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    anyone get rid of FD and regret it? thinking about X01 or XX1 for new bike

    I am actually thinking about this for a new MTB and also for my CX bike. sram has cx1 coming soon. My road bike has elec shift and I am thinking about something different. has anyone gone to no FD and regretted it?
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    anyone get rid of FD and regret it? thinking about X01 or XX1 for new bike

    I did for a while. Had to stop to move the chain between chainrings, though I could make a downshift with my heel sometimes. Was a PITA.

    With a single chainring there is no need for a FD, so you do not miss it.
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    Now that is some good sarcasm. I haven't had any coffee yet and I had to re read it to see if one of us was a little slow on the uptake
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    I'm running 1 x 10 on my MTB and don't miss the front chainrings. I'm running 32T x 11-36T.

    With XX1/XO1 you'd have an even wider gear range.
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    It's pretty easy to determine how you'll like it. Just stop shifting the front derailleur!

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    Go 1 X 11. The only thing I would regret is whippin' out 300 clams for a cassette.

    I went 1 X 9 on my hard tail with a 36 front and 11-36 cassette. A little steep for some climbs but I deal with it by standing and mashing. No regrets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glide the Clyde View Post
    The only thing I would regret is whippin' out 300 clams for a cassette.
    +1 - They are pricey:

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    You can try a 10spd 42T option if you are willing to mess around with your drivetrain a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    +1 - They are pricey
    Sorry. 400+ clams. Now folks will chime in with "where'd you see an XX1 for $300?"
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    I went 1x9 about 8 months ago....32x11/34 on my Tallboy. I really like it. Haven't run into a situation where I felt I needed any more gear.

    About 1 month ago, moved up to 1x10 (32x11/36). Didn't need the extra gear, but wanted to make the jump to Type 2 Derailluer.

    Keep in mind that I normal ride a SS so I am used to turning a bigger gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donn12 View Post
    Now that is some good sarcasm. I haven't had any coffee yet and I had to re read it to see if one of us was a little slow on the uptake
    I don't think he was being sarcastic. Some people do in fact keep a small chain ring on their cranks and remove all other hardware (shifter and derailleur) if they ride in places where they will predominantly only use a bigger ring. It allows the option to manually use a granny ring when needed on extended hard climbs.

    That said, I've been riding with a nine speed 22T/32T and 11/34T cassette on a 29" hardtail. I recently moved to Northern California where the climbs are at times substantial and I've been thinking about lower gearing. The only 36T nine speed cassette is the low level freehub eating Shimano HG61 so I've been thinking about a 1 X 10 or 1 X 11 system but none of them actually get me a lower gear than I'm already using.
    The trouble with having an open mind is that people will insist on trying to put things in it.

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    I have three mbikes

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    different bikes for different applications.

    The 2x10 is on my FS bike and use it for long distance training and need the extra gearing at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie View Post
    I don't think he was being sarcastic. Some people do in fact keep a small chain ring on their cranks and remove all other hardware (shifter and derailleur) if they ride in places where they will predominantly only use a bigger ring. It allows the option to manually use a granny ring when needed on extended hard climbs.

    That said, I've been riding with a nine speed 22T/32T and 11/34T cassette on a 29" hardtail. I recently moved to Northern California where the climbs are at times substantial and I've been thinking about lower gearing. The only 36T nine speed cassette is the low level freehub eating Shimano HG61 so I've been thinking about a 1 X 10 or 1 X 11 system but none of them actually get me a lower gear than I'm already using.
    Where abouts you live now? I've got 28x36 and 32x36. There are both good, but there are a lot of very tough climbs around here. I've not been riding much outside of local trails this year, and rides under 2 hours, so I haven't needed lower gearing, but I'm always thinking I should get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wish I Were Riding View Post
    Where abouts you live now? I've got 28x36 and 32x36. There are both good, but there are a lot of very tough climbs around here. I've not been riding much outside of local trails this year, and rides under 2 hours, so I haven't needed lower gearing, but I'm always thinking I should get it.
    I'm in the South Bay area.

    I was not referring to the larger or single ring setups but rather my 22T ring and 34T sprocket is still a lower gear ratio than a SRAM XX1 28T ring and 42T on the cassette.
    The trouble with having an open mind is that people will insist on trying to put things in it.

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    I would never run more than one ring up front, regardless of where I lived/rode.

    More crap to break/maintain/add weight/etc...

    I run 32 up front and a 11-36t in the back of the geared bike, and 32:20 on the SS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glide the Clyde View Post
    Sorry. 400+ clams. Now folks will chime in with "where'd you see an XX1 for $300?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    I'm running 1 x 10 on my MTB and don't miss the front chainrings. I'm running 32T x 11-36T.
    Ditto here. Love it! There are a couple of climbs that my legs ache for a granny, but they get fewer and fewer the more I ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronnie View Post
    I'm in the South Bay area.

