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    2013 RockShox Reba RL Solo Air 100 29er,Tapered

    Posted this in the Shocks section but figured it might belong here as well.

    I'm in the market for a new front suspension fork and might have found a decent deal on this fork. Can anyone who have used this fork tell me how it performs and how you like it? I know that most if not all Rockshox's models are now solo air so I'm thinking this is a good feature. This will be put on a SC TallboyC and used for mostly XC trails. I have used both the older Reba RL and Fox forks and tend to like Rockshox better. TIA.

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    I don't think it's a good feature. I wouldn't buy one. Scott and others dropped the Reba from all their bikes and replaced it with the Fox CTD-- which also lacs tunability.
    A dual air 2012 or 2011 is available from bluesky for 350. Put 5 additional psi in the negative over the amount for your weight in the positive. You get small bump compliance.
    A Manitou Tower Pro gives you a shim stack for tuning. That is another good option.

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    Now that I know how tunable dual air is, I don't plan on going to solo air. I put 20 psi less in the neg chamber, giving me the ride I want. I would never be able to get something close to that in solo air since it equalizes the pressures. I'd go pick up one of the Reba's on bluesky If i were you. I think they have striaght steerers but to my knowledge, you can buy an adapter.

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    Going to Solo Air from Dual Air seems like a major downgrade by Rockshox.

    I have not ridden the new Solo air but I am not very optimistic about.

    Did they drop any weight going Solo Air?

    Fox which is basically Solo Air always felt non compliant to me and very difficult to tune. The Dual Air Reba I have on my Anthem X29 is easily tweeked and super plus and compliant compared to the F29's that I had.

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    These $350 reba's are 2011's with straight steerers and 9mm dropouts.

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    Nice.

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    I got the 2012 RL DuaL Air 29 from Blue Sky for $350. It's still available:

    BlueSkyCycling.com - 2012 Rock Shox Reba RL Dual Air 29er Fork
    Current Stable: 2011 Niner EMD, 2011 Vassago Jabba

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    Wow, that is a smoking price on that fork. My LBS wants $450 for a solo air G2. So is the Dual air a more desirable fork over the solo air?

    At this point paying $450 for a solo air just to get the G2 geometry may be something I can overlook if this is a better shock in the end. From what I was told the G2 Geometry only affects the slow speed turning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TJay74 View Post
    So is the Dual air a more desirable fork over the solo air?.
    Dual Air means the fork is more adjustable. I'm not really knowledgeable of how these things work, but I do know that the positive chamber of the Dual is for adjusting travel and sag (based upon rider weight), and the negative chamber is for small bump compliance. I don't know how the Solo works, but the general consensus seems to be that two air chambers are better than one.
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    Trust me you want 120mm on your Tallboy. Huge difference IMHO. Right now I am running the recon that came with mine. I had the spacers taken out and big time difference. Its like putting the bike into attack mode. A lot fewer pedal strikes as well. Not sure where you ride but even strictly XC I think the Tallboy shines with a 120mm fork

    Unfortunately that rules out the post 2011 Rebas. I will be upgrading this winter, torn between several choices such as the Fox float, White Borthers loop, and the Manitou Tower Pro. I'd get the Reba in a heartbeat if they made them in 120mm tapered.

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    The link that was posted I called, he said the dual air listed is a straight shaft and not tapered as well. I may order one for myself later, they only have 8 of them left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJay74 View Post
    The link that was posted I called, he said the dual air listed is a straight shaft and not tapered as well. I may order one for myself later, they only have 8 of them left.
    You won't get better for the $. Also, bear in mind that this comes with a shock pump AND a repair seal kit- something that the 2011 RL Dual does not come with (from Blue Sky because it's an OE version).
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    Quote Originally Posted by cornice6 View Post
    Posted this in the Shocks section but figured it might belong here as well.

    I'm in the market for a new front suspension fork and might have found a decent deal on this fork. Can anyone who have used this fork tell me how it performs and how you like it? I know that most if not all Rockshox's models are now solo air so I'm thinking this is a good feature. This will be put on a SC TallboyC and used for mostly XC trails. I have used both the older Reba RL and Fox forks and tend to like Rockshox better. TIA.
    Yeah, I don't know why taking off the negative air is actually a feature. I love that you can tune dual air for small bump compliance, and spring rate. I can tune it to blow through all of it's travel or very little travel.

