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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    Peter- are you guys ever going to come up with something original, or is coping the best you can do?


    FYI, you list a 26mm OD but your picture shows a 30mm.
    I think it's 26mm at the top where the tire mounts, but 30mm at the widest point. Seems like a pointless design to me, I would rather have the widest section where the tire mounts.

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    This is a stupid design. The wide part of the rims would tend to sustain more damage. But the bead seat is narrow.
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    (Cheap) Chinese Carbon Rims?

    This wss his reply to my inquires;
    "Hi There,

    Thanks for your inquiry!

    Yes, IP-HR925C rims are 29er rims. OD is 25.92mm, ID is 22mm

    That means internal width is 22mm

    The best price for IP-HR925C rims is 165 USD/piece, shipping by EMS for one pair will cost 50 USD, and 4% commission to PayPal will be charged

    Please see the attached geometry and pictures

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    So basically they are an exact copy or same as these ones,

    http://www.light-bicycle.com/bead-ho...ompatible.html

    The only difference is that LB already have a reputation in the MTBR community and appears to be the preferred vendor.

    So I don't see how these guys will ever take a share of the market,
    .....?????

    I did offer them to be the guinea pig to test and promote their product but they where not interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camaleon View Post
    So basically they are an exact copy or same as these ones,

    bead hook-less rims carbon 29er light bike rim tubeless compatible Light-Bicycle

    The only difference is that LB already have a reputation in the MTBR community and appears to be the preferred vendor.

    So I don't see how these guys will ever take a share of the market,
    .....?????

    I did offer them to be the guinea pig to test and promote their product but they where not interested.
    In all fairness they are not the same profile as the LB rims. I think Peter is showing the other rim just for comparison. They might be near the same OD and ID dimension but they are not the same shape. Maybe its a stronger design being more rounded. I guess we will wait and see. I'm not wild about the round shape and I would buy my rims from LB again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeny View Post
    I think it's 26mm at the top where the tire mounts, but 30mm at the widest point. Seems like a pointless design to me, I would rather have the widest section where the tire mounts.
    But wait, I keep reading how there's no difference buying from these Chinese copiers and compaines that actual do R&D and know what the hell their doing. I mean, come on these are the same guys making the Rovals. They have to know how to engineer a rim.

    yes, this is sarcasm.
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    Wtf is with the PayPal fee? It's not like they take any other forms of payment. Build it into your price you freaking halfwits.

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    I thought PayPal is 3%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonggi View Post
    I thought PayPal is 3%?
    Light Bicycle does the same 4%. Paypal's standard fee is $.30 + 2.99%. There's an even lower fee for merchant accounts. LB is rounding it up as high as they can in good conscience to be sure never to lose a penny on paypal fees while scraping in a few extra bucks at the same time. The shipping is what really hurts. $50 for two rims. Makes it really hard to not settle for a pair of WTB i25 ($136 per pair) or Flows, Oozys, Blunts $200 per pair, no tax, no shipping, no paypal fee, no credit card fee.

    lest you think I'm just anti-LB or anti-carbon, I own a set and am considering my second. I like the rims, but the economics is tough to swallow.

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    I know LB does the same. It's just as stupid. Build it into your price like every other merchant on the planet or at least offer some other forms of payment.

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    Re: (Cheap) Chinese Carbon Rims?

    Quote Originally Posted by RTM View Post
    Light Bicycle does the same 4%. Paypal's standard fee is $.30 + 2.99%. There's an even lower fee for merchant accounts. LB is rounding it up as high as they can in good conscience to be sure never to lose a penny on paypal fees while scraping in a few extra bucks at the same time. The shipping is what really hurts. $50 for two rims. Makes it really hard to not settle for a pair of WTB i25 ($136 per pair) or Flows, Oozys, Blunts $200 per pair, no tax, no shipping, no paypal fee, no credit card fee.

    lest you think I'm just anti-LB or anti-carbon, I own a set and am considering my second. I like the rims, but the economics is tough to swallow.
    I'm debating going lb wheels for my road bike. All mountain stumpy(2 sets trail and am) and 33 or wider dh rims for my dh rig. I hope to buy all at once and maybe save on shipping but the doubt in my mind is slowly disappearing since so many people have had great experience

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    Do any of these companies make a hookless rim with UST-like ribbing/ridges to lock the bead in place?

