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    I know Bob, crazy right? I was expecting to be putting my carbon fiber bars back on! Now what the hell do I do with those things?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fbabrove View Post
    I know Bob, crazy right? I was expecting to be putting my carbon fiber bars back on! Now what the hell do I do with those things?
    Haha... well, if you were to ask Mrs. FatBob, she'd tell you to sell them.... Me, I say put them in the parts bin just in case you want to try something new... then tell Mrs. FatBob that you sold them to "Steve" who you sell all your stuff to

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    Didja see surlys new bars? Open bars with a crossbar up top

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    Anyone try the Carver My Ti Bars?

    $149...

    Bikeman Carver Bikes MyTi Titanium Handlebar

    I may give them a whirl on my Pugsley...

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    Anwer 20/20 bars

    These are not exactly Jones Loop dimensions but are very nice bars. The Answer 20/20 has 20 degree back sweep, 25.4mm of rise and they are 720mm wide carbon. I have them set up upside down with a straight 80mm stem for a drop on the Fargo at the moment.

    I was running Titec H-bars with a 90mm riser stem set up in drop position. The H-bars are good for long rides that do not require technical stuff. Tight turns with your weight forward on the narrow H-bar can get interesting. The Jones Loop is a bit wider than the Titec but not sure how much. If I end up getting a Jones frame then I want to try the Answers on that and put the Titec's back on the Fargo for the street.

    The Answer 20/20's are excellent for trail riding and are very comfortable to boot. I really like the fact that the bars are so wide. Have gotten used to 740mm bars on my other MTB's. It is possible to stretch out some if you move your hands toward the center of the bar. Still has the sweep there for good hand position and is just forward of the stem.

    Good luck with your search
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    I just got a message from Jones today. The loop bars should be available November 20th and are on pre-order now. I think I will just hang out to my Marys though.

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    There will always be folks who will wait and buy jones bars, I'm glad... it will keep Jeff designing great new things. There are many options out there, and for that I'm even more grateful. I bought the Origin8 Bullnose bars, they are cool, but with the $ I saved I can pick up a set of the new Surly bars mentioned above and still have a couple of beers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestatevirgin View Post
    In the product description it says there are thin and thick walled bars--thin for commuter and thick for mtb. Do you have the thick? Flexy?
    I'm late responding but: Yes, I have the thick wall version, emailed Dave at Ti-Cycles and he said 100% go thick wall for off road.

    Flexy: They flex but aren't flexy. I did notice the movement after coming off the aluminum Mary for maybe 2 weeks but now I don't notice it at all.

    They are super comfortable and I have no complaints about them at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by classrc View Post
    Anyone try the Carver My Ti Bars?

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    Bikeman Carver Bikes MyTi Titanium Handlebar

    I may give them a whirl on my Pugsley...
    I looked at them BUT (without getting overtly political): From my research I believe the Carver bar is made in China. For $30 more I bought a bar that was made in USA.

    I felt a better knowing my $$ were going to support workers in the domestic market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Bob View Post
    I bought the Origin8 Bullnose bars...
    how flexy are they vertically?
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    Quote Originally Posted by driver bob View Post
    For $30 more I bought a bar that was made in USA.
    What bars would that be? Thx!

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    Quote Originally Posted by classrc View Post
    What bars would that be? Thx!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Bob View Post
    There will always be folks who will wait and buy jones bars, I'm glad... it will keep Jeff designing great new things. There are many options out there, and for that I'm even more grateful. I bought the Origin8 Bullnose bars, they are cool, but with the $ I saved I can pick up a set of the new Surly bars mentioned above and still have a couple of beers.
    I'm the op, and I still haven't pulled the trigger on new bars vs. waiting for the Jones Loop to become available. There are many alt bars out there, and that's cool. but I tried a Loop bar once, and I can't get the way it felt out of my head. Width, length, and degree of sweep can complicate issues over buying any alt bar. Further, options like, say, the new surly bar are 25.4, so you need a shim for 31.8, it's steel, and I worry they might flex too much for my needs. Also the sweep is different. So far in my search, I've been tempted by the Surly Open bar, the my Ti bar and the carver bar, and the Mary. There's the Soma Clarance, which is nearly the same width and length of the Jones, but not quite as swept. Real cheap too. It's my #1 alternative so far, but I actually find it uglier than even the Jones Loop. I don't really need the "loop" portion of the bar either. However, the new Jones Loop is coming in 31.8, and a shim is no longer needed as in previous models. So what to do, what to do?

