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    I am sure this has been asked before but i couldn't find the answer in the 182 pages. It appears the erd on the Chinese is often right at 601 or a touch more. I currently own a set flow ex for a 603 erd with little use on them. What are the chances that i can use the spokes on a set of new Chinese rims. What would the optimal nipple to use in this case if it is considered doable.

    Thanks for any help or advise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmybjj View Post
    I am sure this has been asked before but i couldn't find the answer in the 182 pages. It appears the erd on the Chinese is often right at 601 or a touch more. I currently own a set flow ex for a 603 erd with little use on them. What are the chances that i can use the spokes on a set of new Chinese rims. What would the optimal nipple to use in this case if it is considered doable.

    Thanks for any help or advise.
    It really depends on who built your current wheel and if they used the optimal spoke length, which may give you a little wiggle room. For example - when I just built my wheels I wanted to re-use the spokes from both of my old stan's rims. The front wheel was originally built by me and the spokes were not too long for the LB rim - they ended up coming just to the end of the nipples. My old rear wheel was built by the morons at prowheelbuilder - they used 295s for some reason, when they should have been 291-292 (IIRC). I didn't measure them before I started, transferred everything over, and the spokes were poking out of the nips before I even got close to tension.

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    By the way - Installed the Bontrager strips last night. Pretty nice how they fit perfectly in the LB wide rims. Was very pleased with how loud the pops were when I inflated the tires. (there was barely a pop when I used the tape only). Can't wait to try this out, seems like it should be burp proof as advertised.
    Also - shout out to trek for shipping the same day I ordered. Had them in 2 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceBrown View Post
    Servus, poison-bike.

    Rim weights are well known and listed at Light-Bicycle...

    390g: Wider carbon mountain 29er rims clincher(tubeless-compatible) Light-Bicycle

    und...

    370g: cross country bike carbon mountain biking 29er rim clincher Light-Bicycle

    Your choice of hubs and spokes (and nipples) will determine the final wheel weight set that you need. Having personally never seen the LB wheel builds, I would advise to avoid them and build a set using your favorite hubs and spokes rather than buying the pre-made wheelset from LB.

    At your weight of 90kg, the goal of a wheelset having to weigh sub 1550g (you weigh 90 kilos) can be met even if you go with some solid spokes such as DT Swiss Comp with a 32H - be it the narrow or the wide rims - to have a quality and durable wheel set for your weight. Climbing hills at your weight is not going to make much difference if your wheelset weighs 1550g or 1650g. Your choice of spoke and hub will determine which side of the 1550g you land, but one would hope you are seeking a stiff wheelset by going with the carbon. See what the wheelbuilder suggest for the best spoke for your needs.

    That being said a wheelset using wider LB rims that weighs 1550g - 1600g for your weight would be a piece of cake if you've got the Euros to spend and build them up. Using the wide LB rims, my build came out at 1540g with American Classic hubs and durable spokes. I had the hubs on another wheelset, so was only out the cost of the rims and spokes for the build.

    1540g

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    P.S. I'll be in Stuttgart/Schorndorf for 5 months in 2015 if you want to ride.

    1540g 29er wheelset is Sick!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92gli View Post
    By the way - Installed the Bontrager strips last night. Pretty nice how they fit perfectly in the LB wide rims. Was very pleased with how loud the pops were when I inflated the tires. (there was barely a pop when I used the tape only).
    There you go, you're set.

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    So here's what I ended up with of my single speed build.
    Wider light bike rims with matte 3k finish and orange decals.
    Industry Nine Torch hubs in orange with single speed rear
    Sapim Cx-Ray spokes Black & Orange
    Dt Swiss Black and Orange nipples 12mm
    I tried gaffers tape for getto tubeless but failed miserably, so I tried gorilla tape and it beaded right up with Stan's.

    This was my first wheel build ever so it took me about 5 hrs total after watching the dt-Swiss video. The day after building these I raced them in a 24hr solo race and logged just over 200 miles on them and they are still true and can be. I will note that saying these ride stiff is a huge understatement. In the first two miles of my warmup I stopped 4 time to see if I had burped air because the ride was so harsh over a couple bumps or rocks I thought I was bottoming out on the rim. I was even running mountain king 2.4 with 20 psi. After deciding that's just how they ride I got used to it after about 30 miles. Now for some eye candy
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    Deleted. Wrong thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RojoRacing53 View Post
    So here's what I ended up with of my single speed build.
    Wider light bike rims with matte 3k finish and orange decals.
    Industry Nine Torch hubs in orange with single speed rear
    Sapim Cx-Ray spokes Black & Orange
    Dt Swiss Black and Orange nipples 12mm
    I tried gaffers tape for getto tubeless but failed miserably, so I tried gorilla tape and it beaded right up with Stan's.

    This was my first wheel build ever so it took me about 5 hrs total after watching the dt-Swiss video. The day after building these I raced them in a 24hr solo race and logged just over 200 miles on them and they are still true and can be. I will note that saying these ride stiff is a huge understatement. In the first two miles of my warmup I stopped 4 time to see if I had burped air because the ride was so harsh over a couple bumps or rocks I thought I was bottoming out on the rim. I was even running mountain king 2.4 with 20 psi. After deciding that's just how they ride I got used to it after about 30 miles. Now for some eye candy
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    That look's very nice
    I can't wait to get mine done..........
    Doing Chris King's in Red now after looking at your spoke's I might go red and black instead of white.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RojoRacing53 View Post
    So here's what I ended up with of my single speed build.

