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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead! Going tubeless with rim tape instead of the rubber rim-strip???

    Hey guys,

    The clowns in my local bike shop ordered me the wrong size Stans tubeless kit, (the all mountain one instead of the XC one)...

    So my options are, either stick with tubes, or try running tubeless using the tape, which I found another shop has the right size of.

    I have a 24 hour race over the weekend and was hoping to have it all sorted by now, didn't need this hassle!

    Anyone's thoughts on my best option please???

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    They are DT rims btw.
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    Gettho tubless for the race then get the right size tape later.
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    How do you get the valve to seal properly on the rim when using the tape?
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    Go ghetto tubeless.

    Take a 20 inch presta tube and split it lengthwise, opposite the valve.

    I used that on one of my bikes. Works great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damitletsride! View Post
    How do you get the valve to seal properly on the rim when using the tape?
    Did you buy valves when you bought the tape? If not you can cut the presta valves out of an old tube.

    After you put the tape in, make an x with a razor blade in the tape over the hole where the valves go. Put the valves in and screw the lock ring down. It should have a pretty good seal to begin with. The sealant should take care of the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro View Post
    Go ghetto tubeless.

    Take a 20 inch presta tube and split it lengthwise, opposite the valve.

    I used that on one of my bikes. Works great.
    Could you explain more? Not sure how a 20" tube could fit a 29er.
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    Get a 24" tube cut it all around on the outside (opposite side of the valve) place the valve through the hole and lay the tube around the wheel.
    Mount your tire 3/4 of the way put 2 scoops of Stan's fully mount the tire and use an air compressor to air up.
    Make sure to wet the whole tire bead with soapy water for an air tight seal.
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    Just be careful sometimes it looks like the are going to seal good getto style but when you get on the trail and hit stuff kinda hard it will burp air.....what kind of tires do you have

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaintanthemx29 View Post
    Just be careful sometimes it looks like the are going to seal good getto style but when you get on the trail and hit stuff kinda hard it will burp air.....what kind of tires do you have
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    Is the ghetto style better than using tape?
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    like i said it may work fine but some times it doesn't i have maxxis ardent 2.4 tire they work great but i have stand strips but if you need to do a race coming up i wouldn't want to risk it

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    Best option: Use tape. Stan's is OK but you get 10 yards for $14 bucks. 3M strapping tape is better AND is $4.75 for 50 yards...It is blue ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2mtbike View Post
    Best option: Use tape. Stan's is OK but you get 10 yards for $14 bucks. 3M strapping tape is better AND is $4.75 for 50 yards...It is blue ...
    I wish I knew I just bought a roll of Stans tape.
    Does the 3M really work as well as the STANS tape?
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    I would not say that it is better. Remember one thing, Stan did not create the sealant or tape. He used what was already available with minor changes. The tape he has is just Tensilized polypropylene strapping tape. Been around for years....He just made it yellow and gives you much less of it. It is hard to question the quality of the 3M/Scotch brand tape. They can mass produce it for cheaper...it is exactly the same as Stan's. But for 1/3 the price and 5 times the amount......I go with 3m.

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    I just use Gorilla Duct Tape. Cheap. Bomber. Pretty much idiot-proof to set up. Never budges.

    Side note: If the course is at all rugged, the Aspen is a little bit on the light duty end of things for tubeless conversion, at least for my tastes. YMMV!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damitletsride! View Post
    Hey guys,

    The clowns in my local bike shop ordered me the wrong size Stans tubeless kit, (the all mountain one instead of the XC one)...

    So my options are, either stick with tubes, or try running tubeless using the tape, which I found another shop has the right size of.

    I have a 24 hour race over the weekend and was hoping to have it all sorted by now, didn't need this hassle!

    Anyone's thoughts on my best option please???

    Thanks.
    Do not use anything for a race that you have not tested and sorted.

    Stay with tubes.

    Muck around with conversions later, if you must.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    Do not use anything for a race that you have not tested and sorted.

    Stay with tubes.

    Muck around with conversions later, if you must.

    gosh i was hoping someone would post this ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by bt View Post
    gosh i was hoping someone would post this ^^
    +1 ^

    And after the race, use Gorilla tape, it is the best solution IMHO.

    Plus G-tape has about 1.9million other uses around the home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    Do not use anything for a race that you have not tested and sorted.
    My thoughts exactly...

    You think it's a hassle right now...wait till you have to deal with a problem during the race because you hastily set it up right before the race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    Do not use anything for a race that you have not tested and sorted.

    Stay with tubes.

    Muck around with conversions later, if you must.
    Never try out something new at a race. Work the bugs out first before you race on it. It would suck to roll up to the starting gate with flat tires becuase something was wrong with your conversion. LIke shiggy said stay with tubes until you test your tubeless out.

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    I'm not familiar with the dt rims but the rubber rimstrips are a must for non tubeless rims otherwise you will have a blowout, which is much more dangerous than a pinchflat. Without a tubeless beadhook on the rim there is nothing to lock the tire bead in place, this is where the rimstrip comes into play. Ghetto tubeless works ok but as was said you will occasionally burp with lower pressures. With a real tubeless rim you most likely can use only tape.

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    so whats better?
    3m tape ?

    or 20 "tube?

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    A economical rim tape is electricians tape - 2 tightly stretched wraps. For 99 cents you can wrap 4 29er rims. It works - I run tubeless on both my hardtail & fs 29er bikes using Stan's sealant & the electrical tape with no problems.

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    Going tubeless with rim tape instead of the rubber rim-strip???

    Quote Originally Posted by jiw71 View Post
    A economical rim tape is electricians tape - 2 tightly stretched wraps. For 99 cents you can wrap 4 29er rims. It works - I run tubeless on both my hardtail & fs 29er bikes using Stan's sealant & the electrical tape with no problems.
    What kind of rims?

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