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    carbon bits from ebay


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    640mm!? 750mm on my bikes, thanks.
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    i ride singletrack in tight woods. zipping next to trees and such. thanks though

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    Heh, us CO folks do get kinda spoiled. Most of our stuff is rocks and not so much w/ dense vegetation...but there are spots.
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    If you're comfortable with it, buy it. Ride on!
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    No name carbon is not something I would recommend. I'd like to see the certs on the bars also. Supposedly Eurto and Japanese certifed..
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    Quote Originally Posted by eb1888 View Post
    No name carbon is not something I would recommend. I'd like to see the certs on the bars also. Supposedly Euro and Japanese certified.
    yeah i understand that. the stem is a little contro to me. I have decided against that as i am a thomson seat post and stem fan already. The bars look to be bontrager; I can handle that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tylerw View Post
    The bars look to be bontrager; I can handle that.
    But, can you handle it if they are Bontrager imitations? I see a lot of Bonty and FSA stuff on alibaba that i would swear are all knock offs.

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    i will handle it haha. the bontrager is some reassurance though. $30.00 for some carbon bars, if i dont like em, i will sell em locally for $forty.

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    Its not if you don't like them, its if they will snap on you while blazing though the rock garden. Just because it says Bontrager doesn't mean they actually made it. I have also purchased "inexpensive" bars from ebay before, so, i'm not trying to persuade you away from these. I only want you to be fully informed of the possible risks. One of the bars i bought was the Syncros AM bar. It even has reinforced ends for bar ends. I also prefer ordering from a USA based company. If something goes wrong, i want to know who to talk to.

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    they (bars) should be reliable enough for what they are designed for. the even stated this in the add: Passed Europe Sandards and the JAPAN JIS Standards.

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    Looks legit. Alot of people get carbon bars made at the same factory.then put tjier own sticker on them . These seem to be surplus bars and the factory just paints em them selves..
    Or these are bars that got kicked out for quality control and no other company would buy em so the factory sells em them selves....

    About the only thing i buy top quality on my bike are the handle bars. Thers no way for them to break without ruining your life

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    I don't know man. That price seems ridiculous. I have been wary of carbon for a long time. I think a lot more research and development goes into the bigger name bars. My Ritchey WCS carbon bar was 183.00. That gives me a (possibly false) sense of security. No offense, but I wouldn't ride around the block on a 30.00 carbon bar. Will you be attaching shifters, brake levers? Stem? Hope you have an accurate torque wrench.

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    im wary as you are of carbon. I will check them out closer when they get to my hands from china. If i feel they are sketchy then they will just be a nice red tagged addition to the parts bin.

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    hence the reason i only want to spend 30 dollars on them

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    I've got ones like that from ebay, and a seatpost. but they are not painted. no issues so far. carbon bars and stem is a risk though. more risk in the stem I think. if that breaks there goes your whole handlebar. if your handlebar breaks at least you have the other half hopefully to control the bike with. I think most name brand carbon bars have a recommended 2 year replacement from the maker. I don't have any more faith in bars with a name brand on them either.

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    Been running a no name chinese bar from Ebay for awhile now. I have done a few endurance races with them as well. Cannot tell a difference between this and a "name" bar. Maybe there is, and the potential for failure is there, but it is with any bar. Plus you would hard pressed to convince me that this bar is not what is being private labeled right now.

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    Some of you guys are incredibly gullible and trusting. I only hope that your product does not fail. I won't order from any company if I don't have an address and telephone number. I have checked through google earth and one very popular carbon fiber parts manufacturer came up as an apartment building. In another case, there was no physical address at all. Most of the companies selling through Internet do not have a commodity inspection sheet because they are shipping through courier companies and getting around the inspection....just about envy time I check what the Chinese manufacturers say has been nothing but a lie....but then again you guys don't check like I do......

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    Every bar works great right before it snaps.

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    Not pulling for or against, but what's the deal with these?
    New Mountain Bike Carbon Fiber Handlebar Carbon Bicycle Handlebar 31 8 640mm | eBay

    Clear Ripoff of Ritchey, or same source as Ritchey selling under the table? Seems like Ripoffs would get reported and filtered out.

