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    Modded Fox 36

    Modded Fox 36 for the 29er application:

    I have ridden this fork for about 18 months on my Lenz Behemoth.
    I bought it used on MTBR, had Alex Morgan from Buffalo Composite Design (BCD) mod it-(his idea, not mine). From my understanding he uses a CNC machine to machine the arch for clearance of the 29inch wheel and he adds an aluminum spacer to limit travel in one leg of the fork. Last I heard Alex races DH with a Fox 40 with the same mod. I bought the fork for $4hundy, paid alex $120ish for the mod, add shipping, I was into it $550 (not including a new 20mm TA wheel).

    After 18 months of use, I love this fork. It is UBER stiff. Had some flex at first, but it was a POS velocity hoop, this was solved with a wheel change to a ZTR flow.
    The fork performed like every other fox I have had- smooth and supple w/o a lick of problem. Set it up and ride. My first few rides I pinch flatted the front several times. Varied air pressure w/o success, finally went tubeless and have had zero problems since.
    The TALAS option still worked, it was the older model, so I had to dial it up and down, which was a bit of a pain, but at least it still worked. Am tempted to try the new version with the push button TALAS, but have heard the push button travel adjust is finicky.

    As far as the machined arch goes, I am a Behemoth rider for a reason. Clyde central- 6'6" 230 buck nah-ked. I had no problems with flex or cracks. I am also NOT a big jumper, so it didn't take huge jump style hits, but 245lbs geared, barreling down a trail into a G-out, rock garden or step up is good enuff for me.

    There is not a lot of space between the tire and the arch, small rocks stuck in my tread would get wedged in the honeycomb of the back of the arch requiring stoppage for removal- this happened 4-5 times in 18months- not frequently enough for it to be a hassle. I ran the biggest Nevegals made for 29ers (2.3 me thinks). I have only seen the Dissent tire in photos, I see no way it would fit under the arch.
    I ride in SoCal, dry and dusty (thanks for the H20 OR and CO). I would NOT consider this fork anywhere there is mud as you would quickly get impacted, requiring enemization. That being said, I think you could easily take a few more mm out for more space.

    Travel was just over 5"- I measured it at 5 and an 1/8th when I first got it.

    This was a sweet combo with my Behemoth.

    FYI- this may shock some of you, but this is not a Fox approved modification to one of their forks. They have posted a warning on their website, voids your warranty, blah, blah, blah.
    The fact that they know there is this mod should be a sports slap to the head for R&D to get us a Fox F29 36.

    I have sold mine, to try out the new Marzocchi fork, mainly due to itchy feet on my part and desire to try new gear. If it doesn't pan-out I will mod a newer version of the 36.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D3DO
    I have sold mine, to try out the new Marzocchi fork, mainly due to itchy feet on my part and desire to try new gear.
    Is it the Marzocchi 44 Ti QR15 you are talking about? Have you ordered it yet? I'm interested in getting one for an Intense Tracer 29 and would love to know what you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie
    Is it the Marzocchi 44 Ti QR15 you are talking about? Have you ordered it yet? I'm interested in getting one for an Intense Tracer 29 and would love to know what you think.

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    No it is the non-ti version- seen here.
    It is at the shop waiting for the CK 20->15mm conversion kit.

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    Are they shipping now?


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    Quote Originally Posted by D3DO
    No it is the non-ti version- seen here.
    It is at the shop waiting for the CK 20->15mm conversion kit.
    That's the one Intense had on their show bike at Interbike. Maybe I'm being silly but the Ti is reported by Marzocchi to be 390g.(0.86lb.) lighter. I'd still be very interested to find out what you think of it.

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    Here's a question:

    Say the arch of the fork failed. How would that cause a catastrophic failure of the rest of the fork? You wouldn't want to ride it permanently, but it seems to me you could still ride it out. Am I wrong here?
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    Torsional flex would send the tire into the sides of the fork in corners, but I think on an XC trail you'd probably be able to limp home.

    I wouldn't want to have it snap, then still have another 1000' of knarly terrain to descend.

