• 04-03-2012
    Slow Danger
    Closest bar to Jones Loop H bar?
    I rode a bike with the Jones Loop bars on it. Really liked the bars. Are there any bars out there that are close to the Loops in width and sweep? I know about the Ragley, Salsa, Mary, and other alt bars, but they all seem to have around 25 degree sweep. The jones is over 40 degrees. Options?
  • 04-03-2012
    mtnbiker72
    On-One Mary Bars are somewhere near 40 degree sweep

    Origin-8 Space Bar OR2 is around 40 degree sweep as well

    Titec J-Bar if you can find one is a copy of the original Jones J-Bar

    Jones does make the Loop bars in aluminum for just over $100
  • 04-03-2012
    Guy.Ford
    Theres a pair of Jones Loop bars on ebay Ive been watching that are pretty cheap right now.

    Ive been thinking about giving them a shot too, but at $120 a pair its not a cheap trial and I tend to prefer wiiiiiiiiide bars.
  • 04-03-2012
    Slow Danger
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mtnbiker72 View Post
    On-One Mary Bars are somewhere near 40 degree sweep

    Origin-8 Space Bar OR2 is around 40 degree sweep as well

    Titec J-Bar if you can find one is a copy of the original Jones J-Bar

    Jones does make the Loop bars in aluminum for just over $100

    Cool. Good info. I'll take another look at the Mary bars, and I hadn't hear of the Origin-8's. I tried the J bar, but didn't like it. Not wide enough. I like wide. As another poster mentioned, the Jones bars are $120. Not bad, but I tend to have weird ideas about how much a handlebar is worth. Get too much over $50 and I have to think to myself: with all the bars out there, there's got to be something just as good cheaper. I don't mind spending big money on wheels and drivetrain, but bars and stems? No way. Now, what appeals to me about the Jones bar is the width and sweep. All the hand position options, less so. For someone who really likes all the hand-positioning, the Jones bars are probably a square deal.
  • 04-03-2012
    Slow Danger
    So before I created this thread, I used the search function here for anything with "jones" in the title. Nothing came up that answered my question. Tried "Loop". Not much else. After mtnbiker72's list, I google Mary bars and a bunch of mtbr threads come up comparing alt bars and Loop bars and mentioning Jones. I just learned to use google search instead of the search function here at mtbr. Anyways, I found this pic of a Mary bar over a Loop bar, and they look pretty close:

    Jones Loop H-Bar 10 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
  • 04-03-2012
    bsieb
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bluestatevirgin View Post
    Cool. Good info. I'll take another look at the Mary bars, and I hadn't hear of the Origin-8's. I tried the J bar, but didn't like it. Not wide enough. I like wide. As another poster mentioned, the Jones bars are $120. Not bad, but I tend to have weird ideas about how much a handlebar is worth. Get too much over $50 and I have to think to myself: with all the bars out there, there's got to be something just as good cheaper. I don't mind spending big money on wheels and drivetrain, but bars and stems? No way. Now, what appeals to me about the Jones bar is the width and sweep. All the hand position options, less so. For someone who really likes all the hand-positioning, the Jones bars are probably a square deal.

    I will get the loop bar next, not so much for the hand positions but for the headlight, gps, and computer real estate. It's harder to mount a headlight on the J/H bars plus it's behind all the cables, which creates noticeable shadows in the light beam. Alt bars can be a headache for bar mounted accessories. I'm thinking the titanium version because I don't use the crutch of suspension. ;)
  • 04-03-2012
    Slow Danger
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bsieb View Post
    I will get the loop bar next, not so much for the hand positions but for the headlight, gps, and computer real estate. It's harder to mount a headlight on the J/H bars plus it's behind all the cables, which creates noticeable shadows in the light beam. Alt bars can be a headache for bar mounted accessories. I'm thinking the titanium version because I don't use the crutch of suspension. ;)

    Good points on Loop bar's additional value. When you start adding up the little things the Loops make sense.
  • 04-04-2012
    Slow Danger
    So after Google search, I got some options:

    Mary bar-Hard to find. Maybe only through On-One. 645mm wide & 31.8.
    Soma Clarance-AL bar. Maybe wider than Mary? 390 grams & 25.4.
    Surly Open bar-666mm wide. Chromoly steel. 500grams & 25.4.

