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    Quote Originally Posted by hillharman View Post
    Basically, there are multiple senses of the word "like" and you inferred the wrong one. My meaning was "as though it were" and not "such as." In the context of the original post, mine usage makes perfect sense.
    got it now! makes perfect sense.
    i get things... my apologies for the deraillment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    got it now! makes perfect sense.
    i get things... my apologies for the deraillment.
    No worries. I was using bad forum etiquette by not quoting adequately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pau11y View Post
    Hey, anybody bought from Nextie-Bike.com? I was told they source their rims from the same factory as LB. Looking for some feedback on build quality and feel. Any weirdness in transaction? I'm about to pull the trigger on a set of their 35mm 27.5 hoops. Thanks in advance.
    I'm running those rims. The transaction went without issues and their communication was better than I expected. Mine came in at 421 and 422 grams. Their site now has a weight of 410+/- grams. They also have a two year warranty versus one with most Chinese rims

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    Quote Originally Posted by BXCc View Post
    I'm running those rims. The transaction went without issues and their communication was better than I expected. Mine came in at 421 and 422 grams. Their site now has a weight of 410+/- grams. They also have a two year warranty versus one with most Chinese rims
    Right on man, thanks!
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    Where is everyone getting there 35mm wide hook-less bead rims. Does anyone sell a wheel-set for a reasonable price. That doesn't take to long for shipping. I seen someone on pinkbike selling 35mm rims for $260. Seems a little expensive.

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    Have you read any of the 200+ posts? one place is light bicycle.com.

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    The best 35mm rims would be Derby rims at 299.00 each.

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    (Cheap) Chinese Carbon Rims?

    Quote Originally Posted by dirkdaddy View Post
    Have you read any of the 200+ posts? one place is light bicycle.com.
    Do you have a link? I don't see it announced on the LB website..?

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    Quote Originally Posted by langen View Post
    Do you have a link? I don't see it announced on the LB website..?
    You need to contact directly by email

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    Quote Originally Posted by caRpetbomBer View Post
    $260. Seems a little expensive.
    FAIL. No but seriously... You can't be serious.

    I've seen them available on ebay though and they have directed people to purchase them via ebay.

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    Well, LB 30mm ID hookless wheel set with Hope pro 2 evo hubs and aero spokes ordered. Approx 20 days till they are in my hand and will report back once they turn up and fitted to my Anthem x29er.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTR-33 View Post
    FAIL. No but seriously... You can't be serious.

    I've seen them available on ebay though and they have directed people to purchase them via ebay.
    I hope you know you could get that same rim from light-bicycle for $180 each and would cost you $50 shipped for booth.

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    Re: (Cheap) Chinese Carbon Rims?

    So I got my Wheelset today , unfortunately the front axle adaptor fell out into the box.
    Its a novatec 771sb hub.
    I have no idea how to install this properly as the only way the outer ring gets pressure to stay on place the wheels wont fit. When I install in what "feels" right the outer ring ((yellow highlight)) has no reason to stay in place and seems like even a slight bump would knock that ring loose.

    Ive installed it with A facing out. Then ring over it with 1 facing out.


    Ive enclosed pictures.

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    Without one of these hubs in my hands, or more photos, its difficult to be confident in an answer. But I would suggest putting the 1/2 ring over the A/B adapter such that A side and 2 side are both facing out away from the hub.

    Can you look at the rotor side of the hub and compare?

    Might there be an O ring missing from the outer ring portion of the adapter, or the hub? Often these axle adapters have little more than an O-ring to keep them in place when off the frame. When they are on the frame, the axle keeps them properly positioned and supported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manmythlegend View Post
    So I got my Wheelset today , unfortunately the front axle adaptor fell out into the box.
    Its a novatec 771sb hub.
    I have no idea how to install this properly as the only way the outer ring gets pressure to stay on place the wheels wont fit. When I install in what "feels" right the outer ring ((yellow highlight)) has no reason to stay in place and seems like even a slight bump would knock that ring loose.