    D3DO Could this same mod be accomplished on say, a RS Pike or really any other fork?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3DO
    The fact that they know there is this mod should be a sports slap to the head for R&D to get us a Fox F29 36
    There's the question right there. What the heck are they thinking? Maybe their not thinking

    Enel's correct as is bcd, if it cracks, big deal, new lowers. Great post D3DO Good looking baby too, takes after mom I'm sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaintPeelinPbody
    Torsional flex would send the tire into the sides of the fork in corners
    I can't imagine something too drastic happening. The bridge would likely show stress cracks well in advance of snapping. Heck, I still have an '04 DC Shiver in great shape that has basically the same thru axle and no bridge at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    Here's a question:

    Say the arch of the fork failed. How would that cause a catastrophic failure of the rest of the fork? You wouldn't want to ride it permanently, but it seems to me you could still ride it out. Am I wrong here?
    I agree- lets say the arch cracks or even complete break, what then? you have an arch-less fork like the Maverick-
    Maybe they are worried about arch vs tire and it sending you OTB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaintPeelinPbody
    D3DO Could this same mod be accomplished on say, a RS Pike or really any other fork?
    You would have to ask Alex is current, I asked after my mod about a pike, 1.5years ago- He said it depends on the thickness of the arch. The Fox was his best candidate due to it's thickness. The RS was the thinnest, so no, the Marzocchi 55 a maybe-
    You could probably talk him into it if you are going to give him a 500-800 dollar fork to tinker with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaintPeelinPbody
    Torsional flex would send the tire into the sides of the fork in corners, but I think on an XC trail you'd probably be able to limp home.
    I doubt it would be a problem with the 20mm TA. Even with Magnesium being fairly weak, these mods seem to leave a good amount of meat.

    I'll be really interested to hear how the Marz (140, I assume) compares. My short list of bikes is a Lenz Behemoth or Lunch Box, Niner WFO, or Sultan, any of which I'd like to have something over 120mm on, and there sure aren't many options.

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    if only the 36 had a tapered steerer tube

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    New question here. Why

    Why in the world would anyone do this mod to a Fox fork when WB makes a 5" fork

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    Quote Originally Posted by 29Inches
    Why in the world would anyone do this mod to a Fox fork when WB makes a 5" fork
    Can I modify a 26er WB fork similarly to work with my 29er wheels?

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    That's the one,

    Quote Originally Posted by D3DO
    No it is the non-ti version- seen here.
    It is at the shop waiting for the CK 20->15mm conversion kit.

    That's the one I've been looking for..I saw this fork on the new Tracer and on a WFO a while back but could not find it on the site..Black stantions (is that right?) look so sick on a black fork....D3DO I don't care what anybody says about the 36 mod, I thought it was a great idea ( to at least try anyway)..I too would LOVE to hear your thoughts on this fork, so if and when you can that would be great..Good luck..CF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    if only the 36 had a tapered steerer tube
    Huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 29Inches
    Why in the world would anyone do this mod to a Fox fork when WB makes a 5" fork

    Even though it would void warranty , be resalable only to a fool , and raise safety concerns........it is pretty unique ! TIG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FoShizzle
    Can I modify a 26er WB fork similarly to work with my 29er wheels?
    You can modify any fork, as long as you limit the travel so the tire don`t hit......and cut the arch. I might be doing surgery on a friends behemoth next month....He is looking on a last year`s production of a nixon comp 160mm.......

    Erling

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebrabaek
    He is looking on a last year`s production of a nixon comp 160mm..
    You really think you can get a 29er wheel under a Nixon 160 arch? I have a Nixon 145 in the garage and an XDX 29er tire exceeds the height of the scrawny little arch by at least a half inch. There's not much meat on a Manitou bridge to shave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGMAN
    Even though it would void warranty , be resalable only to a fool , and raise safety concerns.......
    Plenty of people would buy that fork used. Plenty of people buy them new and send them to be modified. You don't like it, don't buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    good point..totally forgot it was! nevertheless, i am a sheep and will stick with the REBA

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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGMAN
    be resalable only to a fool
    Psalms 94:8 Take heed, you senseless ones among the people; you fools, when will you become wise?

    it has already been sold

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3DO
    Psalms 94:8 Take heed, you senseless ones among the people; you fools, when will you become wise?