    Soma bar can be had for around $45. Surly bar around $60. Mary bar around $67 shipped England.

    I've never used, at least that I can remember, a 25.4 stem and bar. What kind of beating would this size hold up to? How easy is it to shim up to a 31.8 stem?
  • 04-04-2012
    Stopbreakindown
    Origin 8 Bullnose



    Bontrager Crivitz

  • 04-04-2012
    mtnbiker72
    The Origin-8 Space OR2 comes in 31.8 and 655mm width, kind of hard to find but here is a source
    NEW ORIGIN SPACE OR2 HANDLEBAR BLACK 31.8 CLAMP (072774339846) | eBay

    Here's what it looked like on my bike when I ran them
  • 04-04-2012
    Stopbreakindown
    Groovy luv handle

  • 04-09-2012
    pimpbot
    Hmmm...
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bsieb View Post
    I will get the loop bar next, not so much for the hand positions but for the headlight, gps, and computer real estate. It's harder to mount a headlight on the J/H bars plus it's behind all the cables, which creates noticeable shadows in the light beam. Alt bars can be a headache for bar mounted accessories. I'm thinking the titanium version because I don't use the crutch of suspension. ;)

    I just mount my dual head nite rider mi-newt led to the horns of my h-bar. The cables are all below the lights, so the only shadows it casts are directly below where it isn't a problem.

    When I ran a magicshine on the bar next to the stem, I would get some shadows, but none in the path where I need to see.

    I would suggest not losing a lot of sleep over that issue.
  • 04-09-2012
    bsieb
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pimpbot View Post
    I just mount my dual head nite rider mi-newt led to the horns of my h-bar. The cables are all below the lights, so the only shadows it casts are directly below where it isn't a problem.

    When I ran a magicshine on the bar next to the stem, I would get some shadows, but none in the path where I need to see.

    I would suggest not losing a lot of sleep over that issue.

    I will try the light on the horn... sure will be nice to be able to sleep again! ;) :thumbsup:
  • 04-09-2012
    Mr Pink57
    Guy I ride with has a steal and ti jones (lucky bastard) and has the aluminum set on his steel rig. He said they're cheap and lighter then the ti version. So if you can afford the aluminum I would say get them.
  • 04-10-2012
    OmaHaq
    If you can snag one, Bontrager Satellite bar off of the old Trek Soho circa 2005-2006 are very similar to the Jones loop bar. Not quite as big. Ebay for $15 usually.
  • 04-13-2012
    Slow Danger
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mtnbiker72 View Post
    The Origin-8 Space OR2 comes in 31.8 and 655mm width, kind of hard to find but here is a source
    NEW ORIGIN SPACE OR2 HANDLEBAR BLACK 31.8 CLAMP (072774339846) | eBay

    Hey mtnbiker72, the ad here says the Space bar has 50 degree forward sweep. I don't know what that means for rear sweep. Earlier you mentioned you expected the Space bar was around 40 degree rearward. Just want to confirm.
  • 04-13-2012
    mtnbiker72
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bluestatevirgin View Post
    Hey mtnbiker72, the ad here says the Space bar has 50 degree forward sweep. I don't know what that means for rear sweep. Earlier you mentioned you expected the Space bar was around 40 degree rearward. Just want to confirm.