    Back when I had dual air Rebas, I would put 110 positive and 100 psi negative. BTW, I'm 208# nekkid. I like my forks nice and soft... and I almost never blew through all of the travel, even on my little XC 2' (real) drops to flat, or plowing through rock gardens. If I found I needed a less active fork, you can crank more air in the positive and negative springs and keep the same sag, but with more spring ramp-up.

    Great fork as dual air.

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    I am going to place an order for the Reba RLT instead, little nicer fork and only $30 more than the regular dual air.

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    I'm looking for info about full RS lineup for 2012 and 2013. SRAM www is not to clear for me when rading about remotes (which are where) and travel length (not sure if SID 2013 can be 120 and 100 by spacer removal?).
    Does anyone have better links?
    I'm looking for SID QR15, tapered 29 with remote. Can be 2012 or 2013.

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    Anyone can confirm options of SID 29 2013 15mm tapered


    1. SID RCT3 2013, 29" MxlLt15 Blk MoCoDNA Taper 120mm
    2. SID XX 2013, Solo Air 29" MxlLt15 White XLoc Rem Taper 100mm
    3. SID XX 2013, Solo Air 29" MxlLt15 White XLoc Rem Taper 120mm
    4. SID XX WCup 2013, 29" MxLt15 Keronite XLoc Rem Cbn Tpr 100mm


    Is there any info that SID 100mm can be 120mm just by removing the spacer ?

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    Just in case anyone is skeptical of the 2013 REBA performance, don't be. Im 250 lbs and it is the best fork Ive owned. It is plenty stiff even at my weight and was extremely easy to setup (17 percent sag and 2 clicks slower rebound). The two FOX forks that I run on my 2012 Superfly and 2012 Rumblefish Pro do not allow for equal small bump compliance while maintaining middle stroke performance. Both do not use all their travel. Before trying the REBA RLT on my Cannondale SL3 Single Speed, I was ignorantly blissful of the performance of Fox Forks on the mentioned bikes. The REBA on the c-dale is setup 100mm, tapered, 15mm axle. I'm now disappointed in the performance of the 2012 Fox Shocks, especially the uber expensive DRCV Kashima on the Rumblefish Pro. For reference, the REBA RLT was purchased off of Ebay for 500 delivered.

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    I love the Rebat RLT as of now, the bike rieds more planted and is not washing out in the corners as bas as it was before and is alot more stable over the bumps, jumps, and whoops now.

    The mechanic set mine up with 135psi in the top and 130psi in the bottom, I have not played with the rebound yet as it is riding too good to mess with it right now. Wheels (Stans Arch Ex) and rotors are to be ordered today and then convert over to tubeless as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJay74 View Post
    I love the Rebat RLT as of now, the bike rieds more planted and is not washing out in the corners as bas as it was before and is alot more stable over the bumps, jumps, and whoops now.

    The mechanic set mine up with 135psi in the top and 130psi in the bottom, I have not played with the rebound yet as it is riding too good to mess with it right now. Wheels (Stans Arch Ex) and rotors are to be ordered today and then convert over to tubeless as well.
    If the mechanic put pressure in the upper and lower air chamber, then your fork is not a 2013 model. The 2013 has a single solo air chamber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dictatorsaurus View Post
    If the mechanic put pressure in the upper and lower air chamber, then your fork is not a 2013 model. The 2013 has a single solo air chamber.
    I bought the 2011 Reba RLT dual air instead of the single air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by t51rmkiv View Post
    Just in case anyone is skeptical of the 2013 REBA performance, don't be. Im 250 lbs and it is the best fork Ive owned. It is plenty stiff even at my weight and was extremely easy to setup (17 percent sag and 2 clicks slower rebound). The two FOX forks that I run on my 2012 Superfly and 2012 Rumblefish Pro do not allow for equal small bump compliance while maintaining middle stroke performance. Both do not use all their travel. Before trying the REBA RLT on my Cannondale SL3 Single Speed, I was ignorantly blissful of the performance of Fox Forks on the mentioned bikes. The REBA on the c-dale is setup 100mm, tapered, 15mm axle. I'm now disappointed in the performance of the 2012 Fox Shocks, especially the uber expensive DRCV Kashima on the Rumblefish Pro. For reference, the REBA RLT was purchased off of Ebay for 500 delivered.
    Agreed. 2013 SID XX and the fork feels very nice. I've had Fox and Lefty's and gotta say the 2013 SID XX is good.

