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    I'm sure this has been covered before but I wanted to offer a recommendation for LaceMine29 wheels. I just received my wheels which consist of my CK hubs laced to Flow EX rims with DT spokes and nips. I have yet to mount and ride them but my initial impression is as good as it gets. The tension "sounds" as even as I've ever heard from a wheel...both sides of both wheels. I'm usually doing good to keep tension fairly even on the drive side rear and disc side front while the slack side tends to have variances. Not these wheels. Ping, ping, ping, ping...very little change in pitch from spoke to spoke.

    Additionally, I thought I knew how I wanted the wheelset built. But, after an excessive number of questions and emails from myself and a high level of patience from the builder, I was given a couple recommendations that differed from my initial thoughts. Flow EX instead of i23 due to the tires I liked to run. DT A3 spokes instead of standard double butted fair due to my size and riding requirements.

    I can't wait to get the Covert 29 built and give these hoops a good thrashing! Moab next spring...bring it on!!!

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    Yup, both my bikes are rolling on Mike's wheels. Good wheels, good prices, good service, but you hit the nail on the head for why I really keep going back: I doubt anyone else has more experience with the options for wheels the burlier end of the 29er spectrum.
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    Third that...

    Quote Originally Posted by titusquasi View Post
    I'm sure this has been covered before but I wanted to offer a recommendation for LaceMine29 wheels. I just received my wheels which consist of my CK hubs laced to Flow EX rims with DT spokes and nips. I have yet to mount and ride them but my initial impression is as good as it gets. The tension "sounds" as even as I've ever heard from a wheel...both sides of both wheels. I'm usually doing good to keep tension fairly even on the drive side rear and disc side front while the slack side tends to have variances. Not these wheels. Ping, ping, ping, ping...very little change in pitch from spoke to spoke.

    Additionally, I thought I knew how I wanted the wheelset built. But, after an excessive number of questions and emails from myself and a high level of patience from the builder, I was given a couple recommendations that differed from my initial thoughts. Flow EX instead of i23 due to the tires I liked to run. DT A3 spokes instead of standard double butted fair due to my size and riding requirements.

    I can't wait to get the Covert 29 built and give these hoops a good thrashing! Moab next spring...bring it on!!!
    Mike built me a low rent but good XT with NOS Bontrager Mustang rim, DT Double butted spokes for a great price. The wheel has been rock solid on my hardtail. It hasn't needed a lick of adjusting in the 3 years I've been riding it, and that is saying something under my 208 pound behind.

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    I've been riding my Lacemine29 wheels (Stans Flow with DT350 hubs) for three months now. They are fantastic. The difference was immediately obvious, and is also apparent whenever I ride a different bike with inferior wheels. Mike not only has top-notch technical skill but also was very patient and helpful with me as I hemmed and hawed over the options, and he helped steer me away from my initial ideas and towards what was the right wheelset for my desire, size, and riding style.

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    I also have nothing but great things to say about wheels built by Mike Curiak. I normally purchase machine built wheels, 're-tension' them, de-stress them, and do a final truing. Wheels built by Mike obviously don't require these final steps (which sometimes take me 30-40 min. or more). But the biggest difference in my mind is that Mike really takes the time to identify what the customer needs, and the components that will work best for him/her. This is something he doesn't necessarily have to do, but you can tell that he wants his customers to be completely satisfied by their purchase and exceed their expectations.
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    Yep... good stuff.

    I have quite a few wheels built by Mike and they are going strong.

    A old style, super light Stan's 355, was built up on a King SS hub for me quite a few years ago by Mike. After many brutal miles of SS bashing over NE rocks, under my 180# and the thing is still going strong. I can't believe it. I want it to die so I can have the hub built up on a wider rim but don't have the heart to tear it down as it is still going strong.

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    The King/Arch wheels I got from him have been spot on since the day I slapped them on my RIP, going on two years now. Good shiit!
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    We are a couple of years on a set of MC wheels now and other than some alloy nips breaking, they have been true and steady. That is under a 240lb rider.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtroy View Post
    We are a couple of years on a set of MC wheels now and other than some alloy nips breaking, they have been true and steady. That is under a 240lb rider.
    Thanks, all, for the ups.

    Mike--are these the JeffJ wheels?

    Did the nips break JRA, or when twisted?

    Any pattern to the breakage--front/rear, tight side or loose?