    A la American Classic 101?

    Looking for a 30-35mm rim for my new Santa Cruz Tallboy LTC.
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    Cracked LB Rim

    I bought this wheelset back in January of this year, had a warranty claim back in April due to nipple bulge....

    I noticed some sealant splatters on the rear tire after the last ride, took it home, cleaned the bike up and to my horror.... I found a crack on the rear rim. I don't recall hitting anything harder than the usual stuff....

    Running tubeless with 28psi rear...

    The wheel still holds air, but I'm not riding it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Duke View Post
    Do any of these companies make a hookless rim with UST-like ribbing/ridges to lock the bead in place?

    A la American Classic 101?

    Looking for a 30-35mm rim for my new Santa Cruz Tallboy LTC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moonluv810 View Post
    I bought this wheelset back in January of this year, had a warranty claim back in April due to nipple bulge....

    I noticed some sealant splatters on the rear tire after the last ride, took it home, cleaned the bike up and to my horror.... I found a crack on the rear rim. I don't recall hitting anything harder than the usual stuff....

    Running tubeless with 28psi rear...

    The wheel still holds air, but I'm not riding it....

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    With those vertical marks on the side wall, you've probably just clipped a rock...unfortunate but it happens.

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    I have similar damage on one of my rims, maybe not quite as bad. I put some thin super glue in it, clamped it together and I'm still riding it.

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    28h?

    I am planning to order a wheelset from Light-Bicycle:
    Hookless, 22mm ID with Novatec hubs.

    Would 28H be strong enough for an 85 kg XC rider? No rocks, no drops.
    How much weight will be saved compared to 32 H ?
    Or should I go for 28H in front and 32H in the rear?

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    Actual carbon wheel weight.

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    I thought I'd give you and update on the actual weight of these rims.
    Ordered in August - got the wheels in September, fast-reliable shipping.

    27mm XC version light bicycle 29er wheel set with novatec hub 32H spoke front and back, 3K clear coating with matte. Total actual weight come out to ~1700gm. What do you think ? Has anyone get different number ?

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    So to answer your question, if you are concern about weight by going 28H spoke then ...the different should be significantly small than the weight different between advertise and actual weight of the wheel set. I'd say go for 32H.

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    Anyone know what would be de difference between these two sellers (webpages). They seem to offer the exact same product but one is 20 dollars cheaper and more width options. Anyone purchased from carbonbicycle.cc?

    Wider carbon mountain 29er rims clincher(tubeless-compatible) Light-Bicycle

    wider carbon mountain 29er rims clincher(tubeless-compatible), outer width 30.00/27.40/24.13/35.00mm - carbon rim - Carbon Bicycle, Carbon Frame, Carbon Rims, Carbon Wheels, Carbon Wheelsets, Carbon Mountain Bike, Carbon Road Bike, Carbon Handlebar

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    Finally got my new LB wheelset which took quite a while to sort out and build. 1177g with the hookless 27mm rims. I chuck up photos when I can work out how to do it (dosen't seem to work with the phone). Looking forward to giving em a test run before the next XC race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenDragoon View Post
    Finally got my new LB wheelset which took quite a while to sort out and build. 1177g with the hookless 27mm rims. I chuck up photos when I can work out how to do it (dosen't seem to work with the phone). Looking forward to giving em a test run before the next XC race.
    Could you give us a spec rundown when you post the pics please ?

    This is the lightest 27mm hookless build I have seen.

    Thanks

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    My "69er" wheelset which has 32h CarbonBicycle's 27/33mm 26" front, 30/35mm 29er rear rims, WTB LaserDisc QR hubs and DT-Swiss Revolution 2.0/1.5 spokes with 12mm brass nipples weights very near to calculated 1553 grams.

    Both wheels are awesome, front is good for AM and little heavier than rear. Hookless holds Thunder Burt tires so well that no worries to burp. Tires are way more controllable than with normal rims, just as expected. Very happy owner of this just shy 600 € set.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abelfonseca View Post
    Anyone know what would be de difference between these two sellers (webpages). They seem to offer the exact same product but one is 20 dollars cheaper and more width options. Anyone purchased from carbonbicycle.cc?

