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  1. #6101
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    My Light Bicycle Wheels

    Hi Folks, after about a year of reading and a lot of waffling I finally bought a set of pre-built wheels from LB:
    29er 30mm wide rim, 12k,Glossy, 32holes, Red Hope front standard QR/135mm QR 8/9/10s, black pillar spokes and black pillar nipples.
    The cost was a bit more because I got the Hope Pro2 hubs @ $896 with everything.
    I weighted them without skewers and cassette of course and they came out to be just about 1560g for the pair, so that seems pretty good to me. I've already had about two races and 5 rides on them and the verdict is that they are quite stiff compared to my older aluminum wheels. When I try to just crash into bigger rocks to go over them like I used to, it seems to rebound up more. I haven't weighed my bike yet, but I think I dropped maybe 1/2 a pound or so. I'll check. I'll also post some picks here - hope the info helps - sorry but I accidentally deleted the pic of the rear wheel weight.
    I also should note I did not go for the hookless bead just in case it turns out to be a bit of a fad. I usually run 2.2's at about 20psi on the front and 23 on the back when I race and I'm about 168pounds on a 24 pound hard tail.

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    I made a mistake saying 1798g it's 1698g for my set with tape and valves. Hadley and Chris King need to get the weight down under 300g for the rear. My new favorite hub now is Project 321 hubs at 285g for the rear with 3 year warr. The Hopes are pretty light, when you think about it the value above, no wheel set at 900 bucks can be bought from any place that will outperform your set !!

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    Iplay newest 27mm width hookless 29er rims

    Weight: 360+/- 15g/piece

    IP-HR927C 27mm width hookless carbon MTB 29er rims, carbon mtb 29er tubeless rims -Xiamen Iplay Sporting Goods Co.,Ltd.

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    Iplay newest high end DSS series wheels (32/32H), we can use DT swiss 240S hubs to assemble any wheels you want.

    32/32H is the only option for the holes now

    2014 high-end DSS IP-HR930C carbon 29er hookless wheels with DT Swiss 240S hubs for XC/AM use-Xiamen Iplay Sporting Goods Co.,Ltd.

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    Same specs and weight as LB rims.... Hmmmmmmm......

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    I plan to buy LB RM29C06 or RM29C02 Hookless rims.
    Has anyone Niner Air 9 Carbon frame owner tried is there enough space for wider RM29C02 rim and 2.25/2.4 tires?

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    I have the original 29er carbon hooked rims with Racing Ralph 2.35's with no issues and some space on my Air9Carbon so I am confident you will be fine.
    Full rigid SS, Hardtail SS, Hardtail Geared, Full Suspension Geared.

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    (Cheap) Chinese Carbon Rims?

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterQ520 View Post
    Iplay newest high end DSS series wheels (32/32H), we can use DT swiss 240S hubs to assemble any wheels you want.

    32/32H is the only option for the holes now

    2014 high-end DSS IP-HR930C carbon 29er hookless wheels with DT Swiss 240S hubs for XC/AM use-Xiamen Iplay Sporting Goods Co.,Ltd.

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    Has anyone ordered these allready? I'm planning to order those because you get them with DT240 hubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yourdaguy View Post
    I have the original 29er carbon hooked rims with Racing Ralph 2.35's with no issues and some space on my Air9Carbon so I am confident you will be fine.
    Thank you yourdaguy!

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    (Cheap) Chinese Carbon Rims?

    I am a "angry"singlespeeder and I need more hill grip.
    I was thinking to do about 1400g wheelset. So what you think, is it possible to make it to RM29C02/RM29C07 rims or is it better to settle for narrower RM29C06 rims?
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    My daily rims are 1402g using the 27mm hookless, 1420 spokes (32 hole) and AM 130 and 225 hubs. Rim weight was below spec at 357g and 358g. You would need seriously light hubs and/or low spoke count to get near that weight with heavier rims.

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    How much is this wheelset? The profile looks suspect, the rim is only 4mm wide at the rim edge, the Enve are 7-9 mm of carbon, and Light-Bicycle is 5-7mm. 4mm may not be enough material for structure? Anyone care to comment?

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    Has anyone ordered these allready? I'm planning to order those because you get them with DT240 hubs.
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    Wheelset is 860. I was wondering the same thing with that wall thickness?

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    It does not appear to have a bead hook or a high spot on the bead seat to lock the bead to the rim. I would say that it would be easy to push the tire off toward the inside whenever you hit a rock or root. I would worry about that much more than if the rim would be durable.
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    Bead hookless rims are tested and used commonly. Roval has same structure. Im just wondering that wall thickness outside Xc-riding.

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    Enve also are now completely hookless, with 5 year warranties. However, they are 9mm thick wall thickness. My concern is the 1 yr warranty with 4mm thickness. For $860 shipped, it is about $120 more than Light-Bicycle with Novatecs, so I assume that is a good deal to get two DT240s for that price?
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    I am aware of hook less, but they have a high Ridge on the seat to help hold the tire on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dpom View Post
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    How much is this wheelset? The profile looks suspect, the rim is only 4mm wide at the rim edge, the Enve are 7-9 mm of carbon, and Light-Bicycle is 5-7mm. 4mm may not be enough material for structure? Anyone care to comment?
    2mm.

    Enve m70s are 3.5mm. M60s are 3mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92gli View Post
    2mm.

    Enve m70s are 3.5mm. M60s are 3mm.
    You beat me to it.

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    (Cheap) Chinese Carbon Rims?

    I went to LB hookless 30 mm rim afterall. Now I need to find DT 240 or 350 hubs as cheap as possible

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    (Cheap) Chinese Carbon Rims?

    Quote Originally Posted by finbike View Post
    I went to LB hookless 30 mm rim afterall. Now I need to find DT 240 or 350 hubs as cheap as possible
    Looking to do the same build, but I can't seem to find a good deal on the 240. Post back if you find anything.


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    Sanity check please on spoke length. Used dtswiss calc. Building the 35mm lb rims with 350 hubs 15mm t/a 6 bolt and 12/142 6 bolt rear. Measured ERD at 593. 32 x 3 pattern. Calc came up with 287mm lengths with 12mm nipples for the rear. First wheel build, but I've read a bit, but maybe I'm lacing them up wrong? Laced up the drive side with no problem, go to flip it over and can lace a couple spokes, but then have issues after that, can't even thread the spokes into the nipple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTrue View Post
    Laced up the drive side with no problem, go to flip it over and can lace a couple spokes, but then have issues after that, can't even thread the spokes into the nipple.
    What sort of problems are you having? Spoke length issues shouldn't manifest themselves until you're bringing the wheel up to tension. During initial lacing, you're only threading nipples part way, so short (or long) spokes don't cause an issue.

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    I think I was misunderstanding the lacing pattern and had the non-drive side spokes in the wrong holes. Got it dialed now after playing around for a sec. What sort of tension do I want to bring these up to? I have a cheap park tension meter. Have them between 15-18 right now.

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    15-18 is probably good. Depends on the spoke thickness. Your original problem, you were probably one hole off. I know because I have made that same mistake.
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