    Ive installed it with A facing out. Then ring over it with 1 facing out.


    Ive enclosed pictures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InertiaMan View Post
    Without one of these hubs in my hands, or more photos, its difficult to be confident in an answer. But I would suggest putting the 1/2 ring over the A/B adapter such that A side and 2 side are both facing out away from the hub.

    Can you look at the rotor side of the hub and compare?

    Might there be an O ring missing from the outer ring portion of the adapter, or the hub? Often these axle adapters have little more than an O-ring to keep them in place when off the frame. When they are on the frame, the axle keeps them properly positioned and supported.
    Quote Originally Posted by spunkmtb View Post
    have you tried contacting Novatec?
    The 1/2 is what I assumed was the washer. My first thought was the same that the axle would keep everything in place. It just seems bizarre that it really has nothing holding it in. Ive attached pics Peter sent me of an assembled hub.

    And yes I emailed Novatec. Id rather be certain than going for a spin and ruining a piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manmythlegend View Post
    The 1/2 is what I assumed was the washer. My first thought was the same that the axle would keep everything in place. It just seems bizarre that it really has nothing holding it in. Ive attached pics Peter sent me of an assembled hub.

    And yes I emailed Novatec. Id rather be certain than going for a spin and ruining a piece.
    Not sure if this is the same scenario but when I ran the 20mm end-caps for my Stan's front hub, they would simply fall out when the wheel was removed from the fork. Once attached to the fork, everything was solid. When I switched my fork out for a new one with a QR15, I bought the 15mm end-caps from Stan's and they fit snug as ever. No issues with them falling out.

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    Possible crack

    I was getting ready to take my rims to wheel builder and I found this, may be crack in one of rims. I guess I will let the wheel builder take a look, I sent some picts to Nancy see what she has to say.

    Really hard to tell, I can put my fingernail in the crack/scrach or what ever it is. I'm worried now!!
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    Looks like a mark in the resin from the layup materials. It's probably nothing to worry about, but having your wheel builder look at it in the flesh is a good move.
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    As long as you are not in a hurry I have been waiting for 5 weeks for mine. They say they shipped but the tracking number is not working so not sure just yet if they really are in transit or not.

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    Yea I was looking at the spoke hole and it does not appear to go through.

    Shipping info on my set of rims just showed they were shipped, and in 4 days I had them. Really fast shipping !! It took 8 days to get my Troy Lee A1 helmet all with in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    I was getting ready to take my rims to wheel builder and I found this, may be crack in one of rims. I guess I will let the wheel builder take a look, I sent some picts to Nancy see what she has to say.

    Really hard to tell, I can put my fingernail in the crack/scrach or what ever it is. I'm worried now!!
    Interesting (though not surprising I guess) that they drilled a hole through and then sanded to illegibility the serial number.
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    I know that area just looks a little strange, I wounder what Nancy will have to say.

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    Finally got the wheel set done picked up today.
    I had Eddie F. @ Roseville Cyclery in Roseville Ca. build them up for me he did a very nice job.
    Chris King ISO 28 hole front and rear Red.
    Light Bicycles Hookless.
    593.22 ERD Rear.
    593.58 ERD Front.
    Spokes DT SWISS Comp White 2.0/1.8 292 mm.
    DT Red alloy Nipples.
    3 x Laced.
    125 kfg Rear drive side.
    115 kfg Front disc side.
    Rear 920 grams.
    Front 730 grams.
    1650 grams total.
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    so, you have the ability to measure ERD to an accuracy of +-10 micrometres? how do you do this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sclyde2 View Post
    so, you have the ability to measure ERD to an accuracy of +-10 micrometres? how do you do this?
    I will have to ask the builder it's on his notes.
    As stated above I didn't build them myself.