    Any info helps to keep improving, incrementally.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Thanks, all, for the ups.

    Mike--are these the JeffJ wheels?

    Did the nips break JRA, or when twisted?

    Any pattern to the breakage--front/rear, tight side or loose?

    Any info helps to keep improving, incrementally.

    Cheers,

    MC
    They are the same! I will page him to the post here...I am not sure of the details.
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    I've been running 3 different wheelsets built by Mike for nearly 4 years now. XC racing, mild-XC, low speed tech-grunts, and high speed Moab chunk haven't phased 'em one bit. The oldest set - Hopes/Flows - are as true as the day they showed up.

    The thing I appreciate most, other than his high quality product, is his willingness to help. I've not had a single question go unanswered when working with him on a build. Heck, he even guided me along while during my last bike build, and he had nothing to gain in doing so.

    I'll never go elsewhere for a set of wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikesee View Post
    Thanks, all, for the ups.

    Mike--are these the JeffJ wheels?

    Did the nips break JRA, or when twisted?

    Any pattern to the breakage--front/rear, tight side or loose?

    Any info helps to keep improving, incrementally.

    Cheers,

    MC
    I have broken two nipples on the rear wheel. I would have to really look close to see if I can find which spoke the first one broke on, but IIRC, it may have been a nipple on a drive side spoke. It happened a while back so the memory is a little fuzzy. The latest one is a braking spoke on the non-drive side. I know this because I decided to replace any more broken nipples with silver nipples to be able to see if there is going to be a pattern.

    Both times I replaced the nipple and brought it back to the same tension as the others and then did a few VERY minor adjustments to get things back to normal.

    I don't recall noticing the exact moment either nipple broke, just discovered it afterward.

    Edit: OK, it just came back to me about the first one. The spoke had a small kink in it about an inch and a half above the nipple like it had been had possibly taken a rock strike. I'll snap a pic of it tomorrow.
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    My old hope/flows are still going strong after almost 3 years. They were delivered true from day one and have held up really well. And I weigh 225. Mike is patient thru the ordering process and address any concerns...I just ordered some enves/kings from Mike now they can't come quick enough!

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    Pics of the wheelset waiting on a frame. I'm really liking the concept behind the DT A3 triple butted spokes. This is something I would have never thought of myself. Wheelset weighed 2060g with tape and valves.
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    Mike's experience with all manner and application of 29er wheelsets was the key for me- it doesn't just build a better wheel, it keeps me from building ones that are wrong for my use. That is what separates him from the local wheelbuilders who will put together whatever you want but often lack firsthand knowledge of specific builds. I have been wrong with component choices before so critical feedback (or pushback) is vital!

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    Mike built up some burly wheels for my DH bike (lenz PBJ). dt440, salsa gordo, alpine spokes.

    They came out super nice, I'm about to order another set from him for my tracer29.




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    Interesting...

    Quote Originally Posted by titusquasi View Post
    Pics of the wheelset waiting on a frame. I'm really liking the concept behind the DT A3 triple butted spokes. This is something I would have never thought of myself. Wheelset weighed 2060g with tape and valves.
    What advantage are you getting over a double butted like a DT Comp 2.0/1.8?

    I've never had a spoke fail at the hub-spoke interface.

    Kings are what I run and actually have the same pewter set that are probably over 10 years old. Do these tripple butted fit OK in regular King flange/holes?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky J View Post
    Mike's experience with all manner and application of 29er wheelsets was the key for me- it doesn't just build a better wheel, it keeps me from building ones that are wrong for my use. That is what separates him from the local wheelbuilders who will put together whatever you want but often lack firsthand knowledge of specific builds. I have been wrong with component choices before so critical feedback (or pushback) is vital!
    Well put. That's pretty much what I meant, but you expressed it much better. Lots of places can build you a quality wheel, including my friend's shop. I've had good wheels from there, but as solid as they are, they'll be laced by someone who doesn't care for 29ers, doesn't ride them, and doesn't have any personal experience with the combination I spec. In hindsight, I've made some bad choices, too. When I build a dirt jumper, I'll support the locals. But for my 'real' bikes, I'm sticking with Mike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miker J View Post
    What advantage are you getting over a double butted like a DT Comp 2.0/1.8?

    I've never had a spoke fail at the hub-spoke interface.

    Kings are what I run and actually have the same pewter set that are probably over 10 years old. Do these tripple butted fit OK in regular King flange/holes?