    I think I'm going to follow a philosophy I've tried to follow when buying parts. Spend money on wheels and drivetrain, save money on stems and bars. I think I'm going to order the Soma bars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monogod View Post
    how flexy are they vertically?
    To be honest I've only ridden them on one rocky trail and mostly knocking around. Since they are a stem and bar integrated and triangulated they shouldn't be too flexy in theory ... I've certainly had much more noodly bars in my lifetime.... they are not light, but neither is the bike they are on and neither is the pilot. So far I'm happy with them but this bike will never see the kind of abuse my other bikes see... perhaps I should have prefaced this all in my experiment. This bike is just for fun

    Quote Originally Posted by bluestatevirgin View Post
    I'm the op, and I still haven't pulled the trigger on new bars vs. waiting for the Jones Loop to become available. There are many alt bars out there, and that's cool. but I tried a Loop bar once, and I can't get the way it felt out of my head. Width, length, and degree of sweep can complicate issues over buying any alt bar. Further, options like, say, the new surly bar are 25.4, so you need a shim for 31.8, it's steel, and I worry they might flex too much for my needs. Also the sweep is different. So far in my search, I've been tempted by the Surly Open bar, the my Ti bar and the carver bar, and the Mary. There's the Soma Clarance, which is nearly the same width and length of the Jones, but not quite as swept. Real cheap too. It's my #1 alternative so far, but I actually find it uglier than even the Jones Loop. I don't really need the "loop" portion of the bar either. However, the new Jones Loop is coming in 31.8, and a shim is no longer needed as in previous models. So what to do, what to do?

    I think I'm going to follow a philosophy I've tried to follow when buying parts. Spend money on wheels and drivetrain, save money on stems and bars. I think I'm going to order the Soma bars.
    It was a tough choice for me. I've owned several of the original Jones bars and you're right there is something about the bars that just feels right. That said, my biggest disappointment with the new stuff is that it is being sourced overseas, the cost is out of control, and there are just too many other options out there for me to justify the $ on them today. Maybe if he strikes another deal with Titec or another big name to mass produce them and bring the price down. I don't need Ti.

    Let us know what you decide, I'm curious about the Soma Bar now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Bob View Post
    It was a tough choice for me. I've owned several of the original Jones bars and you're right there is something about the bars that just feels right. That said, my biggest disappointment with the new stuff is that it is being sourced overseas, the cost is out of control, and there are just too many other options out there for me to justify the $ on them today. Maybe if he strikes another deal with Titec or another big name to mass produce them and bring the price down. I don't need Ti.

    Let us know what you decide, I'm curious about the Soma Bar now
    Well, I do respect the buy American approach, and the Jones bar is pretty darned expensive. The other reason I'm tempted to go Jones is that I bought one of his bikes used. I love the bike so much I feel like I should spend some of my money with him. He has an american family after all. And I figure if he designed the bars to go with his bike...decisions, decisions.

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    This will be out soon as another cheaper option:

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    If it hasn't been mentioned yet, FSA Metropolis bars are 40 degrees and less than $50 usually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight View Post
    If it hasn't been mentioned yet, FSA Metropolis bars are 40 degrees and less than $50 usually.
    +1
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    Well, I broke down and pre-ordered the latest Jones Loop. Now I just have to wait until Nov. 20th for it to ship. Maybe the used market for Loop bars will improve now that Jones is coming out with a new run of bars. Thanks for all the replies folks.