    Wider carbon mountain 29er rims clincher(tubeless-compatible) Light-Bicycle

    wider carbon mountain 29er rims clincher(tubeless-compatible), outer width 30.00/27.40/24.13/35.00mm - carbon rim - Carbon Bicycle, Carbon Frame, Carbon Rims, Carbon Wheels, Carbon Wheelsets, Carbon Mountain Bike, Carbon Road Bike, Carbon Handlebar

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    carbon bicycle site seems to be a copy of the LB site which there have been from time to time. for the price difference I would go with LB. LB's website is not as organized as it could be so ask Nancy what width and whether you want hookless or not. I have bought the 27.5 in 35mm width and the 29er in 30mm width. The hookless has been great. I was concerned about tire retention but its been a non issue.

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    OK, first let me throw out my disclaimer before I ask my question--I'm not being lazy, but since I'm currently deployed at sea on a US Navy ship, between our crappy bandwidth and long work days, I honestly don't have time to sift through all 256 pages here, nor conduct a thorough thread search for the answer (Advanced Search function keeps erroring out on me). I do appreciate y'alls bearing with me on this, as I'm sure this topic/question has been addressed elsewhere on these forums, I just don't have the resources or time to find it.

    Anyways, my question: I'm looking at ordering LB rims for my C'dale Flash 2 29er. I'm going to order them now so I can have the wheels built as soon as I return from this endless deployment. My question is, for standard XC and trail riding on my C'dale hard tail, with occasional rooty tech stuff, would y'all recommend the RM29C02 (30mm outer, 23mm inner), the RM29C06 (27 outer, 22 inner), or RM29C07 (35mm outer, 30mm inner)? I do plan on going tubeless with this buildup.

    Thanks in advance!

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    How much do you weigh? I would recommend the 23 internal if you weigh 175 or less and 30 internal if you weigh more. Also, to consider is the 23 internal will turn in faster while the wider rims will be more stable. So depending on your preferences there you might adjust up or down on my weight recommendations. One other consideration is how adverse are you to damage. The wider rims have less tire outside the bead area and are very slightly more prone to a rock strike. Don't get the narrowest size no matter what.
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    yourdaguy, thanks for the response. I weight 175, and given what you mention about rock strikes, I'm leaning towards the 23mm internal rim.
    One question, though--there's only 1mm of difference between the narrow and middle-width rims. How much difference does 1mm make? Interesting that the big guy of the trio is a full 7mm bigger on the inner dimension. 1mm step up from narrow to medium, 7mm step up from medium to wide. Why?
    Thanks again for the advice.

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    The cutoff has to be somewhere. The middle size is actually optimal for a range of sizes and 175 is what I think is about the cutoff where it is better to go bigger. The range of the smallest size is lower but much of it goes into a range that is so light they person would likely be on smaller wheels. Also, the resale is lower. Let's say the optimal range for the 23 internal size is 115 to 180. Let's say the narrower range is 90 to 150. See why I would totally stay away from the narrow ones. The 30 internal are probably best for 160 up. Since the sizes overlap if you are in the middle then other things like turn in and rock strikes and resale enter into the picture. And off of this is my opinion so when meltinfeather comes in and tells you I can't back up what I am saying he is correct, but he generally can't back up his stuff either.
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    Mustanger,

    Thanks for your service to our country.

    There is another rim which you haven't mentioned: a 30mm outer, 24mm inner hookless version which is not shown on the LB website. That is the rim I would recommend to you.

    I'm not sure why LB doesn't list this model on the web -- I suspect that it was originally made for an OEM client and the contract prohibited them from doing so -- but they have been making it for months. Myself and many others on this thread have purchased them, and they are an excellent "middle" option between the lightest (27/22) and the widest (35/30).

    They are 2mm wider than the 27/22, and they have 20% thicker sidewalls (3mm vs 2.5mm) so should prove more resilient to rock strikes, etc.

    The older design for 30mm (the hooked 30/23 model) are inferior to the hookless 30/24 in my opinion. I've owned both. The 30/24 hookless have been easier for tubeless tire mounting.

    To order the 30/24 hookless, just send LB an email and ask them to send you an invoice. Then you can send a paypal payment citing the invoice.

    Good luck with the rest of the deployment, hope it passes quickly.