    Yes, it's a 50mm forward sweep...so you don't have to run a longer stem


    Origin 8 calls them 40 degree, I never actually measured myself.
    Products Description – ORIGIN-8
  • 04-13-2012
    rockcrusher
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bluestatevirgin View Post
    I rode a bike with the Jones Loop bars on it. Really liked the bars. Are there any bars out there that are close to the Loops in width and sweep? I know about the Ragley, Salsa, Mary, and other alt bars, but they all seem to have around 25 degree sweep. The jones is over 40 degrees. Options?

    I rode mary bars for about 4 years. When I got my Jones I got a set of the Al Loops. I really couldn't tell a difference in hand position except that they allowed me to run my brakes farther from my grips which was my only beef with the mary as I have big hands and they take up a lot of real estate in the grips.
  • 08-24-2012
    Slow Danger
    Just a quick revisit. The Soma Clarance 31.8 bar is the closest to a Jones Loop geo that I can find. It is 670mm wide vs. 667 for the Loop. Has 40 degree sweep vs. 45 for the Jones Loop. Weighs less, but loses the hand positioning and space for mounting electronics. The Soma bar can be had for under $50.
  • 08-26-2012
    I'm suba
    My bar has an interesting story. I wanted one of the original loop bars but Jeff sold them all a few years ago. He only had bars made overseas which he said are better than the originals. I told him I had really hoped for one of the original loop bars. He said the only original bar he has left is on his bike. Now it's on mine :) I really like that loop bar...
  • 08-27-2012
    Zornff
    I just installed the Soma Clarence bars on my Lynskey pro 29 today. 31.8, 670 wide. Installed they are the same width as my niner rdo bars, and though I have not ridden them yet, I like the way they feel. I hope that they help my wrist on longer rides, we'll see.
  • 08-27-2012
    appleSSeed
    bars look great SUBA!
  • 08-27-2012
    Slow Danger
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zornff View Post
    I just installed the Soma Clarence bars on my Lynskey pro 29 today. 31.8, 670 wide. Installed they are the same width as my niner rdo bars, and though I have not ridden them yet, I like the way they feel. I hope that they help my wrist on longer rides, we'll see.

    Hey, can you measure the bar width from bar end to bar end? A pic would be cool too, if not too much trouble. Thanks.
  • 08-30-2012
    WarPigs
    I love Mary bars, but found it too short when I switch my bike to SS, bought a Carnegie, just an inch wider than my Mary.
  • 08-30-2012
    driver bob
    I had Mary's, found them a bit narrow. After shopping around I found these:

    Ti Cycles Double S Handlebar Reviews

    680mm wide, 30 degree sweep, awesome bars, love 'em.
  • 08-31-2012
    Zornff
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bluestatevirgin View Post
    Hey, can you measure the bar width from bar end to bar end? A pic would be cool too, if not too much trouble. Thanks.

    Bars are 26 3/4" wide, center to center of bar @ ends. Pics of mine are in the 29 er Lynskey thread, last page.
    What i am finding after a couple of rides is that even though the bars are the same width, and end up the same distance from center of stem, it now feels like i need a bit of a longer stem. Weird, but the bars are comfy.
  • 09-05-2012
    Zornff
    Talking to Rody about some Ti luv handles, I'm thinking less sweep than the Mary's would be good for me. Eta looks like late November.
  • 09-05-2012
    Slow Danger
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by driver bob View Post
    I had Mary's, found them a bit narrow. After shopping around I found these:

    Ti Cycles Double S Handlebar Reviews

    680mm wide, 30 degree sweep, awesome bars, love 'em.

    In the product description it says there are thin and thick walled bars--thin for commuter and thick for mtb. Do you have the thick? Flexy?
  • 09-05-2012
    fbabrove
    I've only ridden flat bars, and I have a relatively new carbon fiber flat bar (Truvativ carbon fiber Noir), which I love, except I am trying to get into longer distance rides to get in shape, and the narrow flats are so damn uncomfortable. I am going to try out the Mary bars since they are on sale for 20 bucks. I really love the Jones h-bars, but they are currently unavailable.

