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    Quote Originally Posted by TedS123 View Post
    I was wrestling with the same question for a long time. I had hoped they would make a rim width between 27 and 35. I eventually decided to go with the 27 mm width since it is closer to what I have and seems better suited for my riding (aggressive XC to trail, some races, no big jumps). Several respected opinions still consider this to be a sweet spot for rim size (Specialized, GrannyGear on Twentynineinches.com, etc.). The 35 mm just seemed to be a bit extreme for me - the largest tire I'll ever run is probably 2.35, and I worry about exposing the sidewalls to the rocks any more than they already are.

    So I just ordered a pair of the 27 mm hookless rims from LB off eBay. They quoted 12 days for fab and 4 - 7 for shipping.

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    Been lurking for a bit, looking for info but I can't find it. Let me ask here, sorry if this is a re-post
    Looking to build a set of the 650b rims onto DT swiss 240s hubs with a 3x lace of Sapim cx-rays. ANy idea of spoke length out there? THanks in advance, I know it's a noob question but I've never built a wheelset before. I'm mechanically inclined and patient so I think I have what it takes. Plus I have some friends who can help

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    Re: (Cheap) Chinese Carbon Rims?

    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    Derbys would have been a good choice for you
    I strongly considered the Derby's, but they are within 1 mm of the internal width of the 35 wide LB rim, plus are over $125 more per rim.

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    I ordered my set of LB on March 7th and according to the tracking info they are here at my post office.
    I should get them today.
    So 19 Days total that's not bad.

    Edit: After posting this above.....

    Got a knock at my front door @ 11:30 am P.S.T.
    It was a box from L.B. China in perfect condition rims were just packed in styrofoam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TedS123 View Post
    I was wrestling with the same question for a long time. I had hoped they would make a rim width between 27 and 35. I eventually decided to go with the 27 mm width since it is closer to what I have and seems better suited for my riding (aggressive XC to trail, some races, no big jumps). Several respected opinions still consider this to be a sweet spot for rim size (Specialized, GrannyGear on Twentynineinches.com, etc.). The 35 mm just seemed to be a bit extreme for me - the largest tire I'll ever run is probably 2.35, and I worry about exposing the sidewalls to the rocks any more than they already are.

    So I just ordered a pair of the 27 mm hookless rims from LB off eBay. They quoted 12 days for fab and 4 - 7 for shipping.
    I echo this whole post. I have tried different rim widths with 2.25's and don't think wider is always better given a specific tire size. I think it is the tire profile, the contact patch gets too wide for either the lug pattern or the way the plies of the tire carcass are laid up. That may be inaccurate but lets just say it just doesn't feel right to me.

    I may go with the 22mm internal rims in the end but wish they made some that were 24 or 25, because then it would be an easy choice. Just sticking with my Flows for now though.

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    How long did it take to get your LB rims once they shipped? Did the tracking info they provided track the shipment all the way to your house? The reason I ask is my rims were shipped on the 19th and it does not look like they have even made it to our shores yet...Just wanted to see what every one else's experience has been...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sevenz View Post
    How long did it take to get your LB rims once they shipped? Did the tracking info they provided track the shipment all the way to your house? The reason I ask is my rims were shipped on the 19th and it does not look like they have even made it to our shores yet...Just wanted to see what every one else's experience has been...

    6 days I'm in California if that makes any difference it looks like your tracking info is stalled mine did that for a couple days then a couple days ago it updated to current time.
    After mine were delivered I checked and it already showed them being delivered.
    Unless yours get kept in Customs for awhile you should have them this week yours shipped a day before mine.
    Did you order rims only or wheel set ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sevenz View Post
    How long did it take to get your LB rims once they shipped? Did the tracking info they provided track the shipment all the way to your house? The reason I ask is my rims were shipped on the 19th and it does not look like they have even made it to our shores yet...Just wanted to see what every one else's experience has been...
    Order my LB rims Feb 28th, they shipped March 20th and arrived in San Francisco on the 25th. They are now on their way to Colorado via USPS priority express

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    Hmmm...I only ordered Rims and I'm in NY...

    Quote Originally Posted by PauLCa916 View Post
    6 days I'm in California if that makes any difference it looks like your tracking info is stalled mine did that for a couple days then a couple days ago it updated to current time.
    After mine were delivered I checked and it already showed them being delivered.
    Unless yours get kept in Customs for awhile you should have them this week yours shipped a day before mine.
    Did you order rims only or wheel set ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cytoe View Post
    Order my LB rims Feb 28th, they shipped March 20th and arrived in San Francisco on the 25th. They are now on their way to Colorado via USPS priority express
    Ya mine got to San Francisco on the 24th and left on the 25th and they were here today but I'm less than 2 hours from SF.
    So ours came over together on the same shipment how funny.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sevenz View Post
    Hmmm...I only ordered Rims and I'm in NY...
    Okay then you should get yours in a couple days yours are most likely on the same shipment as ours..
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    I got my rims yesterday 03-26-2014 and ordered from eBay on 03-13-2014.

    LB Hookless 27mm outer 22mm inner. Weight was 361grams, 361 grams, 347 grams. 32 Hole. Matte UD.

    SUPER FAST. Well packed. Look great. Completely happy currenlty. Hope they build up easily.

