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    The first wheelset I built before I started using Ti Prep to lube the nipples has significant galvanic corrosion after about 2 years. It was built with spoke prep.

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    I am rebuilding it currently with brass nipples. The spokes were Alpine 3's since it was my "strong" wheelset. My other 2 LB wheelsets have had no issues so far using Ti Prep on the nipple threads and the nipple seat area. I am not claiming that Ti Prep is a complete cure for galvanic corrosion, but it seems to have a beneficial effect so far. Testing will continue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yourdaguy View Post
    The first wheelset I built before I started using Ti Prep to lube the nipples has significant galvanic corrosion after about 2 years. It was built with spoke prep.

    https://www.dropbox.com/sc/78zqlhgm4...XW8hZRYhqyZDla


    I am rebuilding it currently with brass nipples. The spokes were Alpine 3's since it was my "strong" wheelset. My other 2 LB wheelsets have had no issues so far using Ti Prep on the nipple threads and the nipple seat area. I am not claiming that Ti Prep is a complete cure for galvanic corrosion, but it seems to have a beneficial effect so far. Testing will continue.

    Thank you for the update! Out of curiosity, you mention the wheel showing corrosion is about 2yrs old, how long have the Ti-prepped wheels been in service?

    Thx again

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    Also, from your photo, am I correct that you could easily see the corrosion simply by removing the rim tape?

    If so, that bodes well for the weenies amongst us, as you could monitor your alloy nips once a year or so while changing tires. This is as opposed to corrosion that was severe, but limited to the faces of the nip directly contacting the rim, thereby obscuring it from view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudpuppy View Post
    I am running straight guage DT spokes with long brass nipples in a 2 cross setup...loving it so far!
    Aha, so do you ever think it's too stiff? fwiw, this is for an am hard tail (yelling screamy) so it could definitely be too stiff. I'm thinking butted for the rear at least at this point maybe front too.

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    All of my wheels were built in about an 8 month period so the other wheels are slightly "younger" I am using the Bontrager rim strips on all my wheels so I can check them occasionally but generally don't. The way I was alerted to this problem is that my rear wheel broke 2 nipples about a month ago and when I fixed it I noticed the problem, but did not have time to replace all the nipples. I decided that when I broke another nipple, I would rebuild the wheel and if I break any nipples on the front, I will rebuild it next. So I broke the 3rd nipple this week and I rebuilt the wheel last night and this morning using brass nipples. The front has less stress so It will probably be a while before I break the first nipple on it, but when it happens, I will rebuild with brass.
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    I was thinking of buy a set of the narrower Carbonal 29er XC rims in hopes that I might be able to avoid using the weightier Bontrager rim strips and instead use Gorilla Tape. I've done quite a bit of searching but have not been able to find what Carbonal rim owners have had success with so far.

    Have any of you Carbonal rim owners experimented with tape? How well does it work?

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    Hi, have any of you Carbonal XC (the narrower one) 29er rim owners been using Gorilla tape or similar with success? I'm thinking of buying a pair of rims but would like to void using the heavier Bontrager strips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acleese View Post
    Hi, have any of you Carbonal XC (the narrower one) 29er rim owners been using Gorilla tape or similar with success? I'm thinking of buying a pair of rims but would like to void using the heavier Bontrager strips.
    It should work just as well, except you'll have to trim the Gorilla tape narrower to fit. Using the 1" wide GT with the 30mm internal rims, no trimming needed.
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    While we are are on the subject of tubeless, What valve stem works well with these rims?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dugt View Post
    While we are are on the subject of tubeless, What valve stem works well with these rims?
    You would need to use PRESTA VALVE. I just recycle (cut out) from an old 26er tubes that I've punctured. Works very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack0207 View Post
    and man this Hope hub is loud.
    Yeah, it makes it hard for you to sneak up behind someone to draft off of without them noticing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pucked up View Post
    You would need to use PRESTA VALVE. I just recycle (cut out) from an old 26er tubes that I've punctured. Works very well.
    I tried that with my Giant wheels and it was a total failure but that may have been because of the deep center channel in the rims. Gorilla tape was not gorilla enough to prevent leaking. Did you use Gorilla tape?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dugt View Post
    I tried that with my Giant wheels and it was a total failure but that may have been because of the deep center channel in the rims. Gorilla tape was not gorilla enough to prevent leaking. Did you use Gorilla tape?
    Yes, I used gorilla tape. I use this site for reference.

    Tech How-To: Ghetto Tubeless for Mountain Bikes | Singletracks Mountain Bike Blog

    I'm not sure about Giant wheels set, I have a carbon set from LB. I read that a set of Giant wheels (PXC?) can be modified to tubeless, but haven't looked into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pucked up View Post
    Yes, I used gorilla tape. I use this site for reference.