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    I have a 2013 110mm SID RLT on my Spec Camber. Same complaint, feels harsh on small bumps. I have noticed that the recommended PSI settings are a bit high for my less aggressive XC type riding. The only thing that helped was turning the air pressure down to about 100psi from the recommended 125psi for my weight of 190 #'s. This made a big change in the fork as far as harshness and I didn't notice any real drawbacks. I thought I might have bottomed the fork out late in the ride on a log but still used only 90mm of travel.

    Is anyone riding the 2013 RCT3? Does it help with have small bump tune ability?

    Does anyone know if the RCT3 dampening cartridge is interchangeable with the RLT cartridge?
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    I bought a 2011 Reba RLT Ti dual air, tapered, 120mm, 20mm TA. Installed it today and hope to get a ride on it soon.

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    How do you know whether or not you need tapered? Looking for a solid replacement to my stock XC30 and would like remote lockout. I ride a Felt Nine 60. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddublu View Post
    How do you know whether or not you need tapered? Looking for a solid replacement to my stock XC30 and would like remote lockout. I ride a Felt Nine 60. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
    Look at the bottom of the head tube on your frame. If the circumference and diameter is larger at the bottom than the top of the head tube, you need tapered
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    Hello

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    Quote Originally Posted by MObiker View Post
    I have a 2013 110mm SID RLT on my Spec Camber. Same complaint, feels harsh on small bumps. I have noticed that the recommended PSI settings are a bit high for my less aggressive XC type riding. The only thing that helped was turning the air pressure down to about 100psi from the recommended 125psi for my weight of 190 #'s. This made a big change in the fork as far as harshness and I didn't notice any real drawbacks. I thought I might have bottomed the fork out late in the ride on a log but still used only 90mm of travel.

    Is anyone riding the 2013 RCT3? Does it help with have small bump tune ability?

    Does anyone know if the RCT3 dampening cartridge is interchangeable with the RLT cartridge?
    Hi
    I have a question to You about your RS SID 2013 Solo Air. I plans to purchase the same fork but I'm afraid of Solo Air. Do you lost some travel when you reduced the pressure in the chamber? I hesitate between the 2012 Dual Air and 2013 Solo Air and so far I have heard nothing but bad reviews of Solo Air. Do you have any comparison to the Dual Air fork... what do you suggest? I would add that I am a light weight rider and do not want to lose travel gaining softness and sensitivity. Now I haw RS SID Team Dual Air and I like the way It works and do not want to lose it by buying a new fork.

    Could You help me guys?

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    Solo air

    I have 2013 sid 120mm solo air and love it.If you read comparisons some people prefer tunability of dual air.I prefer solo air after having several dual air revelation XX forks leak air from one chamber to the other.My 2013 Sid relalced my2012 fox Kashima Talus on a niner RDO it is also a 1/2 pound lighter.

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    I forgot to mention that I'm talking about XC fork with 100mm travel. you can not compare the 120 to 100 where it is a completely different style of riding and there is a different sensitivity of these forks. The second issue is that I ride a 26er. Does anyone have a comparison of SA to DA does anyone ridden on both types of forks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mixchris View Post
    I forgot to mention that I'm talking about XC fork with 100mm travel. you can not compare the 120 to 100 where it is a completely different style of riding and there is a different sensitivity of these forks.

    Different sensitivity? So You mean different materials used ? As far as i know You can make 100mm from 120mm by spacer removal - won't it work as factory 100mm fork ?

