pedals?

    Yeah, I considered the Crank brothers mallet, but the reviews on them are up and down. Many have pointed out reliability issues. The other thing is that apart from the 29we, I have a road bike and a touring bike all equiped with spd pedals and I use the same shoes for all the bikes.

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    Re: Platform or clipless pedals?

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    I JUST got a pair and haven't used them yet. But I have had the Nashbar Rodeo pedals in the past and they worked fine. You used to be able to score them for like $20 with a coupon, but like everything they've gone up some.
    Are you talking about the m324 or the xt785? Can you give me a rundown once you've tried them a few times?

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    M324. I'm not sure when I'll get to check them out though. I'm assembling parts to go onto a tallboy frame so not actually riding right now.

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    Re: Platform or clipless pedals?

    I'll keep you posted if I go with the m324 and let you know if I like them.

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    Platform or clipless pedals?

    I've been riding clipless for about 3 weeks and I'm running shimano m-785. I



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    Platform or clipless pedals?

    I have not had any issues with the m-785. I still have my flats but I don't really miss them. Especially when climbing.






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    I am officially 4 rides into clipless, using crank bros. candy with specialized rime!
    Definitely takes a bit to get into. With mine, I can adjust the angle of release. I have it on the 15degree release. I have stepped down and magically my foot lands on the ground..lol Of course there is the few times when I just fall over..lol I would recommend switching!

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    Platform or clipless pedals?

    I would suggest the m-785 to a newbie or someone who prefers a platform. Easy to clip in and out of and relatively light.


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    Re: Platform or clipless pedals?

    Quote Originally Posted by nelson73 View Post
    I would suggest the m-785 to a newbie or someone who prefers a platform. Easy to clip in and out of and relatively light.


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    Thanks for the feedback. Just one question, do you sometimes ride the M-785 without being clipped in? From what I see the platform is merely to help clipping in and can't been ridden with regular shoes for long runs. Another option would be to switch to a platform the few times a year I go downhilling but I would definitely like a pedal that does both a but like the CB Mallet.

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    Platform or clipless pedals?

    I will unclip and ride only when things get very technical, but I would not recommend just riding the platform long term. The m-785 will perform better clipped in. My riding buddy uses the cb-mallet 1 dh on his ibis mojo. He loves the mallets but says they are a little tricky getting in and of at first.


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    I have Mallet 2's and I can make them as hard or as easy to get into by adjusting the hight of the pins. I have the pins pretty tall so I have to smoosh my foot a little to get clipped in, but I can pop out just as fast as I want. Granted, I've been riding clipless on a road bike since the late 90's so this is familiar territory. Of course, that didn't stop me from falling over at a traffic light yesterday!

    With the Mallets I can ride unclipped with no real issue. It's not as wide as a full blown platform pedal, but with the pins tall and a soft compound in my Shimano MT-22 shoes I have no issues pedaling without being clipped.

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    Re: Platform or clipless pedals?

    I finally opted for the slx m530 pedals. So far I'm quite satisfied, much better than the Wellgo pedals I first tried and very cheap at Wiggles, only $30. I also bought the sm56 cleats which allow different movements to unclip. I haven't tried them yet, though. I'm keeping them for the new shoes I'm about to buy.
    Thanks to all for the feedback.

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    HT flats and a good pair of shoes!

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    Platform or clipless pedals?

    Quote Originally Posted by LB412 View Post
    HT flats and a good pair of shoes!
    +1, the AE01's with Teva Links is a killer combo!

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    Clipless here.

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    I love my time pedals been running a set of xc style for 5 years and a set of platform z pedals for longer and both still work perfectly. Mix it up do some time on both see what you prefer. I still swap between flats and clips, I think you benefit from swapping back every now and then develop your skills no matter what pedal you have

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    Wellgo m17 geek pedals

    Don't tell Bike Snob, but I highly recommend the Wellgo m17 pedals.

    Re: "...found them to be very hard to clip out of in intense moments."
    Note: the pedal cage can catch on your shoe sole and interfere with release (especially w the SH51 SPD single release cleat), but it's an easy fix. Clip your shoe in and inspect clearance and smooth release. On a few pairs of shoes, I used a dremmel to relieve a few tiny offending areas on the shoe tread and to smooth and ramp/chamfer a few high spots on the pedal cage and presto, they release like any quality SPD.