    Tech How-To: Ghetto Tubeless for Mountain Bikes | Singletracks Mountain Bike Blog

    I'm not sure about Giant wheels set, I have a carbon set from LB. I read that a set of Giant wheels (PXC?) can be modified to tubeless, but haven't looked into it.
    Thanks for the info.

    I asked you and am in this forum because I am getting some LB wheels too. In fact, I just heard they shipped today.

    I finally got the Giant P-XC2 wheels sealed up by using the split-tube method. It was very easy that way but it does add weight because you need rim tape and half of a tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dugt View Post
    Thanks for the info.

    I asked you and am in this forum because I am getting some LB wheels too. In fact, I just heard they shipped today.

    I finally got the Giant P-XC2 wheels sealed up by using the split-tube method. It was very easy that way but it does add weight because you need rim tape and half of a tube.
    So next month, when I am done backing up and trying to catch up to speed on this long thread that has evolved quite a bit since the beginning....

    LB= light bicycle = carbon part manufacturer, however most people are doing custom builds with their rims, right?

    Generally a highly regarded manufacturer (as there are tons out there on ebay now), that people have had good experiences with, as well as appropriate warranties with flaws that happened early on?

    I was looking at getting a set of Stans Arch EX, however for the price new, seems like I can get a set of these rims, some fair hubs of my own (or get some used chris kings on ebay), and build up something stiff and light that keeps a solid seal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by milnerpt View Post
    So next month, when I am done backing up and trying to catch up to speed on this long thread that has evolved quite a bit since the beginning....

    LB= light bicycle = carbon part manufacturer, however most people are doing custom builds with their rims, right?

    Generally a highly regarded manufacturer (as there are tons out there on ebay now), that people have had good experiences with, as well as appropriate warranties with flaws that happened early on?

    I was looking at getting a set of Stans Arch EX, however for the price new, seems like I can get a set of these rims, some fair hubs of my own (or get some used chris kings on ebay), and build up something stiff and light that keeps a solid seal?
    There is a set of blue I9's on the classifieds here I think $400
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    Quote Originally Posted by milnerpt View Post
    So next month, when I am done backing up and trying to catch up to speed on this long thread that has evolved quite a bit since the beginning....

    LB= light bicycle = carbon part manufacturer, however most people are doing custom builds with their rims, right?

    Generally a highly regarded manufacturer (as there are tons out there on ebay now), that people have had good experiences with, as well as appropriate warranties with flaws that happened early on?

    I was looking at getting a set of Stans Arch EX, however for the price new, seems like I can get a set of these rims, some fair hubs of my own (or get some used chris kings on ebay), and build up something stiff and light that keeps a solid seal?
    I don't know why you included my post in your post but since you did I will try to answer your questions.

    I don't know if "Most people are doing custom builds with their (LB) rims." I know a lot of people buy their rims and a lot of people buy their complete wheels. I bought their complete wheels. You can get a custom build of their wheels.

    I think they are generally highly regarded. I know of a quality problem with weak rim holes but they seemed to solve this a while ago.

    You could build wheels yourself with LB rims if you know how or learn how and do a good job.

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    Yesterday I was notified that my wheels shipped. XMS tracking says "Despatch from sorting center." How long does it usually take to get from that stage to my house in California or USA?

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    You should get it within a week, give or take a couple of days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pucked up View Post
    You should get it within a week, give or take a couple of days.
    Thanks!

    To whom it may concern. The lead time to ship my wheels was 14 days. I asked LB what finish would ship the fastest and they said they are all the same because they make them to order. I got 3k, matte, 32 hole. Two days after ordering I asked to change to 28 hole/spoke for both wheels but they said it was too late because the hubs had been ordered and the holes were drilled.

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    Just got a hookless 29 with the 22 internal width. 28 hole and it only weighed 340 gm on my scale! Ordered it on the 7th and got it on the 26th so not bad. Looks really nice. I tried to search the thread, but I can't seem to find which rim strip is recommend. I thought I saw something about a bontrager strip fitting perfectly in these. Or am I better off just trying to seal it up with some of the stan's yellow tape?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThrottleAbuse View Post
    Or am I better off just trying to seal it up with some of the stan's yellow tape?
    Yes!
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    I need this for a new rear wheel.

    Where are you all ordering from?

    I don't want to read all 300pages to verify the source. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trail_Blazer View Post
    I need this for a new rear wheel.

    Where are you all ordering from?