    I figure the Marys for $20 are good, and for that price I don't mind picking up an H-bar when they become available. Does anyone know when Jones will have H-bars in stock?
  • 09-05-2012
    Zornff
    The Ti Cycles double S bar looks good, as does the Halo. I like the Jones H bar as I would like more hand positions, but less sweep. Rody is too backed up to do some mods I would like on the Luv Handles, and would be late November before they ship. The Halo looks like it would be perfect, but costs $ 240.00 more than the S bar, making it $ 420.00. Ouch ! Buck up or shut up I guess.
  • 09-05-2012
    Slow Danger
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fbabrove View Post
    I've only ridden flat bars, and I have a relatively new carbon fiber flat bar (Truvativ carbon fiber Noir), which I love, except I am trying to get into longer distance rides to get in shape, and the narrow flats are so damn uncomfortable. I am going to try out the Mary bars since they are on sale for 20 bucks. I really love the Jones h-bars, but they are currently unavailable.

    I figure the Marys for $20 are good, and for that price I don't mind picking up an H-bar when they become available. Does anyone know when Jones will have H-bars in stock?

    Jones Loop bars are due in October. I assume the H-bars will come in the same time? On Jeff's blog, there's a link to his facebook page with some updated information.
  • 09-06-2012
    fbabrove
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bluestatevirgin View Post
    Jones Loop bars are due in October. I assume the H-bars will come in the same time? On Jeff's blog, there's a link to his facebook page with some updated information.

    Thanks, I didn't even think of looking at his blog. Do they sell out pretty fast when they become available?
  • 09-06-2012
    Slow Danger
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fbabrove View Post
    Thanks, I didn't even think of looking at his blog. Do they sell out pretty fast when they become available?

    Jeez, I have no idea. I could only speculate. No way to know how many sets of bars he's getting. I've kind of been looking to buy a pair of loop bars for about 6 months now. I've placed wanted ads here, watched ebay and craigslist, and whatnot. I've seen a couple sets on Ebay, but they sell quickly and for the same price as a new pair would cost. So there is a demand out there as Jeff's been out for some time. If you really want a set, you can go to Jeff's store, find the bars, and instead of a purchase button there's a button that says "notify me" when they come in.

    If you don't know how long it'll be before you can afford a set, I wouldn't stress too much because I think you can find a set used if you're diligent. If you're interested in the Cut H-bar, Titec makes a version that's easier to find used.
  • 09-06-2012
    fbabrove
    Thanks for all the info. I haven't decided yet between cut bar or the loop. It depends on which is better for running a 1x9 setup.
  • 09-06-2012
    bsieb
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fbabrove View Post
    Thanks for all the info. I haven't decided yet between cut bar or the loop. It depends on which is better for running a 1x9 setup.

    The loop is better for shifters. You can make shifters work on the cut bar but it's not ideal...
  • 09-06-2012
    gtiboy87
    Looking to upgrade my specialized comp 29er bar. It is not very friendly when trying to maneuver around tight technical trail riding. Any suggestions?
  • 09-06-2012
    Zornff
    Just ordered the Ti Cycles S bar. Going to try to fit short bar ends at the bend apex for another hand position. We'll see.
  • 09-07-2012
    Zornff
    The Soma Clarence bars are 40 degree sweep.
  • 09-07-2012
    Fat Bob
    I've been waiting and waiting... I like Jeff a lot, but his production times/output are a bit of a let down given that he's sourcing them overseas. I'm on the fence as I've owned 3 pairs of his original "H" bars and really wanted to try out the loop bars. I think these are what I may go with to save a few bucks and get the basic look/feel I'm after.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Elderberry View Post

    Decided to try the Origin8 Bullnose after experimenting with lotsa different sweep, rise, etc. Felt kinda goofy installing it, but the ride is awesome.