    I was not referring to the larger or single ring setups but rather my 22T ring and 34T sprocket is still a lower gear ratio than a SRAM XX1 28T ring and 42T on the cassette.
    Oh, so you aren't thinking of going 1x. You were only talking about going 2x and getting a bigger cassette. Sorry I read that wrong.

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    A few years ago I had a Niner RIP9 that had a 22/32/bash set up with 11-34 cassette. I took off the granny, front derailleur, and shifter. I did not like it. I am mostly a single speeder but when I ride full suspension it's all about sitting and spinning. 32/34 was just not a low enough gear. If I ever built up another FS bike I would consider a 1x set up like the One Up with 42 low, but would never spend the money for 11 speed SRAM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thor29 View Post
    A few years ago I had a Niner RIP9 that had a 22/32/bash set up with 11-34 cassette. I took off the granny, front derailleur, and shifter. I did not like it. I am mostly a single speeder but when I ride full suspension it's all about sitting and spinning. 32/34 was just not a low enough gear. If I ever built up another FS bike I would consider a 1x set up like the One Up with 42 low, but would never spend the money for 11 speed SRAM.
    I mostly ride SS as well. I feel the same way when I get on my FS rig. I hate the way it feels when I try to stand and mash so it's sit and spin for me too. I'm running a 30T narrow wide front with 11-36 rear + added 41T cog. I rarely use the 41 but it's there if I need it. Works for me.
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    Oh I wish I could get rid of that horrible burden of my front derailleur, shifter and chain ring!
    So much more maintenance -- (maybe 1 hour every 5 years)
    So much more weight -- (less than one half of 1 percent additional weight to carry)
    But worst of all is the curse of wider options for gearing, which damages one's soul and weakens one's character!


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    Quote Originally Posted by donn12 View Post
    I am actually thinking about this for a new MTB and also for my CX bike. sram has cx1 coming soon. My road bike has elec shift and I am thinking about something different. has anyone gone to no FD and regretted it?
    I did. For xc racing (on a carbon Epic) I missed the low gearing once getting tired. I could still turn the higher gear, but would end up with sore knees the day after the races. I switched back to the 2x10 and it was all better.

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    no regrets here, last 2 bikes have been without a front der.
    Not a lot of big hills in Memphis though, I usually only use 2 to 3 of the gears when riding around here, not sure I have ever used the 36 or 32 tooth rings
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    Funny I read your thread and thought, wow! I never use mine either. Just pulled it off! Thanks for the reminder. lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dvn View Post
    I mostly ride SS as well. I feel the same way when I get on my FS rig. I hate the way it feels when I try to stand and mash so it's sit and spin for me too. I'm running a 30T narrow wide front with 11-36 rear + added 41T cog. I rarely use the 41 but it's there if I need it. Works for me.
    What is the shift action like on the modified cassette? I imagine you dropped the 17T cog to add the 42T ring. From what I am reading, the transit from 15-19 is loud, especially when dropping through the gears and the 42T is quite a tight clearance to the RD. What RD are you using? Did you have to reverse the distance screw on the RD?

    I was considering this option, but in the end I was concerned about shifting action with the 42T setup (1x10). I just went with the 30T Wolf Tooth front ring on a 11-36 rear (1x10). It is too snowy/icy to find out what it is going to be like. I will have to wait for a couple of months to know.

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    1x is the only way to go - so much less hassle, and a good way to drop a full pound off the bike. Running 30T RF N/W and never going back to 2x or 3x.

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    I went 3x9 to 1x9 then to 2x9.

    When I went to 1x9, I ran a 34 front with a 11-34 rear. I didn't really miss the lower gears and felt that it improved my racing because I was forced to ride a higher gear on some climbs. If I had to walk it didn't make much of a difference because the speed of walking vs riding was negligible.

    Only reason I went from 1x9 to 2x9 was because the crankset I was using self destructed and I was able to get a 2x crankset for no cost. Looking back I would have stuck with a 1x setup. I don't really need the higher gears that a 2x system offers and it would be nice to cut some weight off my bike. When I replace this crankset, it's back to a 1x setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s0ul_chicken View Post
    1x is the only way to go - so much less hassle, and a good way to drop a full pound off the bike. Running 30T RF N/W and never going back to 2x or 3x.
    I've got nothing against 1X, but a front derailleur is ZERO "hassle".

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve View Post
    Oh I wish I could get rid of that horrible burden of my front derailleur, shifter and chain ring!
    So much more maintenance -- (maybe 1 hour every 5 years)
    So much more weight -- (less than one half of 1 percent additional weight to carry)
    But worst of all is the curse of wider options for gearing, which damages one's soul and weakens one's character!