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    yourdaguy, thanks again, much appreciated!
    InertiaMan, thanks for the kind words, and especially for the heads up on the "unpublished" rims. I think I'm sold on that one. I'll definitely be e-mailing LB soon!

    As for the deployment, it's been a long time at sea (7 months so far), and a couple more months to go, so I've been off the trails for WAY too long now. I've got my road bike set up on a trainer, so between that and other workout routines, I'm staying in shape, but I am having some wicked mtb withdrawals. I'm ordering the rims before I get home so I can get the wheels built as soon as I get back so I can get back in the saddle. (My current front rim is so out of whack that it's not even rideable anymore--had a bad spill a couple of months before deployment.)

    Related--would anyone be able to tell me what spoke length I'd need for building wheels with these LB rims and the stock Cannondale hubs? Yeah, I know I'll get recommendations to get new hubs, but the stock ones are fine for my use (for now), and new hubs just aren't in the budget at the moment.

    Thanks again, fellas, much appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by usn.mustanger View Post
    would anyone be able to tell me what spoke length I'd need for building wheels with these LB rims and the stock Cannondale hubs? Yeah, I know I'll get recommendations to get new hubs, but the stock ones are fine for my use (for now), and new hubs just aren't in the budget at the moment.
    You'll need to get the exact dimensions of the Cannondale hubs before you can determine spoke lengths. Getting dimensions for OEM hubs can sometimes be difficult, since they typically don't post that level of detail for the individual components. So you may need to physically measure them with a caliper.

    EDIT: btw, the flange diameter (measured at spoke hole center) is by far the dominant factor in the calculation. Flange spacing, on the other hand, barely influences the calculation due to the geometric orientation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenDragoon View Post
    Finally got my new LB wheelset which took quite a while to sort out and build. 1177g with the hookless 27mm rims. I chuck up photos when I can work out how to do it (dosen't seem to work with the phone). Looking forward to giving em a test run before the next XC race.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Biker View Post
    Could you give us a spec rundown when you post the pics please ?
    This is the lightest 27mm hookless build I have seen.
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    I'd also like to see the spec. 1177g seems unlikely considering component weights. The math, with the generous assumption that this is a 27.5 wheelset rather than 29 and 28H rather than 32:
    660g rims
    256g spokes (assumes CX-Ray)
    17g nipples (assumes alloy)
    330g hubs (assumes Tune King/Kong)
    1273g Total

    Even spending $400 on Superspokes will only reduce the weight 36g from my total above. Then assume you had LB do lighter rims (- 15g/rim). Still leaves you at 1207g.

    Maybe if you used DT 180 rear hub and left the end caps off when weighing them. Or do 24 spoke wheels, which is arguably a stupid choice.

    My personal opinion is that chasing weight loss past the point of diminishing returns is foolish, but to each his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snipe View Post
    carbon bicycle site seems to be a copy of the LB site which there have been from time to time. for the price difference I would go with LB. LB's website is not as organized as it could be so ask Nancy what width and whether you want hookless or not. I have bought the 27.5 in 35mm width and the 29er in 30mm width. The hookless has been great. I was concerned about tire retention but its been a non issue.
    Which width do you like the best? I have both a 27.5 and a 29er. I would like to upgrade to carbon rims. Nancy is advising to buy the 35mm. I ride with a 140mm travel, 2.4 on the front and 2.2 on the back. I weigh 185 lbs and ride single tract with a lot of climbing and some technical downhill, but I do not jump or do tricks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barch View Post
    Which width do you like the best? I have both a 27.5 and a 29er. I would like to upgrade to carbon rims. Nancy is advising to buy the 35mm. I ride with a 140mm travel, 2.4 on the front and 2.2 on the back. I weigh 185 lbs and ride single tract with a lot of climbing and some technical downhill, but I do not jump or do tricks.
    I like them both but my two bikes are completely different. My 27.5 is a Bronson which I use for all mountain technical riding and I wanted larger volume and lower pressure so the 35mm fit the bill. The 29er is a 100mm travel race oriented Tallboy so I went with 30mm. I might have gotten the 27 but again I thought the extra volume would be worth the extra grams. I think the 35 on the Tallboy would be overkill for what I use it for. 32 spoke f/r, and I weigh 175 all dressed. If weight is no concern then the 35 is a nice rim but its big. Both are hookless and I wouldn't buy the hooked version. The quality of the rims is great, no issues with LB.