    it has already been sold

    Did you at least tell the sucker you sold the bastardized 36 to that Fox has a warning not to do this modification posted on their website ? Well , if enough fools keep doing this mod........maybe Fox and RS will be forced to finally produce a longer travel 29er fork with bigger stanchions so carry on ! TIG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duzitall
    You really think you can get a 29er wheel under a Nixon 160 arch? I have a Nixon 145 in the garage and an XDX 29er tire exceeds the height of the scrawny little arch by at least a half inch. There's not much meat on a Manitou bridge to shave.
    Not without cutting. But instead of removing material......It will be clearcut....and rebuild in Carbon fiber with a higher arch...... I will post pictures if we go ahead....

    Erling

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    ... and if we just ... Haahahha

    Quote Originally Posted by TIGMAN
    Did you at least tell the sucker you sold the bastardized 36 to that Fox has a warning not to do this modification posted on their website ? Well , if enough fools keep doing this mod........maybe Fox and RS will be forced to finally produce a longer travel 29er fork with bigger stanchions so carry on ! TIG.

    You have to just love the haters that come along with there sayings on this topic, I have been on my modified 36 about 2yrs now still pimpin. Don't hate the player hate the game It blows away 32mm forks hands down no comparing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B-RAY
    You have to just love the haters that come along with there sayings on this topic, I have been on my modified 36 about 2yrs now still pimpin. Don't hate the player hate the game It blows away 32mm forks hands down no comparing.

    No hate for the players.........if your having good luck with the mod that's great !

    For the expense and the fact it is not recommended by Fox are the main reasons I would not go for it.........plus I'm happy with my 120 mm Reba w 20 mm TA for now ! Yeah , I agree it would be sweet to see Fox , RS , and others start producing heavier duty 29er forks like the Fox 36 for frames like the WFO and the Lunchbox for example ! The first post I made was just for jest....that's about it ! TIG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGMAN
    No hate for the players.........if your having good luck with the mod that's great !

    For the expense and the fact it is not recommended by Fox are the main reasons I would not go for it.........plus I'm happy with my 120 mm Reba w 20 mm TA for now ! Yeah , I agree it would be sweet to see Fox , RS , and others start producing heavier duty 29er forks like the Fox 36 for frames like the WFO and the Lunchbox for example ! The first post I made was just for jest....that's about it ! TIG.
    I hate the players, the game, but especially hate the toolbagz who like to quote the retarded cliche of "dont hate the player..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duzitall
    You really think you can get a 29er wheel under a Nixon 160 arch? I have a Nixon 145 in the garage and an XDX 29er tire exceeds the height of the scrawny little arch by at least a half inch. There's not much meat on a Manitou bridge to shave.
    I wouldn't like to see a Manitou cut but I often wondered if it would be possible to mate say a Manitou Minute 29 fork lower casting onto a Nixon 160 TPC upper. They both have 32mm. stanchions. Does anyone know if it would be possible? I've had a 2006 Nixon Super TPC on a long travel 26" trail bike the past few years and it's been flawless. I wish I could get a 140 to 150mm. 29 fork like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enel
    Exactly.

    I'm seriously considering going down this road due to the fact it ticks all the boxes:

    Tapered steerer.

    36 stanchions

    20mm T/A

    Adjustable travel

    140 mm travel

    Can't find anything else that tick's 'em - alternatively I'll go the Marz and upgrade when something new comes along.

    @ the OP - thanks for the report, greatly appreciated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie
    I wouldn't like to see a Manitou cut but I often wondered if it would be possible to mate say a Manitou Minute 29 fork lower casting onto a Nixon 160 TPC upper. They both have 32mm. stanchions. Does anyone know if it would be possible? I've had a 2006 Nixon Super TPC on a long travel 26" trail bike the past few years and it's been flawless. I wish I could get a 140 to 150mm. 29 fork like it.

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    It would work...except....you would`nt gain any travel..... See the rod coming from your upper stanchions.....both sides....Will need to be longer as well.....Other why it won`t fully extend, and tire will hit the bottom of the crown...... You need to cut and weld an extension to both rods....then it would work......

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    Quote Originally Posted by n plus one
    Exactly.