    I don't want to read all 300pages to verify the source. :-)
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    Hi all
    Planning on upgrading wheels on my Epic comp carbon 2014. I ride mostly XC-type terrain and very rarely any rock gardens etc. Can I go with new bead hookless 29" 27mm or should I order same wheel on 30 mm? Im 6" 4and weigh around 200 lbs.
    28" or 32" holes? Any recommendations on hubs?

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    I would go 32 hole 30mm outside 24mm inside hookless rims about 400 grams each, give or take 5 grams. Project 321 hubs, Sapim Laser spokes with alloy nips 2 cross lacing.
    Killer wheel set, light, strong, great engagement and long lasting. Great bling factor!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThrottleAbuse View Post
    Just got a hookless 29 with the 22 internal width. 28 hole and it only weighed 340 gm on my scale! Ordered it on the 7th and got it on the 26th so not bad. Looks really nice. I tried to search the thread, but I can't seem to find which rim strip is recommend. I thought I saw something about a bontrager strip fitting perfectly in these. Or am I better off just trying to seal it up with some of the stan's yellow tape?
    Just got my second set. First set for trail (AM version of hookless 29, 32 spokes, DTSWISS 350 hubs). Second set for XC (lighter version of hookless, 28 spokes, DTSWISS 240 hubs).

    First wheelset has been nothing short of spectacular. Both wheelsets built up without issue.

    New wheelset weighs 1440 grams! Lighter than ENVE M60 and 1700 dollars less. Mounted Spesh S Works Purgatory 2.3 on front and 2.1 S Works Ground Controls on back for blown out / super dry conditions here in SoCal. Bike is Pivot Mach 429 Carbon XT/XTR. Bike weight with KSLEV dropper post is 27 lbs. even.

    Anyone hesitating to pull the trigger because of the "China" thing - give me a break. Heck, even my a Pivot carbon frame is made / manufactured in Asia. If you are on the fence, do it!

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    Waiting for my new Frame Pivot Mach 429 in green, should be next week. It should build up at 24.5 with XX1, LB rims, Enve stem bars and seatpost. Enve rims are just way to much money at 1 k each. I wish I went lighter on my hubs "Hadley" like Project 321 or Dt Swiss 240.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Waiting for my new Frame Pivot Mach 429 in green, should be next week. It should build up at 24.5 with XX1, LB rims, Enve stem bars and seatpost. Enve rims are just way to much money at 1 k each. I wish I went lighter on my hubs "Hadley" like Project 321 or Dt Swiss 240.
    "I wish I went lighter on my hubs "Hadley" like Project 321 or Dt Swiss 240"

    I have one set of Hadley hubs and two sets of DT Swiss 240's. If I was to do it all over again it would be Hadley for all three bikes. A few grams is worth it

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    Has anyone ordered from carbonbicycle.cc? Seems like the same stuff/website but a bit cheaper. Any feedback would be great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Waiting for my new Frame Pivot Mach 429 in green, should be next week. It should build up at 24.5 with XX1, LB rims, Enve stem bars and seatpost. Enve rims are just way to much money at 1 k each. I wish I went lighter on my hubs "Hadley" like Project 321 or Dt Swiss 240.
    Nice! Green definitely makes the bike faster ;-)

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    Tubeless tire mounting experiences on various LB rim profiles?

    Can anyone compare/contrast their tire mounting experiences on the various LB rim profiles? I'm specifically interested in differences among the three most common 29er versions:
    35mm hookless rim
    27mm hookless rim
    30mm "wider" hooked rim

    I have lots of experience with various tires on the 30mm external width "wider" 29er rims. I'm hoping others with experience on both those older "wider" rims and the newer hookless rims could offer observations regarding tire mounting on the hookless models.

    The 30mm external model has been OK w.r.t. tire mounting. I've tried it w/ the Bontrager strips and also with tape. Some tires (notably TNT versions of Geax) are impossible to mount, regardless of one's technique or experience. Others mount w/ some difficulty (Michelin). And in my experience none of them have aired up particularly easy.

    Do the hookless profiles represent an improvement in this regard? Anyone mounted Geax TNT on either hookless model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by InertiaMan View Post
    Can anyone compare/contrast their tire mounting experiences on the various LB rim profiles? I'm specifically interested in differences among the three most common 29er versions:
    35mm hookless rim
    27mm hookless rim
    30mm "wider" hooked rim

    I have lots of experience with various tires on the 30mm external width "wider" 29er rims. I'm hoping others with experience on both those older "wider" rims and the newer hookless rims could offer observations regarding tire mounting on the hookless models.