    Added 5/22/2014 @ 12:31 PST:
    Talked to builder forgive me if I don't pass on the info perfect it was mostly Greek to me.
    He said he uses a Wheel Smiths ERD rod then deducts the over lap using a calculator.
    So we can just say the ERD is 593 for both front and rear.
    Sorry for the confusion I didn't even think about it when I posted it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sclyde2 View Post
    so, you have the ability to measure ERD to an accuracy of +-10 micrometres? how do you do this?
    No way... maybe the artifact of an average calculation.
    Pretty typical overstatement of precision.
    Neither is tension to the +/- 1 kgf possible.
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    looks like 2x laced

    no, it is 3, yes.

    haven´t thougt 28h for 3x, bit limits

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    Quote Originally Posted by manninen View Post
    looks like 2x laced
    No it doesn't.
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    white spokes just burned my cortex. now i see only those spokes

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    could even be as limits as my 20h front wheel im building right now, waiting for spokes.
    20h 2x and quite high flange

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    Possible crack

    I took some very light steal wool to that area, I don't think it's a crack. Looks like it in the resin. Don't want to remove the serial number. Waiting for Nancy to reply.
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    (Cheap) Chinese Carbon Rims?-img_7906.jpg(Cheap) Chinese Carbon Rims?-img_7907.jpg(Cheap) Chinese Carbon Rims?-img_7910.jpg(Cheap) Chinese Carbon Rims?-img_7911.jpgOrdered some rims from carboncycle.cc.

    Same company/manufacturer as LB, different front end. (Maybe?)

    Anyway, they arrived with a defect. I'm thinking about returning the one wheel. I can't really tell if the "lesion" reaches past the clear coat or not. Any layup experts out there care to comment?

    I'll let let you know what the CC.cc guys have to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McGG View Post

    Anyway, they arrived with a defect. I'm thinking about returning the one
    That's an understatement. No way I'd ride the "good" one or the replacement rim. I'd never get the image of that crack out of my head.
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    I think it was damaged after manufacturing. The carbonbicycle.cc guys seem to be responsive about replacing it so far. If everything isn't to my satisfaction, then I will certainly report back here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PauLCa916 View Post
    Finally got the wheel set done picked up today.
    I had Eddie F. @ Roseville Cyclery in Roseville Ca. build them up for me he did a very nice job.
    Chris King ISO 28 hole front and rear Red.
    Light Bicycles Hookless.
    593.22 ERD Rear.
    593.58 ERD Front.
    Spokes DT SWISS Comp White 2.0/1.8 292 mm.
    DT Red alloy Nipples.
    3 x Laced.
    125 kfg Rear drive side.
    115 kfg Front disc side.
    Rear 920 grams.
    Front 730 grams.
    1650 grams total.
    Pretty much the build I am looking for.

    Did you go with the 35M rims or the 27mm rims?

    I'd prefer a lighter wheel as I mainly ride XC here in VT, but wondering if its worth the extra width seeing as I ride our West a few times a year and do like more control on the down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PauLCa916 View Post
    Finally got the wheel set done picked up today.
    I had Eddie F. @ Roseville Cyclery in Roseville Ca. build them up for me he did a very nice job.
    Chris King ISO 28 hole front and rear Red.
    Light Bicycles Hookless.
    593.22 ERD Rear.
    593.58 ERD Front.
    Spokes DT SWISS Comp White 2.0/1.8 292 mm.
    DT Red alloy Nipples.
    3 x Laced.
    125 kfg Rear drive side.
    115 kfg Front disc side.
    Rear 920 grams.
    Front 730 grams.
    1650 grams total.
    Assuming that weight is with skewers? Tape? Valves?

    I feel like those wheels should've built up lighter. Using info available online, you should've been in the 1555g range.

    Skewers would put you up another 100g. Tape and valves I think is another 25-40 g.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodstockMTB View Post
    Pretty much the build I am looking for.

    Did you go with the 35M rims or the 27mm rims?

    I'd prefer a lighter wheel as I mainly ride XC here in VT, but wondering if its worth the extra width seeing as I ride our West a few times a year and do like more control on the down.
    27 mm.