    I'm seriously considering going down this road due to the fact it ticks all the boxes:

    Tapered steerer.

    36 stanchions

    20mm T/A

    Adjustable travel

    140 mm travel

    Can't find anything else that tick's 'em - alternatively I'll go the Marz and upgrade when something new comes along.

    @ the OP - thanks for the report, greatly appreciated
    I agree- no other tick's 'em. Still waiting for one that does. Still can't believe it is still the best option, but alas, such is life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebrabaek
    It would work...except....you would`nt gain any travel..... See the rod coming from your upper stanchions.....both sides....Will need to be longer as well.....Other why it won`t fully extend, and tire will hit the bottom of the crown...... You need to cut and weld an extension to both rods....then it would work......

    Erling
    Not sure I agree with you. The more I think about it the more I think it should work. The travel of the Nixon is limited by the travel of the compression and damper rods into the stanchions. If a 29" lower casting were fitted it would come up higher on the stanchions though. The limiting factor would be the danger of the tire or fork lower bottoming out against the crown. This would mean inserting a spacer to limit travel which might mean the exercise is not worth while.

    If someone has a Minute 29, I'd like to know how long the lower casting is from the dropout. I'd like to see how different it is from the Nixon casting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie
    Not sure I agree with you. The more I think about it the more I think it should work. The travel of the Nixon is limited by the travel of the compression and damper rods into the stanchions. If a 29" lower casting were fitted it would come up higher on the stanchions though. The limiting factor would be the danger of the tire or fork lower bottoming out against the crown. This would mean inserting a spacer to limit travel which might mean the exercise is not worth while.

    If someone has a Minute 29, I'd like to know how long the lower casting is from the dropout. I'd like to see how different it is from the Nixon casting.

    Ronnie.
    Okay.....Picture this....Take off the lowers.....Now you have two upper stanchions with a rod sticking out of both. The end of those rods screw into the lowers...... If you then put on a lower cast from a absolute 29`er....the arch will now clear the tire......But at full compression the tire will hit the top of the arch....... Reason I know this is that I tried this myself. All you would achieve is that you would not have to cut the arch.....But remember the 29 inch tire is 1 1/2 inch taller And even on a 26`er nixon there is only 3/8 tire to arch clearance on full stroke.....

    Erling

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebrabaek
    Not without cutting. But instead of removing material......It will be clearcut....and rebuild in Carbon fiber with a higher arch...... I will post pictures if we go ahead....

    Erling
    I would love to see this.

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    can the mod done with a fox 36 VAN as well?

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    Been a while now - anyone had this mod break??

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellocook
    can the mod done with a fox 36 VAN as well?
    Yes.
    I do the TALAS as I like to ratchet down the travel for longer climbs.

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    No failures yet. Am waiting on a new one too....mmmmmmm

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    Leap of faith

    I would love a modded 36 for my DW Sultan - not necessarly for the longer travel but more for the stiffness and the buttery Fox feel. I could then run a coil in the rear and up front. I have thought about purchasing a used Talas 36 off the classifieds here - having it sent for the mod and them shipped to Australia but that would require a fairly large leap of faith. Hell thinking my local engineer can machine it for me and l can put in some spacers to limit travel.
    Any one selling a used modded 36 - please let me know.
    Thanks for the review OP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnd663
    Any one selling a used modded 36 - please let me know
    Used mods are few and far between and usually come at a premium due to rariety.

    It does take a leap of faith, but didn't jumping on your first 29er?

    I would recommend buying a used fork having them ship it to the mod and then having it shipped to you. That is how I did my first, second.... soon to be third. (except the last 2 have been new!!)