    Thanks.
    Sorry for the delay...back from Christmas.

    I've had spokes break at the j-bend. I think this is what these spokes are designed to eliminate. Maybe they add a bit of stiffness...don't know. Mike just said that for my weight (230), bike (140 mm AM FS), and wheel size (29) this spoke would be the most durable. That's the magic word for me.

    The j-bend is over 2.3 in size. I don't think Mike drilled my hubs so they must fit Kings. The hubs are 8 years old and run like new. Love 'em!

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    Resurrecting this old thread to give Mike another flawless review. I was rolling on the stock Stans ZTR Rapid rims with salsa(formula) hubs that came on my El Mariachi for 18 months. North star, and mammoth finally did those in enough for me to have an excuse to get some custom handbuilt goodness to roll on. So I found Mike and filled out his question are about riding style, terrain, weight, etc. and he came up with Stans Arch EX's with Chris King hubs. He also suggested maxxis dhf(fr) and maxxis HR2 for rear. Due to his reviews I was all in on his recommendations. He graciously answered the many questions I had(back and forth for like six emails in one day), went through a little extra effort to get me the sour apples, and had my new wheels to me in a couple weeks. Being my first custom wheelset, I was in awe at the difference the wheels made. I expected a fairly big change but I had no idea how much. It's like a new bike. Railing turns like never before without a hint of that little wiggle I would sometimes get on bumpy turns. The stiffness was immediately noticeable on climbs as well. What fun the Chris Kings are when ratcheting across a creek of through rocks/roots. Thank you Mike, for making my riding experience all new again!

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    Not that he needs it, but another very satisfied customer here. Mike has built a number of wheelsets for me, some with all new parts, some with parts I sent him. All have been perfect. My oldest set on my SS (Hope & Flow) have been going strong for over 7 years now and I have not touched a spoke! Wheels are just something I don't think about anymore while riding.

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    Mikes site is down for me, and my email got kicked back to me.

    Anyone else having problems?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dropout33 View Post
    Mikes site is down for me, and my email got kicked back to me.

    Anyone else having problems?
    Working hard on this right now, and for the last ~day.

    Thanks for your patience.

    If you'd like you can simply send email direct to me @: mike dot curiak at gmail dot com.

    Thanks.

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    Cool, hopefully you get it sorted, I'm sure its a pita.

    I'll shoot you an email about a quote you sent me.

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    Well, actually first I should say 'Harrumph'.



    And then, a week and half later, I can say "Phew!".











    What's the hubbub?



    For reasons still unexplained, my wheelbuilding website went down early last week. Kaput. At first, before I knew it was down, I was enjoying a lack of emails to respond to, allowing me to get caught up on a few things around the shop.



    Sometime Tuesday it started to seem unnaturally quiet, so I went looking and found an error message when I tried to load the site.



    Thus followed a week of almost unbelievable emails and phone calls to the old host (largely placed on my behalf by Greg Luck and Robb Reece) where no one could explain why the site was down, no one seemed to give a rip that it was, and no one showed any impetus whatsoever in helping to get it back up.











    And that was when people bothered to answer the phone or respond to emails.



    So I just essentially had an unpaid 9 days in the shop.



    Compounding that, I woke with a pinched nerve last weekend and have been unable to ride, or paddle, or really do much of anything other than sit at my desk where nothing much is happening.



    Fortunately, I had the time to tidy up some minuscule accounting details and if not for that I wouldn't have noticed a few unauthorized charges on my accounts. While Europcar and GermanSingles might, in some future time, be businesses that I patronize, I have not yet done so. Thus followed a few stressful phone calls and trips down to the bank to get all of that squared away.











    While I was dealing with other things, Robb and Greg went to bat to get the site back online, with just a few minor details to touch up when time permits.



    I'm sharing this because many people reached out in different ways to let me know the site was down, many others were concerned that I'd stopped building wheels altogether, and others reached out to ask for a heads-up when the site was live again.



    So there it is: The site is live, as am I, and as soon as the emails start to filter through the ether I'll be back to building wheels, business as usual.



    As an aside, I have an inordinate amount of stuff available on my sale blog. Please check it out and make an offer.



    Thanks for your patience and understanding.



    Mike Curiak

    Proprietor and sole bathroom sweeper, LaceMine29.com





    The pics above have no relevance whatsoever to anything at all that was written about herein, I just liked them.

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