    Quote Originally Posted by hokiebrett View Post
    Assuming that weight is with skewers? Tape? Valves?

    I feel like those wheels should've built up lighter. Using info available online, you should've been in the 1555g range.

    Skewers would put you up another 100g. Tape and valves I think is another 25-40 g.
    That's what they weighed at the shop with out axles tape and valves.
    I made the comment that I thought they would be in the mid 1500's and the builder said that the Chris King hubs are a bit on the heavy side.

    Wen't for a ride Saturday and Sunday I'm really happy with the way this wheel set handle's.
    Felt like I was learning to ride a new bike.
    Climbing and cornering felt a lot better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PauLCa916 View Post
    27 mm.



    That's what they weighed at the shop with out axles tape and valves.
    I made the comment that I thought they would be in the mid 1500's and the builder said that the Chris King hubs are a bit on the heavy side.
    Were the skewers in the hubs while they were being weighed? If yes, then the weight makes perfect sense and is spot on to my excel sheet model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodstockMTB View Post
    Pretty much the build I am looking for.

    Did you go with the 35M rims or the 27mm rims?

    I'd prefer a lighter wheel as I mainly ride XC here in VT, but wondering if its worth the extra width seeing as I ride our West a few times a year and do like more control on the down.
    Quote Originally Posted by hokiebrett View Post
    Were the skewers in the hubs while they were being weighed? If yes, then the weight makes perfect sense and is spot on to my excel sheet model.
    No skewers.
    After posting I checked on a web site and the difference is 172 grams from front to rear hub the difference in the front and rear wheel is 190 grams.
    So the 18 gram difference may be in the rims ?
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    Re: (Cheap) Chinese Carbon Rims?

    Built up my front wheel:
    LB 27 mm hookless 29", AM weight - 399 g
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    Sapim Laser & Brass Nips
    Total weight: 780 g (no valve, tape or skewer)



    Tubeless setup with Stan's tape was straightforward. Running at 20 - 25 psi with a Maxxis Ikon 29 x 2.35.

    Have a few rides on it, and have noticed the front end feels lighter, quicker, and more direct when steering. So far so good. Next I need to do the rear...

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    Just built up a set of 27 hookless. White industries 15mm front 28 spoke, rear Eno 32 spoke. revolution spokes, Sapim aluminum nips and velofuze nipple washers. 1654 grams total. No QR or bolts. Very nice wheels.

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    Kings are on the heavy side and I bet the rims vary by as much as 15-20g each. So, add the extra hub weight and variance in the rims and there you go.

    Still, shows how heavy the kings are compared to something like I9 or DTSwiss. At least 200g or 1/2 lb difference. Sweet hubs though. Last you foreva.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodstockMTB View Post
    Still, shows how heavy the kings are compared to something like I9 or DTSwiss. At least 200g or 1/2 lb difference.
    When in doubt... make s**t up.

    I knew you were full of it when I read your post... and only took me 30 seconds to confirm how far off you are.

    Kings are relatively heavy, true, but only 50g heavier than Torch (old I9 classics were heavier than Kings) and 100g heavier than the 240.

    WTF? "At least a 1/2 lb heavier?"
    Oh, and btw, 200g is not a 1/2 lb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    When in doubt... make s**t up.

    I knew you were full of it when I read your post... and only took me 30 seconds to confirm how far off you are.

    Kings are relatively heavy, true, but only 50g heavier than Torch (old I9 classics were heavier than Kings) and 100g heavier than the 240.

    WTF? "At least a 1/2 lb heavier?"
    Oh, and btw, 200g is not a 1/2 lb.
    1/2 lb = 226.whateva grams. You caught me red handed. I actually replaced my steel skewers with Ti skewers once and saved like 26g and let tell you what a difference it made. Set a personal best on my local climb that day.

    As for my 200g ......I was using the wheel owner's numbers incorrectly. So, I admit total and utter failure there. (You caught me again, dammit) What I should have written was 100g extra for the Kings over other high end hubs (not the 172g I incorrectly used from above) plus the potential increase in rim weight (+/- 15g per rim LB's website). 172 + 30 = 202. In reality more like 130g.