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    2 modded Talas 32 100/120/140mm for over a year one on hardtail, other on Tallboy (but 15mm tru axle on the Tb). No breaking of arch. I would do 15mm and maybe tapered to minimize the extra flex in the brace.
    Love it for fast XC stuff. 5'9" 170 lbs. Not made for all mountain or more with the 32 Talas because of weakened arch. Also note: I am really easy on my bikes on the descents at my age. Also, you should not be messing with the arch cutting unless you have cnc machine access and skills.
    http://www.instructables.com/id/How-...-Cheaply-and-/
    Also, imho the mods these days are really only good for shorter guys who benefit from the lower axle/crown and shorter wheelbase with the smaller offset. If I were taller guy that just wanted more travel, I would not mess around with it but would simply use a Reba 29er that this year offers 140mm full time instead. In most cases from what I have seen of many riders that aren't really all that sensitive to slight changes will not notice..whew.
    The fox mod gets me a slightly steeper head angle, shortens up my wheelbase and overall drops my crown height but gives me taking more care with lower bb also. nuff said (repeating self in circles.) flame on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghawk
    Also, imho the mods these days are really only good for shorter guys who benefit from the lower axle/crown and shorter wheelbase with the smaller offset. If I were taller guy that just wanted more travel, I would not mess around with it but would simply use a Reba 29er that this year offers 140mm full time instead.
    I hope you are referring to your 32 TALAS- as the 36 has more travel and WAY more stiffness, and us tall guys (I am 6'6") love the modded Fox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3DO
    I have sold mine, to try out the new Marzocchi fork, mainly due to itchy feet on my part and desire to try new gear. If it doesn't pan-out I will mod a newer version of the 36.
    I have a Moth Martz 44 combo, safe to say you'll be shopping for a new Fox 36 soon unless theres major changes to the 2011.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 29Inches
    Why in the world would anyone do this mod to a Fox fork when WB makes a 5" fork
    36mm stanchions.

    When I built my Sultan I really considered this mod, but figured being 240# probably would not be a good idea. Good to hear OP success.

    I really want a 36mm stanchioned single crown 29er fork. Kinda bummed WB's new line does not seem to have one.

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    WB are bringing some nice forks out this year, still not the promised 36, but much larger mag lowers.
    Why would I care about 150g of bike weight, I just ate 400g of cookies while reading this?

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    I hope you are referring to your 32 TALAS- as the 36 has more travel and WAY more stiffness, and us tall guys (I am 6'6") love the modded Fox.
    Yes, I was mainly commenting on the shorter travel talas 100-140 32 for smaller guys in an XC mode, but I doubt if I would do the mod if I were taller guy only looking to go 140mm.
    Btw, Alex at BCD is not doing the mod anymore is that right ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghawk
    Yes, I was mainly commenting on the shorter travel talas 100-140 32 for smaller guys in an XC mode, but I doubt if I would do the mod if I were taller guy only looking to go 140mm.
    I concur would not run a modded 32 if I was over 180# or ride serious gnar. A Through axel (TA) is a MUST as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by ghawk
    Btw, Alex at BCD is not doing the mod anymore is that right ?
    I am not aware of this, he is currently modding a fork for me, and just did one.
    I would not be surprised as I am sure it is a lot of work for not a lot of scratch.

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    Cool, I sent him pm a few months ago and got no response so I just figured the big F had put the hammer down.
    I would probably not take all the time to do another, much easier and time/cost cheaper and cleaner (my cuts did not look that good as the above picture) to send to him.
    Sure would like to do a new Tlogic Talas if the lockout were firm enough.
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    Just had him do a 2011 Talus 180 for my new Lunchbox and it looks pretty good to me! He charged me 200.00 and took him about a week to do it.

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    Two of the modified fox 36 forks just competed in the "Oct 9th- Red Bull "Final Decent" 12hr DH event" They finished 9th and 20th in solo mens. That says a lot for there durability. The only reason I would hesitate to run one is the tire clearance, a Dessent will not fit. I' am hoping WB comes out with a 150 35.

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    Don't know how any of you can ride these modded forks, first sign of the slightest bit of mud with the minimal clearance and they'd be packing up

    Far as was reported, they did.

    Quote Originally Posted by ghawk
    Cool, I sent him pm a few months ago and got no response so I just figured the big F had put the hammer down.
    I would probably not take all the time to do another, much easier and time/cost cheaper and cleaner (my cuts did not look that good as the above picture) to send to him.
    Sure would like to do a new Tlogic Talas if the lockout were firm enough.
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    Smile So what is the final travel on a 180???