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    Hey bluestatevirgin, wondering if you have an update? I just picked up a Jones Loop bar for a gravel grinder project but threw them on my single speed just to see how they felt. Maiden voyage was real nice, but time will tell if they will stay. I was also considering the Soma Clarence bar, as I won't be using the forward loop and it might be nice to save 1/3 lb up front.

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    Not sure if posted. My Origin8 Pro-Torq Space Off Road bars. Love them. Cheap for $40 shipped on Amazon too.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BmoreKen View Post
    Hey bluestatevirgin, wondering if you have an update? I just picked up a Jones Loop bar for a gravel grinder project but threw them on my single speed just to see how they felt. Maiden voyage was real nice, but time will tell if they will stay. I was also considering the Soma Clarence bar, as I won't be using the forward loop and it might be nice to save 1/3 lb up front.
    Well, I have a number of rides on the Jones bars now, even with the rough winter weather. I came off a very wide set of salsa Whammy bars, and the Loop bar is narrower. Remember, I am on a Jones bike, so the bars are designed to work as a system with the bike. Here's my direct comparison to the Whammy's:
    1. I lost some precision on the steering control because the Whammy bars are wider. I noticed the sensation for the first couple rides then adapted so I don't notice the difference much anymore.
    2. The sweep on the Loop is better for climbing standing up. Puts your hands near your sides so you feel like your pumping on the bars. I like this advantage a lot.
    3. The Loop is more comfortable for me, especially while descending. The sweep allows you to get further back on the bike with more bend in your arms. However, on sharp turns while descending--or at other high speeds--is where I miss the wide Whammy bars most. Again, I'm adapting.

    I'm happy. The Loop is a great bar. If I were reading this thread now, based on my needs, I'd go with the Soma Clarance bar--or some other cheap alternative--because I don't particularly need, or use, the forward area on the Loop bar. If you want to mount lights, cameras, electronics, or like multiple hand positions, then go with the Jones. I think for gravel grinders and bike packers the Jones bar would be awesome.

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    Thanks for the review. There aren't too many reviews of the Clarence bar out there, but I think I'm going to pick one up anyway. I liked the width of the Loop, similar to the Easton riser I had on there before, but I'm not sure about the forward loop for use on my SS (though I wonder if the forward loop aids in stiffness, esp. for the ti version). It just seems like a lot of extra mass on the front of my bike. For for a gravel grinder, the alternative hand positions will be nice.

    Looks like these are the options in the similar sweep range (miss any?):

    (width, sweep, rise, weight, cost) all 31.8 clamp

    Jones H-Bar: 590mm, 45deg, 13mm, 430g (400g Ti), $120 ($380)
    Jones Loop H-Bar: 667mm, 45deg, 13mm, 502g (485g Ti), $120 ($380)
    Soma Clarence: 660mm, 40deg, 37mm, 350g, $60
    On-One Mary: 645mm, 40-ish?, 37mm, 289g, $40

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmoreKen View Post
    Looks like these are the options in the similar sweep range (miss any?):

    (width, sweep, rise, weight, cost) all 31.8 clamp

    Jones H-Bar: 590mm, 45deg, 13mm, 430g (400g Ti), $120 ($380)
    Jones Loop H-Bar: 667mm, 45deg, 13mm, 502g (485g Ti), $120 ($380)
    Soma Clarence: 660mm, 40deg, 37mm, 350g, $60
    On-One Mary: 645mm, 40-ish?, 37mm, 289g, $40
    The clarence bar is an exact copy of the mary bar. The clarence bar is not as wide as advertised. I've run both and there is no difference, except the finish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jl View Post
    The clarence bar is an exact copy of the mary bar. The clarence bar is not as wide as advertised. I've run both and there is no difference, except the finish.
    Interesting. Soma's website says it has two versions of the Clarance bar. One is 25.4 and another is 31.8. The 25.4 is listed as 660mm. The 31.8 is listed at 670mm. Which one did you use? Anybody with the 31.8 Clarance want to chime in here? This would mean that Soma is adding 30-40mmish to their advertising.