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    If youd like youre 2.2 tires to feel like 2.3s then the 35mm rim is the ticket. Basically any tire you mount on them will benefit from increased basically everything. Its kind of eye opening. My aedent 2.25 went from ok ill deal till they wear to pretty good on 35.

    Its just a bit more weight so unless youre truly racing all the time and think those few grams will make a difference then go big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InertiaMan View Post
    Mustanger,

    Thanks for your service to our country.

    There is another rim which you haven't mentioned: a 30mm outer, 24mm inner hookless version which is not shown on the LB website. That is the rim I would recommend to you.

    I'm not sure why LB doesn't list this model on the web -- I suspect that it was originally made for an OEM client and the contract prohibited them from doing so -- but they have been making it for months. Myself and many others on this thread have purchased them, and they are an excellent "middle" option between the lightest (27/22) and the widest (35/30).

    They are 2mm wider than the 27/22, and they have 20% thicker sidewalls (3mm vs 2.5mm) so should prove more resilient to rock strikes, etc.

    The older design for 30mm (the hooked 30/23 model) are inferior to the hookless 30/24 in my opinion. I've owned both. The 30/24 hookless have been easier for tubeless tire mounting.

    To order the 30/24 hookless, just send LB an email and ask them to send you an invoice. Then you can send a paypal payment citing the invoice.

    Good luck with the rest of the deployment, hope it passes quickly.
    I just received an email from Nancy at Light-Bicycle re the above. You are correct. There are two 30 mm OD rims with the #29C02. The hookless has an ID of 24 mm. The hooked has an ID of 23 mm.

    In lieu of this option, I would be interested in your opinion as to which rim would be best for me, the 30/24 or the 35/30. I have both a 29er and a 27.5. They both have 140mm travel and 2.4 on the front and 2.2 on the back. I weigh 190 lbs with pack. I ride in mountainous areas almost entirely on single tract. Much of it is quite narrow and rocky. I do a lot of climbing and descending, some fairly technical. I do not race, jump or do tricks.

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    Re: (Cheap) Chinese Carbon Rims?

    My experience with the Novatec 772 hub that came on my light-bicycles wheel set has not been positive. About 3 months and 1000 miles of use. The ratchet ring exploded. I'm 160 lbs, ride XC, and don't have a history of breaking things. Multiple contact attempts with both Novatec and Light-Bicycle in the last week have been ignored so far.

    Luckily, the spoke lengths match what I needed to rebuild around a Hope hub, so that's what I did. The rims are fine, but the lack of quality in the hub, and the lack of support from Novatec and lb are disappointing.




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    Not trying to rub salt in the wound, but that's what happens when you let price dictate what you buy.

    If you had done a search on Novatec hubs, you'd see you're not the only one.
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    not that i've done any in-depth research, but from the casual reading i've done on novatec hubs it seems that they have some good ones and some bads ones. not true? are they all a bit weak?

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    I didn't expect them to be super high quality. I'd even verified that the spoke lengths would work with Hope prior to ordering just in case something like this happened. I did expect them to last longer than the tire, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InertiaMan View Post
    I'd also like to see the spec. 1177g seems unlikely considering component weights. The math, with the generous assumption that this is a 27.5 wheelset rather than 29 and 28H rather than 32:
    660g rims
    256g spokes (assumes CX-Ray)
    17g nipples (assumes alloy)
    330g hubs (assumes Tune King/Kong)
    1273g Total

    Even spending $400 on Superspokes will only reduce the weight 36g from my total above. Then assume you had LB do lighter rims (- 15g/rim). Still leaves you at 1207g.

    Maybe if you used DT 180 rear hub and left the end caps off when weighing them. Or do 24 spoke wheels, which is arguably a stupid choice.

    My personal opinion is that chasing weight loss past the point of diminishing returns is foolish, but to each his own.
    This wheelset was built purley for XC racing only so weight was the goal. I will u/l some pics when I can get it to work. Build is LB 27mm hookless rims, Extralite Hyper 2 front hub with Hyper Camber rear, Pillar X-tra lite ti spokes (32 f/r) and the matching alloy nips.

    I don't expect them to be the stiffest wheels around but climbing is my current weakness and weight makes a big difference here. As I progress in performance I will look at changing the spokes to something stronger if stiffness becomes an issue or I start breaking them.