    +1 to all of this. If I had the legs to run 1x, I'd think about it, especially for the winter months. For time summer, longer rides (sometimes on new-to-me-trails) I really enjoy having the wide gearing. Yes, its slow in the granny, but I like to ride my bike, not hike it.

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    Don't bash a 1x because you don't have the legs for it - cheap excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beastmaster View Post
    What is the shift action like on the modified cassette? I imagine you dropped the 17T cog to add the 42T ring. From what I am reading, the transit from 15-19 is loud, especially when dropping through the gears and the 42T is quite a tight clearance to the RD. What RD are you using? Did you have to reverse the distance screw on the RD?

    I was considering this option, but in the end I was concerned about shifting action with the 42T setup (1x10). I just went with the 30T Wolf Tooth front ring on a 11-36 rear (1x10). It is too snowy/icy to find out what it is going to be like. I will have to wait for a couple of months to know.

    Another option is the General Lee adaptor. It replces the big three giving more even spacing. 29-34-40. I asked for one for Christmas. Well see how it goes. Little more the the 42 ring alone, but a lot less than switching to Sram.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s0ul_chicken View Post
    Don't bash a 1x because you don't have the legs for it - cheap excuse.
    No-one is bashing it but it simply doesn't work for everyone in all places. Where I live most trails are extended climbs of thousands of feet, and extended descents. I posted in this thread because I'd like the increased simplicity and would change but as I said earlier in this thread, my 2 X 9 (22/32T & 11/34T) has lower gearing than even a SRAM XX1 28T with 42/10T cassette.
    The trouble with having an open mind is that people will insist on trying to put things in it.

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    Race Face Next SL cranks with a 26t if you really need that granny gear. I'm new to mtb'ing, in halfway decent shape when I started. Live in the front range, CO and the majority of my rides have at least 1800' of continuous climbing. A 28t sprocket on XX1 cranks has been fine for me.

    I just had a fat bike built up and went with a 26t in front, and it's not necessary even in snow.
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    I sometimes regret it, but not enough to go back. On long rides on a 27+ lbs bike doing XC stuff (not really it's forte), the longer I go and the more worn out my legs are, the more I regret it. On rides with super fast sections that go faster than 25 MPH, yet still have room to go 35+ MPH, I do not feel comfortable pedaling such a high RPM over small bumps to get to those "mach speeds". It's a compromise. I'll take the compromised gear range over dropped chains, shifting issues, drivetrain noise, and cable clutter. If I go with gears up front, it had better be at least XTR quality shifting.

    Waiting for the wave of new 29er frames that get tighter rear ends, that a lack of a FD allows, before I go all in with 1x11.

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    I did it on my 'cross bike (1x10) and while I enjoyed it for a while and it worked OK on most 'cross courses, I found it to be too limiting for riding on dirt roads and MTB trails. It's a trade-off; you can either have a wide gearing range or reasonable gaps between gears, but not both (the gearing gaps on a 1 x 11 cassette are especially huge). I ultimately put a front derailleur and a double back on in order to get both the range and the gaps I want.

    As for MTBs, I just recently switched from a 3x9, 26" full-suspension rig to a 7 pound lighter 2x10, 29er hardtail. It provides all the range I need and the gaps I want. The front shifting is so fast and precise that it's hard to see any disadvantage to this setup. I could save another 1/2 pound of weight with a 1x setup, but for me, it's not worth the trade-off. For others here, obviously it is. You have to make your own choice based on what works for you.

    Now that I have the light 29er for trail use, I've considered going back to a 1x10 on the 'cross bike, but I doubt I'll do it, as I still really like riding it in the woods because it's 2 1/2 pounds lighter than the 29er and more responsive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s0ul_chicken View Post
    1x is the only way to go - so much less hassle, and a good way to drop a full pound off the bike. Running 30t rf n/w and never going back to 2x or 3x.
    a pound?

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    Not unless the parts on the bike were pretty heavy to begin with.

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    Front Der: 150 (XT)
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    Yup..that's about a pound. Does it matter? Nope, but it doesn't hurt either. Now, Once I slap a 42t ring on the back this spring, I'll cut that reduction in half so it really doesn't matter. Again, it doesn't hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by padrefan1982 View Post
    +1 to all of this. If I had the legs to run 1x, I'd think about it, especially for the winter months. For time summer, longer rides (sometimes on new-to-me-trails) I really enjoy having the wide gearing. Yes, its slow in the granny, but I like to ride my bike, not hike it.
    you can get a SRAM 1x11 w/ 28T up front. That winds up being the same ratio (resistance) as a 24 up front with 36 out back. (granny on my old bike) I've had no issues so far. The only difference between a 28 w 10/42 and 24-38 w 11-36 is a little lower ratio on the other end. Hasn't been a problem yet.