    With this mod done where does the 180 come in as far as travel goes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    Don't know how any of you can ride these modded forks, first sign of the slightest bit of mud with the minimal clearance and they'd be packing up

    Far as was reported, they did.
    With my first mod mud was definately an issue- I ride in SoCal so usually not an issue. I had Alex take out more this time 'round to aid in this area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRUZED
    Two of the modified fox 36 forks just competed in the "Oct 9th- Red Bull "Final Decent" 12hr DH event" They finished 9th and 20th in solo mens. That says a lot for there durability. The only reason I would hesitate to run one is the tire clearance, a Dessent will not fit. I' am hoping WB comes out with a 150 35.
    That is cool to hear. BTW my most recent mod fits a DISSENT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obieone
    With this mod done where does the 180 come in as far as travel goes?
    I will measure tonight. Should be around 165mm, just over 6.5"

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    I have about a 1/4" clearance with my Dissents.

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    If the 160 gives 5 1/8", then the 180 will give 5.9".

    I'd sure like to see what sort of tweaks could be done to extend this. Screwing with the negative spring can help on air forks, and I'm really curious about tire-to-crown clearance.

    Are the 36 lowers aluminum or magnesium? Exposed Magnesium corrodes horribly.

    Too bad there's not a 36-200, huh?

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    I would "assume" the 180 gives just under 6" of travel. TIre to crown on my previous mods was 6-7mm- not much if you ride in mud. This does depend on the tire too- running a Dissent and a 180 would "likely" clear by 5mm, so I've "heard".

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    i'm still doing them if anyone is interested.

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    I have been riding a new 180 Fox 36 with Tapered HT, modded by bcd above. It is out of this world. I can fit a Dissent tire. Suh-WEET!
    Thanks Alex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3DO
    I have been riding a new 180 Fox 36 with Tapered HT, modded by bcd above. It is out of this world. I can fit a Dissent tire. Suh-WEET!
    Thanks Alex.
    Cool I am glad I had enough room.

    Whats your rim width?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcd
    Whats your rim width?
    Don't know width, but I run Salsa Gordos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3DO
    I have been riding a new 180 Fox 36 with Tapered HT, modded by bcd above. It is out of this world. I can fit a Dissent tire. Suh-WEET!
    Thanks Alex.
    What bike are you running it on?

    What is the travel reduced to?

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    Pics?

    D3DO..... got any pics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRUZED
    What bike are you running it on?
    I have a Lenz Lunchbox, tapered HT. 150mm rear, custom geo. WICKED cool. This thing is a beast.

    Quote Originally Posted by BRUZED
    What is the travel reduced to?
    Travel is reduced to 6.5" (165mm) roughly. I have the TALAS version

    Arch was shaved considerably more than my previous mod to fit a Disset.

    As stated previously, this is not a fork for people who ride in mud.

    No pics.........yet.

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    Ot just wait for the 160mm Reba thats coming out. Problem solved

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    Quote Originally Posted by sikocycles
    Ot just wait for the 160mm Reba thats coming out. Problem solved
    If you want to ride a Reba.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3DO
    If you want to ride a Reba.
    Well thats true

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    more please....160mm? says who?

    Quote Originally Posted by sikocycles
    Ot just wait for the 160mm Reba thats coming out. Problem solved

    really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D3DO
    I have a Lenz Lunchbox, tapered HT. 150mm rear, custom geo. WICKED cool. This thing is a beast.



    Travel is reduced to 6.5" (165mm) roughly. I have the TALAS version

    Arch was shaved considerably more than my previous mod to fit a Disset.

    As stated previously, this is not a fork for people who ride in mud.

    No pics.........yet.
    Thanks for the info!

    I have been riding a Moth with a WB 135 since '07 and the fork has been great but, it is showing signs of age. I want to replace with something that will work on a Lunchbox, which will be my next bike. I am thinking (if possible) a 180 Van reduced to 150ish and when I get a lunchbox bump it back up to 165. I can do the arch mod my self, I 'am not sure if it is possible to reduce a 180 to 150ish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sikocycles
    Ot just wait for the 160mm Reba thats coming out. Problem solved
    A 160mm 29er fork with 32mm stanchions just doesn't appeal to me.