    +1 for your build. Very nice color scheme

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    I had gold I9's on my Tang Niner but your wheels look much better than what mine did.


    Quote Originally Posted by RojoRacing53 View Post
    So here's what I ended up with of my single speed build.
    Wider light bike rims with matte 3k finish and orange decals.
    Industry Nine Torch hubs in orange with single speed rear
    Sapim Cx-Ray spokes Black & Orange
    Dt Swiss Black and Orange nipples 12mm
    I tried gaffers tape for getto tubeless but failed miserably, so I tried gorilla tape and it beaded right up with Stan's.

    This was my first wheel build ever so it took me about 5 hrs total after watching the dt-Swiss video. The day after building these I raced them in a 24hr solo race and logged just over 200 miles on them and they are still true and can be. I will note that saying these ride stiff is a huge understatement. In the first two miles of my warmup I stopped 4 time to see if I had burped air because the ride was so harsh over a couple bumps or rocks I thought I was bottoming out on the rim. I was even running mountain king 2.4 with 20 psi. After deciding that's just how they ride I got used to it after about 30 miles. Now for some eye candy
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    Quote Originally Posted by muzzanic View Post
    I had gold I9's on my Tang Niner but your wheels look much better than what mine did.
    Do you have a pix of your wheels on a black / yellow bike? I have have a Spec Elite that has yellow highlights, so I thought about going with I9's gold hubs. Thx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by journey View Post
    Do you have a pix of your wheels on a black / yellow bike? I have have a Spec Elite that has yellow highlights, so I thought about going with I9's gold hubs. Thx.
    I will look through my photos, I may have some of them on my wife's black Air9 RDO

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    Muzzanic - thanks.

    Others - I looked on the LB site tonight and saw several questions around wider rims -- I suspect if more people ask about them, there would be a better the chance of seeing the wider 29" rims...

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    (Cheap) Chinese Carbon Rims?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spammer View Post
    Now we have wide carbon mtb rims available.
    Gotta laugh at the >300kgf spoke tension spec. Ever built a wheel?
    Last edited by meltingfeather; 10-26-2013 at 08:12 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by pvd
    Time to stop believing the hype and start doing some science.
    29er Tire Weight Database

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    The rims look dandy. Went to the site, where are the prices?

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    @epiphreddy I think the rims are $155 apiece. I'm gonna wait a while for them to refine the product/process behind it. Besides, I've a pair of Derby's on order :-)

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    Incredible how much spamming is allowed on this site. If you check out how much mtbr charges advertisers.....it would blow your mind. Why advertise legitimately ??? Sux for companies that do.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by agu View Post
    @epiphreddy I think the rims are $155 apiece. I'm gonna wait a while for them to refine the product/process behind it. Besides, I've a pair of Derby's on order :-)
    Derbys are now $300/rim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YaMon View Post
    Incredible how much spamming is allowed on this site. If you check out how much mtbr charges advertisers.....it would blow your mind. Why advertise legitimately ??? Sux for companies that do.....
    That's why I wouldn't buy anything from Peter. He could spend the $2 for an add and just reference, instead he chooses to be an ******* spamming his crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    That's why I wouldn't buy anything from Peter. He could spend the $2 for an add and just reference, instead he chooses to be an ******* spamming his crap.
    Agreed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92gli View Post
    Wonder why LB didn't do wide hookless.

    Those other wide ones look like a great option, like the titanium wire bead reinforcement. of course those come up right after I buy from LB.
    Spoke with Nancy via Live Support last night and she indicated they have no plans for a 30mm 29er hookless rim but they have a 35mm 29er hookless in development now and they should be available in 5 weeks or so.

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    Still burping with the bontrager strips at about 25lbs. The ground control much more than the nobby nic on the front, and less sealant coming out per burp, but they're still doing it.

    I never ever saw sealant squirt out of the bead with stans rims, even at 20psi. (Unless I did something bad that nearly ripped the tire off the rim)

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    Re: (Cheap) Chinese Carbon Rims?

    Quote Originally Posted by wallerbj View Post
    Spoke with Nancy via Live Support last night and she indicated they have no plans for a 30mm 29er hookless rim but they have a 35mm 29er hookless in development now and they should be available in 5 weeks or so.
    Bummer - I was hoping for something in the 30 mm range; 35 mm just seems like too big of a jump. Looks like the 27 mm hookless rims are my best option for now.

    Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92gli View Post
    Still burping with the bontrager strips at about 25lbs. The ground control much more than the nobby nic on the front, and less sealant coming out per burp, but they're still doing it.

    I never ever saw sealant squirt out of the bead with stans rims, even at 20psi. (Unless I did something bad that nearly ripped the tire off the rim)



    Big S tires don't fit particularly well on Bonty strips unfortunately, there are other tires that do exceedingly well if you are willing to make a change.

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