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    I love my 1x10. The frame looks so much cleaner, and it saves weight, and it works so much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CannondaleF9 View Post
    I love my 1x10. The frame looks so much cleaner, and it saves weight, and it works so much better.
    Works so much better than what? My 2x10 shifts flawlessly and provides a wider gearing range with smaller gaps between gears. A 1x10 would not be a better choice for me.

    Let's be serious, shall we? There are advantages to all three drivetrain types, depending on the rider and type of riding involved, but as much as anything else, it comes down to personal preference. To each, his own.

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    I'm about 5 rides into my 1x10 setup. Did a ride yesterday with rolling hills with some decent longish uphills. Got dropped on the way up everytime!

    I'm running a 30T with a 11-36 cassette. My double setup was 24/38. I'm usually not a masher...and having to do that...well...left me muscling up the climbs...pedaling at 5rpms.

    On a couple of the real steep sections...I was going so slow that I could have sworn that my Garmin stopped reading!

    My 2x setup worked pretty flawless. The 1x10 is just something for me to try out. Even with getting dropped on each uphill...I'm going to stick with this for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lstone84 View Post
    you can get a SRAM 1x11 w/ 28T up front. That winds up being the same ratio (resistance) as a 24 up front with 36 out back. (granny on my old bike) I've had no issues so far. The only difference between a 28 w 10/42 and 24-38 w 11-36 is a little lower ratio on the other end. Hasn't been a problem yet.
    I actually can't get this, since I've got King hubs (that I love, and can't replace currently). With all that said... I've pulled the trigger on a RaceFace NextSL crankset with a 30t ring. On my old bike (a Tracer29) I remembered I could clear the longest regular climb on a 32 ring, so I'm hoping that the combination of now riding a lighter bike and wheel set and dropping to a 30 tooth ring will give me enough low end to get through most climbs.

    If I find out I'm really missing the extreme ends of the gearing, I'll pick up the 2x spider and go back (or, use it for trips where I have no idea what to expect). Might also think about going with OneUp's 42 pie plate in the back. If Shimano would just put together an XT level cassette with 42t opinion, and 10 speed... I'd be all over it, and I doubt I'd be the only one.

    And if it doesn't work out... my legs should be stronger and I'll have the experience to know better.

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    I prefer a 2x drivetrain. To state the obvious, I get a wider range of gears. What's not to like about that? To state the not-so-obvious, or possibly overlooked, I prefer the option to make "fine" gear changes (RD) or "gross" gear changes (FD). I find multiple chainrings makes it easier to maintain momentum when transitioning from steep descent to steep climb abruptly (like a ravine crossing) as well as the opposite. I'd rather do two shifts (upshift FD, downshift RD) than do four or five upshifts of the RD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bnystrom View Post
    Works so much better than what?
    Then whatever he multi ring setup he was using previously. Why would you think he was commenting on your setup?
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    Yes. I was in Georgia, and had 3x8. I converted to 1x4, then 1x6, then 1x9.

    Fast toward four years, I move to Colorado, and took that setup through Kenosha pass while out of shape. I converted go 2x9, with 24-34 and 11-32. I like it a lot, and only use my lowest and highest gear occasionally. Its not a hassle at all, shimano xt 9.speed stuff shifts so well, I never regret using a FD. The only issue I ever have, is I get chain suck if I go more than two rides without lubing the chain. I find myself missing the sexy look of 1x, but then remember I cant see my bike when I ride and pushing it uphill looks retarded. You need the low end on some stupid long, or techy climbs. Im not slow, or fat either. My knees also hurt whe. I mash a lot too. YMMV

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    Then whatever he multi ring setup he was using previously. Why would you think he was commenting on your setup?
    My point was that there is nothing functionally wrong with 2x setups. They work just fine, so a 1x setup cannot work any better. Had he specified that his 1x worked better than a 3x, I would have agreed with him, as I haven't seen a 3x system yet that shifts as well as a 2x.

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    I couldn't imagine the need for lower gearing then a 28t front and 10X42 cassette.

    I ride steep mtns in WV/VA and never wanted lower.....any lower I'd fall over. lol

    That said, I really love the simplicity of 1X11 and not have a trigger to my left . The range of gearing is optimal at both ends.

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    I ride steep mountains with a 11-36 cassette and a 34t chainring. It all depends on how much you want to work.

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    Its all relative...After riding my Singlespeed all season, my 1x8 seems downright indulgent and I find myself standing and hammering rather than sitting and shifting.

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