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    I don't know? That why I'm asking You guys. I think that they have different "feeling" because of different travel. That's all... and I think it's hard to compare 120 to 100 but I could be wrong... Anyone compared the SA with DA in reality?

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    I have both the Fox F29 RL and the Reba 29 RL soloair 2013.
    The Fox is still going strong after several years and only 1 service.

    The reason for buying the (tapered) Reba was the tapered headtube of my new bike.
    New bike, so I only use it for holidays and sunny rides.
    The Fox is in my old bike, which I now use for bad weather. We have a lot of mud and rain in the wintertime.

    But I had to take the Reba apart after just 3 weeks of riding in Sunny Italy and France. It got very sticky,right to the point where it wouldn't move at all. :-(
    Surprise surprise, there was almost no oil inside.
    The fork hadn't leaked, so I guess there was never enough oil from the start.
    After some TLC the Reba works fine, now let's see if it lasts as long as the Fox .?.
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    Is it possible to convert a tapered head tube to straight tube without sacrificing durability? In a case such as a 2012 Marlin and wanting to upgrade to a 2011 Reba RLT DA fork or anything other than stock?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mixchris View Post
    Hi
    I have a question to You about your RS SID 2013 Solo Air. I plans to purchase the same fork but I'm afraid of Solo Air. Do you lost some travel when you reduced the pressure in the chamber? I hesitate between the 2012 Dual Air and 2013 Solo Air and so far I have heard nothing but bad reviews of Solo Air. Do you have any comparison to the Dual Air fork... what do you suggest? I would add that I am a light weight rider and do not want to lose travel gaining softness and sensitivity. Now I haw RS SID Team Dual Air and I like the way It works and do not want to lose it by buying a new fork.

    Could You help me guys?
    After several more rides I have gotten used to the 2013 SID. I am running about 95 psi for my 190 # weight and it feels pretty good. I have an 80mm dual air Reba on my HT Spec Stumpy. It works real well but with such short travel it's hard to compare. I'm not really sure the threshold on the RLT amounts to much, an RL is probably just as good. I don't think you can go wrong with the solo air, just ignore the suggested air pressure !! I think most of these fork options these days are pretty sweat. Hard to go wrong.
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    I have a 2 week old SID XX 29" tapered w/Remote Lockout avail. I bought it brand new from my LBS for my Felt bike which is being replaced by a new Soma Juice. The Juice requires a straight steerer tube. I will be looking for something as close to the SID as I can find as I loved what little use I got from it (less than 20 miles). PM me if interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MObiker View Post
    After several more rides I have gotten used to the 2013 SID. I am running about 95 psi for my 190 # weight and it feels pretty good. I have an 80mm dual air Reba on my HT Spec Stumpy. It works real well but with such short travel it's hard to compare. I'm not really sure the threshold on the RLT amounts to much, an RL is probably just as good. I don't think you can go wrong with the solo air, just ignore the suggested air pressure !! I think most of these fork options these days are pretty sweat. Hard to go wrong.
    Thanks for your answer Probably You have right but I have one more question. When You are changing pressure in the fork (Solo Air) the travel of fork is changing as well? I like when the fork is really soft but I don't wont to lose travel.

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    Less psi means more sag.
    Normaly you would have about 20% sag (XC), which means you have 80% travel left.
    However, sag does not reduce travel.
    Whitout sag you would have a harsh fork which only uses the first 80% of it's travel (at most, 50% is more likely).
    With sag you have a plush fork which uses all of it's travel, starting at 20%.

    So, reducing pressure does not actualy reduce travel.
    The right pressure enables you to use the full potential of your suspension.
    Remember, RS tables are way to high, so most of the time this means you have te reduce pressure.
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    Yes I totally agree with You but in my actual fork (SID Team dual air) I have issue that when I put less air to the fork to have more plush filling I'm losing about 10% of travel with 20% of sag. So in fact, I have 90mm of travel and I should have 100. When I gone put more pressure to the fork I have 100mm of travel and sag is still 20% but it is not so sensitive any more. So do You understand my problem? I'm afraid that with Solo Air I had the same problem but with my Dual Air fork I could solve that problem with putting different pressure to the chambers in Sol Air fork it's impossible.