    At all.
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    What would you even consider a company to be that stupid to make a 29er fork with 160mm of travel and use 32mm stanchions? When you're talking 160mm of 29" wheel travel, that A2C is equal to a 26" wheel fork with travel of roughly 190+mm and no company is stupid enough to do that using 32mm stanchions. Anything coming out with that sort of travel will be using stanchions above 35mm and they'll most likely offer it from 140mm travel.
    Quote Originally Posted by juan_speeder
    A 160mm 29er fork with 32mm stanchions just doesn't appeal to me.

    At all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juan_speeder
    A 160mm 29er fork with 32mm stanchions just doesn't appeal to me.

    At all.
    X2!

    Quote Originally Posted by LyNx
    What would you even consider a company to be that stupid to make a 29er fork with 160mm of travel and use 32mm stanchions? When you're talking 160mm of 29" wheel travel, that A2C is equal to a 26" wheel fork with travel of roughly 190+mm and no company is stupid enough to do that using 32mm stanchions. Anything coming out with that sort of travel will be using stanchions above 35mm and they'll most likely offer it from 140mm travel.
    Are you sure?


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    Quote Originally Posted by juan_speeder
    A 160mm 29er fork with 32mm stanchions just doesn't appeal to me.

    At all.
    My WB at 150mm works well for me and I weigh 240. Everybody is way too caught up with this size of the stanchion stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sikocycles
    My WB at 150mm works well for me and I weigh 240. Everybody is way too caught up with this size of the stanchion stuff.
    So you have never noticed a difference between, say...a z1 marzocchi & the 66? I can definitely appreciate the added stiffness the larger diameter stanchion forks provide. I can notice it immediately...particularly fighting my way out of ruts...etc.


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    Also, the offset of the Fox 36 is different than a 29er fork. How does this affect the handling?

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    Yes, WB does it, but no ones else will and that's why we haven't seen any from the likes of RS, Fox or Manitou AND WB is moving to 35mm stanchions now as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by jncarpenter
    X2!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hrdude
    Also, the offset of the Fox 36 is different than a 29er fork. How does this affect the handling?
    Handles like a dream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hrdude
    Also, the offset of the Fox 36 is different than a 29er fork. How does this affect the handling?
    With the larger wheel, offset is not as big of a deal anymore. I don't think most people are going to notice on a 29er.

    In fact, without MTBR, I don't think most would know what fork offset means.

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    So what about the Mav DUC 36 ?
    DUC 36 carbon updates??

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    You have got to be kiding me, maybe you don't know and can't notice Most may not know what it is, but I'm sure nearly all can easily tell the difference when riding a bike using different offset forks - it's night and day going from the older 38mm offset to a modern 46mm offset. How is offset not as big a deal anymore for 29ers? It's what has made the 29ers come alive, allowing for slackers angles, while not steering like a truck. What bike do you ride and what fork?
    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusSommers
    With the larger wheel, offset is not as big of a deal anymore. I don't think most people are going to notice on a 29er.

    In fact, without MTBR, I don't think most would know what fork offset means.
    People have been using the DUCs on 29ers for a good few years now, do some searching around and you'll find more info. Can't say as I've seen anyone use the bigger travel versions, but loads run the shorter for bikes with 100-120mm rear travel and most who like them on a 26er like them on a 29er.
    Quote Originally Posted by dbcht
    So what about the Mav DUC 36 ?
    DUC 36 carbon updates??
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbcht
    So what about the Mav DUC 36 ?
    DUC 36 carbon updates??
    Where's BMJ? I think that's Duke Nukem's fork...

    My 44 is treating me pretty nicely now. It'll have to be more than the rumored Revelation 150 to get me to upgrade forks. Niner now lists geo numbers for 160mm fork, which is where some of the speculation comes from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbcht
    So what about the Mav DUC 36 ?
    DUC 36 carbon updates??
    I had a Duc on 2 separate 29ers. It is the fork I had right before my first modded fox. Not a bad fork. A little flexy. The downfall proprietary hub size and need for expensive parts to fit different bikes. Definitely not made for a long travel bike.

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    I liked the Duc32 on my 26er. I had it on three bikes over 5 years. When I converted it to 29er, it definately got flexy. To short on travel and A-C length for the likes of my WFO as well.