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    I see some negative reviews for items being counterfeit now. The ebay store has existed since Jan 2012. Surprised ebay lets a clear counterfeiter keep going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n74740 View Post
    I see some negative reviews for items being counterfeit now. The ebay store has existed since Jan 2012. Surprised ebay lets a clear counterfeiter keep going.
    What you don't understand is that they are all Trading Companies, stop them and they recreate under a different name. You all think they are the mfr, but they are not. A very good friend of mine goes to trade shows in China and told me that they go to booths and the brochures show a huge factory and when you go to check them out you realize they operate out of a warehouse. I know of one ccompany being used here that has a pretty good reputation. Their quality improved between last year and this year. Everyone thinks that their quality improved.....not so, the factory they were using went out of business and they had a find another manufacturer. They stopped the warranty from the old mfr. and did not honor it....there have also been many situations where if you complain too much, tyhey cut you off and will not respond to e-mails. The prices are very cheap and I will admit that.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by n74740 View Post
    Not pulling for or against, but what's the deal with these?
    New Mountain Bike Carbon Fiber Handlebar Carbon Bicycle Handlebar 31 8 640mm | eBay

    Clear Ripoff of Ritchey, or same source as Ritchey selling under the table? Seems like Ripoffs would get reported and filtered out.
    Incredible what they get away with....

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    Quote Originally Posted by YaMon View Post
    Some of you guys are incredibly gullible and trusting.
    Less gullible and trusting than someone who spends way more money on a virtually identical product, just because of the name that's painted on it?

    ...Just sayin'.

    personally I know I'm hard on stuff AND I don't like to spend money, so I stay away from carbon bars altogether. If I have to worry about bolt torque when mounting up my shifters and brake levers, it's too dainty for me. I'll ride beefy aluminum bars (not that they're immune to failure) and try to shed a few ounces by eating less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommuterBoy View Post
    Less gullible and trusting than someone who spends way more money on a virtually identical product, just because of the name that's painted on it?

    ...Just sayin'.

    personally I know I'm hard on stuff AND I don't like to spend money, so I stay away from carbon bars altogether. If I have to worry about bolt torque when mounting up my shifters and brake levers, it's too dainty for me. I'll ride beefy aluminum bars (not that they're immune to failure) and try to shed a few ounces by eating less.
    Well I must admit that there are a bunch of companies.....not just cycling companies that pay nothing for stuff in China and come over here and charge an arm and a leg. However, those very same companies have liability insurance and have had some developmental costs. Whenever you export in large quantities from China there is a government QC program and there is something called a commodity inspection report. The gov't knows that they have to improve the quality and trying to change their image. These small companies sending by mail and small courier do not get caught because of the sheer volume when you use that method. Some of these products are coming from small factories with less than 10 people.....I am not stopping you from buying, but you need to know what the risks are....I don't approve of copying a persons designs and throwing the same decal on it, that is just plain theft.

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    Actually the point I was making was that the ebay store has existed for a year and almost 4 months and ebay and the various mfg. that they are copying haven't clamped down on that particular ebay store. It's not like it just popped up overnight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tylerw View Post
    The bars look to be bontrager; I can handle that.
    They're fakes, they have a red B and XXX on them, but nowhere does the listing mention the word Bontrager.

    Honestly, $30 'not brand X' parts are the ones to avoid on Ebay.

    There are some perfectly good Ebay based brands (Exotic for example) but there's such a thing as too good to be true too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fix the Spade View Post
    They're fakes, they have a red B and XXX on them, but nowhere does the listing mention the word Bontrager.
    Honestly, $30 'not brand X' parts are the ones to avoid on Ebay.

    There are some perfectly good Ebay based brands (Exotic for example) but there's such a thing as too good to be true too.
    you are correct possibly. Notice the key word "look" i used.

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    I also saw some that said Bontrager and FSA...

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    You do realize that the factories in China produce different manufactures items. There are shoe factories that just make shoes and the manufactures like Nike, Merrell and others rent factories and employees to make there product. They do use the different manufactures specs to make the product. I would guess that some bike parts from different manufactures are made in the same factory. Quality control is not very good and short cuts are taken and I would guess a lot of blems could get on the open market.
    I have a friend that works for a company that gets product form China and they had to destroy a hole shipment of product when the factory used a different material than was spec'd (was a color issue). Now they send people over to watch when the factory is making there product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlennard View Post
    You do realize that the factories in China produce different manufactures items. There are shoe factories that just make shoes and the manufactures like Nike, Merrell and others rent factories and employees to make there product. They do use the different manufactures specs to make the product. I would guess that some bike parts from different manufactures are made in the same factory. Quality control is not very good and short cuts are taken and I would guess a lot of blems could get on the open market.
    I have a friend that works for a company that gets product form China and they had to destroy a hole shipment of product when the factory used a different material than was spec'd (was a color issue). Now they send people over to watch when the factory is making there product.
    Slowly, they will figure it out....Remember when EVIL came out with that Carbon Fiber frame ?? You did not hear much about it after it was launched....they started having major problems and they were breaking like crazy. EVIL sent the entire batch back and demanded that they be replaced...you know what the mfr did?? He patched them with putty, repainted them and sent them back to the USA....and that is why all companies that have things made in China send someone over there to check on quality BEFORE it gets shipped to the states. Santa Cruz, Specialized....they all do. Who is looking out for the people ordering directly from these factories ????
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    you talking about the evil undead??