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    good idea. Good points on Loop bar's additional value.thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluestatevirgin View Post
    which one did you use?
    25.4
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    The Answer 2020s are the ugliest of the bunch. Seriously. Performance wise, they may work well - but then you can consider the more economical Origin 8 space bar II's which are carbon and have a listed weight that is attractive. Ragley Carnegie's if you can find them (discontinued). Any mention of the FSA Metropolis? They are available, in aluminum, 31.8, and look stunning in the silver variety especially when combined with a silver Thomson. Naked of BC Canada mentioned FSA copied his design on the famous NAHBS show winner people's choice - the $10K bike Lance bought for his Texas shop, and then replicated with 10 more a year later.
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    "A super wide cousin of the Sparrow designed for offroad use. Inspired by the sweep angle of the Jeff Jones H-Bar. The Clarence makes it easy to throw the bike around in technical situations. Plus the grip position feels really natural. The 31.8mm version is slightly wider than the 25.4mm."

    - 6061-T6 aluminum
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    Here's the 'new' model Jones Bar with 31.8 clamp size and butted tubing. For me the closed loop is the thing. Few if any of the alternative options have this feature. For long rides with road sections it allows a stretched out position that is also more aero. Comfort wise I find it important to be able to vary my hand positions to the degree the Jones bar allow. The loop also is also the ultimate geek-harbor, while all sorts of accessories can be berthed.

    I've always found Ergon grips to improve hand comfort, but on this breed of back swept bars they really shine.



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    Try Black Sheep Bikes for a custom bar with any sweep, rise, length etc. This is the 3rd pair James has made for me. Love the integrated bar / stem. Plenty stiff where you want it and just a little flex to work with the Faith fork. These are 27.5" wide.

    I also have an original Jones J Bar sitting on my bench. It's nice, but doesn't get any use.
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    Loop bar vs. Soma Clarence 31.8, which btw is about the same width as the loop and has just about the same length in the grip-shifter-brake area. The Clarence feels very solid, not lightweight but a heavy alloy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jan_nikolajsen View Post
    Here's the 'new' model Jones Bar with 31.8 clamp size and butted tubing. For me the closed loop is the thing. Few if any of the alternative options have this feature. For long rides with road sections it allows a stretched out position that is also more aero. Comfort wise I find it important to be able to vary my hand positions to the degree the Jones bar allow. The loop also is also the ultimate geek-harbor, while all sorts of accessories can be berthed.

    I've always found Ergon grips to improve hand comfort, but on this breed of back swept bars they really shine.
    100% agree with ^^

    Was able to borrow a new set of Jones Loop bars to compare to my Titec H-bars. They are the same width as the Loop bars but would require at least 10 to 20mm more stem length to get the bars in the same position. (see picture)

    Also including a picture of the Jones Loop with the Answer 20/20 bars.

    After getting some time on the Answer 20/20 and my rigid 09 Salsa Fargo, I have gone back to the H-bars. I really like the width of the 20/20, but the advantages of the H-bars out weigh that on this particular bike. For me, the 20/20 would work best on a xc/trail bike with front or full suspension.

    If Jones produced a wider set of Loop bars that allowed for a shorter stem length...that could be the perfect rigid/gravel bike bar.
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    Pictures Loop & Titec H bar, Loop & 20/20

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    Watson Cycles Revelation and Parkarino are two other wide Ti bars 680mm and 720mm with 32* and 31* sweeps. Made in the US.

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    Looking to get a J-H bar myself, since the additional real-estate for mounting stuff would be a huge improvement over the standard bars.

    The one thing that I don't like personally is the sweep of the bars, wish he had a model with straight bars instead.

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    The Crivitz is 690mm/270gramms and cheap on the E-bay.
    I can usually get them for close to dealer cost because people take them off Trek Sawyers.
    It is a nice wide and relatively light bar, wish it had a bit of rise.
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    I was just surfing around and saw that Soma has a new bar called the Eagle that is similar to the Jones bar, they actually state that in the description.

