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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Rager View Post
    On my Carbon fan rims, I couldn't see the angle until I put a close fitting drill into the nipple hole itself, then it was obvious. The clearance holes in the rim bed were all in line and did not reflect the angled nipple holes.
    At least they were inline. Nextie used to do offset rim's with spokes offset and then the holes on the other side centerline. Took quite a bit of explaining for them to change it.
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    The Carbon Fan rims I got were also offset. The holes in the rim bed were appropriately offset too, just not staggered to reflect the nipple hole angles, as they would be if drilled in a single operation with the nipple holes, which, I believe, is the typical method. I figured they drilled the rim bed holes first and then followed up doing the angled nipple hole and seats.
    Do the math.

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    For those looking for a bargain, BTLOS has a 15% off coupon (IND15)for the next couple of days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wayold View Post
    For those looking for a bargain, BTLOS has a 15% off coupon (IND15)for the next couple of days.
    Total cost with that coupon works out the same as Yishun, EIE, and a number of other makes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexdi View Post
    Total cost with that coupon works out the same as Yishun, EIE, and a number of other makes.
    You're looking at the premium series which has a 3.5 year warranty vs 1 year for EIE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by givemefive View Post
    You're looking at the premium series which has a 3.5 year warranty vs 1 year for EIE.
    The BTLOS rims are great. I've been absolutely flogging my 36mm Premium rims, jumps, large drops, rocks and roots, and they haven't wavered. I've also laced a set for a guy who rides fast/hard on a small travel bike, and is 270lbs with gear. He has so far managed to absoluely destroy a dt350 rear hub, but the wheels were still perfectly true. Relaxed the wheel for him, good to go. He has had them since February.

    Lily at BTLOS is pretty great to deal with, they provide excellent support. Which is why I use them when people want more affordable carbon wheel builds.
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    Can someone explain how they make a smooth bed rim? When a nipple cracks how do I replace it. I used to almost always get heavy Mavic 819, 821, 823 etc because I loved the smooth bed and they were bombproof. I still had nipples crack eventually and they were easy to replace. I suppose someone could slide nipple into valve stem hole and use a vacuum. Seems a big pain though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sxotty View Post
    Can someone explain how they make a smooth bed rim? When a nipple cracks how do I replace it. I used to almost always get heavy Mavic 819, 821, 823 etc because I loved the smooth bed and they were bombproof. I still had nipples crack eventually and they were easy to replace. I suppose someone could slide nipple into valve stem hole and use a vacuum. Seems a big pain though.
    Screw a cut spoke end into zee nipple use a magnet to fish it thru. One can also use string to make it go faster. There are spoke end products with bigger ends, better for magnet use as well.

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    ^that.
    It take some extra time to lace a wheel, but once you get the hang of it, you will be doing it while seeing TV or talking to your friends with no problem.
    I use a magnet and a small screw.

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    The fun with spoke hole angle really starts when you are building a rear wheel and you want your drive side elbow out spokes to be trailing, your hub logo to line up with the valve core, and the valve core between parallel spokes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by givemefive View Post
    You're looking at the premium series which has a 3.5 year warranty vs 1 year for EIE.
    I just want to give cred to EIE. I have i34 AM wheels. They are super heavy duty. I broke a rim and got a crash replacement even though the damage was not any manufacturing error just a very unfortunate accident. If I ordered today I would easily have picked a superlight i30.5 rim with lighter spokes and hubs, but I was a bit concerned they would not be strong enough.

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    I won't do business with nextie anymore. Have purchased several rims from them no problem. One set developed cracks at the rim holes in several places on both rims. ~100 Kgf tension (i have pics). Contacted them - they said ok. Ordered replacements - need for a trip. A few days later the person that said ok to the replacement was out of the picture (Sophie). Replaced by someone calling themself (Brian). He paypal'd a refund of $85 for rims that were about $275 or so. Shady. never responded again

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    Quote Originally Posted by OregonXC View Post
    I won't do business with nextie anymore. Have purchased several rims from them no problem. One set developed cracks at the rim holes in several places on both rims. ~100 Kgf tension (i have pics). Contacted them - they said ok. Ordered replacements - need for a trip. A few days later the person that said ok to the replacement was out of the picture (Sophie). Replaced by someone calling themself (Brian). He paypal'd a refund of $85 for rims that were about $275 or so. Shady. never responded again
    I didn't get a good vibe from Nextie.

    BTLOS has been by far the best of the lot for me, and I have tried a bunch. Amazing service, and quality as good as anything with a big brand name.

