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    Tire mounted

    Tire when on just like on my old Stan's flow rims...........
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    Looooong time ago 'soft spoking' was believed to give a more compliant ride.

    Not so much...

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    I think I'm canceling my carbon Roval order and building up a set of the 28mm AM rim on some AC hubs. For the price difference it's worth the risk.
    Any pics of the UD finish other than the company pics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee View Post
    Tire when on just like on my old Stan's flow rims...........
    Ok, now how did you you just order the rims 10 hours ago and now have them delivered, built, and tire mounted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwiffle View Post
    Ok, now how did you you just order the rims 10 hours ago and now have them delivered, built, and tire mounted?
    Oops, hit return too quickly.

    Nice to see they played well with the Stan's tape!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwiffle View Post
    Ok, now how did you you just order the rims 10 hours ago and now have them delivered, built, and tire mounted?
    ?

    I ordered additional rims

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    DeeZee: how's the finish/quality hit you? Impressed? Not impressed? How's the confidence level? I already ordered a set so I guess I'll see for myself, just excited to know more about them

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee View Post
    ?

    I ordered additional rims

    Did they cut a shipping break for additional rims?

    We are thinking of getting a couple of pairs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DFYFZX View Post
    DeeZee: how's the finish/quality hit you? Impressed? Not impressed? How's the confidence level? I already ordered a set so I guess I'll see for myself, just excited to know more about them
    Per my buddy the same / better than his Rovals.

    Here is a zoomed in pic
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    Sweet!

    By the way, I messaged Nancy and she said she's going to get my matte/UD rims clear coated in the rim bed

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    Keep the pics and comments coming!!!...very close to pulling the trigger...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee View Post
    ?

    I ordered additional rims
    Sorry. I was trying to be funny. Guess I wasnt
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    Hmmm very tempting

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    Couldn't resist, just ordered a set of wide 32h/matte/ud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwiffle View Post
    Never heard about Stan's hurting carbon. I'll send them an email, see if they can gloss the inside since I ordered matte. Thanks for the heads up
    Ditto. There is absolutely no reason Stan's would hurt carbon. At all. Urban myth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee View Post
    Per my buddy the same / better than his Rovals.

    Here is a zoomed in pic
    DeeZee:

    Are those spokes straight gauge?

    I'll be going to Revo route; just trying to figure out how much these things will weigh with DT 240s 10mm hub, Revolutions, etc.

    Thanks!

    (I'm planning on ~400g rim, 280g+/- for the hub, and 125g for the spokes/nips, 25g or so for tape and valve. 830g total.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Duke View Post
    DeeZee:

    Are those spokes straight gauge?

    I'll be going to Revo route; just trying to figure out how much these things will weigh with DT 240s 10mm hub, Revolutions, etc.

    Thanks!

    (I'm planning on ~400g rim, 280g+/- for the hub, and 125g for the spokes/nips, 25g or so for tape and valve. 830g total.)
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    Why in gods name would you use straight gauge spokes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anomaly View Post
    Why in gods name would you use straight gauge spokes?
    Just checked my invoice and the work order indicates DB spokes

    The shop has some explaining to do........I need to pay closer attention to these things.
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    Greetings from Hong Kong, looking for more info for 29er carbon rims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee View Post
    Just checked my invoice and the work order indicates DB spokes

    The shop has some explaining to do........I need to pay closer attention to these things.
    Not by any chance the same lbs of the previous build with the cracked rim was it?

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    For the guys that have recieved rims in the states, how long did it take for them to arrive once they shipped?

    I don't see any reason why tire sealant would degrade the carbon/epoxy matrix, but I've got a few contacts that are M&P composites experts that will verify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by figo View Post
    Not by any chance the same lbs of the previous build with the cracked rim was it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee View Post
    No another mental giant

    Coincidence or are most bicycle mechanics dopes?
    There must be many good places out there, but I started building my own wheels when I found out a highly recommended local wheelbuilder had used loctite on my wheelset 12 years ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by figo View Post
    There must be many good places out there, but I started building my own wheels when I found out a highly recommended local wheelbuilder had used loctite on my wheelset 12 years ago
    I am almost there.........I do everything else except wheels. Rebuild hubs etc..

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    Can these rims be built with I9 hubs and spokes?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee View Post
    No another mental giant

    Coincidence or are most bicycle mechanics dopes?
    I'm admittedly biased, but some of the smartest people I know I've worked with in the bike industry.
    That being said, since the majority of people I've met are not very smart, so by extension, most bike mechanics are probably not the top of the heap either.
    Back to the topic at hand, I'm almost curious enough about these to order a set and do some "destruction testing" on them under one of our, um, less graceful customers at the shop.

