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    Quote Originally Posted by vokeswaagin View Post
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    Nice. I have a set of wheels that I purchased last year with DT 350 Straight-pull 6-bolt hubs. I have thought about replacing the current rims, DT XR400's, with the 30mm inner diameter carbon rims that you have.

    Have you purchased the 36 tooth ratchet upgrade for your DT350's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by akazan View Post
    S.O.B.,

    Are those rims All Mountain with 35mm outside and 30mm inside?
    No and Yes. I opted for the beefier DH version which came in at just over 460g each per rim. They are the 35mm outer/30mm inner hookless rims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbet View Post
    Just wondering anyone has tried out 35mm wide yoeleo rims???Wide MTB Rims - Quality Carbon 29er 35mm Wide MTB Rims Clincher 23.5mm Yoeleo
    I have a pair of those rims, but I bought them from Nextie.
    I'm happy with them so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by journey View Post
    Have you purchased the 36 tooth ratchet upgrade for your DT350's?
    No, I spaced it.. Ill probably get it ordered up today though. Thanks for the reminder!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vokeswaagin View Post
    No, I spaced it.. Ill probably get it ordered up today though. Thanks for the reminder!
    I'd get the 54t ratchet upgrade from trek (part #436413...you need 2 btw). The engagement improvement is noticeable coming from the 36t. Anyone interested in my 36t kit?

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    Holy cow this thread is long. Has anyone tried using the straight pull Novatec hubs? DS51SB and DS52SB to be exact.

    My girlfriend is hell bent on buying some wheels to replace the Giant P-XCR29er 1's on her Anthem. Looking for a lightweight XC race wheel. I was thinking of trying the LB 29 hookless rim with those hubs and some of the Pillar Aero spokes. Looks like they would weigh in at roughly 1465 gm. I am assuming 360 gm each for the rims, 28 spokes F/R at 4.75 gm each, and 56 nipples at .3 gm each. Any advice on this build?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThrottleAbuse View Post
    Holy cow this thread is long. Has anyone tried using the straight pull Novatec hubs? DS51SB and DS52SB to be exact.

    My girlfriend is hell bent on buying some wheels to replace the Giant P-XCR29er 1's on her Anthem. Looking for a lightweight XC race wheel. I was thinking of trying the LB 29 hookless rim with those hubs and some of the Pillar Aero spokes. Looks like they would weigh in at roughly 1465 gm. I am assuming 360 gm each for the rims, 28 spokes F/R at 4.75 gm each, and 56 nipples at .3 gm each. Any advice on this build?
    Where do you intend to get the straight pull spokes from?

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    On the subject of spokes, anyone know where u can get Pillar X-tra lite ti spokes from?

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    My bad. I thought Pillar had straight pull spokes. I didn't look at their site close enough. Guess I will have to go with the DT Swiss Aerolites.

    Still interested in any info on the straight pull Novatec hubs.

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    (Cheap) Chinese Carbon Rims?

    Quote Originally Posted by cytoe View Post
    I'd get the 54t ratchet upgrade from trek (part #436413...you need 2 btw). The engagement improvement is noticeable coming from the 36t. Anyone interested in my 36t kit?
    Where did you get this new ratchets and $$$?

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrul View Post
    Where did you get this new ratchets and $$$?
    Quote Originally Posted by cytoe View Post
    I'd get the 54t ratchet upgrade from trek (part #436413...you need 2 btw). The engagement improvement is noticeable coming from the 36t. Anyone interested in my 36t kit?
    Wonder where he got? I have a feeling if you called a Trek dealer and gave them the part number, they could give you a price.

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    (Cheap) Chinese Carbon Rims?

    Quote Originally Posted by patrul View Post
    Where did you get this new ratchets and $$$?
    I have read they charge $60 per ratchet, so $120.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cytoe View Post
    I'd get the 54t ratchet upgrade from trek (part #436413...you need 2 btw). The engagement improvement is noticeable coming from the 36t. Anyone interested in my 36t kit?