    I've started building with nipple washers also, after some discussion with one very experienced builder after some nipple bed/spoke hole deformation at 110kgf on some very expensive brand name carbon rims. Carbon rims are the weakest at the spoke hole, and it makes sense eotnme to use a washer. Might be worth considering on your next set?
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    I want to spotlight a couple of new rims from EIE:

    https://www.eiecarbon.com/A29C23D19S...ompatible.html

    23.5 / 30.5 / 300g

    https://www.eiecarbon.com/A29C25D25S...ompatible.html

    25.5 / 33.5 / 340g

    https://www.eiecarbon.com/A29C30D28S...ompatible.html

    30.5 / 38.5 / 360g

    I *really* like this rim profile. Thick, blunted bead walls for better impact and pinch-flat resistance, asymmetric, and relatively low-profile to keep the weight down. It's similar (and IMO, superior) to Enve's new design. I've linked the ultralight layups, though they've also got a standard XC layup that's 20g heavier and $40 less per rim.

    I'm tempted to build a new wheelset just to give them a go, it's been all grins for over a thousand miles on my existing set.

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    30.5 is not wide enough inner for 2.35 or 2.6 29 tires I ride from Bontrager. I would need 35 and 40 inner.
    But I like the profile and weight.

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    For 165 to 205 a rim, I'd give eie a try. They aren't trying to charge me $15 more per rim to have no decal like Carbonfan, which is nice.

    So far I've built up 3 wheelsets on the Nextie sale rims for $250 a set and haven't had any problems. How far can I go rolling the dice like this? It's fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eb1888 View Post
    30.5 is not wide enough inner for 2.35 or 2.6 29 tires I ride from Bontrager. I would need 35 and 40 inner.
    But I like the profile and weight.
    I think 30.5 is enough for 2.35. Ideal, even, IME. But check back later if you disagree; the 30.5 wasn't listed a month ago, they may well have a wider version of same in the pipeline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexdi View Post
    I think 30.5 is enough for 2.35. Ideal, even, IME. But check back later if you disagree; the 30.5 wasn't listed a month ago, they may well have a wider version of same in the pipeline.
    I would run my 2.6 on i30.5. I think it is perfect. Both Enve and Maxxis recommend i30-35 for 2.5 WT and 2.6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H-akka View Post
    I would run my 2.6 on i30.5. I think it is perfect. Both Enve and Maxxis recommend i30-35 for 2.5 WT and 2.6.
    Bontrager's 2.35 is a special case. It's an oversized Goma-class tire closer to 2.5". There's an argument for running that one up to i35, though it's hardly underperforming at i30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexdi View Post
    Bontrager's 2.35 is a special case. It's an oversized Goma-class tire closer to 2.5". There's an argument for running that one up to i35, though it's hardly underperforming at i30.
    Ok, I didn't know about that one. I run 2.5 DHF and 2.6 Rekon on i34. I think they work just fine with anything 29-35. I have tried both on my alu i29 and it no problem, tho i30.5 is probably better.

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    I have been using a wheelset I bought from EIE and have nothing but positive things to say so far.
    Rims:A29C30D28 AM,UD,Matte,32H,NO decals 2PCS
    HubsT Swiss 350S BOOST(Front:15*110mm,Rear:12*148mm) ,SRAM XX1,6-bolt
    Spokes:black,DT Swiss Competition
    Nipple:Black Brass

    That was what I ordered, they arrived safely boxed up in a few weeks. I taped them up and have a DHF EXO 2.5 front and a Chunky Monkey 2.4 on the rear with cushcore. Tyres went on easy enough (even with the cushcore), inflated first time and I've been running about 20psi front and rear with zero issues. I put them straight onto my new bike and have never run carbon wheels before. This bike is also coil front and rear and is pretty incredible anyway so until I go back to the oem alloy DT Swiss wheels I guess I can't really comment on how good or bad the wheels are in use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexdi View Post
    Bontrager's 2.35 is a special case. It's an oversized Goma-class tire closer to 2.5". There's an argument for running that one up to i35, though it's hardly underperforming at i30.
    Bontragers are designed for wide rims by Frank Stacy Testing. They'll give the best performance on wider rims at low psi, but you can run them on skinnier rims by adding some pressure and giving up some of the bigger footprint you would get. If you're building a new wheelset of course go for the size that gives you the most performance. The XRs have flexible sidewalls and light weight. So not for high speed runs through sidewall cutting shale. But a good tire on the right terrain.

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    I'm running XR4 2.4 and XR3 2.3 on 27mm inner and it's just fine.

    Also ran them 29mm inner, also fine.
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    Hi

    Is there someone who have some experience with the XC rim (XM930) from Carbonal ?? I think both in terms of the rim itself and the service when ordering.

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