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    Btw, although they don't have anything listed on their website under carbon handlebars (it says site under construction), they apparently do have some available. I emailed about them, and Nancy sent me pics of 4 different models: a riser (about 1.5 - 2 inch), a flat bar, and two styles of stem/bar combos. I asked about the widths of the flat bar, but they don't make them as wide as I was looking for, so I passed on them (they only make the flat bar up to 660mm wide, not sure about the riser or other bars).
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocwandrer View Post
    "Tow" is a noun meaning a bundle of filaments. UD is a noun abbreviation meaning unidirectional. unidirectional fabric is made from tows, which are by definition unidirectionally oriented. The tow size is much less important with unidirectional fabric, but still a mfg parameter.

    I see you edited your reply, but if i understood correctly, the issue is that T800 is a high, not standard modulus product in Toray product nomenclature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sslos View Post
    I'm admittedly biased, but some of the smartest people I know I've worked with in the bike industry.
    That being said, since the majority of people I've met are not very smart, so by extension, most bike mechanics are probably not the top of the heap either.
    Back to the topic at hand, I'm almost curious enough about these to order a set and do some "destruction testing" on them under one of our, um, less graceful customers at the shop.

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    After careful review the spokes are DB

    2.0 x 1.8 DT Swiss

    My mistake was the last DB wheelset I had were Wheel Smith and has a more noticeable step down. These are more gradual.....

    My apologies

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    This is a very interesting thread I think worth following.
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    so where is the best place to order wide rims in 32h?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee View Post
    No another mental giant

    Coincidence or are most bicycle mechanics dopes?
    The ones I have come across are dopes. The thing is, they think they know everything, and seem to have a "holier than thou" attitude. I would love noting more than to support any LBS, if there was one adequate and competent.

    I'm in the same boat, building wheels is the only thing I don't do. I have the tools, have tried a couple times, but not quite there yet.

    Also, thanks for the info and pics of the rims

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    Quote Originally Posted by snowdrifter View Post
    so where is the best place to order wide rims in 32h?
    just go straight to their website light bicycle-carbon frame,carbon rim,carbon wheel,carbon wheelset,carbon mountain bike,carbon road bike When I ordered a week or so ago, they were still working on the website ordering process, but you just send Nancy an email and she'll take care of you.
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    Anyone know the ERD on the XC or AM rims? I tried emailing light-bicycle and never heard back. Also, will these work with I9 spokes?
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    Anybody get complete wheelset?

    Wide cabon hoops, Novatec hubs, and Pillar spokes?

    might be worth a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RFXR View Post
    Anyone know the ERD on the XC or AM rims? I tried emailing light-bicycle and never heard back. Also, will these work with I9 spokes?
    I was told the ERD on the AM version I ordered was 603. Don't know about the XC...

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    Just ordered a pair. 3K, matte, 32 hole. Building them on AC hubs with DT Supercomps. Can't wait!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DFYFZX View Post
    I was told the ERD on the AM version I ordered was 603. Don't know about the XC...
    I was told 602 on am rims, but i imagine either number will work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jwiffle View Post
    I was told 602 on am rims, but i imagine either number will work.
    Confirmed. Just got an email from Nancy this morning.

    ERD AM - 602
    Max spoke tension - 180 kgf

    I also heard back from my M&P contact. There is no reason why tire sealant would degrade the carbon/epoxy of these rims.

    For those who have built up these rims, how much spoke tension did you use?

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    Anyone order rims using their website? The shipping seems too low; like it did not calculate correctly.

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    So has anyone taking the AM rims off 6' to flat yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowdrifter View Post
    So has anyone taking the AM rims off 6' to flat yet?
    That is dumb on any bike.Well, trials aside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by indyfab25 View Post
    That is dumb on any bike.Well, trials aside.
    Ok, sorry.. 12" to a tranny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowdrifter View Post
    Ok, sorry.. 12" to a tranny.
    We have a guy here that has been beating on them. He is a strong rider that rides like a bull. So far, so good.

    Thanks for getting me excited by the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeZee View Post
    Tire when on just like on my old Stan's flow rims...........

    Are these the matte finish?
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowdrifter View Post
    Ok, sorry.. 12" to a tranny.
    I think they're doing this on "RuPaul's Drag Race."
    Sorry, couldn't resist!


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    Picked up a Highball today

    Hello

    Has anyone calculated the frame angles on this company's carbon fiber mtb 29er frame?

    Which namebrand frame is it similar to geometry wise?

    Carbon fiber hardtail 29er frame for $399! Crap, I just picked up a Highball frame today. For what I paid for the Highball frame, I could pick up this company's frame and be close to a XT level comple bike.

    Any thoughts/experiences on this company's carbon fiber frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by misooscar View Post
    Hello

    Has anyone calculated the frame angles on this company's carbon fiber mtb 29er frame?

    Which namebrand frame is it similar to geometry wise?

    Carbon fiber hardtail 29er frame for $399! Crap, I just picked up a Highball frame today. For what I paid for the Highball frame, I could pick up this company's frame and be close to a XT level comple bike.

    Any thoughts/experiences on this company's carbon fiber frame?
    Wrong thread dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by mucky View Post
    Wrong thread dude
    Indeed. I will say that I have about 12 hours on one and it is awesome. Highball quality? Probably not.
    I am immune to your disdain.

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