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    Several times I find my skewers coming loose during a ride. Stock skewers, and I tighten them pretty good. Any ideas?

    2012 Trek SF AL Elite. Stock skewers.

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    Use better skewers. Shimano XT are my go to skewers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammy56 View Post
    Several times I find my skewers coming loose during a ride. Stock skewers, and I tighten them pretty good. Any ideas?

    2012 Trek SF AL Elite. Stock skewers.
    Put it on even tighter. Maybe try a little blue loctite on the threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty $anchez View Post
    Use better skewers. Shimano XT are my go to skewers.
    This. You definitely don't want your front wheel to come off from loose skoor's.
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    I know a guy who ended up in the emergency room and had face surgery after his front wheel came off. Take this problem seriously and fix it!

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    thanks for the replies...never had this issue before.

    better skewers in my future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammy56 View Post
    thanks for the replies...never had this issue before.

    better skewers in my future.

    Until then a drop or two of lube on the skewer cam where it pivots on the concave washer will allow that QR to cinch down tighter, but I would still get better ones soon.

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    This year's superfly elite is a $5 k bike that comes with Bontrager wheels. You would think they would put decent skewers on them. Do they have any markings?

    Skewers aren't exactly high tech equipment. Maybe it is just an issue of needing lube. If it is dry and gritty, it can feel hard to close, yet not really be getting tight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    This year's superfly elite is a $5 k bike that comes with Bontrager wheels. You would think they would put decent skewers on them. Do they have any markings?

    Skewers aren't exactly high tech equipment. Maybe it is just an issue of needing lube. If it is dry and gritty, it can feel hard to close, yet not really be getting tight.
    There are many, many "high end" skewers that are garbage. No external cam skewer works as easily and clamps as well as a decent internal cam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty $anchez View Post
    Use better skewers. Shimano XT are my go to skewers.
    I second this... they are affordable, strong, and fail-free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty $anchez View Post
    Use better skewers. Shimano XT are my go to skewers.
    Yes, x926!!

    You can get XT Skewers off fleabay pretty cheap if you look. Also, Deore, LX and SLX are pretty much the same, but slightly heavier and less pretty... if you're on a budget.

    Yeah, many stock skewers are complete garbage, to the point where I think CPSC should get involved and order a recall. Most of them use durlin bushings, which is a plastic that deforms and wears out pretty fast. All of the tension on that bushing is what holds the wheel on.

    This is especially important with front disc brake equipped bikes... which is pretty much everything on dirt these days. The direction of forces from the disk brake wants to basically eject the axle from the dropout. At best, the axle slides a bit to the lawyer tab, making the front brake rub.

    All of this assumes you are tightening the skewer the right way. I don't know you, so I don't know if you are a seasoned pro or a complete n003... so I'll tell you anyway.

    DO NOT tighten the skewer all the way by turning it around by the handle like a crank until snug. What you do is you tighten the nut so that when the skewer is sticking out 90 degrees straight out from the closed position, all of the slop is gone from the skewer shaft. THEN, you close the skewer handle, applying tension to the skewer.

    I can't tell you how many times I found somebody on the trail riding with the skewer in the open position, and they just tightened it down by turning the handle around and around until it felt snug... not using the cam on the QR at all. I'm just making sure this isn't what you are doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    This year's superfly elite is a $5 k bike that comes with Bontrager wheels. You would think they would put decent skewers on them. Do they have any markings?

    Skewers aren't exactly high tech equipment. Maybe it is just an issue of needing lube. If it is dry and gritty, it can feel hard to close, yet not really be getting tight.
    Yeah, Bontrager skewers are garbage. I've thrown a few of those in the trash myself. Just go with XTs and be done with it.

    The only non-shimano skewers I would use are Hope or Salsa... and Salsa aren't even that great. Hope at least uses brass bushings instead of durlin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    There are many, many "high end" skewers that are garbage. No external cam skewer works as easily and clamps as well as a decent internal cam.
    I assume a standard quick release is an external cam? What is an internal cam?

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    FWIW, I've had issues with stock bontrager skewers loosening up before. Solved, as has been noted above by moving to XT's.

    I've also had bonty skewers that have worked fine, but I still prefer the Shimanos.
    I'm looking forward to regretting this.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by duggus View Post
    Thanks. Rep to you!

    So internal are the standard Shimano type I've been using since I was a kid. I guess I can see a theoretical advantage to that style, but I have to say I've never had a problem with any of the many types of external cam QR's I have used over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyspoke View Post
    FWIW, I've had issues with stock bontrager skewers loosening up before. Solved, as has been noted above by moving to XT's.

    I've also had bonty skewers that have worked fine, but I still prefer the Shimanos.
    It looks like Bontrager has both external and internal type QR's.

    Bontrager: Replacement Skewers (Model #02343)
    Bontrager: Replacement Skewers (Model #02343)

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot View Post

    The only non-shimano skewers I would use are Hope or Salsa... and Salsa aren't even that great. Hope at least uses brass bushings instead of durlin.
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    The Hope's with the brass seat look really nice.

    Especially since we all know that the most important characteristic in a QR is the COLOR.

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    stock bontrager skewers...

    the consensus that theyre junk solves it for me. XT's ordered.

    not a noob, but not an expert on skewers either...never had this issue before. Wasnt sure if this was common.

    thanks for the replies and links!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    *Delrin

    The Hope's with the brass seat look really nice.

    Especially since we all know that the most important characteristic in a QR is the COLOR.
    Oh, right. Derlin.

    Agreed about the color. Nothing but silver. All other colors are slower.

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    Don't Fu$k about and get XT or better yet XTR skewers, and you will not have to consider it again. Better $50 for skewers, than $100 in dentist bills...
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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    *Delrin

    The Hope's with the brass seat look really nice.

    Especially since we all know that the most important characteristic in a QR is the COLOR.
    I still have a few "open" skewers that at the time I think "these work pretty well" until I grab a wheel with an XT. Just no comparison in ease of use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDummy View Post
    Don't Fu$k about and get XT or better yet XTR skewers, and you will not have to consider it again. Better $50 for skewers, than $100 in dentist bills...
    I use Deore, XT, and XTR skewers. The XTs are a bit nicer/easier to use than the Deore. Can not tell any difference in function between XT and XTR.

    Mine either came with hubs (THE cheapest way to get them, if you need hubs, too), or I found the skewers at a bargain price.
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    I didn't know they had internal QR's. Mine were both external, and looked identical. One set would loosen up about every other ride though.

    Glancing through Sheldon's site, I wonder if the fact the one set that loosened up was on a disk brake bike. The ones I never had problems with are on on old v-brake bike.

    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    It looks like Bontrager has both external and internal type QR's.

    Bontrager: Replacement Skewers (Model #02343)
    Bontrager: Replacement Skewers (Model #02343)
    I'm looking forward to regretting this.......

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