    Soma Eagle Bar

    Anybody rolling the Nitto Bosco bars? Yes, they are EN Mtn certified per Rivendell's website (Soma sells the CrMo version for threadless stems designed by Rivendell from Nitto, Riv has them only in Al for the threadless stem).

    Nitto B353 Bosco Bars (CrMo)

    I use Surly Open bars on two of my bikes. My hands tend to try and rotate to less sweep though, that happens even on straight bar as well So, I was thinking if I went full sweep like the Bosco's that it might satiate my hands and arms from wanting to rotate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turtle01 View Post
    I was just surfing around and saw that Soma has a new bar called the Eagle that is similar to the Jones bar, they actually state that in the description.

    Soma Eagle Bar

    ...
    By 'more angled back' do you think they mean more than 45* of sweep, or less than 45* of sweep? I like the idea of 10* rise, when you turn them upside down. Nice find.

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    I'm going to have to say a little more sweep, say 50 deg or so. They kind of look similar to Surly Open bars that I think are at 53 deg of sweep. Not sure why some manufactures just don't state all the dimensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by illnacord View Post
    ... - but then you can consider the more economical Origin 8 space bar II's which are carbon and have a listed weight that is attractive...
    Can't wait for these to actually materialize...
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    Sorry to revive an old thread. I have ridden the On One Mary bars on my SS and find that in rooty/ rocky/ technical descents, my hands want to slip forward on the bars- it's just a little too much sweep, plus, they're kinda narrow. I've also ridden Salsa Pro Moto Carbon bars with 17* of sweep and liked them, but with no forward offset, I had to run a stem that was nearly 20mm longer than normal. I think I'm going to try the Salsa Bend 2's at 23* and see how they treat me on the downhills. I really liked the Mary for everything else- climbing, steering, etc- but the feeling of my hands slipping forward on tech descents was just too much. I really like the Answer 20/20's because I think that would be a good width and sweep option, and I like Carbon bars, but the rise seems silly to me and I wish they came in a flat option.

    Any other options in the 20* area + 680 or so of width that people think I should consider? Seems most of the Origin8 stuff is 660 width (otherwise, I'd try the bullnose).
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    I made a list here:

    http://forums.mtbr.com/general-discu...ad-848299.html

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    Awesome breakdown. Thanks. The Crivitz appear to be about the same price as the Bend 2's- can't find either of them used right now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TooSteep View Post
    I made a list here:

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    On-One Fleegle Pro or Bontrager Crivitz?
    The Origin8 UL8 carbon Space bar is another option at 685mm.
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    great list. the jones bar oem on new ecr and ogre is wider at 710mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jan_nikolajsen View Post
    great list. the jones bar oem on new ecr and ogre is wider at 710mm.
    Not just wider, but also longer on the extensions. I run mine with the controls up at the cross bar, Thumbies above it and brakes flush against, below the bar.

    This gives at least two full hand positions on the extensions. The primary is up at the cross bar and where I set the stem length for, with the longer extensions grip in close to be upright and taking it easy or make it easy to grab when putting weight over the back.

    To run them like this, the ESI grips are the win to allow you to move around. I run the extra chunky and really like the setup.

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    There is a new Jones H-Bar in town

    There is a new Jones H-Bar in town, the Jones Bend H-Bar 660.
    15mm wider than the On-One Mary with the standard Jones 45 degree sweep and 1/2" rise instead of the Mary's 1".

    Price is $85

    Jones YouTube video of the evolution of his H-Bar

    Last edited by zink; 11-19-2013 at 10:26 PM.

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    The video kind of makes me wish I had the front hooks of the Cut H-Bar but as Jeff points out the Mary design makes fitting brakes and shifters easier while giving the same rear hand positions.

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    [QUOTE=Slow Danger;9163908]I rode a bike with the Jones Loop bars on it. Really liked the bars. Are there any bars out there that are close to the Loops in width and sweep? I know about the Ragley, Salsa, Mary, and other alt bars, but they all seem to have around 25 degree sweep. The jones is over 40 degrees. Options?[/QUOTE
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