    Had a pre-order in on a Duc36 well over a year ago. Delivery dates kept coming and going with new ones not being met either. Frustrated, I've written Maverick off and moved on. My WB 150 has worked out great so far. I'm due for service but that's about it.

    I'd love to nab a 35 or 36mm formate 150mm-160mm Fox something or other. Not ready to drop the cake on a $1000 fork and hack away at it though. I'd definately go for the stiffer set-up when the appropriate Fox fork comes along. I do feel the for-aft loading and unloading of the 32mm WB 150. Not quite up to the capabilities or cost of a Dorado fur shur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMJ
    I'd love to nab a 35 or 36mm formate 150mm-160mm Fox something or other. Not ready to drop the cake on a $1000 fork and hack away at it .
    To me this is the beauty of the mod. My first mod was a $375 eBay special. Added to it $150 for the mod and you are done. When I was sold on the idea I sold the fork to another 29er nut on MTBR. I rode the fork for 18 months. I did kick down full price for the new 180mm offerings so I could have a great fork for my new lunch box. It was totally worth it.

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    Anyone mod a Float 36? Let's see if I have this right....a 160mmFloat 36 could be set to 140mm travel, yes? 2.4 Ardent on Flow rims still fit though the arch?

    I was thinking it might get a visit to PUSH first.

    Thoughts?

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    Dude, seriously, are you in a rush for something with bigger stanchions? If you're not, just be patient and see what RS, Fox release at Sea Otter. Too many rumors floating around from the likes of GT and other industry insiders for them not to be releasing something with 35mm stanchions and a bit more travel
    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    Anyone mod a Float 36? Let's see if I have this right....a 160mmFloat 36 could be set to 140mm travel, yes? 2.4 Ardent on Flow rims still fit though the arch?

    I was thinking it might get a visit to PUSH first.

    Thoughts?
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    My worry is that they will be tapered steer tube only.

    My rush is not only for a stiffer chassis but also for the quality of travel in a 140mm straight steerer fork. Plus I still have to find a good used 2010 Float RLC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    Anyone mod a Float 36? Let's see if I have this right....a 160mmFloat 36 could be set to 140mm travel, yes? 2.4 Ardent on Flow rims still fit though the arch?

    I was thinking it might get a visit to PUSH first.

    Thoughts?
    I wasn't gonna reply, but you seem to be on the fence. I've seen modded Talas, Float and Van. All work as designed. I am not selling the mod, or involved other than being a user. However, my bike would not be as good as it is without the 150ish mm of travel it currently has up front.

    And I have a 20mm thru axle and 1.5 steerer. Super burly.

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    How's tire clearance with a real 2.4 tire? Anyone have pics?

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    Take it you're looking at this for the older 1.125" HT Sultan then? I'd have to say you'd be right that when they come out it'll be with a tapered steerer at least.
    Quote Originally Posted by SSINGA
    My worry is that they will be tapered steer tube only.

    My rush is not only for a stiffer chassis but also for the quality of travel in a 140mm straight steerer fork. Plus I still have to find a good used 2010 Float RLC.
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    Any updates? Really considering this for my sultan.

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    I have been riding a modified '11 Van 36 for about a month on a Lenz moth. I like it a lot.

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    I have been running my 180 modded 36 modded fox with tapered HT for 6+ months with out a complaint. Wicked stiff, plush, yummmy. Thanks God I did not wait for reba or some other offering.

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    Looks awesome!

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    I gonna do this on my el capitan, 1 1/8th steerer. What I can't decide is:

    180/140 talas (giving 160/120 post mod))

    Or 160 float (giving 140)

    Quite like the idea of the big fork for something serious to have on teh downs, but still respectible the rest of the time. Would it be too slack though?

    Can't decide!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRUZED View Post
    I have been riding a modified '11 Van 36 for about a month on a Lenz moth. I like it a lot.
    Is it the Fox Fork 36 Van 160 RC2 Fit 20QR 2011 modded to 140mm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RipRoar View Post
    Is it the Fox Fork 36 Van 160 RC2 Fit 20QR 2011 modded to 140mm?
    Yes

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