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    I would guess that is what happened to Maxxis and the Ikon getting blisters. I have had to get both of mine replaced. I would guess that some formula or build process for the rubber was not used correctly. It could be that the design for the tire did not get tested enough, but more than likely manufacturing.
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    I did buy a Bontrager carbon bar from China over a year ago and it has held up great. I have hit a few trees with it and no problems. The only thing that I can tell it may not be true Bontrager is the clear coat does not seam to be too tough. It is not rocket science to make a carbon tube. My wife and I both have carbon factory fames and both of them have been replaced from cracks and they cost a lot more than some carbon China parts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuglio View Post
    YAMon

    you talking about the evil undead??
    Not sure Fuglio...I am repeating what I heard from a very good friend that knows the owner of EVIL bikes. I went back after I posted and noticed that they had MAJOR problems with the Revolt being made in Asia.....I am now questioning if he had said Revolt or Undead....the last article I red on the Undead was 2011, so I am wondering if it was in fact the Undead.. Confusing right now. Could they have gotten screwed twice?.

    The point of my post does not change, manufacturers have to send someone over there to check every order before it leaves China. Who is checking these products that are being sold by Internet.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by YaMon View Post
    Not sure Fuglio...I am repeating what I heard from a very good friend that knows the owner of EVIL bikes. I went back after I posted and noticed that they had MAJOR problems with the Revolt being made in Asia.....I am now questioning if he had said Revolt or Undead....the last article I red on the Undead was 2011, so I am wondering if it was in fact the Undead.. Confusing right now. Could they have gotten screwed twice?.

    The point of my post does not change, manufacturers have to send someone over there to check every order before it leaves China. Who is checking these products that are being sold by Internet.....
    Fuglio....I went back and read an article about the problems when Evil sent their production to Asia. It sounds exactly like the problem he described to me. So, it may be the Revolt I was referring to. Sorry.....hope it was not the Undead...

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    carbon bits from ebay-130502_002.jpgcarbon bits from ebay-130502_001.jpg
    got the bar in today. looks to be a great bang for the buck. Might install it this weekend.

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    after closer inspection, i found maybe the reason why the were kicked out by qc is due to a blemish in the paint. Hard to see but the white is a little smudged over the cf. Will never notice unless really really looking hard for it. A good enough reason to kick it out though whenever a person is paying over $200 for it and expecting best of the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tylerw View Post
    just letting the community know?

    WTF?

    I might poop later

    overshare
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    Time to stop believing the hype and start doing some science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meltingfeather View Post
    just letting the community know?

    WTF?

    I might poop later

    overshare
    getting opinions on what is going on with these.

    everyone attn. meltingfeather is so cool no matter what anyone says. i just want to share that with you all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tylerw View Post
    after closer inspection, i found maybe the reason why the were kicked out by qc is due to a blemish in the paint.
    What makes you think its a bar that got kicked out for QC? Couldnt it be a cheap knock off ?

    Any ways good luck with the bars. Try not to hit your teeth on the stem when it snaps on you.

    Your a brave man trusting your face to a no name company from china.

    But hey you saved 50 bucks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tylerw View Post
    getting opinions on what is going on with these.
    Read your post. That's not what you said. In fact, it looked like spam.

    Quote Originally Posted by tylerw View Post
    everyone attn. meltingfeather is so cool no matter what anyone says. i just want to share that with you all.
    lol

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    Do the "legit" Bontrager bars have the 3k weave appearance?

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    some people log more posts than miles. its a shame they get in that rut.

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    Entertaining thread.....lots of misinformation being posted.

    Carry on....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tylerw View Post
    some people log more posts than miles. its a shame they get in that rut.
    it's a shame that sensitive people let internet jokes make them fussy.
    Quote Originally Posted by pvd
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    I'd be surprised if they are actually bonty handlebars. I think they are just painted like that to look like them but who knows. they look like mine which have no paint. if I were you I'd put them on and test them around the yard before hitting the trail. i also wouldn't buy super light chinese carbon bits. most of the seatposts, stems, handlebars and other items you see on ebay aren't close to the lighest you can buy from a name brand. seems like a recipe for disaster if they were.

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