    I know they aren't cool, but don't underestimate the the Wellgo m17 as a utilitarian, urban, back country, adventure, bike-packing, super commuter pedal. They're tough, functional and not too expensive, flexy or heavy.
    One advantage is getting going in a tough spot... you can use the platform until you're in a better spot to click in. Another is being unclipped and still able to pedal thru tricky terrain. You can also pedal easily w broken or muddy cleats (unlike the no platform standard SPD mountain pedal).
    They hold up well. My first set is on an old rain commuter gravel rig w ~5000 mi. They've had no service, the bearings are tight and smooth and the release mech works fine (though it's not as smooth as the new set)!
    Release and retention setting is consistent. One pedal was a bit sticky due to a slight, but critical bur under the cleat trap. It took a while to find, but only seconds to file off.
    I liked them so much I put them on a Specialized AWOL and they are good match.
    Both sets are about ~305g, 50g lighter than claimed and you can remove the plastic bits to sneak under 300g.
    I've also owned the Shimano m324? combo. It's heavier (530g!), bulkier, more expensive and suffers from release drag on the cage too, but a good pedal. I also had a set of Performance Campus which never released well and wore out quickly. I also considered the Shimano m530 (455g) and T780 (392g) combo pedals.

    Beware! The cage sticks out a bit (slightly decreasing lean in) and when you dab a pedal, the cage does not glance or deflect well. It has an bad attitude and really digs in, even on pavement. Nothing you can't adjust for, but sneaky. I did grind a bit of a more favorable angle of attack and haven't noticed it since.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LB412 View Post
    HT flats and a good pair of shoes!
    +1/2 ---> Good pair of shoes and flats, but I'd suggest xpedo spry or wellgo MG-5 as the HT stuff gets quite pricey.

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    I've gone to the dark side and purchased some clipless pedals... on my 29 full squishy. I've been up and down the street with them on several times. Still haven't got them out on the trail yet and am still a little hesitant. My AM 650b horse will stay flats. Mainly bought clips for events, next one's not until November, so I'm in no real hurry to take my first clipless fall

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    SPD's.
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    Shimano SH-56 Multi-Directional Release SPD Cleats - REI.com

    If your new at it, Shimano sells a clip labeled "M" that is a multi-directional option.

    I fall all the time and have never stayed clipped in when going down. They work like magic and just release. Good luck on your search.
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    Am I the only person that has had great luck with Crank Brothers components? I have a set of Cobalts with over 3000 miles on them and still going. I just recently had to have them slightly trued. I found a great deal on Ebay years ago with the Smarty pedals which had terrible reviews but for $20 a pair I bought a few pairs. And after 2500 miles the first pair is just now starting to feel funny and make a strange noise. Sometimes I really wonder who is "REALLY" writing these reviews. There is a couple guys in my area also racing with Cobalt Wheels and they have had nothing but great things to say about the wheels. Go with what you feel comfortable in bro. Read the reviews on here and take them with a grain of salt.
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    ^^I've never had any issues with my CB's stuff. My Eggbeater 3's are going on two years. I took them apart a few months back to lube and clean...that's about it. Friend of mine is using another pair of EB's of mine from years ago. Still using them...and that guys never services his stuff.

    I also got a pair of Cobalt 3 wheels. Going on two years running tubeless with no issues. The freehub is making a ticking noise when coasting as of late. Need to check on that.

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    That's what I'm saying. I read all these reviews on the CB stuff and they are either great reviews or completely terrible. Makes you wonder sometimes. I had my Cobalts lubed once and thats it. Going to get the rear wheel trued this week. I was looking for a new set of wheels for a new 29er and after reading many of the threads on the some of the more common better known wheels I think it's Cobalts or Iodines for my bike once again. My buddies swears on the Shimano pedals. And I do like them and like almost everything Shimano makes. And although I think they are a good pedal, his Shimanos gave out before my $20 Smartys. I will also add that im a good 220 geared up and not the smoothest rider. But I ride hard and a lot of that is on coral rock, roots, small drops 1-2 ft and my wheels are still going strong. If my wheels broke right now I honestly wouldn't blame them. LoL
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    Frequent failures are not the only Crank Brothers failing. Their pedals are also prone to inopportune releases on rock strikes. CB's problem is simply that they aren't good engineers and they don't do adequate testing. There is no reason to use their products...everything they make has superior competition.

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    Maybe so Craig but I can guarantee you it's not Mavic.

    edit: ps RS VR6 . See what i mean?
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    I use crank bros Mallet 3.....no problems and a pretty nice pedal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biohazard74 View Post
    Maybe so Craig but I can guarantee you it's not Mavic.

    edit: ps RS VR6 . See what i mean?
    Haha...its all good man. I've never had an issue with any of their stuff...so I got no worries on using CB parts.

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