    The 30mm external model has been OK w.r.t. tire mounting. I've tried it w/ the Bontrager strips and also with tape. Some tires (notably TNT versions of Geax) are impossible to mount, regardless of one's technique or experience. Others mount w/ some difficulty (Michelin). And in my experience none of them have aired up particularly easy.

    Do the hookless profiles represent an improvement in this regard? Anyone mounted Geax TNT on either hookless model?
    I just got a new LB wheelset today with 30/35 hookless rims. They were very easy in every way with Maxxis Ikon 2.35's. I used cheap tape and Stans Valves. They blew up fast and easy but I had a 105 psi 3 gal compressor and it makes a big difference.

    Before these wheels I used Giant P-XC2 wheels with the same tires. I couldn't get them to seal with tape and any valve. I finally gave up and tried the split tube technique which was real easy. Later I heard that those Giant rims are easy with Trek Bontrager strips and valves.

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    Info on tracking shipments from LB into the USA. LB ships from China via EMS. Once it gets through USA customs, USPS gets it and, in my case, deliver the next day. EMS's tracking systems stops showing progress once the package goes to customs. However, you can enter the same tracking number in the USPS tracking system and it will track your package through delivery.

    Lastly, my USPS mailman always deliver my mail around 4pm but he delivered the wheels at about 10am. I think he likes to get the bigger packages out of his truck and out of his way early. Since you have to sign for these packages, you might want to be around in the morning to do that.
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    Received my LB hookless 30 mm ID weelset last week.
    Used Stans Yellow tape 21 mm(leftover from a previous wheelset) and American classic valves
    I managed to put a Schwalbe Rocket Ron 2.25 on the rim with my bare hands and it was easy to inflate with a floorpump without removing the valve core and without milk.
    I still have to put in some Stan's however, the next day I have a flat tire.
    I am waiting for a Racing Ralf 2.25 and a Nobby Nick 2.35 but wich hopefully will mount as easily.

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    I've yet to report on the performance of my new 30mm ID wheelset from LB. The performance exceeds my expectations. In fact, I'd say the performance has gone from adequate to perfect. I couldn't imagine being able to notice better performance out of wheels. I was using 2.35 Maxxis Ikon tires on good but heavy 19mm ID rims and they always felt soft when inflated to the low 20's psi. If I inflated more they were bouncy. With the new wider rims I inflate to 17 front and 19 rear and the performance is rock solid in corners. The traction is better and the ride cushion is about the same.

    I was worried that the wider rims might be more vulnerable to rock damage but the tires are still much wider than the rims. The max width of the tires is 61mm and the rims are 35mm wide.

    Climbing up steeper hills I feel a little more resistance. At first I thought it was because of less flex in the wheels but now I believe it is from better traction. When my tires would slip a little it kinda feels like a lower gear. Now that they are slipping less it feels like my lowest gear is higher. I didn't notice them slipping before but I am getting better Strava scores than before.

    Downhill I feel a big improvement. It feels like I have much more precise control and it is easier to make sharper turns with these wheels.

    I haven't noticed any flattening of the profile but my Maxxis Ikon tires have a very round profile. Also, the widest point has gone from 57mm to only 61mm in spite of the increase in ID of 11mm which is more than 50% (19mm to 30mm).

    I've only been mt biking a couple of years so, although I try to be accurate and helpful, take anything I say with a grain of salt.
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    I was thinking of getting the light-bicycle 650b rims and building a light wheelset around them.
    But then i found a rather good deal for a wheelset with Duke rims. The price would be about the same and the duke rims are somewhat lighter. Duke seems to be some small french company, and there has been some good results in competitions with their rims.

    Anyone has any experience with said rims? They are tempting to get, but im kind of concerned about the durability, as i would use them very regularly for training and xc racing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SDMTB'er View Post
    Just got my second set. First set for trail (AM version of hookless 29, 32 spokes, DTSWISS 350 hubs). Second set for XC (lighter version of hookless, 28 spokes, DTSWISS 240 hubs).

    First wheelset has been nothing short of spectacular. Both wheelsets built up without issue.

    New wheelset weighs 1440 grams! Lighter than ENVE M60 and 1700 dollars less. Mounted Spesh S Works Purgatory 2.3 on front and 2.1 S Works Ground Controls on back for blown out / super dry conditions here in SoCal. Bike is Pivot Mach 429 Carbon XT/XTR. Bike weight with KSLEV dropper post is 27 lbs. even.