  • 09-07-2012
    buddhak
    I wonder if the Origin8 Bullnose will play nice with the various handlebar bike pack systems out there (Revelate, Bedrock, etc). It looks like a nice alternative to the Alu Loop bars...especially if you consider that price includes the stem.
  • 09-07-2012
    Fat Bob
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by buddhak View Post
    I wonder if the Origin8 Bullnose will play nice with the various handlebar bike pack systems out there (Revelate, Bedrock, etc). It looks like a nice alternative to the Alu Loop bars...especially if you consider that price includes the stem.

    I'd guess you might have to modify a "stock" handlebar harness to work with the BullNose, the price compared to the Jones with a stem would be enough to have a custom harness made. The things that make me raise an eyebrow are the sweep, the Jones has a lot more sweep. My wrists aren't limp so the crazy sweep isn't 100% necessary. Fixed angle, you can adjust the Jones to meet your needs, weight... I have to imagine the steel Bully's are going to be a touch on the heavy side. For ME, I think they'll work well and at the price point I think they will go on the list for sure, was hoping to hear from users who have them as to their experience thus far.
  • 09-07-2012
    buddhak
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Fat Bob View Post
    ... was hoping to hear from users who have them as to their experience thus far.

    Give it a year or two...:madman:
  • 09-07-2012
    fbabrove
    Yea I really want some Jones loops as well, but I'm afraid money will be tight by the time they come around (I was hoping to get some now with some student load money). I picked up the Mary bars for 30 bucks shipped (they are on sale for 19.99 right now). I figure that's not a bad price to experiment with some different style bars.

    Those Origin 8 Bullnose bars look pretty sweet...maybe I shouldn't have rushed ordering the Marys. The Marys will be arriving Thursday, and I'll post about how they feel.
  • 09-13-2012
    fbabrove
    2 Attachment(s)
    Mary
    Mary bars came in today. I put them on to see how they feel, and so far so good. Steering feels different, but much smoother. It feels great compared to flat bars: I'm no longer leaning on my wrists, if you know that feeling I'm talking about. I feel like my riding posture is definitely improved.

    Here are a couple pics, but I need some [new] grips and I will put some longer cables on. I'll post some more pics soon, but for $20.00 (30 shipped) I am happy! They look better than I thought they would.
  • 09-13-2012
    Fat Bob
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by buddhak View Post
    Give it a year or two...:madman:

    No need, found a good deal on some. Should be to me in about a week... stay tuned.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fbabrove View Post
    Mary bars came in today. I put them on to see how they feel, and so far so good. Steering feels different, but much smoother. It feels great compared to flat bars: I'm no longer leaning on my wrists, if you know that feeling I'm talking about. I feel like my riding posture is definitely improved.

    Here are a couple pics, but I need some [new] grips and I will put some longer cables on. I'll post some more pics soon, but for $20.00 (30 shipped) I am happy! They look better than I thought they would.

    I like the color contrast on your frame, post up after a few rides to let us know your thoughts on the sweep
  • 09-15-2012
    fbabrove
    Ok, so I have gone on a few different rides the last couple of days with the Marys, and all I've got are positive things to say so far.

    I threw on some thick foam grips, which are are pretty comfortable on the Marys. For my first ride, I put on some cyclocross tires and rode around the streets and neighborhood. It actually makes riding around fun, because I can kind of relax my posture. It feels like a cruiser!

    I road to the Everglades and did a gravel levy road. I only did 15 miles, but I am not in the best of shape and this road is brutal: at noon in south Florida on an elevated, rough gravel road with not a tree or other source of shade anywhere even close to the levy road (plus my fitness level isn't the best, *yet*). After riding this levy many times with flat bars, I definitely noticed the difference: The Marys put pretty much zero stress on my wrists, and it made the ride more enjoyable. One less thing to notice/think about. The Marys definitely excelled here.