    And again, you're right, this s**t matters a lot. I once replaced my aluminum post & stem with a carbon post and stem saving 127g and another 3g replacing my aluminum spacers with carbon spaces. Guess what my total weight savings was?

    You got it: 130g!!!!.....and AGAIN I hit another personal best.

    It's a bike wheel, D-Bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodstockMTB View Post
    1/2 lb = 226.whateva grams. You caught me red handed. I actually replaced my steel skewers with Ti skewers once and saved like 26g and let tell you what a difference it made. Set a personal best on my local climb that day.

    As for my 200g ......I was using the wheel owner's numbers incorrectly. So, I admit total and utter failure there. (You caught me again, dammit) What I should have written was 100g extra for the Kings over other high end hubs (not the 172g I incorrectly used from above) plus the potential increase in rim weight (+/- 15g per rim LB's website). 172 + 30 = 202. In reality more like 130g.

    And again, you're right, this s**t matters a lot. I once replaced my aluminum post & stem with a carbon post and stem saving 127g and another 3g replacing my aluminum spacers with carbon spaces. Guess what my total weight savings was?

    You got it: 130g!!!!.....and AGAIN I hit another personal best.

    It's a bike wheel, D-Bag.
    wow
    butthurt much?
    50g isn't "at least 200g," no matter how much personal best and spacer BS you drag into it.
    If it bothers you that bad take the 30 seconds to check your facts first.
    If it doesn't matter, why throw numbers around?
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    Time to stop believing the hype and start doing some science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    wow
    butthurt much?
    50g isn't "at least 200g," no matter how much personal best and spacer BS you drag into it.
    If it bothers you that bad take the 30 seconds to check your facts first.
    If it doesn't matter, why throw numbers around?

    I, for one, am glad that you post here often as you're an incredibly knowledgeable person - esp in regard to wheelbuilding. But sometimes you come across as a HUGE douchenozzle.

    Hopefully, for your own sake, you're a little more chill in real life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walt Disney's Frozen Head View Post
    I, for one, am glad that you post here often as you're an incredibly knowledgeable person - esp in regard to wheelbuilding.
    Thanks
    Quote Originally Posted by Walt Disney's Frozen Head View Post
    But sometimes you come across as a HUGE douchenozzle.
    I get that... and try to stay conscious of it... I'm also a smart ass though, which complicates things.
    I do have a bit of an issue with people making stuff up and slinging it out like fact, which plenty of people here do... it defeats the information sharing purpose of a forum like this.
    Some of it is my writing style, maybe because I was raised by two attorneys.
    Quote Originally Posted by Walt Disney's Frozen Head View Post
    Hopefully, for your own sake, you're a little more chill in real life.
    lol
    I am.
    Quote Originally Posted by pvd
    Time to stop believing the hype and start doing some science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WoodstockMTB View Post
    I actually replaced my steel skewers with Ti skewers once and saved like 26g and let tell you what a difference it made. Set a personal best on my local climb that day.
    I cant tell if this statement was made in jest or if youre actually serious..
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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    wow
    butthurt much?
    50g isn't "at least 200g," no matter how much personal best and spacer BS you drag into it.
    If it bothers you that bad take the 30 seconds to check your facts first.
    If it doesn't matter, why throw numbers around?
    Hey man...I'm the one having fun here. No worries on my end. Just having a good time with how wound up and mean you got over the weight of bike hubs in an internet forum.

    DTs are easily over 100G lighter. I9s? I stand corrected...the newer torch hubs they use in the wheels they build are in fact lighter, but the Classics are not. So, I'll concede defeat to your clear superior bicycle hub weight knowledge.

    Good rule to live by: Give people the benefit of the doubt. Most people are good and well intentioned unless they so obviously show you otherwise...kinda like you.

    Just kiddin'

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