    Anyone hesitating to pull the trigger because of the "China" thing - give me a break. Heck, even my a Pivot carbon frame is made / manufactured in Asia. If you are on the fence, do it!
    Hey what did your first set weigh; I assume you used the 35mm wide rims?
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    Hey folks, I've used the Chinese carbon rims in 27.5 and Derby's wide rims in 29, and have a set of 27/22mm LBs on order for a lighter, stiffer set on my LES. I'm thinking of order the 30/24mm from the link above to replace the Derby's, trying to shave .30-.50 lbs, but I can't decide on the hubs. I think the Project 123 or I9 are the two I'm trying to choose between. Bling is not a factor. I can't figure out what the difference is though, same price and internals, but the 123 has a 3 year warranty.

    Anybody got anything to convince me to go with one or the other?
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    (Cheap) Chinese Carbon Rims?

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    Hey what did your first set weigh; I assume you used the 35mm wide rims?
    About 390 grams for each rim. Didn't order the 35mm wide ones. Just these:

    http://www.light-bicycle.com/bead-ho...l#.U7t4bNq9KSM

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    Those are the 27mm rims. Most guys here seem interested in the 35mm rims.

    Just thought I would mention.... Broke a spoke nipple over the weekend racing. Got a replacement on the way home and pulled everything apart to sort it out. While I had it apart I checked out all the nipples for corrosion. All looked good including the broken one. My wheelset is almost 6 months old. So even if corrosion shows up after a year, you could just swap out all the nipples for new ones.

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    MTB Pilot,

    Go with the new Pro 321 hubs, they do share the same 120 points of engagement drive system, but the Project 321 use angular bearings and have adjustable preload with better end caps. Better anodizing also, and better Warr. They are both great companies, but I think Project 321 rear hub is now better, and about the same weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    MTB Pilot,

    Go with the new Pro 321 hubs, they do share the same 120 points of engagement drive system, but the Project 321 use angular bearings and have adjustable preload with better end caps. Better anodizing also, and better Warr. They are both great companies, but I think Project 321 rear hub is now better, and about the same weight.
    Cool, thanks! I was kind of leaning that way, and will probably be the end result.
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    Also I like the Sapim laser spokes or CX Rays if you have the money, 2 cross for 29er carbon rims with alloy nips. Just my opinion!! Makes for a killer light weight/durable wheel combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rusto View Post
    Has anyone ordered from carbonbicycle.cc? Seems like the same stuff/website but a bit cheaper. Any feedback would be great.
    I put in my order. 2/353.90
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Also I like the Sapim laser spokes or CX Rays if you have the money, 2 cross for 29er carbon rims with alloy nips. Just my opinion!! Makes for a killer light weight/durable wheel combo.
    SWEET! I'll look into them. The wheel set I'm trying to replace, I built with Derby wide rims(455g) DT Swiss 350 hubs, DT Swiss Comp DB Spokes and alloy nips. They weigh 1910g with valves and tape, which isn't bad for a wheel that could be used in a DH race, but for my everyday chunk, I want something still quite durable and lighter.

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    Yea, that's not bad!! My 30mm outside width, hookless 29er 32 hole LB wheels with Hadley hubs and Sapim Laser spokes and alloy nips, tape and valves came to 1798g. Your Dt Swiss 350 hubs are lighter than Hadley. The 240 DT Swiss are way better than the 350 and are made in China that's why the 350 are so inexpensive. How are the bearings holding up? Getting ready to put them on my new Pivot Mach 429 carbon "green" the frame just came in!! Can't wait. The Derbies look like nice rims !!

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    (Cheap) Chinese Carbon Rims?

    The 29" carbon wheelsets i got from China are NICE!!

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    Has anyone had any experience with the iPlay rims, or is there a separate thread for these?
    Lapierre XR29ei, Chris King LB Carbon, XTR 1 X 10
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    Yea, that's not bad!! My 30mm outside width, hookless 29er 32 hole LB wheels with Hadley hubs and Sapim Laser spokes and alloy nips, tape and valves came to 1798g. Your Dt Swiss 350 hubs are lighter than Hadley. The 240 DT Swiss are way better than the 350 and are made in China that's why the 350 are so inexpensive. How are the bearings holding up? Getting ready to put them on my new Pivot Mach 429 carbon "green" the frame just came in!! Can't wait. The Derbies look like nice rims !!
    The Derby rims are great, but I want to use that set for more gravity, super chunk as they are quite beefy at 455 grams. The 350s are great hubs, just 30-60 grams heavier, due to the hub body that is maid in Taiwan, not China. I've never had problems with the bearings on all three sets of wheels that I run them on, but I live in the desert and don't wash my bike as much as most. I use a 36 or 54 tooth star ratchet in all my 350s just like the 240s, so not worth the money since they aren't rotational weight.

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