    Next, I put my nobbies back on and went over to Markham Park this morning. Markham has a lot of technical terrain, with some rocks and a fair share of nasty roots. I was pretty skeptical how the Marys would feel, especially when things get twisty. Again, I am kind of shocked at how they performed. Besides the added wrist comfort, the bars presented a sort of paradox for me: they are easier to lift up on to clear obstacles than my flats were, but they are also extremely easy to get on top of during climbs (though short, the climbs feel long for me because I'm not in the best of shape).
    In the twitchy stuff with quick turns, the Marys turned just fine: very spry and quick.

    I am extremely surprised at how they performed. In all honesty, I wasn't expecting much. I suppose my expectations were dropped quite a bit, because I went from expecting to get some Jones for $120 to some Marys for $20.

    I am pretty amazed that for 20 bucks these bars make such a big difference (wish I didn't spend the money on my carbon bars when doing my build). Though its early, it seems like it will be pretty hard for me to go away from sweeps.

    The one thing I am not crazy about is it was a bit difficult to get my rear brake lever and rear trigger (I run 1x9) shifter in a comfortable position, but eventually I got it pretty close and it on took a few minutes of getting used to.

    I'll probably pick up a backup set of Marys while they are on sale. Now comes the question: What do I do when the Jones Loops become available?? They sure do look sweet...
  • 09-17-2012
    WarPigs
    I passed both my Mary bars to my kids. They seemed happy with it.
  • 09-17-2012
    ascarlarkinyar
    1 Attachment(s)
    don't know if this helps or just makes things worst.
  • 09-17-2012
    fbabrove
    Lovin' the white Oury grips!
  • 09-17-2012
    Fat Bob
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fbabrove View Post
    Ok, so I have gone on a few different rides the last couple of days with the Marys, and all I've got are positive things to say so far.

    I threw on some thick foam grips, which are are pretty comfortable on the Marys. For my first ride, I put on some cyclocross tires and rode around the streets and neighborhood. It actually makes riding around fun, because I can kind of relax my posture. It feels like a cruiser!

    I road to the Everglades and did a gravel levy road. I only did 15 miles, but I am not in the best of shape and this road is brutal: at noon in south Florida on an elevated, rough gravel road with not a tree or other source of shade anywhere even close to the levy road (plus my fitness level isn't the best, *yet*). After riding this levy many times with flat bars, I definitely noticed the difference: The Marys put pretty much zero stress on my wrists, and it made the ride more enjoyable. One less thing to notice/think about. The Marys definitely excelled here.

    Next, I put my nobbies back on and went over to Markham Park this morning. Markham has a lot of technical terrain, with some rocks and a fair share of nasty roots. I was pretty skeptical how the Marys would feel, especially when things get twisty. Again, I am kind of shocked at how they performed. Besides the added wrist comfort, the bars presented a sort of paradox for me: they are easier to lift up on to clear obstacles than my flats were, but they are also extremely easy to get on top of during climbs (though short, the climbs feel long for me because I'm not in the best of shape).
    In the twitchy stuff with quick turns, the Marys turned just fine: very spry and quick.

    I am extremely surprised at how they performed. In all honesty, I wasn't expecting much. I suppose my expectations were dropped quite a bit, because I went from expecting to get some Jones for $120 to some Marys for $20.

    I am pretty amazed that for 20 bucks these bars make such a big difference (wish I didn't spend the money on my carbon bars when doing my build). Though its early, it seems like it will be pretty hard for me to go away from sweeps.

    The one thing I am not crazy about is it was a bit difficult to get my rear brake lever and rear trigger (I run 1x9) shifter in a comfortable position, but eventually I got it pretty close and it on took a few minutes of getting used to.

    I'll probably pick up a backup set of Marys while they are on sale. Now comes the question: What do I do when the Jones Loops become available?? They sure do look sweet...

    So, not only do they look sharp on the bike, they are comfortable and helped improve performance at a budget price. Nice! Looks like you can put the $100 you just saved from the Jones bars to use in another area of the bike.