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    The dual-air has a positive and a negative airspring.
    The solo-air only has a positive airspring, the negative spring is steel and not adjustable.
    So, with dual air you can adjust both the positive and the negative springrate, with solo air only the positive.
    In a dual air fork, if you lower the pos.pressure, you'll also have to lower the neg.pressure by about the same percentage.
    Ifyou don't, you'll lose a lot of travel.

    Dual-air is better to set up, solo-air is easier to set up.
    RS had some issues with dual-air, that's why they switched to solo-air.
    Solo air is also cheaper
    I have no problem with RS's choice for solo-air.
    But I do (did) have a problem with the forklegs sticking in place.
    I had the same problem with my old Reba (dual air) and my Recon (U-turn steel spring).
    Maybe next year they'll use better seals, fill up enough oil and use enough lubrication at fabrication.
    But you get what you pay for. Overhere (Europe), Fox is almost 3 times as expensive as RS.
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    i just bought a 2013 epic with the Reba RL 100mm solo air and need to know how much to pump it up im 245lbs with gear. thanks

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    Look at the Rock Shox web page there you will find an Air Chart for 2013 RS forks so help yourself but I advise you to inflate about 135psi because RS Air Chart is WAY overstated. 135psi is a good start for your weight. The best way to set up your fork is to set up by sag. You can read about it on RS web page too just find Service Tab below the page and find there PDF named "Tuning Guide - RockShox Dual Air 2001-2012" I know it's for Dual Air but the idea is the same look at the page 9 I recommend 20% of sag its best set up but experimenting is always welcome

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    Quote Originally Posted by thasingletrackmastah View Post
    The dual-air has a positive and a negative airspring.
    The solo-air only has a positive airspring, the negative spring is steel and not adjustable.
    So, with dual air you can adjust both the positive and the negative springrate, with solo air only the positive.
    In a dual air fork, if you lower the pos.pressure, you'll also have to lower the neg.pressure by about the same percentage.
    Ifyou don't, you'll lose a lot of travel.

    Dual-air is better to set up, solo-air is easier to set up.
    RS had some issues with dual-air, that's why they switched to solo-air.
    Solo air is also cheaper
    I have no problem with RS's choice for solo-air.
    But I do (did) have a problem with the forklegs sticking in place.
    I had the same problem with my old Reba (dual air) and my Recon (U-turn steel spring).
    Maybe next year they'll use better seals, fill up enough oil and use enough lubrication at fabrication.
    But you get what you pay for. Overhere (Europe), Fox is almost 3 times as expensive as RS.

    Actually, there is not a steel mechanical spring in the solo air design. It's still a dual air chamber (pos and neg) design just like the dual air design. The difference in solo air and dual air is input. There are two independent input valves for dual air forks and a single valve for the solo air forks. Pressure in the two air chambers is kept equal by a check valve. You can read about the design in this article.

    Unboxed, Weighed & First Rides – 2013 SID XX World Cup Fork - Bike Rumor

    I have both a 2013 SID RCT3 and a 2011 Reba RLT. The SID is a little lighter (1660 grams with 15mm thru axle for the SID, 1800 with 20mm TA for the Reba). My SID is quite new and not broken in but like others have posted, I find that I need to run less pressure in the SID than recommended (currently 90 vs. 120) for my weight. I like to run about 25% sag with both forks. One you equalize the sag, the forks feel quite similar.

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    None of the bluesky sale forks are tapered and none are 15mm thru axle.. as usual

    if you want a new fork with these features especially in the color black be ready to shuck out 600-900 bucks...

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    Does anyone know if RockShox made any 2013 Reba RLT 29s tapered 15mm that DO NOT have remote lockout?

    Also, if I buy one with a pushloc remote, can I just take it off?

    Thanks,

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    Totally agree with what another responder said about 100 vs 120 on your Tallboy. I have a Tallboy carbon I bought to race the 2012 Leadville 100. I Ride and race cross country style and absolutely love the 120mm Fork and can't imagine running a 100mm. Handles great, fast and compliant.

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