    Wuh wuh wait a sec... so, you mean to say that our DT Swiss star ratchets that are 16 point stock, the DT upgrade is 36pt (which I have on all my DT hubs... great upgrade, btw!) can be upgraded further to 54 POE?

    That is awesome!!

    So, what can I expect to pay for this upgrayedd? I actually have one hub that is not upgraded to >16POE (yet).

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot View Post
    Wuh wuh wait a sec... so, you mean to say that our DT Swiss star ratchets that are 16 point stock, the DT upgrade is 36pt (which I have on all my DT hubs... great upgrade, btw!) can be upgraded further to 54 POE?

    That is awesome!!

    So, what can I expect to pay for this upgrayedd? I actually have one hub that is not upgraded to >16POE (yet).

    Thanks!
    yup. all good except the price... $128 for 54t upgrade ($60ea x 2 + tax). It's worth it to me though...I wanted faster engagement to minimize pedal clunk in the chunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cytoe View Post
    yup. all good except the price... $128 for 54t upgrade ($60ea x 2 + tax). It's worth it to me though...I wanted faster engagement to minimize pedal clunk in the chunk.
    Dang... and I thought $80 for the DT Swiss 36 pt was pricy... they were $35 for the longest time, then shot up. Maybe if I kill the star ratchets I have I'll do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot View Post
    Wuh wuh wait a sec... so, you mean to say that our DT Swiss star ratchets that are 16 point stock, the DT upgrade is 36pt (which I have on all my DT hubs... great upgrade, btw!) can be upgraded further to 54 POE?

    That is awesome!!

    So, what can I expect to pay for this upgrayedd? I actually have one hub that is not upgraded to >16POE (yet).

    Thanks!
    18 x 1 = 18
    18 x 2 = 36
    18 x 3 = 54


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    Just received my set of LB Hookless 29er rims today. 32H, UD Matte, 27mm wide, XC. 342g/352g on my scale.

    Ordered April 3, shipped April 19, received April 22. Just under 3 weeks all-in. Is this a record?

    Will be built up with DT Revs and King Hubs. Can't wait!

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    Noticed that carbonal rims have a metal wire in the bead. Searching for more feedback, not much found - gimmick, or useful?

    Seems like a nice wide rim, typical chinese direct price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    Noticed that carbonal rims have a metal wire in the bead. Searching for more feedback, not much found - gimmick, or useful?

    Seems like a nice wide rim, typical chinese direct price.
    Carbonal, Nextie, & XMIplay appear to be all the same, just different sellers. I chose Nextie because the communication was excellent and the warranty is 2 years. Not many miles on them yet but so far they are great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    Noticed that carbonal rims have a metal wire in the bead. Searching for more feedback, not much found - gimmick, or useful?

    Seems like a nice wide rim, typical chinese direct price.
    I would say gimmick. Less carbon and a wire isn't going to prevent the carbon from damage if you have a rock strike.

    I'd think hookless would be better considering the layup appears to be stronger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aosty View Post
    18 x 1 = 18
    18 x 2 = 36
    18 x 3 = 54

    ...and all with free bonus diminishing returns included!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot View Post
    ...and all with free bonus diminishing returns included!
    18 = 1/1 beef
    36 = 1/2 beef
    54 = 1/3 beef

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axe View Post
    Noticed that carbonal rims have a metal wire in the bead. Searching for more feedback, not much found - gimmick, or useful?

    Seems like a nice wide rim, typical chinese direct price.
    My guess is the wire is an easy way to build up a hook for the rim profile. TwoTone is probably right and its being spun as a marketing ploy. Might as well point it out as a value added product if you can spin it that way. Then again, I could be totally wrong and it really has some structural benefit.

    I'm going with the hookless variety regardless. I'm liking the added meat in the edge. Looks like a winner considering the rocks in my area.

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    Did you guys see that YaMon has a hookless prototype going with his co. Atomic now? There is a new article on the rims over on BikeRumor. Looks like either the super big-hooked model wasn't working out as planned, or else it might just be that market pressure is really swinging in the hookless direction now, after some initial skepticism, so companies may just be worried about being left out. They apparently still use that layer of "vibration damping" material that was shown in the first design.

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