    Total bike weight should be 7.8-7.9kg now.

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    Just wanted to note that National Holidays in PRC are Oct. 1 - 7 this year. They're taking deserved time off. I hope they'll be in touch with you soon.

    Also, my correspondence with LB has always been timely. I bought a set of 23mm inner width rims a year ago, and recently one delaminated/cracked; they warrantied it, and let me upgrade to the 30mm inner width hookless rim, paying the $15 difference and shipping. That was their stated policy, and was completely fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Collins View Post
    Just wanted to note that National Holidays in PRC are Oct. 1 - 7 this year. They're taking deserved time off. I hope they'll be in touch with you soon.

    Also, my correspondence with LB has always been timely. I bought a set of 23mm inner width rims a year ago, and recently one delaminated/cracked; they warrantied it, and let me upgrade to the 30mm inner width hookless rim, paying the $15 difference and shipping. That was their stated policy, and was completely fair.
    Which rim do you like the best?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikikuku View Post

    I thought I'd give you and update on the actual weight of these rims.
    Ordered in August - got the wheels in September, fast-reliable shipping.

    27mm XC version light bicycle 29er wheel set with novatec hub 32H spoke front and back, 3K clear coating with matte. Total actual weight come out to ~1700gm. What do you think ? Has anyone get different number ?

    <--here is my complete build, project weight is around 25lbs
    Are those the build the claim has a weight of 1445 they sell here?

    beadless carbon 29er XC light weight mtb tubeless wheelset hand-built 27mm wide Light-Bicycle

    Seems really high compared to the claimed weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sclyde2 View Post
    not that i've done any in-depth research, but from the casual reading i've done on novatec hubs it seems that they have some good ones and some bads ones. not true? are they all a bit weak?
    I have a set of Novatech hubs and will be buying a second. That said it on my son's 24 inch bike and will be for my daughters 24 inch wheel build, no way I'd run them on my bike.
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    Haven't built the i-30mm yet. Though, I really like the stiffness/lightness of the i-23mm, and I like wide rims, so I expect good things. We'll see.

    I was hesitant to add weight to the rim, loosing some of the fast spin-up of the lighter rim, but I'm not sweating it.

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    Anybody have experience with Yishun pre-built wheels? 27.5 hookless 35 wide rims and Novatech hubs. Pillar PSR X-TRA1420 4.3g/pc spokes. 12 x 142 XD driver hub. Less than $700 shipped. Good deal? I know some of the Novatech hubs are suspect, is there a certain model to avoid? Thanks for any opinions....

    I know the link shows 30 wide and hooked... 27.5er XXR650-30 Pro Striaght Pull Carbon MTb Wheels cross country/all mountain for $779.00 in Carbon Pro XXR Series - Wheels - MTB

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    Has anyone had any luck getting Maxxis Ikon's set up tube less on the LB 27 mm exterior bead hook less rim's ?
    I got my Specialized Renegades and Captains to air up with a floor pump with soapy water many time's but after trying a floor pump on the Ikon's I finally went to the gas station and tried their tire pump but it wasn't really that strong.
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    I had a very hard time setting up exo IKON's on the 27mm rims. I had to run 3 layers of tape and tinker with the air compressor to get the tires to set up. I recently switched to the tubeless ready IKON's and they are a much better combo. I'm back to one layer of tape an no issues with set up.

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    Thank's my buddy brought his compressor over and we still couldn't get them aired up.
    I didn't have enough Stan's tape to add another layer so I took the Roval plastic rim strips and put them on and we got them to air up still had to use soapy water thou.
    I blew it because I bought the eXC/3C/EXO max speed folding and not the 3C / EXO/TR didn't realize until my buddy brought it up I payed $57.95 each and could of got the TR for $63.20 each instead.
    I know now when I buy the next set.
    Got to dark so I have to wait till after work in the morning to go get a ride on them.
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    I'm running 29 x 2.35 Ikons exo non-TR front and rear on 27/22 hookless LB rims with one layer of tape. I've always had to use compressed air to seat them (CO2 cartridge), but then they work ok. A couple times after a month or two I've come back the day after riding to find one totally deflated and unseated. I've just added sealant and reseated when this happens, but it is a little bothersome.

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