    ERD is 594/595 claimed at 592 which adds 1mm to spoke length.

    I'm ordering spokes based on 594 since I'm not sure my method of calculating is that precise. I cut two spokes to 200mm but not sure how many mm they may be off since I cut with some Park cable cutters. Using the Musson method... at least I think that's his name. Dude that does the eBook.

    Anyway, when the spokes get here I'll let you know how it goes.
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    i have 286 all the way

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    (Cheap) Chinese Carbon Rims?

    Quote Originally Posted by manninen View Post

    i have 286 all the way
    That's not what your calculation says.
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    but my spokes are

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    Quote Originally Posted by manninen View Post

    i have 286 all the way
    whats the reasoning you just didnt do 286 and 288?
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    trusted erd592. i think 1.8mm messing nipple will last on my spoke count

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    So, my light-bicycle built wheels came yesterday. Hope hubs, aero spokes. AM wide hookless 29er's. Took them to my local shop and tensioned them. The spoke tensions seem crazy low. Front non-disk side was reading 3-5 on the Park gauge, with most reading 4. Front disk side was reading 9-12, with most around 10. Seemed to be crazy low tension. Rear was similar. Rode around my street a little and already threw the rear out of true. Dropped them off at my wheel builder to double check and possible re-tension both wheels. Can't get recommended tensions from Light Bicycle (other than max of 180Kgf), reading that some have gone with 110-120 Kgf as their build tension. Right now, according to park spoke calc, and tensioner, my low tension is under 50 Kgf. I am a clydes, so I think high tension would be better? Should I redo them closer to 110 on the high side, and about 90 on the low??? Thanks

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    Yes 110 would be good for a clyde on the high side.
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    Clyde here. I rarely go over 110 when I build myself wheels. I shoot for 95-100

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    Quote Originally Posted by appleSSeed View Post
    I got my rims yesterday 03-26-2014 and ordered from eBay on 03-13-2014.

    LB Hookless 27mm outer 22mm inner. Weight was 361grams, 361 grams, 347 grams. 32 Hole. Matte UD.

    SUPER FAST. Well packed. Look great. Completely happy currenlty. Hope they build up easily.

    ERD is 594/595 claimed at 592 which adds 1mm to spoke length.

    I'm ordering spokes based on 594 since I'm not sure my method of calculating is that precise. I cut two spokes to 200mm but not sure how many mm they may be off since I cut with some Park cable cutters. Using the Musson method... at least I think that's his name. Dude that does the eBook.

    Anyway, when the spokes get here I'll let you know how it goes.
    Has the rim design changed? That seems awfully small to me. IIRC, mine were 604mm ERD and I used 290-292 -ish spokes for my hubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimpbot View Post
    Has the rim design changed? That seems awfully small to me. IIRC, mine were 604mm ERD and I used 290-292 -ish spokes for my hubs.
    Were yours the Cross Country ?
    These are the newer hook less style.
    I remember when I first looked at LB rims the Cross Country were 604 ERD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manninen View Post
    trusted erd592. i think 1.8mm messing nipple will last on my spoke count
    they will be close to long enough, and the brass nipples appear to be strong enough to handle a few less threads holding the spoke in (from what i've read anyway).

    any reason you went supercomps over normal comps? for your situation (too-short spokes), the reduced strength of the supercomps (i.e. smaller diameter at the threads) is exactly where you don't need it.

    it might be worthwhile buying some longer nipples. the design of the longer dt-swiss nipples (i am not sure if it is their alloy or brass ones, or both) allow for shorter spokes. ie. vs 12mm nipples, the 14mm take 1mm shorter spokes, the 16mm take 2mm shorter spokes. i could upload the photo from the wheel pro wheelbuilding book (which shows cutaways of the different length dt nipples) which shows this, but i am not gonna rip off the guy that helped me so much with learning to build wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rovershack View Post
    So, my light-bicycle built wheels came yesterday. Hope hubs, aero spokes. AM wide hookless 29er's. Took them to my local shop and tensioned them. The spoke tensions seem crazy low. Front non-disk side was reading 3-5 on the Park gauge, with most reading 4. Front disk side was reading 9-12, with most around 10. Seemed to be crazy low tension. Rear was similar. Rode around my street a little and already threw the rear out of true. Dropped them off at my wheel builder to double check and possible re-tension both wheels. Can't get recommended tensions from Light Bicycle (other than max of 180Kgf), reading that some have gone with 110-120 Kgf as their build tension. Right now, according to park spoke calc, and tensioner, my low tension is under 50 Kgf. I am a clydes, so I think high tension would be better? Should I redo them closer to 110 on the high side, and about 90 on the low??? Thanks
    So, my wheel builder checked them out and felt that the tension that they came with was fine. He also mentioned that they were super stiff. I took them and road a super technical trail here in Denver called Dakota Ridge, super chuck, rocky, 2-3' drops and they handled it all with no complaint. I am happy so far.

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    Also, super fast tubeless set up with NO issues at all. Ran a strip of Gorilla tape, threw in the Stan's valve stems and the seated up just fine. These are the bead hookless 35mm outer width rims.

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    I got mine on order with the undrilled rim bed. We'll see how the build goes, I'm expecting it to take an extra couple hours for sure

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